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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

Proverbs 8 contains no proof of Trinity!

By

Abdul Haleem

Sajita has claimed that Proverbs 8 contains "proof" that Jeus was the "master craftsman" who assisted God in creation of the Universe.

Unfortuantely for Sajita this claim is UNSUPPORTED by the Bible Text - IF READ IN CONTEXT:

HERE IS THE COMPLETE TEXT OF PROVERBS 8:

1:
Does not WISDOM call,
does not understanding raise HER voice?
2:
On the heights beside the way,
in the paths she takes HER stand;
3:
beside the gates in front of the town,
at the entrance of the portals SHE CRIES ALOUD:
4:
"To you, O men, I CALL,
and MY CRY is to the sons of men.
5:
O simple ones, learn prudence;
O foolish men, pay attention.
6:
Hear, for I WILL SPEAK noble things,
and from MY LIPS will come what is right;
7:
for MY MOUTH will utter truth;
wickedness is an abomination to MY LIPS.
8:
All the words of MY MOUTH are righteous;
there is nothing twisted or crooked in them.
9:
They are all straight to him who understands
and right to those who find knowledge.
10:
Take MY INSTRUCTION instead of silver,
and knowledge rather than choice gold;
11:
for WISDOM is better than jewels,
and all that you may desire cannot compare with HER.
12:
I, WISDOM, dwell in prudence,
and I FIND knowledge and discretion.
13:
The fear of the LORD is hatred of evil.
Pride and arrogance and the way of evil
and perverted speech I HATE.
14:
I HAVE counsel and sound wisdom,
I HAVE insight, I have strength.
15:
By ME kings reign,
and rulers decree what is just;
16:
by ME princes rule,
and nobles govern the earth.
17:
I LOVE those who love ME,
and those who seek ME diligently find ME.
18:
Riches and honor are with ME,
enduring wealth and prosperity.
19:
MY FRUIT is better than gold, even fine gold,
and MY YIELD than choice silver.
20:
I WALK in the way of righteousness,
in the paths of justice,
21:
endowing with wealth those who love ME,
and filling their treasuries.
22:
The LORD created ME at the beginning of his work,
the first of his acts of old.
23:
Ages ago I WAS set up,
at the first, before the beginning of the earth.
24:
When there were no depths I WAS brought forth,
when there were no springs abounding with water.
25:
Before the mountains had been shaped,
before the hills, I WAS brought forth;
26:
before he had made the earth with its fields,
or the first of the dust of the world.
27:
When he established the heavens, I WAS there,
when he drew a circle on the face of the deep,
28:
when he made firm the skies above,
when he established the fountains of the deep,
29:
when he assigned to the sea its limit,
so that the waters might not transgress his command,
when he marked out the foundations of the earth,
30:
then I WAS beside him, like a master workman;
and I WAS daily his delight,
rejoicing before him always,
31:
rejoicing in his inhabited world
and delighting in the sons of men.
32:
And now, my sons, listen to ME:
happy are those who keep MY WAYS.
33:
Hear instruction and be wise,
and do not neglect it.
34:
Happy is the man who listens to ME,
watching daily at MY GATES,
waiting beside MY DOORS.
35:
For he who finds ME finds life
and obtains favor from the LORD;
36:
but he who misses ME injures himself;
all who hate ME love death."

Readers should note THREE THINGS:

1. There is NO REAL CONVERSATION GOING ON! Rather, the speech being given is a FIGURATIVE ONE given by THE PERSONIFICATION OF WISDOM. that is being recounted by Solomon ["The proverbs of Solomon, son of David, king of Israel" - Proverbs 1:1] . Nowhere in the text is is claimed that
"wisdom" is a real being - or other than a personification of an abstract principle.

2. Every reference to "I," "MY," ME," "SHE," or "HER" is a reference to WISDOM.
Use of "SHE" and "HER" negates these as references to Jesus - who was a MALE
Being.

3. In contrast, every reference to GOD is to "HE" , "HIM" or "HIS" - NEVER "she" or "her"! See Proverbs 8:22, 26-31 [Therefore - even under Sajita's theory - Wisdom must be a SECOND SUPERNATURAL BEING who is FEMALE - not God - who is
referenced with MALE PRONOUNS!]

In Proverbs 8 we actually see how the origins of the "Trinity" myth: Jewish hadithists
falsely interpreted thsi FIGURATIVE speech by "Wisdom" as a LITERAL one, and
claimed that "Wisdom" or "the Word" or "The Torah" was a "co-creator" of the Universe!

Among Jewish hadith literature, an elaborate mythology exists about God taking a finite form or "first emanation" as "Adam Kadmon". Adam Kadmon was supposedly Gob’s "blueprint" for creation. These Jewish hadithists also claim that the Torah ("the Word") was involved in creation - Indeed, was consulted by God in connection with creation! http://www.ihms.net/kabbalah/image_of_yhvh.htm

Thus we have a "Trinity" of God, The Word, and Adam Kadmon!

The promoters of Christianity took these Jewish ahadith and ran with them !

A writer on the Qabala [who believes Jesus was Adam Kadmon] correctly noted:

"John & Paul were very kabbalistic in their definition of Yeshua [Jesus]. When you read what they say, it is obvious they were only reiterating the same concepts, almost word for word, that we have just seen in the Kabbalah."

http://www.ihms.net/kabbalah/image_of_yhvh.htm

So, correctly viewed, modern "Christianity" is a structure built on Jewish sayings that the Jews themselves no longer follow!

Sincerely, Abdul Haleem

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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

200 years no gospels | 24 other thrones besides Jesus'  | Jesus' problematic hyperboles: made sinful lawful and lawful sinful | Jesus was created | What's new | A-Z library (3300+ articles) | "Muslims" was the original title | Quran Search | Quran Moral Code (100s of them) | Quran: Bibles are filled with corrupt  قول  qaowl (doctrines of sayings and writings)  | "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah | Jesus said he was powerless |  Paul said he wasn't sure about Holy Spirit | Disciples called each other liars, satanic, false | Paul commanded women to not expose  sex predators | Research & Blog | 9/11 Israel-lie | Youtube