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1-  The Halocline Phenomenon:

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     Atheist Richard Dawkins refuted by Muslim girls on Halocline Phenomenon and Scientific Miracle in the Noble Quran.
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  • Also in the same video, I have added a clip that refutes Richard Dawkins salt and fresh water in a glass of water challenge.  Notice how the egg in the fresh water sank, while the egg in the salt water floated, and while the egg in the mixed water stayed in the middle.  This is because it floated on the salt water and sank under the fresh water in the same glass:
      

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    The Miracle of separating the salty seas' waters from each others (with barriers) - Mentioned in the Glorious Quran and confirmed by Science:

    The sections of this article are:

    1-  Allah Almighty's Divine Claims.

          (a)-  Response to an objection. [1]

    2-  The Scientific Proofs.
    3-  Conclusion.

      

      

      

    1-  Allah Almighty's Divine Claims:

    Note:  In this section, I have added the sub-section "(a)-  Response to an objection" [1], below.

      

    The Noble Quran is filled with scientific statements and notions.  These are statements of Allah Almighty describing how He created things on earth and in the Universe.  What's most amazing is that all of these scientific statements and notions had been proven to be in perfect agreement with science and our modern-day scientific discoveries.  Allah Almighty made the Noble Quran be Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Everlasting Divine Miracle and proof for Prophethood.  The Holy Book certainly stood the test of time 1,500 years ago with Its Claims, Prophecies and Miraculous language-eloquence, and it does again and again in our day today with Its overwhelming agreement with science and discoveries that were not known to man 1,500 years ago.

    Allah Almighty Said: "We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things?  (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"

    With this said, let us look at what Allah Almighty also Said in the Noble Quran:  

    Noble Verse(s) 55:19-55:22
    Yusuf Ali:

    [055:019]  He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting together:

    [055:020]  Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress:

    [055:021]  Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?

    [055:022]  Out of them come Pearls and Coral:

    Arabic (from right to left):

    55:19 مرج البحرين يلتقيان

    55:20 بينهما برزخ لايبغيان

    55:21 فباي الاء ربكما تكذبان

    55:22 يخرج منهما اللؤلؤ والمرجان

    Right from Noble Verse 55:22 we know that the Noble Verses are referring to salty seas and oceans, because pearls and corals could only be found there.  The Noble Verse says: "Out of them come (يخرج منهما) Pearls and Coral".

    The Miracles in following articles are also related to this article:

  • Darkness in the seas and internal waves in the Noble Quran, confirmed by science.
      
  • Waves and layers upon waves and layers in the seas.
      
  • Oceanography and the layers of waves and darkness in the seas.
      
  • See the sub-section "(a)-  Response to an objection" [1], below.

      

    Now there is another Noble Verse that speaks about a barrier that exists between the sweet and salty waters (rivers and the seas that they pour into) that prevents them from mixing into one another:

    Noble Verse(s) 25:53
    Yusuf Ali:

    [025:053]  It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.

    Arabic (from right to left):

    25:53 وهو الذي مرج البحرين هذا عذب فرات وهذا ملح اجاج وجعل بينهما برزخا وحجرا محجورا

    While this Noble Verse, 25:53, is indeed still referring to a Great Wonder from Allah Almighty, but Its knowledge was certainly known to man 1,500 years ago, and hence, to me, I couldn't use it as a stunning Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran that proves that the Glorious Quran had a piece of Scientific information in It that only man today was able to discover and confirm.  I therefore say that only Noble Verses 55:19-22 are Scientifically Miraculous to us, and not Noble Verse 25:53, even if the latter Noble Verse is still Scientifically accurate.

    So having said that, are Noble Verses 55:19-22 really Miraculous?  Are there really a barriers between some seas and oceans that prevent them from mixing with each others?  Aren't they all a one big salty body of water with only symbolic names that we gave to parts of it depending on their locations and regions??

