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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

      
  
  

"19" - THE NUMBER OF HELL'S ANGELS

By
Abdul Haleem

 

Rashad Khalifa claimed that

*74:30-35 This ``One of the great miracles'' provides the first physical evidence that the Quran is God's message to the world. This 19-based miracle is detailed in Appendix 1.  

http://www.submission.org/suras/sura74.html

Where did RK get "19"?

Go to Quran 74:27-31:

074.027
YUSUFALI: And what will explain to thee what Hell-Fire is?
PICKTHAL: - Ah, what will convey unto thee what that burning is! -
SHAKIR: And what will make you realize what hell is?

074.028
YUSUFALI: Naught doth it permit to endure, and naught doth it leave alone!-
PICKTHAL: It leaveth naught; it spareth naught
SHAKIR: It leaves naught nor does it spare aught.

074.029
YUSUFALI: Darkening and changing the colour of man!
PICKTHAL: It shrivelleth the man.
SHAKIR: It scorches the mortal.

074.030
YUSUFALI: Over it are Nineteen.
PICKTHAL: Above it are nineteen.
SHAKIR: Over it are nineteen.

074.031
YUSUFALI: And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have fixed their number only as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth Allah intend by this?" Thus doth Allah leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than a warning to mankind.

PICKTHAL: We have appointed only angels to be wardens of the Fire, and their number have We made to be a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve; that those to whom the Scripture hath been given may have certainty, and that believers may increase in faith; and that those to whom the Scripture hath been given and believers may not doubt; and that those in whose hearts there is disease, and disbelievers, may say: What meaneth Allah by this similitude? Thus Allah sendeth astray whom He will, and whom He will He guideth. None knoweth the hosts of thy Lord save Him. This is naught else than a Reminder unto mortals.

SHAKIR: And We have not made the wardens of the fire others than angels, and We have not made their number but as a trial for those who disbelieve, that those who have been given the book may be certain and those who believe may increase in faith, and those who have been given the book and the believers may not doubt, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the unbelievers may say: What does Allah mean by this parable? Thus does Allah make err whom He pleases, and He guides whom He pleases, and none knows the hosts of your Lord but He Himself; and this is naught but a reminder to the mortals.

"19" is THE NUMBER OF ANGELS APPOINTED TO GUARD HELL!

Even RK admits this in HIS translation of verses 74:30-31:

[74:30] Over it is nineteen.
[74:31] We appointed angels to be guardians of Hell, and we assigned their number (19) . . .

THAT'S IT!

[N]owhere, in fully detailed Quran , I repeat NOWHERE God mentioned that some mathemathico-numerical code, or sign called 19 that will increase faith. . . .

http://members.nbci.com/zlatanp/19Deceit/massacre.htm

Believers in the code beat the verse to the death and extricate from it that - it is not "19 of malaikah" that are fitna/punishment for those who disbelieved(in hereafter)- but No 19 as an abstract and symbol of code 19 - is fitna/punishment/trial for disbelievers (in this world).  They say "their number" is not "19 of malaikah" but "their number" is simply -"19" . . .

They laugh at me and ridicule when I say that their number is not 19, but 19 of them - 19 malaikah...

http://members.nbci.com/zlatanp/19Deceit/massacre.htm

They wonder:" but why 19 malaikah"? "Why do you think God chooses the "number" of the angles over saqar to be 19...?" 

I will answer with another question : Why EIGHT malaikah will carry arsh (throne) of Allah at j[udgment] day as mentioned in Quran?? Why do you think God chooses 8 angels to carry His throne at J[udgment] day??

[Quran] 69/17 "And the angels will be on its sides, and EIGHT will bear, that Day, above them, the Throne of thy Lord." 

I really do not know Gods secrets and why 19 angels suits the best to be guardian and performer of torments in hell... as well as I have no idea why 8 angels suits the best to carry the Throne at J-day...

Some new code? Code 8? 

Why there are exactly 11 players in soccer? Why not 12 ? Why not 10?

God knows why exactly 19 angels are needed in hell . . . And it is not of a big importance to us...Our major concern should be to avoid the punishment which they perform . . .

The phrase "None knows the soldiers of your Lord except He" seems to me as a good explanation for this. No one knows why exactly 19 malaikah are upon hell fire. . . only God know his soldiers- their characteristics, their capabilities, and He knows why he chose exactly 19 malaikah, but we know that their purpose is to punish and torture disbelievers in hell (Quran 66/6)

Probably the traits of malaikahs are such that it requires to be 19 of them in order to perfectly and effectively perform all the commands of punishing and torturing of disbelievers in hell. 

If God made/set/appointed some other number, people would again ask: why this number? Why not some other number? Why exactly this number? Why not this and that?. . . I leave them to God . . .

(some said that 19 symbolizes a large, indefinite number, this also makes sense - a lot of malaikah for torturing of disbelievers in hell)

On the other side God surely knew that one day will come some people who will want to extricate some unquranic doctrines using parts of some verses so He gave them a chance . . . (Quran 3/7)

Also, nowhere, in fully detailed Quran , I repeat NOWHERE God mentioned that some mathemathico-numerical code, or sign called 19 that will increase faith . . . 

Ibid. 

This is an additional clarification of the expression "their number" mentioned in [Qurna] 74/31 Suppose that someone asks me: "how many lawyers [do] we need to win this lawsuit?"

And suppose that I answer:

Such **number** which will be able to perform all the numerous tasks, BUT which, in the same time, would be able to fully COOPERATE on performing their duties WITHOUT DISRUPTING each other . . . 

When I answer that this or that number is enough/needed to do the job, it is clear to every healthy person that actually THEY will do the job and not their number as an abstract 5, 6, 7, 8 etc. . . .

This is a perfect explanation of "their number" in [Quran] 74/31. . . 

Look again what God says in [Quran] 9/36:

"indeed the *number of months* in the sight of Allah is *12 months*..."

Is Allah stupid??

Allah said "the *number of months*...is *12 months*"

Why did not Allah said "the number of months is 12"?? but He said "the *number of months*...is *12 months*". . . .

(So - their number is not 19, but 19 of them - 19 malaikah...)

Of course it is the same whether you say "the number of months is 12" or "12 months" - it is just human language and everybody know what is meant..

The same case is with "their number" in [Quran] 74/31 When Allah said: "we did not made/set their number but a fitna/punishment for those who disbelieve(d)in order that..."  It simply means that 19 of malaikah are punishment for disbelievers(in hell)and this quranic admonition will result in effects listed after that-increasing in faith, removing doubts etc. 

http://members.nbci.com/zlatanp/19Deceit/massacre.htm

So Rashad Khalifa did nothing short of creating a theology based on THE NUMBER OF ANGELS WHO GUARD HELL.

This would be like a Christian sect claiming that the Bible's "secret number" was "666" - the number of "the Beast" in Revelation 13:18!

[Thanks to Brother Zlatan for providing materials that composed so large a part of this article!  See Zlatan's complete site http://members.nbci.com/zlatanp/19Deceit/]  

 

 

 

 

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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  
       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.