Rebuttal to Ali Sina’s article “Why be good if there is no afterlife

Rebuttal to Ali Sina’s article “Why be good if there is no afterlife?”

His article can be found here

http://www.news../index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1381

It’s a typical atheistic article. A Christian/Hindu/Jew/Buddhist/Muslim does not bring these arguments. As they believe in the next life one-way or the other. But lets deal with this typical atheistic article.

Ali Sina writes:

I do not know what will happen to us after we die. Most likely we simply cease to exist. Is it possible that a reality of us survive after we die? There are a lot of things that we humans don't know. Is it possible that the world is more complex than what meets the eye? Could there be other worlds with different dimensions parallel to ours of which we have no knowledge? Even if such worlds exist, we have no evidence of them and therefore they belong to the realm of speculation. It is not wise to hinge our lives around things that are speculative in nature. There is only one life of which we can be certain and it is this life. We must make the most of it.

My Response:

As a Muslim, I believe that there is one more life. When God can create us once, he can surely create us again. We do not need proof for believing in everything. Since NOTHING of the Quran has been proven false and Quran has mentioned things 1400 years ago which science has discovered today. There are many lies which are spread about the Quran, which have been convincingly refuted over and over. Just go through the science section and see for yourself. Since most of it is True, the rest which we cannot examine, I believe that to be True as well. Suppose a person says 100 things, 70 I check, its 100% True. The rest 30 I cannot verify, my logic tells me that even those 30 would be true.

Ali Sina writes:

The best way to make the most of this life is to make our species advance. We humans are social animals. Our happiness depends on the happiness of our fellow beings. Nature has made us such that the greatest pleasures we feel is in giving and in helping others. Those who help others do so because they enjoy helping. There is no pleasure greater than making others happy. Animals do not have this sense. Empathy is something that has evolved in us humans. An animal has a natural drive to provide and protect her own offspring. Beyond that, animals don’t seem to have empathy.

A study shows that the area of the brain associated with higher-level thinking, empathy, and guilt is underused by teenagers. When considering an action, the teenage medial prefrontal cortex, located in front of the brain, doesn't get as much action as adults. Empathy is a basic part of human nature that allows people to care about others. This study suggests that empathy is a learned behavior that develops in humans as they age.

My Response:

Agreed ! We Human beings have the empathy and we feel good in helping other people. Any sincere Muslim would love helping other people. We get pleasure in doing so. Its True, but everyone is not the same. That is the point to be noted. Why don’t you go and tell this to George Bush? Who is killing thousands and thousands of human beings? Where was the empathy of Hitler who burned 6 million Jews?

Our human nature is against violence, bloodshed; we are created in such a manner that we are constantly being programmed. Our bad company and circumstances make us human beings deviate from our true nature and do inhuman acts like killing etc. When a person is overpowered by hunger, he doesn’t even mind robbing people. The circumstances change the human being.

That is why Allah (SWT) has asked us to offer 5 regular prayers in which our mind is programmed and remembrance of Allah is there in the mind of every sincere Muslim at all times. That constant remembrance of Allah makes a human being realize that whatever one is doing, God is watching and I have to be accountable for it. Even if there is some difficulty on me, I am supposed to follow God, whatever he commands me to.

Ali Sina writes:

Another study suggests damage to the brain limits empathy. When asked if they would kill someone for a greater cause, such as saving the lives of more people, those with damaged brains often responded affirmatively while the subjects with normal brains were not prepared to kill someone even for a greater cause. According to Dr. Antonio Damasio, one of the study’s lead authors, “Part of our moral behavior is grounded ... in a specific part of our brains,..."

My Response:

Again, Ali Sina shows his stupidity. If by killing one human being, lets say I am saving 100 lives. Isn’t that cool? But the stupid brain of Ali Sina will say, well let that one live and kill 100. So Mr.Sina you are the one with damaged brain not us, and in most, almost all cases when this is the case. It is the killing of one bad person, NOT an innocent one. Today if someone kills George Bush and in doing, so thousands of Iraqis are saved, I am 100% for it! Any sensible person would be!

