0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Isubmit2Allah

  • Full Member
  • ***
We all know that the Bible has been changed, but...
« on: January 31, 2016, 05:55:02 am »
 
As-salaamu alaykum brothers and sisters. Hope you are all doing well.

Can somebody please explain to me this verse?

Revelation 14:6
Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the ETERNAL GOSPEL to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people.


JazakAllah Khair.
 

Offline submit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
Re: We all know that the Bible has been changed, but...
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2016, 05:08:23 am »
 
its interesting as well to note that the content of 'eternal gospel' is in the next line:

 
Quote
Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters.
 

the content do not indicate give glory to them , their judgement and they who made heaven. Evidently the eternal gospel is telling the Hellenistics believers to choose and fear one singular God not multi-gods. So it is up to the Hellenistics believers to choose whom among the three is worthy to be worshipped and feared.
 

Offline QuranSearchCom

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Islam is the Divine Truth!
Re: We all know that the Bible has been changed, but...
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2016, 11:55:18 am »
 
As-salaamu alaykum brothers and sisters. Hope you are all doing well.

Can somebody please explain to me this verse?

Revelation 14:6
Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the ETERNAL GOSPEL to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people.

JazakAllah Khair.
 
 

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Notice the following verses that speak about the GLORY OF GOD COMING FROM THE EAST (Arabia).  Notice also that it begins with "After this...", which is a new context altogether:

Revelation 7
144,000 Sealed
1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 
2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 
3 "Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 
4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.


Now, we all know that the Glorious Quran calls Prophet Muhammad THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS:

[033:040]  Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things.

And Revelation 7 here says this Seal of GOD will come from the East.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1616.msg6412.html#msg6412




The White Horse Prophecy:

Also, Prophet Muhammad riding the White Horse Prophecy in the book of Revelation:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2028.msg8760#msg8760



Notice also in Revelation 7 the mention of 144,000 saved Jews.  The Glorious Quran Says that A FEW OF THEM are good:

www.answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jews.htm


Now let's contrast Revelation 14 with all of this:

Revelation 14 (CEV)
The Lamb and His 144,000 Followers
1 I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion! With him were a hundred forty-four thousand, who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. 
2 Then I heard a sound from heaven that was like a roaring flood or loud thunder or even like the music of harps. 

And a new song (The Quran?  IT CAN'T BE JESUS because the book of Revelation already came after him!!)was being sung in front of God's throne and in front of the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn that song 

(Yes, Muslims always say that the Arabic Quran is VERY COMPLEX!)
 

except the one hundred forty-four thousand who had been rescued from the earth. 


 

4 All of these are pure virgins, and they follow the Lamb wherever he leads. They have been rescued to be presented to God and the Lamb as the most precious people on earth. 
5 They never tell lies, and they are innocent.

The Messages of the Three Angels
6 I saw another angel. This one was flying across the sky and had the eternal good news (Quran?) to announce to the people of every race, tribe, language, and nation on earth

7 The angel shouted, "Worship and honor God! The time has come for him to judge everyone. Kneel down before the one who created heaven and earth, the oceans, and every stream." 

(THIS STYLE AND LANGUAGE IS FAR CLOSER TO ISLAM THAN to the false trinity's language)

8 A second angel followed and said, "The great city of Babylon has fallen(AMERICA, THE WEST AND THE ONE-EYED DAJJAL SYSTEM?) This is the city that made all nations drunk and immoral. Now God is angry, and Babylon has fallen."

9 Finally, a third angel came and shouted:

Here is what will happen if you worship the beast and the idol and have the mark of the beast on your hand or forehead

(Are not America and the West planning on having physical chips on their subjects?  AND DOES NOT ISLAM SAY that KAFIR (INFIDEL) will be their mark?)

10 You will have to drink the wine that God gives to everyone who makes him angry. You will feel his mighty anger, and you will be tortured with fire and burning sulfur, while the holy angels and the Lamb look on.
[/color]

It sounds like a Prophecy about Islam to me!  The New Gospel that will come from the EAST??  It is non other than the Glorious Quran.

Regards,
Osama Abdallah

Offline Mohamed Saif

  • Hero Member
  • *****
Re: We all know that the Bible has been changed, but...
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2017, 06:42:22 am »
 
Assalamun Alaikum dear Osama

Do we have proof that 144000 Jews were saved in the Hadith from all 12 tribes of Israel?  I know that the Prophet had Jewish allies but did they add up to 144000? As fast as I know it was Jesus Christ who was called the "lamb". Our Prophet was never called the lamb.  Please shed some light on this 

Thank you
Mohamed Saif
 

Offline QuranSearchCom

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Islam is the Divine Truth!
Re: We all know that the Bible has been changed, but...
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2017, 10:35:12 am »
 
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mohamed,

I am not sure what the number 144,000 means.  To me, it is a mystery.  It may not be a literal number.  And no, it is not referring to the number of Jews who were with Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, during his time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).  It could refer to future ones that will embrace his Message, Islam, during a certain period.  I am not sure.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Offline al-Ghazali

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
Re: We all know that the Bible has been changed, but...
« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2017, 07:23:42 pm »
 
As-salaamu alaykum brothers and sisters. Hope you are all doing well.

