Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1] Here are some examples from the 1000s of stunning Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran. Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind: 1- The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here. This Miracle is covered in 100s (hundreds) of Noble Verses.2- Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years. Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters. You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles. |
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Does the Hadith really contain scientific errors regarding the sun's rising and setting?
The question and Hadith-narrations of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, were taken from http://www.islamtoday.net/english/show_detail_section.cfm?q_id=811&main_cat_id=31. The response below is mine.
Emphasis below are mine. Notice how the Prophet said underneath the THRONE and not EARTH. Because in another Hadith, the Prophet said that the sun NEVER SETS. A lot more on this below.
Abstract:
The Glorious Quran is filled with
thousands
of Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
We have listed them
here.
So it should be of no surprise to anyone, at
all, to see the Glorious Quran's description
of the sun's rising and setting to be
scientifically accurate.
He saw the Aurora lights: Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated
Abdullah: "Regarding
the Verse: “Indeed he (Muhammad)
did see. Of
the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!”
(Quran 53.18)
That the Prophet had seen a green
carpet spread all over the
horizon of the sky."
(Translation of Sahih
Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456) Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said this about his journey to the farthest northern lands and people: 18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
Prophet Muhammad "did see" (Quran 53.18) the Aurora Lights covering the horizons above the earth from space. Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and "Thus it was", Allah Almighty completed the "full knowledge" regarding Dhil-Qarnayn's mission. This further supports the story below about Dhil-Qarnayn's journey to the farthest northern lands and people (The sunsetless North Pole Quran-miracle). They also spoke unintelligibly, the Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
Dhil = One who has. Was Dhil Qarnayn an idol-worshiping pagan?
I believe Noble Verses 53:18 and 18:91 are prophetically linked together; that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين saw. Also visit: In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles: 1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here. Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file). Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.
The sunsetless North Pole Quran-Miracle: "Dhil Qarnayn" ذي القرنين in Noble Verse 18:83 means "one with the two horns". We read about his story in more details in Noble Verses 18:83-100: Dhil = One who has. قرنين Qarnayn = two horns.
"Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
They also spoke unintelligibly, the Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
Dhil = One who has. Was Dhil Qarnayn an idol-worshiping pagan?
Only said for the sun-up:
Allah Almighty did not say that He made
"no cover"
for them from it for the sunset. He
said it for the
sun-up only, which further proves
that indeed the sun being always up, in
Noble Verse
18:90
below, is referring to a geographical area
in the North, since so much geographical
proofs, and
1000-year old maps
below, also point to that location as well. "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
"We made no cover...." was never mentioned for sunset. Only to "where the sun is up...." مطلع الشمس in Noble Verse 18:90, which further supports that "We made no cover...." is indeed talking about the Northern territories near the North Pole. See ample pictures of the sun never sets at the North Pole. See below. Remember that they are located near where the sun never sets. In the north, no shade was made from it for them. It is almost always shining on them: لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. "We made no cover for them from it" (18:90). In other words, it never sets. Night almost never comes:
Reached all the way north: Late Dr. Mustafa Mahmoud, may Allah Almighty rest his soul and grant him Paradise, - Ameen, - gave old Islamic maps (video) that date 1000+ old that estimate that Dhil Qarnayn reached all the way north, near the North Pole, where the sun is always up, and reached the Black Sea for sunset, the body of water that is dark and murky. The Black Sea is also not very far from the northern parts of Russia and the North Pole:
"We made no cover...." was never mentioned for sunset. Only to "where the sun is up...." in Noble Verse 18:90, which further supports that "We made no cover...." is indeed talking about the Northern territories near the North Pole. See ample pictures of the sun never sets at the North Pole. They also almost spoke unintelligibly: "...people who almost spoke unintelligibly" (18:93) لايكادون يفقهون قولا. See the references below about the Vikings' language, and similar people of the North, when they were Barbarians. Historians precisely say they spoke unintelligibly [1]. In either case, the Glorious Quran is the Divine and Miraculous Book of Allah Almighty. The Holy Book is filled with thousands of Numerical and Scientific Miracles. We have listed them here. So it should be of no surprise to anyone, at all, to see the Glorious Quran's description of the sun's rising and setting to be scientifically accurate. At the top of the North Pole, the sun never sets, and shown in this video. I also quoted the scientific sources from Wikipedia. Also in the lands near by, the sun almost never sets either, and I quoted sources for that as well, and also showed pictures of the "polar night" skies on these lands. See ample pictures.
Never mentioned for Sunset: "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
Reaching Gog and Magog: Allah Almighty in Noble Verses 18:83-100 mentioned three different geographic locations that Dhil Qarnayn marched to:
1-
The place where the sun never sets.