Even if I have to kill 1 innocent person to save 100 I would do, because 100 lives are more precious to me than 1. But I would be very reluctant in killing one. But would be compelled to do so in order to save 100, If I do not do so, I’ll be killing 100.

Why do the police arrest the robber? It is for a greater cause. It is to let peace prevail in the society, so that we normal citizens can live peacefully, but the damaged brain of Ali Sina will tell that well do not arrest the robber even if its for a greater cause!

Ali Sina writes:

Some cultures are noticeably more empathic than others. High on the list are Hindus and the westerners. Low on the list, are Muslims in general, irrespective of their race or nationality. This is clear from the emails that they send me, (many of which I have published in this site.) They often rationalize the pain and suffering caused to non-Muslims, citing Abu Ghraib, Hiroshima, Palestine and other unrelated topics to justify their own atrocities and the senseless killing of innocent people. Muslims do not feel the pain of other Muslims either. They are constantly fighting and shedding each others’ blood. The very Islamic belief that God would burn the non-Muslims for eternity, and their inability to see anything wrong in this patent injustice is a clear indication of their lack of empathy.

My Response:

Where was the empathy of the Hindus when they killed Muslims by throwing petrol on them and their children raped their women in Gujrat? Where was there “empathy”? More than 2000 innocent Muslims were killed in Gujrat, their houses were looted and burned, their places of work were burned down, their women were raped. Where was the empathy? Where was the empathy when they burned Baburi Masjid? 100s of Mulims died in those riots as well. Just go through this site, run and operated by non-Muslims and see how many Hindu and other non-Muslim terrorist organizations are there in India

http://www.satp.org/

Where is the empathy of the boss of the infidels George Bush? Who has killed more nearly a million people perhaps more now? Where is their empathy? Where is the empathy of the Israelites who have been killing Palestinians? Where is the empathy of those people who have butchered Muslims in Bosnia? I will just name the history top 3 terrorists. All of them are non-Muslims and I do not expect anyone to contradict me.

1. Hitler (40-60 million as a result of world War II. 35 million according to Michael H.Harts the author of “100 most influential people in History)

2. Joseph Stalin, some 20 million people.

3. Mao Tse Tsung, around 14 million.

Forget about everyone, where is your empathy Mr.Sina? You are the one who calls for the mass-slaughter of Muslims around the world.

http://muslim-responses.com/Ali_Sina_the_Terrorist/Ali_Sina_the_Terrorist_

Quote from Ali Sina:

I don't want to see good people die while Muslim scumbags live and take the world. If any city is nuked I think the world should destroy the Islamic world completely in a way that they can't have any strength to do anything. Any wait would only cause more death. This must be done decisively and immediately. Muslims must get the message loud and clear. If your terrorist brothers nuke one of our cities, we will nuke your world. I bet this will make the Muslims think twice and they then will see they can't play the game of taqyyah saying we are the moderate Muslims and are against terrorism. If you are against terrorism why you follow the terrorist Muhammad? It is like saying, I love Hitler and do whatever he says but I am a peaceful Muslim and I am against killing people. That lie does not wash anymore.

See the article for details and the source.

Ali Sina writes:

Children learn empathy if they see empathy. It is a mistake to assume all cultures are equal or buy into the lie that all people are the same and that bad and good are equally distributed among all nations. There are definitely nations that are more ethical and empathic than others. There are societies that generally lack empathy. In the western society good is the norm and bad people are exceptions, Among the Muslims the reverse is true. Now this makes no sense, since we are all genetically made of the same stock and are the same species. The only difference is education, belief systems and ethos. Good people often do bad things when inspired by bad religious teachings with clarity of conscience.

My Response:

There aren’t bad people in the West?

According to their statistics, in Canada 1 woman is raped in every 3 minutes or its 3 in every 1 minute. Either way its disgusting! Is this what you call empathy? Yes may be, when you treat your mothers and sisters as sex objects, then it is likely to happen. Even Salman Rushdie, the person who the infidels like Ali Sina and his likes love says the same thing.