  • Example: The Persian Gulf was named as such because it bordered the Persian Empire, and was dominated by it.
  • Do seas and oceans different from each others and separated from each others, while still being physically bordering/connected with each others, do actually exist out there on planet earth?  Or are all of the salty waters on earth are no more than a one big - exactly the same - sea, and there are really no real "seas" and "oceans" out there, because all of the waters in the oceans and seas are the same?

      
      

    (a)-  Response to an objection:

    Objection:

    "With regard to the barrier between the two seas that is mentioned in these verses, there are two scholarly views concerning it:

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    That what is meant by the barrier between the two seas (i.e., between rivers and seas) is the vast lands that separate the rivers from the seas, so that there is no mixing of their waters; rather each of them has its own course and destination that is separate from that of the other.

    This is the literalist interpretation that we find with many of the commentators.

      

    Response:

    First of all, "land" is not mentioned anywhere in Noble Verses  55:19-22  and 25:53.  So it can not be a literalist interpretation.

    Also, 55:19 مرج البحرين يلتقيان MARAJA AL-BAHRAYN YALTAQIYAAN (merged the two bodies of waters) does not imply that there is land between them.  The Noble Verses are clear about actual bodies of water look like they're one when they're not, because there are barriers (BARZAKH) between them:  55:20 بينهما برزخ لايبغيان  .

    The Noble Verses in 55:19-22  and 25:53 speak about:

      

    1-  Salty bodies of water merging together:

    ‏55:19 مرج البحرين يلتقيان
    ‏55:20 بينهما برزخ لايبغيان

    ‏55:21 فباي الاء ربكما تكذبان
    ‏55:22 يخرج منهما اللؤلؤ والمرجان

    [055:019]  He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting يلتقيان together:
    [055:020]  Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress:
    [055:021]  Then which of the favours of your Lord will ye deny?
    [055:022]  Out of them come  Right from Noble Verse 55:22 we know that the Noble Verses are referring to salty seas and oceans, because pearls and corals could only be found there.  The Noble Verse says: "Out of them come (يخرج منهما) Pearls and Coral".

      

    2-  Salty and fresh bodies of water merging together:

    ‏25:53 وهو الذي مرج البحرين هذا عذب فرات وهذا ملح اجاج وجعل بينهما برزخا وحجرا محجورا

    [025:053]  It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.

    We all know rivers pour into salty seas.  No lands separate them.  And the BIGGER MIRACLE is in the Barriers that are between the salty waters that science has just recently just confirmed in our age.  Also, notice يلتقيان (meet) in Noble Verse 55:19

      
      

    How can they meet يلتقيان if there is land separating them?

     

    And "land" is not mentioned anywhere here!

      
      

      

    Notice how Allah Almighty first said that He Merged the two meeting bodies of water (55:19), and then He Said between them a barrier that prevents them from transgressing one another (55:20):

    [055:019]  He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting يلتقيان together:
    [055:020]  Between them is a Barrier whi
    ch they do not transgress:

      

    They have already met in Noble Verse 55:19

      

    So how can land here be the barrier that prevent them from transgressing one another when they've already met and touched each other?  And again, "land" is not mentioned in any of the Noble Verses.  Clearly, the vast lands separating the bodies of waters is not the "literalist interpretation that we find with many of the commentators".  It is incorrect.

      

      

    2-  The Scientific Proofs:

    The following Scientific articles, using an example of only one sea and one ocean, clearly demonstrate and prove the Glorious Quran's Miracle:

      

    Article #1:

    The following picture and quotes are from NASA.  Notice how the NASA scientist used the words: separates, barrier:

    "This image is a mosaic of two photographs taken by astronauts aboard the International Space Station viewing large internal waves in the Strait of Gibraltar. These subsurface internal waves occur at depths of about 100 m, but appear in the sunglint as giant swells flowing eastward into the Mediterranean Sea.

    The narrow Strait of Gibraltar is the gatekeeper for water exchange between the Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea. A top layer of warm, relatively fresh water from the Atlantic Ocean flows eastward into the Mediterranean Sea. In return, a lower, colder, saltier layer of water flows westward into the North Atlantic ocean.
    A density boundary separates the layers at about 100 m depth.

