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How do Islam and the Bible honestly view women?

The sections of this article are:

1-  In the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
2-  In Islam.
3-  Conclusion.
4-  My Rebuttals.  See my response to Sam Shamoun's rebuttal to this article.

Let us look at how Islam and the Bible view women, and see in real Truth how terrible the women's status would be if they were living under a true Christian state that follows the Bible 100%.

1-  In the Bibles:

Jesus considers women as dirt that defiles men (since Jesus, the GOD, is the one who supposedly inspired the New Testament as Christians claim):  Revelation 14:4 "Those are those (men) who did not defile themselves with women, for they kept themselves pure.  They follow the Lamb wherever he goes.  They were purchased from among men and offered as first fruits to God and the Lamb."

My rebuttal to some Christian responses:  Some Christians emailed me and said that Revelation 14:4 is referring to those sinless men who stayed away from fornication and adultery, and it is not meant at all to be degrading or insulting to women.  My response to them is:   The verse does not say "those who did not defile themselves with fornication or adultery".  Have the verse said that, then it would've included both males and females and there would be nothing to disagree about.  But the verse clearly and irrefutably says: "those who did not defile themselves with women", which means (1) No females will be among those men; and (2) Women are defiling to men.

Continuing with the article...

Women are not only spiritually defiling to men as Jesus put it, but they're also physically defiling when they have their menses.  Anything they touch becomes unclean:  Leviticus 15:19-30 "And if a woman have an issue (her period/menses), [and] her issue in her flesh be blood, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even. And every thing that she lieth upon in her separation shall be unclean: every thing also that she sitteth upon shall be unclean. And whosoever toucheth her bed shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And whosoever toucheth any thing that she sat upon shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. And if it [be] on [her] bed, or on any thing whereon she sitteth, when he toucheth it, he shall be unclean until the even. And if any man lie with her at all, and her flowers be upon him, he shall be unclean seven days; and all the bed whereon he lieth shall be unclean. And if a woman have an issue of her blood many days out of the time of her separation, or if it run beyond the time of her separation; all the days of the issue of her uncleanness shall be as the days of her separation: she [shall be] unclean. Every bed whereon she lieth all the days of her issue shall be unto her as the bed of her separation: and whatsoever she sitteth upon shall be unclean, as the uncleanness of her separation. And whosoever toucheth those things shall be unclean, and shall wash his clothes, and bathe [himself] in water, and be unclean until the even. But if she be cleansed of her issue, then she shall number to herself seven days, and after that she shall be clean. And on the eighth day she shall take unto her two turtles, or two young pigeons, and bring them unto the priest, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the priest shall offer the one [for] a sin offering, and the other [for] a burnt offering; and the priest shall make an atonement for her before the LORD for the issue of her uncleanness."

I think it is safe to say that Revelation 14:4 and Leviticus 15:19-30 are sister verses.

Birth of any female is a loss:  Ecclesiasticus 22:3 "....and the birth of ANY daughter is a loss" (From the New Jerusalem Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  It's a Roman Catholics Bible).

If a woman gives birth to a baby boy, then she becomes unclean for 7 days.  But if she gives birth to a baby girl, then she becomes unclean for 14 days.  So in other words, the birth of any female causes double the pollution:  Leviticus 12:2-5 "Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a MALE child: then she shall be unclean SEVEN DAYS; according to the days of the separation for her infirmity shall she be unclean. And in the eighth day the flesh of his foreskin shall be circumcised. And she shall then continue in the blood of her purifying THIRTY THREE days; she shall touch no hallowed thing, nor come into the sanctuary, until the days of her purifying be fulfilled. But if she bear a FEMALE child, then she shall be unclean TWO WEEKS, as in her separation: and she shall continue in the blood of her purifying SIXTY SIX days."

I think it's safe to say that Ecclesiasticus 22:3 and Leviticus 12:2-5 are sister verses.

If a woman tries to save her husband from a beating by grabbing the other man's private parts to lift him off her husband, then both her hands must get cut off: Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "And in case men struggle together (in a fight) with one another, and the wife of the one has come near to deliver her husband out of the striking one (to save her husband), and she has thrust out her hand and grabbed hold of his private (the other man's groin), she must then get both her hands cut off, and the eyes of the men must feel no sorrow."