Regarding the two barriers and a tribe from Gog and Magog: [018:094] They said, `O Dhu'l Qarnain, verily, Gog and Magog are creating disorder in the earth; shall we then pay tribute on condition that thou set up a barrier between us and them ?' The following historical account seems to describe this event accurately: "The Gates of Alexander was a legendary barrier supposedly built by Alexander the Great in the Caucasus to keep the uncivilized barbarians of the north (typically associated with Gog and Magog [1]) from invading the land to the south. The gates were a popular subject in medieval travel literature, starting with the Alexander Romance in a version from perhaps the 6th century. The wall, also known as the Caspian Gates, has been identified with two locations: the Pass of Derbent, Russia or with the Pass of Dariel, west of the Caspian Sea. Tradition also connects it to the Great Wall of Gorgan (Red Snake) on its south-eastern shore. Historically, these fortifications were part of the defence lines built by Sasanians of Persia. The Great Wall of Gorgan may have been built by the Parthians. The name Caspian Gates originally applied to the narrow region at the southeast corner of the Caspian Sea, through which Alexander actually marched in the pursuit of Bessus, although he did not stop to fortify it. It was transferred to the passes through the Caucasus, on the other side of the Caspian, by the more fanciful historians of Alexander. Josephus, a Jewish historian in the 1st century, is known to have written of Alexander's gates, designed to be a barrier against the Scythians. According to this historian, the people whom the Greeks called Scythians were known (among the Jews) as Magogites, descendants of Magog in the Hebrew Bible. These references occur in two different works. The Jewish War states that the iron gates Alexander erected were controlled by the king of Hyrcania (on the south edge of the Caspian), and allowing passage of the gates to the Alans (whom Josephus considered a Scythic tribe) resulted in the sack of Media. Josephus's Antiquities of the Jews contains two relevant passages, one giving the ancestry of Scythians as descendants of Magog son of Japheth, and another that refers to the Caspian Gates being breached by Scythians allied to Tiberius during the Armenian War. [a][2]" (Source) References:
1.
Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius 8; Alexander
Romance, epsilon recension 39. Historians and archeologists are now discovering that the ancient Vikings have discovered and reached vast lands on earth, including being the first to discover the lands of Canada and America. So there is so much that remains unknown about the Barbarians of the Vikings and other similar tribes from other nations. Again, visit:
Some of his stories: Keep in mind that Allah Almighty began Noble Verses 18:83-100 by saying that He will tell us some of the stories of Dhil Qarnayn. So there is a lot more to Dhil Qarnayn and his people than what is mentioned in the Noble Verses: ويسألونك عن ذي القرنين قل ساتلو عليكم منه ذكرا [018:083] They ask thee concerning Dhil Qarnayn. Say, "I will rehearse to you something of his story منه ذكرا."
Key Words: Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran, in Noble Verses 18:83-100, said the following key Words about Dhul or Dhil Qarnayn:
بلغ when used physically or geographically, it means reaching near the area/land, or in it. This is for Noble Verse 18:86. For example:
اذ جاؤوكم من فوقكم ومن اسفل منكم واذا
زاغت الابصار وبلغت
القلوب الحناجر وتظنون بالله الظنونا
مطلع الشمس. Again, see ample pictures of the sun never sets at the North Pole. 18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. (The Noble Quran, 18:90)" مطلع الشمس where the sun is up. It does not mean sunrise. In Arabic, sunrise is مشرق الشمس, where مشرق is derived from شرق east. See ample examples from the Glorious Quran about sunrise and sunset. مغرب الشمس is sunset. مغرب is derived from غرب west. But here, Allah Almighty used مطلع الشمس , which literally here means where the sun is always up. مطلع is derived from طلع which means going up, which is why some Muslims a few centuries after Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, believed that Dhul Qarnyn reached up north, not east. Late Dr. Mustafa Mahmoud, may Allah Almighty rest his soul, presented these maps.
See
ample examples from the Glorious Quran about
sunrise.
Also, let us look at Noble Word طلع in depth: طلع , which is what مطلع is derived from, means that something (the sun in our case here) appears from somewhere, such as from behind a big object, such as a chain of mountains or clouds, or when the sun is always up. For example:
"The midnight sun is a natural phenomenon that occurs in the summer months in places north of the Arctic Circle or south of the Antarctic Circle, when the sun remains visible at the local midnight. Around the summer solstice (approximately 21 June in the Northern Hemisphere and 22 December in the Southern Hemisphere), the sun is visible for the full 24 hours, given fair weather. The number of days per year with potential midnight sun increases the closer towards either pole one goes. Although approximately defined by the polar circles, in practice the midnight sun can be seen as much as 55 miles (90 km) outside the polar circle, as described below, and the exact latitudes of the farthest reaches of midnight sun depend on topography and vary slightly year-to-year." (Source)
Polar Nights in lands near by the North Pole:
Again, Allah Almighty didn't say مشرق الشمس sunrise, which is the term that counters مغرب الشمس sunset. مغرب is derived from غرب west. No, instead, the Almighty used مطلع الشمس. The Noble Verses were talking about near by lands to the North Pole.
