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UPDATE ON August 8th, 2016:

See also the cloning of the Universe into 7 Heavens at:
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2240.msg9836#msg9836

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As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

This is not an official article yet, but these are my brainstorms and notes that I was able to gather regarding this topic.

The question that I am raising here is this: Was Mankind created through cloning from Spinal Stem Cells?

Answer:

While I was reading the Glorious Quran, I ran into the following Noble Verse:

‏7:172 واذ اخذ ربك من بني ادم من ظهورهم ذريتهم واشهدهم على انفسهم الست بربكم قالوا بلى شهدنا ان تقولوا يوم القيامة انا كنا عن هذا غافلين 

[007:172]  When thy Lord drew took (اخذ) from the Children of Adam - from their loins backs (ظهورهم)- their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful":

The idea of Adam and Eve, peace be upon them, had sexual intercourse which resulted in children (siblings to each others) who then married each others and multiplied, and then their children married and multiplied and so on is not supported at all in the Glorious Quran.  Yes, Adam and Eve were a husband and a wife, and they were the first male and female of Mankind (Adam was created first):

"We said: 'O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.'  (The Noble Quran, 2:35)"

For ample more Noble Verses, visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm.

But the generations that came after them and their children were clearly created through the process of cloning, specially by taking stem or somatic cells from the back, and creating other humans with them ("When thy Lord took (اخذ) from the Children of Adam - from their loins backs (ظهورهم)- their descendants....").

The following articles further talk about extracting brain stem cells from the spinal fluid, and the importance of such stem cells in cloning:

www.livescience.com/24005-human-cadaver-brains-stem-cells.html
www.google.com/patents/US20100055079

(More research is being done on this)

Furthermore, the concept of cloning and the alteration of Allah Almighty's creations isn't something new in the Glorious Quran.  Satan promised Allah Almighty that in the End of Times, he (satan) will deceive mankind, and will cause them to slit the cattle's ears and alter the creation of Allah Almighty:

‏4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا 

[004:119] `And assuredly I will lead them astray and assuredly I will arouse in them vain desires, and assuredly I will incite them and they will cut the ears of cattle; and assuredly I will incite them and they will alter ALLAH's creation.' And whoever takes Satan for a friend instead of ALLAH, he certainly suffers a manifest loss.

This was satan's response to Allah Almighty after he was cursed for refusing to bow down to Adam as all of the Beings were Commanded to do so by Allah Almighty.  Satan's final battle on earth is make a complete mockery of Allah Almighty's creations, but causing us humans to alter the creations of Allah Almighty.  And yes, it all started with taking somatic cells from the ear.

 

Alteration of Creation Prophecy in Quran:

The somatic cells from the ears are the most preferred ones to make cloning:  "...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article)).  Notice the two phases of satan's future temptation to mankind.  Notice ولامرنهم (and I will command them) is mentioned twice for two different phases:

Noble Verse(s) 4:119
Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

Rodwell:

[004:119]  and will lead them astray, and will stir desires within them, and will command them and they shall cut the ears of animals (phase 1: Dolly the sheep and cloning research); and I will further command them, and they shall alter the creation of God (phase 2: Cloning industry, LGBTQ, transgenders, Woke, gender alteration, they-them, he-she, she-he, Ze/Zir, Xe/Xem, Sie/Hir, They/Them, (any animal)/human, (any it)/human, etc...)." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

 

  

Cloning began with the cutting of animals' ears:

Satan's big battle with GOD Almighty is to cause so much evil, among them is to "cut the cattle's ears and to then further command them to alter the creation of Allah" (4:119), i.e., cloning (as this is how it began today) [1]

Transgenders also began after Dolly the sheep's cloning.  LGBT (lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender) are covered below in this article.  Today they're even researching making males get pregnant, or at least plant fertilized female eggs inside them and grow the fetuses into babies.