    Like traffic merging on a highway, the water flow is constricted in both directions
    because it must pass over a shallow submarine barrier, the Camarinal Sill. When large tidal flows enter the Strait, internal waves (waves at the density boundary layer) are set off at the Camarinal Sill as the high tide relaxes. The waves—sometimes with heights up to 100 m — travel eastward. Even though the waves occur at great depth and the height of the waves at the surface is almost nothing, they can be traced in the sunglint because they concentrate the biological films on the water surface, creating slight differences in roughness.

    In this image, the tidal bore creates internal waves (top arrow) that propagate eastward and expand outward into the Mediterranean in a big arc (near bottom). Other features can be traced in the sun's reflections. Linear and V-shaped patterns (bottom arrow) are wakes of ships, providing evidence for the heavy ship traffic through the narrow waters between Spain and Morocco.

    Water features in the sunglint pattern appear to the astronaut to be extremely transient, visible only briefly (a few seconds) as the spacecraft passes rapidly overhead. Photographs from space of the ocean sunglint pattern are a tool for studying physical oceanographic and atmospheric processes and other phenomena that affect surface roughness."
      (Source)

      

    Article #2:

    http://eol.jsc.nasa.gov/newsletter/uft/uft2.htm


     
    Strait of Gibraltar [STS41G-40-050]
     
    Highlighted by the sunglint, internal waves called "solitons" can be seen arching through the Strait of Gibraltar into the Mediterranean Sea. Once a day the high tide produces sufficient energy to propagate solitons atop the strong density boundary between the heavier, more saline bottom water flowing west and the lighter, fresher Atlantic water flowing east. The Strait is shallow enough to allow the internal waves (up to 60 meters in amplitude) to manifest themselves as crests (no more than 10 centimeters high) on the sea surface. During World War II, German U-boats were able to silence their motors and ride these internal waves undetected into the Mediterranean.

    And in regards to the Miracle of the Internal Waves in the seas and oceans, the Glorious Quran mentioned it 1,500 years ago:

  • Darkness in the seas and internal waves in the Noble Quran, confirmed by science.
      
  • Waves and layers upon waves and layers in the seas.
      
  • Oceanography and the layers of waves and darkness in the seas.
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    Article #3:

    This article also quotes NASA.  Notice how the author used the word "separates":

    "Solitons are migrating waves that - once they have been activated - keep on moving constantly with the same wave height and interval. Thus these waves move over a long distance without changing their characteristics.

    These waves were first discovered by John Scott Russell in a river. He observed that a wave packet (several waves), that was caused by a boat abruptly stopping didn't subside as usual, but continued running upstream without changing its height, form or interval. He followed the waves upstream on the back of his horse. From that time on, his interest was awaken and he started researching about these waves he called "waves of transition".

    There are different ways which such waves might be produced. In the Strait of Gibraltar this happens mainly by the change of high tide to low tide (thus the name). The waves are activated by a higher sill on the Atlantic coast of the Strait and by the narrowness of the Strait. The shallowest area is situated on the Atlantic and Moroccan side and is called Camarinal Sill. The Strait is only 290 m deep at that point.

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    Figure: topographical map of the Strait of Gibraltar, where you can see the shallowest point, Camarinal Sill.
    Source:
    http://www.ifm.uni-hamburg.de/ers-sar/Sdata/oceanic/intwaves/gibraltar/intro/

    The second reason of the formation of such a wave packet is the fact, that there are two main currents in the Strait of Gibraltar: a salted one in high depth, that flows from the Mediterranean Sea to the Atlantic Ocean and another one less salty in the upper 100 - 200 meters, that flows from the Atlantic Ocean to the Mediterranean Sea. This situation results in a Halocline, a salinity gradient (density layer) that separates the salty layer from the less salty one. The depth of the halocline depends on the underground, the currents and the tides.