"...people who almost spoke unintelligibly" (18:93) لايكادون يفقهون قولا. This perfectly fits the Vikings when they were considered barbarians. They were brute, uncivilized, very primitive, disconnected from other civilizations, and didn't have a fully developed and intelligible language. In fact, the word itself, barbarian, originates from Greek, and it means one who speaks unintelligibly:
1-
"The word
barbarian
conjures up more forus than the original
Greek notion of
someone whose
unintelligible
non-Greek language sounds like “bar-
2- Also
from Indiana
University: "....And
finally, Maurice F. Hurley considers "Craft
and Handiwork: Wood, Antler and Bone as an
Everyday Material in
Viking-Age Waterford and
Cork," reminding us that most of the raw
materials for urban crafts came from the
surrounding hinterlands, even when these
were marked by disparate political
allegiances,
mutually
unintelligible languages
or sharp differences in ethnicity...."
(Source) 3-
"So what happened in the Northern Isles?
Dhil Qarnayn ذي القرنين (one with the double horns): Again, "Dhil Qarnayn" ذي القرنين in Noble Verse 18:83 means "one with the two horns". We read about his story in more details in Noble Verses 18:83-100: Dhul or Dhil = One who has. قرنين Qarnayn = two horns. They also spoke unintelligibly, the Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
Dhil = One who has.
Only said for the sun-up: Allah Almighty did not say that He made "no cover" for them from it for the sunset. He said it for the sun-up only, which further proves that indeed the sun being always up, in Noble Verse 18:90 below, is referring to a geographical area in the North, since so much geographical proofs, and 1000-year old maps below, also point to that location as well. "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. (The Noble Quran, 18:90)" "We made no cover...." was never mentioned for sunset. Only to "where the sun is up...." مطلع الشمس in Noble Verse 18:90, which further supports that "We made no cover...." is indeed talking about the Northern territories near the North Pole. See ample pictures of the sun never sets at the North Pole. See below. Remember that they are located near where the sun never sets. In the north, no shade was made from it for them. It is almost always shining on them: لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر. "We made no cover for them from it" (18:90). In other words, it never sets. Night almost never comes:
The infidels' nonsense: So the sun sets inside a body of water? [1] And how exactly does it rise back up again according to the anti-Islamics?
Possible Geographical and Astronomical Significance: I also believe that since Allah Almighty speaks also in plural about the sunrise and sunset points of the sun on earth, then it is possible that Allah Almighty here referred to geographical locations that have astronomical alignment significance. The sun and the earth orbit each other in an S-shaped or number 8 orbit: This is also all demonstrated in good details in the following video file and articles:
www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm This is why the sun doesn't orbit around the earth in one straight line. This is due to earth's axle tilt and change of orbit. So the sunset and sunrise points (plural) in the Glorious Quran could be astronomical points. This might be similar to the location of Mecca, and the location of the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, where Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was taken up to Heaven from that rock (before the Dome was built above it).
Consider the following moon's orbit Miracle
in the Glorious Quran. Notice below
"...until it ends up
looking like
حتى عاد...".
Where does it astronomically begin and end
up
عاد?
Again, Where does the moon astronomically begin and end? Read ample Noble Verses, analysis, quotations from scientific sources, and so much more in this article.
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Question: I was reading Sahîh Muslim and saw
a hadîth which confused me a lot. Modern science has proven that Earth is orbiting the
Sun. However, there is a hadîth that says the Sun goes around the Earth and when it
reaches a specific place under the Earth, it prostrates to Allah and then Allah permits it
to go to the same way, but when the Day of Judgment comes, Allah will command it to go in
the direction where it came from. Isnt this in conflict with modern science? Answered by the Scientific Research Committee - IslamToday.net |
We must look carefully at the texts in question to determine exactly what those texts are saying, and equally importantly, what they are not saying. This hadîth is found in Sahîh al-Bukhârî (3199, 7424). Its text, as related by Abû Dharr al-Ghifârî, is as follows:
It is also found in Sahîh Muslim (159,205). Its text, as related by Abû Dharr al-Ghifârî, is as follows:
The hadîth is also found in Sahîh al-Bukhârî in a highly abridged form (4803, 7433). Its text reads:
Ibn Hajar al-`Asqalânî, in Fath al-Bârî, his commentary on Sahîh al-Bukhârî, writes:
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My response:
The sub-sections of this section are:
1- The Prophet, according to the Noble Quran, was
given limited and little knowledge.
2- My response to the Hadiths above.
From
https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2220.msg9746#msg9746:
Imam Bukhari threw away thousands of Hadiths:
The Holy Quran made it clear that earth was: http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/bukhari.html
Do we
not have outside Bukhari this Hadith:
So maybe Imam Bukhari threw away the Hadiths
that did speak about the motion of earth in
space, because people refused to believe
them. They would think that
we would
feel the motion too if earth was in motion.
Didn't even a doofus from today's salafies
say this very exact thing today? Watch this
video: |
1- The Prophet, according to the Noble Quran, was given limited and little knowledge:
It is first of all important to know that it is quite possible that some of the Scientifically correct Hadiths from the Prophet were lost due to lack of beliefs or understanding from the people, hence lack of interest to propagate these Hadiths.
