Mary:  Fornicate with you "in my mother's bed" [1].  Are virgin Mary's mother and bed also members of the barfinity ?


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The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

• “Say: ‘O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.’ If then they turn back, say ye: ‘Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).’” S. 3:64  
  
  
• “The Jews call ظzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah's curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! They take their priests and their anchorites to be their lords beside Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).” S. 9:30-31  
  
  
• “Nor did the People of the Book make schisms, until after there came to them Clear Evidence. And they have been commanded no more than this: to worship Allah, offering Him sincere devotion, being true (in faith); to establish regular prayer; and to give Zakat; and that is the Religion Right and Straight.” S. 98:4-5 
  

In fact, associating partners with Allah is to commit the unforgivable sin: 

• “Allah forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with Allah is to devise a sin most heinous indeed.” S. 4:48 
  
• “Allah forgiveth not (the sin of) joining other gods with Him; but He forgiveth whom He pleaseth other sins than this: one who joins other gods with Allah, hath strayed far, far away (from the right).”S. 4:116 
  

Yet there are several instances in the Quran where men and angels are addressed as Lord and receive worship:

The critic (Sam Shamoun) commits the fallacy of "conclusion-before-proving"!

• “There did Zakariya PRAY TO HIS LORD: ‘O MY LORD! Grant unto me from Thee a progeny that is pure: for Thou art He that heareth prayer!’ While he was standing in prayer in the chamber, THE ANGELS CALLED UNTO HIM: ‘Allah doth give thee glad tidings of Yahya, (John) witnessing the truth of a Word from Allah, and (be besides) noble, chaste, and a prophet,- of the (goodly) company of the righteous.’ HE SAID: ‘O MY LORD! How shall I have a son, seeing I am very old, and my wife is barren?’ ‘Thus,’ was the answer, ‘Doth Allah accomplish what He willeth.’ HE SAID: ‘O MY LORD! Give me a Sign!’ ‘Thy Sign,’ was the answer, ‘Shall be that thou shalt speak to no man for three days but with signals. Then celebrate the praises of thy Lord again and again, and glorify Him in the evening and in the morning.’ S. 3:38-41 
  

Zechariah is said to have prayed to his Lord for a child, with the angels responding to his request. Yet when asking a question Zechariah addresses the speaker(s) as his Lord!

The critic has falsified the text of the above verses by claiming that Zachariah addressed "the spreaker(s)" as his Lord! As the critic himself usually refers to the Greek texts of his NT to ensure what the supposedly "original" manuscripts say in a certain verse, we shall also refer to the Arabic Origianl Quranic verses and see what they say. Below are the Arabic verses 3:38-41; although we do not need to go to the Arabic text since the above English translation does give the clear picture, but we want to prove that the critic's comments are strawman!

3:38 هنالك دعا زكريا ربه قال رب هب لي من لدنك ذرية طيبة إنك سميع الدعاء

3:39 فنادته الملائكة وهو قائم يصلي في المحراب أن الله يبشرك بيحيى مصدقا بكلمة من الله وسيدا وحصورا ونبيا من الصالحين

3:40 قال رب أنى يكون لي غلام وقد بلغني الكبر وامرأتي عاقر قال كذلك الله يفعل ما يشاء

3:41 قال رب اجعل لي آية قال آيتك ألا تكلم الناس ثلاثة أيام إلا رمزا واذكر ربك كثيرا وسبح بالعشي والإبكار

From both the Arabic and the English (translations) we see that the following sequence of events took place:

1. Zachariah prayed to The Lord (God) to grant him offspring;

2. The angels called on Zachariah while he was praying conveying to him the response (to his prayers) from God in the form of glad tidings of a son;

3. Zachariah then addresses his Lord (God) in astonishment of the news enquiring how can he (an old man) and his barren wife have a son;

4. One of the angels answers Zachariah stating that Allah (God) does what He pleases;

5. Zachariah then asks His Lord (God) to give him a sign;

6. The angel conveyed God's response back to Zachariah by telling him that God's sign will be for Zachariah not to speak to anyone for three days except in sign language and to remember and praise Him a lot day and night.

To understand the above verses properly, one needs to know the Quranic concept of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). God tells us in the quran that no man has seen God nor spoken to Him without a veil (just hearing God's voice without seeing Him) as evident in the following verse:

42:51 It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a Messenger to reveal, with Allah's permission, what Allah wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise.