"WHITE WOMEN - NEVER MIND FAT, JEWISH, NON-DEFERENTIAL WHITE WOMEN - WERE FOR FUCKING AND THROWING OVER. "(page 261, Satanic Verses)

I apologize if the page no. is wrong since I downloaded the book to read as its banned in my country. But the quotation is alright. Just do the word search if you have the book on your computer.

Is this what you call empathy? I guess yes!

Ali Sina writes:

Westerners are very likely to give money to charities, even when they are not wealthy. Muslims in general do not give to charities unless they believe they will be rewarded for it in the next world. Islamic charities are not geared to help the poor but to promote Islam, such as build mosques, print Islamic literature to distribute it for free, or finance Jihad. This is how a Muslim perceives charity. Muslims also give to the poor. However, the intent is not to improve the life of the poor but to gain the pleasure of Allah and be rewarded in the afterlife.

My Response:

What is wrong if Muslim gives charity/donation to a mosque? Doesn’t the Christian give it to the church? Doesn’t a Hindu give it to the temple? Don’t your clowns give donations to you Mr.Sina to run your site?

Then what is wrong is a Muslim gives donation for the expenses of the mosque? And to print literature. Ali Sina I ask you to stop being smart. Westerners are the ones who give to the churches, to print Christian literature. Just let me give you one example. The outcast cult of Christians i.e. Jehovah’s witness, they print two magazines, watchtower with the circulation of over 28.5 million semi-monthly and the other magazine awake with the circulation of more than 34 million monthly. Where do they get all the money to print? Its obviously from people who donate. (These figures are from wikipedia, if you doubt me then search it yourself)

Just see the evangelist Benny Hinn. This is the information I got from Wikipedia

Hinn lives in an ocean-front mansion valued at an estimated $8.5 million in an exclusive gated community in Dana Point, California, travels by private aircraft, and stays in hotel rooms costing upwards of $3,000 per night.^[7] In December 2006, he sent out a mailing asking for donations towards a new Gulfstream G4SP jet valued at an estimated $36 million.^[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_hinn

Our Muslim Dawah organizations are, I am sorry to say pathetic, compared to the Christians.

Yes, we also donate to get the pleasure in the next life. That motivates a Muslim to donate more and more. A Muslim is obliged to give charity, atleast 2.5% of his wealth, every lunar year i.e.Zakaat.

Even if a Muslim has 1 billion dollars, he is obliged to give minimum 25 million dollars in charity.

How many billionaires give this much charity? A Muslim is obliged to give, where as the westerner may give it or not its upto him. If its an Islamic state a Muslim is bound to give, where as this is not the case in the West.

Then Mr.Sina goes to give the example of his aunt. So Mr.Sina you generalize Muslims based on what your aunt does? Hmmm.. nice.

Ali Sina writes:

A sad fact is that Muslims rarely volunteer to donate organs or blood; but, unlike Jehovah's witnesses, Muslims would accept organ and blood donations.

My Response:

A sad lie by Ali Sina, My country Pakistan has become a kidney market. It’s a MUSLIM country and Muslims are donating organs, they also donate blood. In our hospitals, we do not have the blood of the American or the British, but it is the blood of our own people only. They do not send us blood to run our hospitals.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2006%5C04%5C16%5Cstory_16-4-2006_pg7_6

Ali Sina writes:

An entire society can lack empathy. If the ethos of a society does not promote empathy people do not learn it. The evolution of empathy in the West is recent. Only a hundred years ago the westerners felt no qualm colonizing other nations, subjugating them and exploiting them. The Opium War that the British waged against the Chinese is only a token of the lack of empathy and the injustice of the Europeans. Another example is what the Germans did only sixty years ago. However, it is unlikely that either the Germans or the British of today would allow their governments to commit such acts of inhumanity. The ethos of these people has changed and as the result their level of empathy is raised.

My Response:

Thank you Mr.Sina ! Where was there empathy all these years? You said its natural in every human being. So where was it in them 50 years ago? Were human beings born in a different manner 50 years ago? Hmmm.. So according to your own standards, your article is valid only today. It would have been rubbish 50 years ago according to your own standards (Which today it still is). Whereas Islamic concept of Hereafter is eternal, it changed people of 1400 years ago and it also changes people today who believe in it.