Another possible answer is that neither was Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, a scientist, nor was the Noble Quran a Science Book. While it is true that Allah Almighty gave many STUNNING Scientific and Numerical Miracles and Notions in the Noble Quran that clearly prove that the Noble Quran was truly revealed to Prophet Muhammad by a supernatural power, which we call GOD Almighty, but Allah Almighty did not cover every single scientific topic in the Noble Quran.
There is also a very important point that Muslims often miss regarding Prophet Muhammad, and that is his GOD-given knowledge. While it is true that Allah Almighty clearly declared in the Noble Quran that Prophet Muhammad doesn't utter nonsense and lies from his mouth and actions, but at the same time, Allah Almighty also did clearly declare that the Prophet and his followers and all of mankind were only given little and limited knowledge. Let us look at the following Noble Verses:
(a) Prophet Muhammad doesn't utter nonsense and lies
either through his words or actions:
"Your companion (Muhammad SAW) has neither gone astray nor has erred. Nor does he speak of (his own) desire. It is only an Inspiration that is inspired. He has been taught (this Quran) by one mighty in power (Jibrael (Gabriel)). (The Noble Quran, 53:2-5)"
"So Today (i.e. the Day of Resurrection), none of you can profit or harm one another. And We shall say to those who did wrong (i.e. worshipped others (like angels, jinns, prophets, saints, righteous persons, etc.) along with Allah): "Taste the torment of the Fire which you used to belie. And when Our Clear Verses are recited to them, they say: "This (Muhammad SAW) is naught but a man who wishes to hinder you from that which your fathers used to worship." And they say: "This is nothing but an invented lie." And those who disbelieve say of the truth when it has come to them (i.e. Prophet Muhammad SAW when Allah sent him as a Messenger with proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, etc.): "This is nothing but evident magic!" And We had not given them Scriptures which they could study, nor sent to them before you (O Muhammad SAW) any warner (Messenger). And those before them belied; these have not received one tenth (/th) of what We had granted to those (of old), yet they belied My Messengers, then how (terrible) was My denial (punishment)! Say (to them O Muhammad SAW): "I exhort you on one (thing) only: that you stand up for Allahs sake in pairs and singly, and reflect (within yourselves the life history of the Prophet SAW): there is no madness in your companion (Muhammad SAW), he is only a warner to you in face of a severe torment." Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Whatever wage I might have asked of you is yours. My wage is from Allah only. and He is Witness over all things." Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Verily! My Lord sends down Inspiration and makes apparent the truth (i.e. this Revelation that had come to me), the AllKnower of the Ghaib (unseen). Say (O Muhammad SAW): "The truth (the Quran and Allahs Inspiration) has come, and AlBatil (falsehood - Iblees (Satan)) can neither create anything nor resurrect (anything)." Say: "If (even) I go astray, I shall stray only to my own loss. But if I remain guided, it is because of the Inspiration of my Lord to me. Truly, He is AllHearer, Ever Near (to all things)." (The Noble Quran, 34:42-50)"
""He is only a man who has invented a lie against Allah, but we are not going to believe in him." He said: "O my Lord! Help me because they deny me." (The Noble Quran, 23:38-39)"
"Or say they: "He has invented a lie against Allah?" If Allah willed, He could have sealed your heart (so that you forget all that you know of the Quran). And Allah wipes out falsehood, and establishes the truth (Islam) by His Word (this Quran). Verily, He knows well what (the secrets) are in the breasts (of mankind). (The Noble Quran, 42:24)"
(b) Prophet Muhammad, his followers, and all humans were only given little and limited knowledge:
"And they ask you (O Muhammad SAW) concerning the Rooh (the Spirit); Say: "The Rooh (the Spirit): it is one of the things, the knowledge of which is only with my Lord. And of knowledge, you (mankind) have been given only a little." (The Noble Quran, 17:85)"
"Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as God willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith." (The Noble Quran, 7:188)"
"This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Apostle!) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with arrows, as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point). (The Noble Quran, 3:44)"
"God will not leave the believers in the state in which ye are now, until He separates what is evil from what is good nor will He disclose to you the secrets of the Unseen. But He chooses of His Apostles (For the purpose) whom He pleases. So believe in God. And His apostles: And if ye believe and do right, ye have a reward without measure. (The Noble Quran, 3:179)"
"With Him are the keys of the unseen, the treasures that none knoweth but He. He knoweth whatever there is on the earth and in the sea. Not a leaf doth fall but with His knowledge: there is not a grain in the darkness (or depths) of the earth, nor anything fresh or dry (green or withered), but is (inscribed) in a record clear (to those who can read). (The Noble Quran, 6:59)"
"Such is one of the stories of what happened unseen, which We reveal by inspiration unto thee; nor wast thou (present) with them then when they concerted their plans together in the process of weaving their plots. (The Noble Quran, 12:102)"
"Neither doth he withhold grudgingly a knowledge of the Unseen. (The Noble Quran, 81:24)"
In the light of this, I will go ahead and answer the above Hadiths.