Fathers can sell their daughters as slave girls:  Exodus 21:7-8 "And in case a man should sell his daughter as a slave girl, she will not go out in the way that the slave men go out.  If she is displeasing in the eyes of her master so that he doesn't designate her as a concubine but causes her to be redeemed, he will not be entitled to sell her to a foreign people in his treacherously dealing with her."

Daughters inherit nothing when there are sons: "If a man dies and leaves no son, turn his inheritance over to his daughter. (Numbers 27:8)"  So the American law of splitting everything equally is not Biblical.

Jesus himself in Revelation 14:4 considered women as dirt that defiles men.  Even Jesus, the Christians' highest model, despised women in the Bible!!  It is crystal clear that women in the Bible are nothing but a defiling dirt and trash to men.  This is no insult to women by me.  This is just simply the way the Bible views women.  Ironically, Jesus confirmed this view.

2-  In Islam:

So how does Islam view women then?  Is it any better than the Bible?  You bet it is!  Let us look at what Allah Almighty said about women in the Noble Quran:

There is a great deal of good in some women:  "O ye who believe!  Ye are forbidden to inherit women against their will.  Nor should ye treat them with harshness, that ye may take away part of the dower [money given by the husband to the wife for the marriage contract] ye have given them, except where they have been guilty of open lewdness; on the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity.  If ye take a dislike to them it may be that ye dislike a thing, and God brings about through it a great deal of good.  (The Noble Quran, 4:19)"

Men and women were created for each others, in order to live in peace, harmony and love with each others as husbands and wives:  "And among God's signs is this:  He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them.   And he has put love and kindness among you.  Herein surely are signs for those who reflect.  (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

Men can not harm their wives:  "...Do not retain them (i.e., your wives) to harm them...(The Noble Quran, 2:231)"

"If a wife fears cruelty or desertion on her husband's part, there is no blame on them if they arrange an amicable settlement between themselves; and such settlement is best; even though men's souls are swayed by greed. But if ye do good and practise self-restraint, God is well-acquainted with all that ye do.  (The Noble Quran, 4:128)"

Prophet Muhammad Commanded Mercy and Kindness to the Wives:

There are literally 10s of Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, where he is documented to have said:

ارفق بالقوارير (Be kind and merciful to the wives)

The following are few samples of them:

Like I mentioned, there are literally 10s of Sayings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, where he is documented to have said: ارفق بالقوارير (Be kind and merciful to the wives).

Narrated Mu'awiyah al-Qushayri: "I went to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) and asked him: What do you say (command) about our wives? He replied: Give them food what you have for yourself, and clothe them by which you clothe yourself, and do not beat them, and do not revile them.  (Sunan Abu-Dawud, Book 11, Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah), Number 2139)"

Righteous women are those who are loyal and obedient to their husbands:  "Men are the protectors and maintainers of women, because Allah has given the one more (strength) than the other, and because they support them from their means.  Therefore the righteous women are devoutly obedient, and guard in (the husband's) absence what Allah would have them guard.  As to those women on whose part ye fear disloyalty and ill-conduct, admonish them (first), (Next), refuse to share their beds, (And last) beat them (lightly); but if they return to obedience, seek not against them Means (of annoyance):  For Allah is Most High, great (above you all).  (The Noble Quran, 4:34)"

Men can't have sex with their women during Menses, but they can sleep with them and touch them:  "They ask you concerning menstruation. Say: that is an Adha (a harmful thing for a husband to have a sexual intercourse with his wife while she is having her menses), therefore keep away from women during menses and go not unto them till they have purified (from menses and have taken a bath). And when they have purified themselves, then go in unto them as Allah has ordained for you (go in unto them in any manner as long as it is in their vagina). Truly, Allah loves those who turn unto Him in repentance and loves those who purify themselves (by taking a bath and cleaning and washing thoroughly their private parts, bodies, for their prayers, etc.).   (The Noble Quran, 2:222)"