    At the turn of the tides there happens a depression of the density layer. This depression is especially important at the lower sills in the beginning of the Strait of Gibraltar. After the change of the tidal current an intern tidal wave is activated in about 100 m depth. This wave is the beginning of a wave packet of intern Solitons that migrate far into the Mediterranean Sea.

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    Figure: edited satellite photo of the strait of Gibraltar. Tidal wave activated at Camarinal Sill which leads to solitons that migrate far into the Mediterranean Sea. Source:
    http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/NewImages/images.php3?img_id=16581]

    These waves may be recognized on the surface as a relatively intense swell. They may also be seen from the outer-space, as in general there is a high concentration of biological films.

    As I am very interested in these waves, it was an exciting experience to see these solitons in reality."  (Source)

      

    Article #4:

    "In the Arabic text the word 'barzakh' means a barrier or a partition. The Arabic word 'maraja' literally means 'they both meet and mix with each other.' Early commentators of the QUR'AN were unable to explain the two opposite meanings for the two bodies of water, i.e. they meet and mix, and at the same time, there is a barrier between them. Modern Science has discovered that in places where two different seas meet, there is a barrier between them. This barrier divides the two seas so that each sea has ita own temperature, salinity and density. {Principles of Oceanography, Davis, pp. 92-93.} Oceanologists are now in a better position to explain this verse. There is a slanted unseen water barrier between the seas through which water from one sea passes to the other. But when the water from one sea enters the other sea, it loses its distinctive characteristic and becomes homogenized with the other water. In a way this barrier serves as a transitional homogenizing area for the two waters. This scientific phenonmenon mentioned in the QUR'AN was also confirmed by Dr. William Hay who is a well-known marine scientist and Professor og Geological Sciences at the University of Colorado, U.S.A."  (Source)

      

    Article #5:

    1-  The Halocline Phenomenon:

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         (Click on image to enlarge)
         Atheist Richard Dawkins refuted by Muslim girls on Halocline Phenomenon and
         Scientific Miracle in the Noble Quran.
         Click to watch video.
      

  • Also in the same video, I have added a clip that refutes Richard Dawkins salt and fresh water in a glass of water challenge.  Notice how the egg in the fresh water sank, while the egg in the salt water floated, and while the egg in the mixed water stayed in the middle.  This is because it floated on the salt water and sank under the fresh water in the same glass:
      

    (Click on image to play video)

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    3-  Conclusion:

    Again, the Noble Quran is filled with scientific statements and notions.  These are statements of Allah Almighty describing how He created things on earth and in the Universe.  What's most amazing is that all of these scientific statements and notions had been proven to be in perfect agreement with science and our modern-day scientific discoveries.  Allah Almighty made the Noble Quran be Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) Everlasting Divine Miracle and proof for Prophethood.  The Holy Book certainly stood the test of time 1,500 years ago with Its Claims, Prophecies and Miraculous language-eloquence, and it does again and again in our day today with Its overwhelming agreement with science and discoveries that were not known to man 1,500 years ago.

    Allah Almighty Said: "We will soon show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things?  (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"

    Indeed, Allah Almighty did Create seas and oceans that are separated from each others, and are different from each others, and even have different life forms from each others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).  And they do not transgress each others because they have barriers between them that are created from different degrees in

    1. Salinity
    2. Temperature
    3. Density

    So yes, Noble Verses 55:19-22 are indeed Scientifically accurate, and are indeed a stunning Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran!

    Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone for making the Noble Quran be the Perfect and Everlasting Miracle, for us humans, out of all of His Divine Miracles!  And may Allah Almighty send His Peace, Mercy and Blessings upon our Beloved and Blessed Prophet, Teacher and Role Model, Muhammad.  Ameen.

      

      

      

      

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    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [
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    Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
     

    Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
      

    1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


    Coincidence?
      See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

    2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

    3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
      

           -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
           -  Is rotating around itself.
           -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
           -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
      

    "When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
      
    As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
    trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

     

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

      
    Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called
    slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


    Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
      

    John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

    GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.