2- My response to the Hadiths above:
Again, it is important to know that it is quite possible that some of the Scientifically correct Hadiths from the Prophet were lost due to lack of beliefs or understanding from the people, hence lack of interest to propagate these Hadiths. The following Hadith that exists in the earliest Muslim Hadith sources gives a STUNNING STATEMENT:
The sun never ceases nor disappears [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]:
Prophet Muhammad: The sun is in constant orbit always rising on people while setting on others.
عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما ان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سئل :هذه المغارب اين تغرب ؟ وهذه المطالع اين تطلع ؟ فقال صلى الله عليه وسلم هي على رسلها لا تبرح ولا تزول , تغرب عن قوم وتطلع على قوم ,وتغرب عن قوم وتطلع , فقوم يقولون غربت ,وقوم يقولون طلعت
"Ibn Abbas narrated on Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that the Prophet was asked: Where does the sun go after all of these sunsets? And where does it come from after all of these sunrises? The Prophet, peace be upon him, replied: It is in constant motion. It doesn't stop nor disappear. It sets on people and rises on others, and it sets on people and rises on others. So people would say it has risen while others say it has set."
Sources:
1- Jami'a Al-Usool li-ibn Al-Atheer.
جامع الأصول لابن الأثير
2- Musnad Al-Imam Abi Is'haq Al-Hamadani
مسند الامام ابي اسحاق الهمداني
3- Al-Ijaz Al-Ilmi Fe Al-Sunna Al-Nabawiyyah, Dr. Zahloul Al-Najjar, Page 132.
Allah Almighty
in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
- Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
-
The Glorious Quran also speaks about
many earths
[5]
and not just earth.
In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles: 1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here. Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file). |
www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
Question:
Did Prophet Muhammad know think that the earth was spherical or flat?
Answer:
In this Hadith, above, he certainly seems to have
known this fact very well. And this Hadith is even older than Sahih
Bukhari. It is important to know that Imam Bukhari and others
have declared that they have
discarded thousands of Hadiths:
www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/bukhari.html
This is to keep their volumes as simple and manageable as possible.
So it is quite possible that the Prophet spoke about the earth being
spherical, and the Glorious Quran certainly did, and
people just dismissed them as nonsense.
I have covered your question in great details at:
www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm
As to the Hadith in question, here is its text:
Sahîh al-Bukhârî (3199, 7424). Its text, as related by Abû Dharr al-Ghifârî, is as follows:
The Prophet (peace be upon him) said to me: O Abû Dharr! Do you know where the Sun goes when it sets?
I said: Allah and His Messenger know best.
He said: It goes until it prostrates beneath the Throne. Then it seeks permission and permission is granted to it. Soon it will prostrate and it will not be accepted from it, and seek permission and will not be granted permission. It will be said to it: Go back where you came from. Then it will rise from its setting place. This is Allahs statement: And the Sun runs on to its place of settlement. That is the determination of the Mighty the Knowing. [Sûrah YâSîn: 38].
عن أبي ذر رضي الله عنه أنه قال: قال النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم له حين غربت الشمس: “أتدري أين تذهب”؟ قلت الله ورسوله اعلم، قال: “فإنها تذهب حتى تسجد تحت العرش فتستأذن فيؤذن لها وتوشك أن تسجد فلا يقبل منها، وتستأذن فلا يؤذن لها، يقال لها ارجعي من حيث جئت، فتطلع من مغربها فذلك قوله تعالى: “والشمس تجري لمستقر لها ذلك تقدير العزيز العليم”.
What we have to understand from the above Hadiths is that the Prophet, peace be upon him, was rather aiming for more Glorification and Praising of Allah Almighty. Since every created thing that GOD Almighty created recognizes the Creator, Allah, and worships Him, then the sun too prostrates to GOD Almighty in its own way and worships Him. This is clearly mentioned in the following Noble Verses:
"Seest thou not that to God bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth,- the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as God shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for God carries out all that He wills. (The Noble Quran, 22:18)"
"They say: "God hath begotten a son" :Glory be to Him.-Nay, to Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: everything renders worship to Him. (The Noble Quran, 2:116)"
"To God do belong the unseen (secrets) of the heavens and the earth, and to Him goeth back every affair (for decision): then worship Him, and put thy trust in Him: and thy Lord is not unmindful of aught that ye do. (The Noble Quran, 11:123)"
So the Prophet wasn't really trying to prove a scientific theory here, even though his statements above don't make much scientific sense as far as our astronomists today would be concerned, because of the sun going underneath the throne of Allah Almighty and prostrating to Him and seeking His permission, etc.... But, nonetheless, his statements above are not in HOSTILITY with science either, because no where did the Prophet, for instance, say that the sun goes through a hole on earth (as the Hindu scriptures say), nor did he say that the sun goes UNDER THE EARTH! He said that the sun goes underneath the throne of Allah Almighty, prostrates to Him and seeks His permission, which again proves my point about the Prophet wasn't trying to say a scientific statement more than he was trying to really Glorify and Praise Allah Almighty as much as possible through his metaphoric speech. The clear-cut proof regarding his speech being metaphoric is the fact that he said that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty, which is obviously different from how we, humans, prostrate to the Almighty GOD.