Maimuna (the wife of the Holy Prophet) reported:  "The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) contacted and embraced his wives over the waist-wrapper when they were menstruating.  (Translation of Sahih Muslim, The Book of Menstruation (Kitab Al-Haid), Book 003, Number 0579)" 

Women have equal rights for them and against them:  "..and for women are rights equal to the rights against them but men have a degree over them (in the context of divorce) in what is just.  (The Noble Quran, 2:228)"

The birth of a female is not a biggest tragedy and the end of the world as it is in the Bibles:  "When news is brought to one of them, of (the birth of) a female (child), his face darkens, and he is filled with inward grief!  With shame does he hide himself from his people, Because of the bad news He has had!  Shall he retain it On (sufferance and) contempt, Or bury it in the dust?  Ah! what an evil (choice) They decide on?  (The Noble Quran, 16:58-59)"   So considering the birth of females as a bad thing is evil by itself in the Noble Quran.

Also, the Prophet peace be upon him said:  Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: "The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: If anyone cares for three daughters, disciplines them, marries them, and does good to them, he will go to Paradise.  (Translation of Sunan abu Dawud, Book 41, General Behavior (Kitab Al-Adab), Number 5128)"

Women have the right for the highest education, unlike what some Muslim fanatics claim:   Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ashari: "The Prophet said, 'He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward.'  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Manumission of Slaves, Volume 3, Book 46, Number 723)"

"....Are those equal, those who know and those who do not know?  It is those who are endued with understanding that receive admonition.  (The Noble Quran, 39:9)"

"...Those truly fear God, among His Servants, who have knowledge:  for God is Exalted in Might, Oft-Forgiving.  (The Noble Quran, 35:28)" 

By the way, I once debated some Muslim fanatics regarding the education of women issue, and from what I gathered from them, they indirectly claimed that they feel threatened by learned wives who are "independent", because they would "challenge their authority", and would be "harder to control".  So, the fanatics' views about keeping women unlearned and illiterate as the Taliban did when they ruled Afghanistan is only their personal opinion that is not based on Islamic doctrine.

Unsecured men do not represent Islam.  I don't have to oppress my wife and keep her down in order for me to keep our marriage.  No, I instead use Noble Verse 30:21 when dealing with my wife:  "And among God's signs is this:  He created for you mates from amongst yourselves (males as mates for females and vice versa) that you might find tranquillity and peace in them.  And he has put love and kindness among you.  Herein surely are signs for those who reflect. (The Noble Quran, 30:21)"

3-  Conclusion:

As we clearly saw in the Bible, women are considered worthless and defiling to men.  Females' birth is even considered a loss and causes double the pollution and dirt in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  The mother becomes double unclean when she gives birth to a female than to a male.  How much more humiliation of women do we need to see in the Bible?

And as we clearly saw in Islam, women are considered good.  Allah Almighty created both men and women to live together as husbands and wives in peace, love and harmony.   Also, considering the birth of females as a bad thing is evil by itself in the Noble Quran.  So unlike the Bible, it is not the end of the world when females are born!

Islamic Rebuttals:

My response to Sam Shamoun's rebuttal to my article "How do the Bible and the Noble Quran view women?"

My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Exposing Osama's Smokescreens and Rabbit Trails (PART 1)" article.

Back to Women in Islam V.S. Christianity.

My response to Sam Shamoun's rebuttal to my article "How do the Bible and the Noble Quran view women?"

Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Women in the Bible".
-  Part II.
-  Part III.
-  Part IV.
-  Part V.
-  Part VI.
-  Part VII.
-  Part VIII.

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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

200 years no gospels | 24 other thrones besides Jesus'  | Jesus' problematic hyperboles: made sinful lawful and lawful sinful | Jesus was created | What's new | A-Z library (3300+ articles) | "Muslims" was the original title | Quran Search | Quran Moral Code (100s of them) | Quran: Bibles are filled with corrupt  قول  qaowl (doctrines of sayings and writings)  | "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah | Jesus said he was powerless |  Paul said he wasn't sure about Holy Spirit | Disciples called each other liars, satanic, false | Paul commanded women to not expose  sex predators | Research & Blog | 9/11 Israel-lie | Youtube