The alteration of Allah Almighty's creations indeed began with the cutting of the animals' ears and extracting the necessary somatic cells from them.  Dolly the sheep was the first creation to ever be cloned:

"Dolly was a female domestic sheep, and the first mammal cloned from an adult somatic cell, using the process of nuclear transfer." (Source)

"...but somatic cells from ear clippings will be much easier to obtain and are therefore preferable."  (Source, 2, pdf (page 13 in PDF, page 4 in article))

Ample more quotes are below in this articleIn the pdf file, we read:

    

  

Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning in the Glorious Quran.  (html backup).  Cloning is mentioned in multiple places in the Glorious Quran [1], and is one of the End of Times Prophecies as well.  Cloning is definitely NOT a foreign concept in the Glorious Quran.

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    Allah Almighty quoted satan telling Him, the Almighty, in the Glorious Quran the following:

    4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا

    [004:119]  and (1) will lead them astray ولاضلنهمand (2) will stir desires within them ولامنينهمand (3) will command them ولامرنهم and (4) they shall cut the ears of animals فليبتكن اذان الانعامand (5) I will command them ولامرنهم to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ." He who taketh Satan rather than God for his patron, is ruined with palpable ruin:

    Satan will:

    1-  Lead astray.
    2-  Stir desires.
    3-  Will command the evil ones.
    4-  They will cut the animals' ears.
    5-  Then proceed to alter the creation of GOD Almighty.

      
    Notice the fifth "and":

    (5) and I will command them ولامرنهم  to alter the creation of God فليغيرن خلق الله ."
      

      

      

    Praised Incest:

    The Bibles praise fornications in incest-like descriptions.  The brothers, little sister and mother sexing, and the vaginas taste like "wine", and a praise for group incest rape in the gospel of LGBTQ, Woke and porn:

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Also Visit:

    Was Adam 90 feet tall?  Science supports Islam's claims.

    Mankind multiplied via cloning from Adam, not incest:  Evidence that Allah Almighty created the People of Adam through Cloning.  (html backup).  Another STUNNING Scientific Claim from Islam.

    Earth Cloning:  Evidence from the Quran that Allah Almighty Created the 7 Heavens and all of their Earths from Cloning.

    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:

     



    For ample quotes from Western Sources on the somatic cells taken from the ears, and how the ear was the first to have cells taken from it, and how ears are the PREFERRED AND BEST parts to take somatic cells from, visit: www.answering-christianity.com/cloning.htm.

    Again, the Western Scientists say that the ear is the best part of the body to take Somatic Cells from, and it is their preferred one, and it was the FIRST used for taking somatic cells from it to make the first cloning.

     

    Update on 08/19/2024:

    Compare these three species:

    Plants
    animals
    humans

    Plants's world is made up of different species.  You don't have half tomato half apple plant, or half potato half cucumber vegetable.

    Animals world is the same thing.  You don't have half dog half cat, or half elephant half hippo, or half rhino half buffalo animal.

    Humans' world is entirely different.  Any grown male can fertilize any grown female on the face of this earth as long as they both don't have fertility problems. We humans all trace to the same one man and one female.  Unlike plants and animals where they're made up of countless different species among them, we all belong to just one specie group.

    Humans can all breed from each other.  There are no different human species.
     



    Feel free to comment.  I am still researching this, and will write a detailed article about it here and on the website's main page soon, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

    Re: Was Mankind created through cloning from Spinal Stem Cells? See Quran 7:172
    « Reply #1 on: January 26, 2013, 01:14:56 pm »
     
    But i read in another article you said that adam and eve had sex in paradise.
     

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    Re: Was Mankind created through cloning from Spinal Stem Cells? See Quran 7:172
    « Reply #2 on: January 26, 2013, 11:00:35 pm »
     
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    But i read in another article you said that adam and eve had sex in paradise.
     

    Of course they had sex, dear brother.  The research here proves that Mankind wasn't just merely created from sex and pregnancy only.  At one point, Allah Almighty took from the existing few People of Adam (Adam's direct children; no incest), and exploded their numbers into the multitudes and nations and tribes and families that humanity is made of today.

    That's what Noble Verse 7:172 seems to clearly suggest:

    7:172 واذ اخذ ربك من بني ادم من ظهورهم ذريتهم

    [007:172]  When thy Lord took (اخذ) from the Children of Adam - from their loins backs (ظهورهم)- their descendants.....