Personally and frankly, I do not look forward for scientific notions in the Hadiths. I look for them in the Divine Revelations of Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran, and there are tons of them that are truly breath taking! Putting the Prophet and his Hadiths to the ultimate grilling and test is not fair and just! Putting the Noble Quran is definitely fair and just and Allah Almighty Has truly proven the Noble Quran to be a Divine Miracle and Revelation! The reason for this is following simple and logical reasons:
1- Only the Noble Quran is the Divine Revelation directly from Allah Almighty. The Hadiths are rather inspirations by Allah Almighty and His Angel(s) to the Prophet, which mostly and mainly covered social laws and issues.
2- The Prophet, as we clearly an indisputably saw in the Noble Verses above, was given limited and little knowledge, and thus, we can't expect sophisticated statements from him, because he didn't know everything nor was he capable of giving anything sophisticated as far as science is concerned.
3- The Prophet's statements weren't in hostility with science, and therefore, the Noble Verses above that state that the Prophet never utters nonsense and lies either through his words or actions are not in contradiction because as I said, the Prophet was given limited knowledge by GOD Almighty, and therefore, we can only expect limited interpretations by the him.
Conclusion:
In light of all of the evidence that I provided and demonstrated above, I'd like to summarize this article with the following statement:
We can only expect limited statements and interpretations by Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, because Allah Almighty Willed for him to only go this far and only have this capability as clearly stated in the Noble Verses above, and especially in Noble Verse 17:85.
So to answer the question of this article's title above: Does the Hadith really contain scientific errors regarding the sun's rising and setting?
Again and again, it is important to know that it is quite possible that some of the Scientifically correct Hadiths from the Prophet were lost due to lack of beliefs or understanding from the people, hence lack of interest to propagate these Hadiths. The following Hadith that exists in the earliest Muslim Hadith sources gives a STUNNING STATEMENT:
The sun never ceases nor disappears [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]:
Prophet Muhammad: The sun is in constant orbit always rising on people while setting on others.
عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما ان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سئل :هذه المغارب اين تغرب ؟ وهذه المطالع اين تطلع ؟ فقال صلى الله عليه وسلم هي على رسلها لا تبرح ولا تزول , تغرب عن قوم وتطلع على قوم ,وتغرب عن قوم وتطلع , فقوم يقولون غربت ,وقوم يقولون طلعت
"Ibn Abbas narrated on Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that the Prophet was asked: Where does the sun go after all of these sunsets? And where does it come from after all of these sunrises? The Prophet, peace be upon him, replied: It is in constant motion. It doesn't stop nor disappear. It sets on people and rises on others, and it sets on people and rises on others. So people would say it has risen while others say it has set."
Sources:
1- Jami'a Al-Usool li-ibn Al-Atheer.
جامع الأصول لابن الأثير
2- Musnad Al-Imam Abi Is'haq Al-Hamadani
مسند الامام ابي اسحاق الهمداني
3- Al-Ijaz Al-Ilmi Fe Al-Sunna Al-Nabawiyyah, Dr. Zahloul Al-Najjar,
Page 132.
Allah Almighty
in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
- Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
-
The Glorious Quran also speaks about
many earths
[5]
and not just earth.
In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles: 1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here. Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file). |
www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
Question:
Did Prophet Muhammad know think that the earth was spherical or flat?
Answer:
In this Hadith, above, he certainly seems to have
known this fact very well. And this Hadith is even older than Sahih
Bukhari. It is important to know that Imam Bukhari and others
have declared that they have
discarded thousands of Hadiths:
www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/bukhari.html
This is to keep their volumes as simple and manageable as possible.
So it is quite possible that the Prophet spoke about the earth being
spherical, and the Glorious Quran certainly did, and
people just dismissed them as nonsense.
I have covered your question in great details at:
www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm
As to the Hadith in question, the answer is:
Since the statement was about the sun setting and that it prostrates to the Throne of Allah Almighty after it sets, and perhaps the Prophet said (but wasn't documented) that the SUN ALWAYS PROSTRATES to the Throne of Allah Almighty, since this statement can not be taught in in astronomy classes, nor can we include them in academic astronomy books. However, his statement is also like our metaphors today. The sun never actually sets nor does it actually rise and the Hadith above clearly says this. The earth rotates around its own axle and swims around the sun. Allah Almighty did Say in the Glorious Quran:
"Seest thou not that to God bow down in worship all things that are in the heavens and on earth,- the sun, the moon, the stars; the hills, the trees, the animals; and a great number among mankind? But a great number are (also) such as are fit for Punishment: and such as God shall disgrace,- None can raise to honour: for God carries out all that He wills. (The Noble Quran, 22:18)"
From a theological point of view, and from
the limited knowledge that Allah Almighty, with His own Divine Will, gave the Prophet, the answer is clearly no, because the Prophet can not be expected
to give accurate scientific statements according to the Noble Quran. Only Allah
Almighty is expected in the Noble Quran to give them, and He has already done so with
ample Noble Verses. That is why I am a Muslim today, because Islam is not only a
perfect Divine Religion that I can live by in my daily life, and
keeps me morally pure and chaste, but the Noble Quran is also perfect and
stood the test of time and the grilling of science! It would be unfair to put
Prophet Muhammad, who had limited knowledge by Allah Almighty's Divine Will, through the
grilling of science. It's just not Islamically right as I clearly demonstrated and
proved above.