Can somebody please explain to me this verse?

Revelation 14:6
Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the ETERNAL GOSPEL to proclaim to those who live on the earth--to every nation, tribe, language and people.

JazakAllah Khair.
 
 

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Notice the following verses that speak about the GLORY OF GOD COMING FROM THE EAST (Arabia).  Notice also that it begins with "After this...", which is a new context altogether:

Revelation 7
144,000 Sealed
1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 
2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 
3 "Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God." 
4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.


Now, we all know that the Glorious Quran calls Prophet Muhammad THE SEAL OF THE PROPHETS:

[033:040]  Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things.

And Revelation 7 here says this Seal of GOD will come from the East.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1616.msg6412.html#msg6412




The White Horse Prophecy:

Also, Prophet Muhammad riding the White Horse Prophecy in the book of Revelation:

www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2028.msg8760#msg8760



Notice also in Revelation 7 the mention of 144,000 saved Jews.  The Glorious Quran Says that A FEW OF THEM are good:

www.answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/jews.htm


Now let's contrast Revelation 14 with all of this:

Revelation 14 (CEV)
The Lamb and His 144,000 Followers
1 I looked and saw the Lamb standing on Mount Zion! With him were a hundred forty-four thousand, who had his name and his Father's name written on their foreheads. 
2 Then I heard a sound from heaven that was like a roaring flood or loud thunder or even like the music of harps. 

And a new song (The Quran?  IT CAN'T BE JESUS because the book of Revelation already came after him!!)was being sung in front of God's throne and in front of the four living creatures and the elders. No one could learn that song 

(Yes, Muslims always say that the Arabic Quran is VERY COMPLEX!)
 

except the one hundred forty-four thousand who had been rescued from the earth. 


 

4 All of these are pure virgins, and they follow the Lamb wherever he leads. They have been rescued to be presented to God and the Lamb as the most precious people on earth. 
5 They never tell lies, and they are innocent.

The Messages of the Three Angels
6 I saw another angel. This one was flying across the sky and had the eternal good news (Quran?) to announce to the people of every race, tribe, language, and nation on earth

7 The angel shouted, "Worship and honor God! The time has come for him to judge everyone. Kneel down before the one who created heaven and earth, the oceans, and every stream." 

(THIS STYLE AND LANGUAGE IS FAR CLOSER TO ISLAM THAN to the false trinity's language)

8 A second angel followed and said, "The great city of Babylon has fallen(AMERICA, THE WEST AND THE ONE-EYED DAJJAL SYSTEM?) This is the city that made all nations drunk and immoral. Now God is angry, and Babylon has fallen."

9 Finally, a third angel came and shouted:

Here is what will happen if you worship the beast and the idol and have the mark of the beast on your hand or forehead

(Are not America and the West planning on having physical chips on their subjects?  AND DOES NOT ISLAM SAY that KAFIR (INFIDEL) will be their mark?)

10 You will have to drink the wine that God gives to everyone who makes him angry. You will feel his mighty anger, and you will be tortured with fire and burning sulfur, while the holy angels and the Lamb look on.
[/color]

It sounds like a Prophecy about Islam to me!  The New Gospel that will come from the EAST??  It is non other than the Glorious Quran.

Regards,
Osama Abdallah
 
 

Regarding the "angel" from the east...

As Christians believe the "Angel of Smyrna " refers to Polycarp, since Angel means, literally, "Messenger" in Hebrew (Malak) and Greek, it is an excellent eye you have, I am jealous I didn't find that myself, it could be said without any means of refuting the statement, that it is referring to the Prophet (saw).
 

 

|

Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [
1]

      
  
  


200 years no gospels | 24 other thrones besides Jesus'  | Jesus' problematic hyperboles: made sinful lawful and lawful sinful | Jesus was created |
What's new | A-Z library (3300+ articles) | "Muslims" was the original title | Quran Search | Quran Moral Code (100s of them) | Quran: Bibles are filled with corrupt  قول  qaowl (doctrines of sayings and writings)  | "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah | Jesus said he was powerless |  Paul said he wasn't sure about Holy Spirit | Disciples called each other liars, satanic, false | Paul commanded women to not expose  sex predators | Research & Blog | 9/11 Israel-lie | Youtube

      

  

Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?
  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  

       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called
slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.