Ali Sina writes:

Many ex-Muslims will tell you that prior to their rejection of Islam they had no empathy for the pains of the non-Muslims and some have even confessed that they were elated when they heard about the September 11 calamity that killed many innocent people. Even the westerners, upon converting to Islam lose their empathy. Yvonne Riddley, the BBC journalist who converted to Islam, has given her unconditional support to the terrorists, calling them heroes and martyers and has justified their murder of innocent people including the children of Beslan. Joseph Cohen, a Jew who changed his name to Yusuf Khattab after converting to Islam, has also expressed his approval of the killing of Israelis, including their children.

My Response:

What are you trying to prove by these two examples? You are simply making a fool out yourself Mr.Sina. There are many reverts who have condemned all these terrorist attacks, including Yusuf Islam (Known as Cat Stevens)

I personally condemn the killing of any innocent human being, Muslim or non-Muslim!

Ali Sina writes:

It is clear that we can develop empathy or lose it through education and belief. Actually it is amazing how fast one can acquire empathy or lose it. I felt no pain or sorrow upon hearing the violent death of Musab al Zarqawi, the Jordanian terrorist who had killed over a thousand people in Iraq, nor did I feel any sadness upon the execution of Saddam Hussein. I must confess that I even felt relieved, and the news of their death felt good. Now, this feeling is generally alien to me. I often feel the pain of others, not just in my mind but even in m body. Watching the picture of a woman being stoned makes my body ache, as if I am being stoned. Despite the proliferation of the videos of beheadings, I have not been able to watch any of them yet. I feel the knife on my own throat and have to stop the video or close my eyes. The only way I can explain this double standard is that we humans must have the ability to switch on and off our empathy “button” at will. When terrorists are killed I justify their death and feel good and when innocent people are killed I feel I am being violated and empathize with them. This is the choice I have made. Muslims who find themselves on the other side of the fence and sympathize with the terrorists, empathize with them while they rejoice anytime an innocent non believer is killed. What separates good people from bad people is the causes that they embrace and since the definition of good and bad for each person is different, people commit evil with clear conscience once they embrace ideologies that are evil.

My Response:

I join hands with Mr.Sina in rejoicing the death of terrorists, people who terrorize and kill innocent people, I too condemn it but I also condemn the infidel terrorists like George Bush and his likes. They too should be condemned, they are guilty of many more lives and destruction than Abu Musab Al Zarqawi and Saddam Hussain.

As far as stoning to death is concerned. I justify this punishment for an adulteress and adulterer. Adultery destroys family life and family is the building block of any society. So punishment to those people who destroy the society is justified, man or woman, Muslim or a non-Muslim. The threat of punishment is more effective in producing results than the punishment itself. When someone sees one person who is stoned to death, the thought of adultery immediately perishes from the mind of others.

And Mr.Sina, did you forget Abu Ghraib? What happened there is far worse than woman being stoned to death. There innocent people were stripped and dogs were led into the room for those people. Did you feel the pain for those innocent civilians? I guess Not!

Ali Sina writes:

Muslim children are nurtured with the hatred of the non believers, particularly the Jews. Even a “moderate” Muslim like Dr. Mahathir, the ex-Prime minister of Malaysia, who probably has never seen a Jew in person, was so much filled with their hatred that in his speech addressed to all the Muslim leaders of the world, in 2003, blamed the Jews for everything that is wrong in the Muslim world. When people grow in such an environment filled with hate, there is little room for empathy.

My Response:

I have NEVER been taught to hate non-Muslims. Infact, I have non-Muslim friends too, mostly Hindus and Christian as these two are the majority of the non-Muslims of my country Pakistan. I also do Dawah with them, and Alhumdulillah yet they love me. I am their better friend than many other of my Muslim fellows. I have no problem with a non-Muslim as long as he is not a brain-dead hater like Ali Sina and his likes. I love non-Muslims as long as they aren’t against Muslims and Islam.