And like I said, it is quite possible that some of the Scientifically correct Hadiths from the Prophet were lost due to lack of beliefs or understanding from the people, hence lack of interest to propagate these Hadiths.
Please visit: The Amazing Scientific Miracles in the Noble Quran.
All Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone, and all peace and blessings be upon our beloved, cherished and blessed Prophet, Muhammad, peace, blessings and mercy be upon him!
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The egg-shaped earth in the Glorious Quran.
Detailed rebuttal about the shape of the Earth in the Glorious Quran. Detailed discussion about SUTIHAT.
Did Prophet Muhammad understand everything in the Glorious Quran?
Did the Noble Quran really say that the sun sets and rises on the earth?
The sun's rising and setting POINTS on earth, mentioned in the Noble Quran and confirmed by science.
Many rising and setting points of the sun on earth.
The North and South Poles, and Prayer and Fasting Times.
An article by brother Kasem Suleiman. An Arabic article in PDF format.
The Motion of Earth in the Noble Quran.
The Noble Quran confirms that the earth is rotating around its axle.
Allah Almighty said that the earth is "egg-shaped".
The Earth is round according to Islam.
The Noble Quran confirms that the earth is rotating around itself.
Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.
Rebuttals to Avijit Roy articles.
The story of Gog and Magog and the Iron Gates in the Noble Quran.
Quran's
STUNNING
Divine Miracles:
[1] Here are some of my favorite Stunning Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran that are listed in the main sections, below: 1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here. Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file). Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles. 2- The Great Miracle. Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran called the Number 19 Miracle "One of the Mighty Ones (Miracles)" (74:30-37) [1] [2]. See the 100s of Noble Verses that clearly testify to this Great Miracle. Also, did you know that Allah Almighty Said in Surat Nuh (that's Noble Chapter Nuh (Noah)) that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years among his people. Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah is exactly written in 950 Letters [1] [2]! You can thoroughly see this in the scanned images that thoroughly verify every single Noble Letter, in the links. Click on the links to see the many other Numerical Miracles in the Holy Quran. Also, see the Numerical Miracles section along with all of the other great sections. Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.
4- The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, if you add each Chapter's number with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8. Do this for all Chapters.
1-
The sum of the odd numbers from the list =
6555.
See the
XLS file for 100% confirmation. Also, see the ample STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran, with
1,000s of examples! [1] (zip file).
5-
Please also checkout the many hundreds
(1,000s) of
Great Numerical Miracles, and the
many tens (10s) of other
Great Scientific Miracles:
Click on the following numbers:
1-
Geology, Earth's spherical
expansion, formation, Mountains
and Oceanology.
4-
STUNNING Numerical Miracles
in the Glorious Quran.
With 1,000s of examples!
[4]
5-
Medicine, Humans, Insects
and Animals.
10-
Rebuttals.
1- The explosion
of the Universe,
Galaxies and
Stars bring about
Smoke.
The
Glorious Quran
declares that the
earth is
spherical:
[1]
www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
6- The Glorious Quran's Perfect Preservation despite all of the odds and the many challenges to corrupt It. |
Update!
New scientific quotes, evidence and proofs regarding "dahaha" (egg-shaped and expanded in Arabic) and its link to the earth's expansion, egg-shape, and its egg-shaped orbit around the sun were added to this article: If the Noble Quran says the earth is "egg-shaped" through a Notion, then why couldn't Prophet Muhammad just say it clear in plain Arabic?
Important Notes on the
Scientific Notions
in the Noble Quran:
Why does the Noble Quran
use words that have multiple meanings?
Why should we accept the scientific meaning of the Word in the Noble Quran that fits our discoveries today, and not accept any of its other meanings, especially that the Word was revealed 1,500 years ago?