    And again, cloning is not a foreign concept in the Glorious Quran.  Satan's final battle with GOD Almighty is to cause mankind to "cut the cattle's ears and alter the creation of Allah Almighty" (4:119), i.e., cloning (as this is how it began today).

    I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

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    Re: Was Mankind created through cloning from Spinal Stem Cells? See Quran 7:172
    « Reply #3 on: January 27, 2013, 05:32:40 am »
     
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    This is not an official article yet, but these are my brainstorms and notes that I was able to gather regarding this topic.

    The question that I am raising here is this: Was Mankind created through cloning from Spinal Stem Cells?

    Answer:

    While I was reading the Glorious Quran, I ran into the following Noble Verse:

    ‏7:172 واذ اخذ ربك من بني ادم من ظهورهم ذريتهم واشهدهم على انفسهم الست بربكم قالوا بلى شهدنا ان تقولوا يوم القيامة انا كنا عن هذا غافلين 

    [007:172]  When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins backs (ظهورهم)- their descendants, and made them testify concerning themselves, (saying): "Am I not your Lord (who cherishes and sustains you)?"- They said: "Yea! We do testify!" (This), lest ye should say on the Day of Judgment: "Of this we were never mindful":

    The idea of Adam and Eve, peace be upon them, had sexual intercourse which resulted in children (siblings to each others) who then married each others and multiplied, and then their children married and multiplied and so on is not supported at all in the Glorious Quran.  Yes, Adam and Eve were a husband and a wife, and they were the first male and female of Mankind (Adam was created first):

    "We said: 'O Adam! dwell thou and thy wife in the Garden; and eat of the bountiful things therein as (where and when) ye will; but approach not this tree, or ye run into harm and transgression.'  (The Noble Quran, 2:35)"

    For ample more Noble Verses, visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm.

    But the generations that came after them and their children were clearly created through the process of cloning, specially by taking stem or somatic cells from the back, and creating other humans with them ("When thy Lord drew forth from the Children of Adam - from their loins backs (ظهورهم)- their descendants....").

    The following articles further talk about extracting brain stem cells from the spinal fluid, and the importance of such stem cells in cloning:

    http://www.livescience.com/24005-human-cadaver-brains-stem-cells.html
    http://www.google.com/patents/US20100055079

    (More research is being done on this)

    Furthermore, the concept of cloning and the alteration of Allah Almighty's creations isn't something new in the Glorious Quran.  Satan promised Allah Almighty that in the End of Times, he (satan) will deceive mankind, and will cause them to slit the cattle's ears and alter the creation of Allah Almighty:

    ‏4:119 ولاضلنهم ولامنينهم ولامرنهم فليبتكن اذان الانعام ولامرنهم فليغيرن خلق الله ومن يتخذ الشيطان وليا من دون الله فقد خسر خسرانا مبينا 

    [004:119] `And assuredly I will lead them astray and assuredly I will arouse in them vain desires, and assuredly I will incite them and they will cut the ears of cattle; and assuredly I will incite them and they will alter ALLAH's creation.' And whoever takes Satan for a friend instead of ALLAH, he certainly suffers a manifest loss.

    This was satan's response to Allah Almighty after he was cursed for refusing to bow down to Adam as all of the Beings were Commanded to do so by Allah Almighty.  Satan's final battle on earth is make a complete mockery of Allah Almighty's creations, but causing us humans to alter the creations of Allah Almighty.  And yes, it all started with taking somatic cells from the ear.

    For ample quotes from Western Sources on the somatic cells taken from the ears, and how the ear was the first to have cells taken from it, and how ears are the PREFERRED AND BEST parts to take somatic cells from, visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/cloning.htm.

    Again, the Western Scientists say that the ear is the best part of the body to take Somatic Cells from, and it is their preferred one, and it was the FIRST used for taking somatic cells from it to make the first cloning.

    Feel free to comment.  I am still researching this, and will write a detailed article about it here and on the website's main page soon, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     
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