Ali Sina is then crying that Muslims blame jews for whatever happens.

The Jews are handful of people. Less than 0.5% of the world Population, yet they are butchering the Palestinians. When you have no problem in laming all the blame of the Muslims like brain-dead haters who are nearly 20% of the world population, then why complain if Muslims lame the blame on Jews who are killing and butchering Palestinians? Now I am not saying every Jew is a bad person. There are good ones among them. The Quran says

“…If only the People of the Book had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors.” (Quran 3:110)

The Holy book of the Jews i.e. the Bible (Old Testament) also speaks against them.

“You (Jews) have been rebellious against the LORD ever since I (Moses) have known you.” (Deuteronomy 9:24)

²⁷ For I know how rebellious and stiff-necked you (Jews) are. If you have been rebellious against the LORD while I am still alive and with you, how much more will you rebel after I die! (Deuteronomy 31:27)

Ali Sina writes:

Why should we be kind to others, help our fellow beings and strive to bring happiness to their lives, if there is no hell and heaven? It is because once we develop empathy, we do not need a compensation for our good deeds and kindness to others.

My Response:

What if someone am a bloodthirsty sadist who loves killing people, and more people he kills, the more pleasure he gets. What should we do to such a person? Doesn’t he deserve punishment? Where will he get it if he is very powerful in this world? Where will be the ultimate justice? It will be in the hereafter.

Ali Sina writes:

The fact that we can help someone and make him or her happy is by itself rewarding. It is the happiness of others that makes us happy. Many people did not know Nazanin, the young Iranian girl who was sentenced to be hanged by the Islamic courts for defending herself against a rapist, which accidentally killed him. People all over the world felt her pain and started a campaign to urge the Islamic regime to set her free. Under the pressure of the world opinion the courts in Iran buckled and Nazanin was released. Her pictures with a big smile after gaining her freedom brought joy to the hearts of all those who had strived for her freedom. I felt elated and tears of joy bubbled in my eyes even though I do not know this young woman. This is called empathy. We feel the pain of others and rejoice in their happiness. There is no other reward needed in making someone happy. The reward is intrinsic in the very act of kindness.

My Response:

So, what are you proving by it? Nothing. Just making a fool of yourself. We feel pain for others its True. I feel pain for my innocent brothers in Iraq, who are brutally killed everyday and it will bring me too much joy when the war is over.

Ali Sina writes:

What about those people who have no empathy, like criminals, the brain damaged and the terrorists? They are mishaps. The criminals and the brain damaged must be rehabbed. The terrorists must be weaned from their cultic beliefs. As long as they hold unto their belief, and to the degree that they are inspired by the hate speeches of their religious leaders, there is little difference between the terrorists and criminals or brain damaged people. The actions of the terrorists and the moral support that they get from millions of their like minded coreligionists, is an eloquent testimony that not all doctrines are harmless.

My Response:

Which “cultic belief” does George Bush has, which inspires him to kill thousands of innocent human being including children? Which “cultist belief” did Hitler have to incinerate 6 million Jews?

Ali Sina writes:

Whether we like it or not and whether it is politically correct to say it or not, we have to accept the fact that those Muslims who regularly go to the mosque and fill their minds with the venomous sermons of their hate spewing mullahs, have little empathy for the rest of mankind. What distinguishes us humans from lower forms of life is empathy. If even a herd of buffalo can have empathy for their kind, the terrorists can be ranked as less than beasts.

My Response:

I go to mosque everyday, yet I love my fellow human beings, Muslim or non-Muslim. I have infact started loving human beings more after going to the mosque. It really creates love between human beings, when rich and poor stand together. When a servant and a master stand together, it really creates love and affection between human beings.

Ali Sina writes:

As I stated above, empathy can be learned and it can be switched off and on. Once these hardened fanatics leave their doctrine of hate they often acquire empathy quite fast. Suddenly they can see other humans as fellow beings and feel their sorrow and happiness. The reverse is also true. Once someone falls into the trap of the Islamists, it takes very little time before he or she starts hating everyone and everything.