It is important to know that the Noble Quran doesn't give scientific equations. It instead gives many scientific notions that had been proven today to be clear Scientific Miracles because they fit perfectly with modern science. One of the Divine Miracles of the Noble Quran is that Allah Almighty (through His perfect use of the complex and artistic language of Arabic) used scientific notions to make the Noble Quran truly dynamic for all the times that It is presented in. These scientific notions hid in them, for many centuries, the scientific statements and discoveries that we just came to know today, and perhaps are even hiding in them more statements that our future generations will discover. These notions are basically key words and/or terms that describe certain creations of GOD Almighty. For example: 1- Allah Almighty in one Word said that the Universe is expanding and in another term said it will shrink back again. Science confirmed that today through the big bang and the cosmic crunch theories. 2- Allah Almighty in two Words mentioned the layers of waves and darkness inside the vast oceans. Science today, again, confirmed that. 3- Allah Almighty in one Word said that He made the earth as an egg. We all know today that earth is spherical and science did confirm that the earth is indeed egg-shaped. Please visit: If the Noble Quran says the earth is "egg-shaped" through a Notion, then why couldn't Prophet Muhammad just say it clear in plain Arabic? (detailed proofs demonstrating the miracle of the Word/Notion "dahaha"). 4- Allah Almighty in few terms in several Noble Verses said that mountains prevent the earth from shaking. Science today did indeed confirm that mountains stabilize the earth and prevent it from constantly shaking while it is rotating around its own axle. 5- Allah Almighty in one term talked about the earth reducing in size. Science today indeed confirmed that earth is shrinking in size due to volcanoes and earth "debris" caused by erosions, earthquakes, sea-waves changing the shape and condition of the land and other natural factors, escaping to space. In fact, it is estimated that earth lost approximately 10-40 miles from its radius or depth size in the past 10 or so billion years! (I heard this from Dr. Zaghloul Al-Naggar on TV. My numbers may not be quite accurate because I am relying on memory, but the fact of the earth shrinking is definitely true, and in the link above I have provided several quotes from Western scientists demonstrating why the earth is reducing/shrinking in size). 6- Allah Almighty mentioned in one term the moon's fault line. Science today confirmed that the moon's fault line, which is splitting it in half, was caused by major moonquakes. 7- Allah Almighty in one term talked about the earth's 7 properties. Science today confirmed that the earth has 7 inner layers and 7 atmospheric layers. 8- Allah Almighty in one term talked about the region inside the human-brain that controls the movements. Science today confirmed that. Many more examples (and the list is growing) are provided at: The overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Noble Quran section. The Prophet of Islam, peace be upon him, was already accused of being crazy by the infidels. Have Allah Almighty given sophisticated scientific statements that covered exact details as we scientifically know them today, then no one would've believed the Prophet of Islam, because: 1- He wasn't a scientist and such science wasn't known to man back then, which makes it impossible for him to explain it, even if Allah Almighty Inspired it to him. The information would not have been understood by the nomad bedouins 1,500 years ago. 2- People had already inclined toward declaring the Prophet as an insane man, and many already did. Any extraordinary supernatural statement that requires a lot of scientific explanations such as "we have people standing on the other side of the world (under our feet), and all humans are actually standing on the side of the earth not on its top or back." Such statement would require knowledge in gravity and astronomy, which man did not know about 1,500 years go. Like I said, many have accused the Prophet of being a madman. Allah Almighty did not want to complicate Islam, especially to the people who did not know much about science: "Say (to them O Muhammad SAW): "I exhort you on one (thing) only: that you stand up for Allahs sake in pairs and singly, and reflect (within yourselves the life history of the Prophet SAW): there is no madness in your companion (Muhammad SAW), he is only a warner to you in face of a severe torment." (The Noble Quran, 34:46)""And (O people) your companion (Muhammad (Peace be upon him)) is not a madman; (The Noble Quran, 81:22)"
Again, please also visit: The overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Noble Quran section.
2- The complex language of Arabic: Arabic is a very complex, artistic and poetical language by nature! A single word can mean a host of meanings. The art and beauty of Arabic comes in how a person constructs and puts together words to form a sentence or paragraph. The art and creativity in the style and poetry are what determine the strength and beauty of the sentence or poem. That is why the Noble Quran is extremely difficult to understand sometimes, even by the fluent and professional Arabic speakers. That is why Muslims always say that the translations of the Noble Quran do it absolutely no justice, because the poetry and complexity of language-art are completely compromised in the translation. What the English reader, for instance, is left with when reading the English Noble Quran, is the subject that the Noble Verses are talking about. But he/she doesn't see the beautiful and complex stylistic and linguistic Divine Miracle that the Arabic text carries in it. At any rate, Allah Almighty Chose for the Noble Quran to be Difficult to comprehend, and to be quite a challenge to interpret and translate, because: 1- He Chose to have the Miracle of the Noble Quran be an ever lasting one by living in the text of the Holy Book Itself. 2- To demonstrate Its Divinity to the Arabs back then, who were very experienced/mature, fluent and also addicted to poetry, along with the Arabic-speaking people today, and to challenge them and to show them that certainly the Noble Quran is not just an average everyday book. It is indeed a Divine Miracle, proving that Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is indeed a Truthful and real Prophet. 3- This is Allah Almighty's way to Lead to the Right Path whom He pleases and to Lead astray whom He pleases. |
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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1] Here are some examples from the 1000s of stunning Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran. Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind: 1- The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here. This Miracle is covered in 100s (hundreds) of Noble Verses.2- Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years. Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters. You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles. |