In view of the above verse, and by knowing that God's prophets/messengers ask only God for their guidance or needs, it becomes very obvious that Zachariah was addressing God directly through prayers/supplications and the responses were conveyed back to him via the angel(s). The critic is unable to see this simple fact not due to his ignorance of the Arabic language, because the English translation is pretty clear, but due to his insincerity and agenda-driven tactics against Isalm.

Continuing further in the same chapter, we are told that a group of angels announced Jesus’ birth to Mary:

• “Behold! THE ANGELS SAID: ‘O Mary! Allah hath chosen thee and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations. O Mary! worship thy Lord devoutly: Prostrate thyself, and bow down (in prayer) with those who bow down.’ This is part of the tidings of the things unseen, which We reveal unto thee (O Messenger.) by inspiration: Thou wast not with them when they cast lots with pens (or arrows), as to which of them should be charged with the care of Mary: Nor wast thou with them when they disputed (the point). Behold! THE ANGELS SAID: ‘O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.’ She said: ‘O MY LORD! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?’ HE SAID: ‘Even so; Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, “Be,” and it is!’” S. 3:42-47 
  

This passage claims that a group of angels addressed Mary, with one specific angel (i.e., “He said”) responding to her question. In the parallel passage regarding Jesus’ birth annunciation, the One addressing Mary is said to be the Spirit of God: 

The critic commits a deliberate lie in his above statement when he claims that "..the One addressing Mary is said to be the Spirit of God" when referring to verse 19:16 below! The Arabic verse reads "fa arsalan ilayha rohana fa tamathala laha basharan sawiyya" and this is further illustrated by the English translation below where it says "We sent her our spirit" not "we sent her the spirit of God" or "we sent her God's spirit"! There is a big difference between what the critic tried to imply and what the verse said! The Arabic word "rouh/ruh/rooh" (spelled ra'a, waw, 7ha'a) روح is like the hebrew word "ruwach" with many meanings. Amongst its meanings are:

a- The spirit that is given to all living things at birth and that is taken back by The Creator at death; this is evident from verses like:

15:29 "When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit (min rouh-i), fall ye down in obeisance unto him."

b- The archangel Gabriel who is entrusted by God to deliver God's revelations to God's prophets/messengers;

26:193 With it came down the Spirit of Faith and Truth,

40:15 Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne (of authority): by His Command doth He send the spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants He pleases, that it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,

78:38 The Day that the Spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (Allah) Most Gracious, and he will say what is right.

97:4 Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by Allah's permission, on every errand:

16:102 Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

c- The mercy of God as evident from:

12:87 "O my sons! go ye and enquire about Joseph and his brother, and never give up hope of Allah's soothing Mercy (rawh-i Allah): truly no one despairs of Allah's soothing Mercy (rawh-i Allah), except those who have no faith."

From the above, we see the different usages of the Arabic word "rouh"; therefore the usage of "rouh-ana" in verse 19:16 does mean the angel Gabriel and not the trinitarians' concept of the three-in-one God! The critic only needs to check the above verses supporting the various meanings of the word "rouh" from within the quran.

• “Relate in the Book (the story of) Mary, when she withdrew from her family to a place in the East. She placed a screen (to screen herself) from them; then We sent her Our Spirit (Ruh), and he appeared before her as a man in all respects. She said: ‘I seek refuge from thee to (Allah) Most Gracious: (come not near) if thou dost fear Allah.’ HE SAID: ‘Nay, I AM ONLY A MESSENGER FROM THY LORD, (to announce) to thee the gift of a pure son. She said: ‘How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?’ HE SAID: ‘So (it will be): THY LORD SAITH, “That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us”. It is a matter (so) decreed.’” S. 19:16-21  
  

Muslims claim that this Spirit was angel Gabriel. If this is true this implies that both Zechariah and Mary committed the sin of associating partners with God since they dared to address an angel as their Lord! In fact, the phrase Our Spirit is used elsewhere in reference to One having divine qualities: 

Once again, the critic commits the same fallacy of not reading the verses properly! Verses 3:42-47 are explained in the same manner as 3:38-41 and there is no difficulty in them whatsoever. The angels conveyed to Mary the good news from God and she, being a virgin who has known no man, is astonished and surprised thus questions, as any normal person would do, how this can happen to her. She shows her astonishement (not doubt as the critic would have us believe later on!) by asking the question to the source of the glad tidings, God her Lord. Once again, the critic's apparent influence by the mix-ups between The Lord and the angel of The Lord in his OT has driven him to make such silly accusations against the quran. He has to be excused for he knows not the styles of the Arabic Quran!