My Response:

Yes, the ex-Muslims develop empathy ONLY for non-Mulsims, Not for Muslims, including you Mr.Sina. You call for mass-slaughter of all the Muslims in the world

http://muslim-responses.com/Ali_Sina_the_Terrorist/Ali_Sina_the_Terrorist_

When Muslims do the same (If I agree with you what you are saying) then why complain? You and your clowns do the same too.

Ali Sina writes:

One does not need any religion or belief to have empathy because, just like intelligence, empathy is part of our evolutionary make up. However, like intelligence, it has to be nurtured to develop. Since religion is the expression of everything that is noble and good in us humans, most religions emphasize on this aspect of our humanness and encourage us to be giving, loving and helping. Nonetheless, it is a mistake to assume that it is because of religion that we have empathy. It is actually the other way round. Religions have adopted what is intrinsically a human experience.

My Response:

Anyone who doesn’t believe in a religion, in him empathy is optional, some have it, some not. Where as the person who is a sincere Muslim SURELY has empathy, otherwise he cannot be a sincere and True Muslim.

Ali Sina writes:

Islamic teachings contain passages that can bee seen as hate mongering. They can reduce those who take them literally into zombies. It takes away their humanity and makes them monsters who think of nothing but how to kill other humans. With false promises of a shamefully orgiastic afterlife and threats of a sadistic hell, some so called religious teachings, rub the intelligence and the conscience of their victims reducing them into little more than beasts. Once you lose your humanity, there is nothing left in you than bestiality. Take a look at what is happening in Iraq and in Palestine these days. Muslims are killing one another in the most savage ways. This is not new. Muslims have been killing each since the day Muhammad died.

My Response:

More rubbish lies from Ali Sina. Do you know Mr.Sina that more murders take place in New York in a week than in a year in Saudi Arabia. In Iraq and Palestine, its your infidels who are killing the Muslims. In Palestine it’s the Jews who are butchering the Muslims. In Iraq, suicide bombing was not there until the Americans came. When a human being is constantly tortured and its beyond limits and nobody comes to help. Its human nature to react, you can ask this from a psychologist.

I love all human beings, irrespective of a Muslim or not. As long as he is not a brain-dead hater, like Ali Sina and his clowns and is not against my religion. He is my friend.

Ali Sina writes:

Whether there is an afterlife or not, we don’t know. Assuming there is, of one thing we can be sure, and that is evildoers will not be rewarded. The terrorists who go against human nature and kill their kind can’t expect to be rewarded. If there is a hell these evildoers will be sent to the pit of it. God will not reward people who hate and kill. Ignorance is not an excuse. God gave all humans the faculty to distinguish right from wrong. Those who willingly choose evil are responsible for their deeds.

My Response:

I agree with it. Terrorists who kill innocent beings will definitely not be rewarded, I don’t differ with you Mr.Sina on this one and God has given the faculty to judge between right and wrong.

Reasons to believe in the Hereafter

1. Ultimate Justice: Only in the hereafter ultimate justice can be done, not in this world. Not every human being can get his rights in this world, nor can every criminal be punished in this world. If a person murders 1 person and you kill him, that will compensate, what if he kills 100 people? If suppose Hitler was alive today and if someone catches him, what punishment can one give him for the incineration of 6 million Jews? The maximum is he can be killed once, that will only compensate for 1 death. What about other 5,999,999 people? The ultimate justice will be done to everyone in the hereafter.

2. Realization of the fact that the human being is not supreme. The belief in the hereafter makes the person realize that he is not something Supreme and can be cruel and unjust. He may go free in this world but not in the next.

3. Realization that someone is watching over all your actions, if someone does anything wrong in secret and no one comes to know. He may benefit from the wrong in this world but he will have to be accountable for that on the judgment day.

4. Makes a person always do righteous actions, a human being may err but his intention is to do right irrespective whether it benefits him in this world or not. In secret if one likes to do something that is not right. Even if it gives me joy and pleasure, yet a person will not do it, remembering that God is watching over him and the act is displeasing to God and he will be accountable for it on the Day of Judgment.

The above are the few reasons why a person should believe in the Life after death.

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