The critic then goes on to make further false claims when he claims "In fact, the phrase Our Spirit is used elsewhere in reference to One having divine qualities"!! Nothing is farther from the truth!! Let us see his poor examples, which should serve to EXPOSE him further:

• “Behold! thy Lord said to the angels: ‘I am about to create man, from sounding clay from mud molded into shape; When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.’” S. 15:28-29  
  
• “He Who created all things in the best, and He began the creation of man from clay, And made his progeny from a quintessence of despised fluid: But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him of His spirit. And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and understanding: little thanks do ye give!” S. 32:7-9  
  
• “Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: ‘I am about to create man from clay: When I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.’” S. 38:71-72 
  

These passages indicate that after fashioning man God presumably gave him life by breathing his Spirit into him, echoing Genesis 2:7. This implies that at least in these contexts the Spirit is God’s life-giving Agent. This being the case, how can the Spirit be Gabriel without this implying that God used a finite creature to assist him in the creation of man?  

The critic is obviously a "poor" scholar when it comes to the Quran and the Arabic language! He thinks that the use of phrases like "of His spirit" or "of My spirit" imply 'divine qualities'! Did he get this inclination due to "fall ye down in obeisance unto him" or did he just make up such a silly conclusion?! The use of the term "of My (God's) spirit" signifies GOD's OWNERSHIP OF ALL SPIRITS OF LIFE THAT ARE GIVEN TO HIS CREATURES, it does not signify any divine qualities whatsoever! The command by God to the angels to fall down before Adam does not signify an order of "worship" as the critic tends to hint at some later stage; it signifies the importance of Adam's (and of his seed's) status and the load they will carry on earth, something the angels are not entrusted with since they were created to serve God only and have no will of their own as man was given by God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The critic also falsifies things one more time by claiming that "God presumably gave him life by breathing his Spirit into him"!! Something not in the verses since the verses and the bolded text (by the critic) says something else! They say "of His spirit" not "His spirit"! The difference is big!

Continuing further, we are told elsewhere that Mary conceived Jesus by God’s Spirit: 

• “And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.” 21:91 
  
• “And Mary the daughter of جmrلn, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into it of Our spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).” S. 66:12 
  

According to certain Muslim commentators, the Spirit that was used to breathe into Mary was actually the angel Gabriel. Mahmoud M. Ayub mentions several Muslim commentaries regarding the preceding passages: 

• “… Ibn Kathir interprets the phrase 'guarded well her generative organ' to mean: ‘safeguarded and protected it. Guarding well ihsan signifies chastity and high birth.’ He comments on the phrase, ‘and thus We breathed into it of our spirit’ thus ‘that is, through the angel Gabriel. This is because God sent HIM TO HER, AND HE TOOK FOR HER THE FORM OF A MAN OF GOOD STATURE (S. 19:17). God commanded HIM to breathe into the breast of her chemise. HIS BREATH WENT DOWN AND PENETRATED HER GENERATIVE ORGAN, AND THUS CAUSED HER TO CONCEIVE JESUS…” (Christian-Muslim Encounters, ed. Yvonne Yazbeck Haddad & Wadi Z. Haddad [University Press of Florida, 1995], p. 67 bold and capital emphasis ours)

And:  

• “Abu Ja'far al-Tusi, the jurist doctor of the Shi'i community, as well as his well known disciple al-Tabarsi, read the words, ‘We breathed INTO IT’ literally. Al-Tusi says: ‘It has been held THAT GABRIEL BREATHED INTO MARY'S GENERATIVE ORGAN then God created Christ in it’…” (Ibid., p. 68 bold and capital emphasis ours)  
  

Here is Ibn Kathir's commentary on S. 66:12, noting that Jibril is the Arabic pronunciation of Gabriel:  

• <And Maryam, the daughter of 'Imran who guarded her chastity (PRIVATE PART).> meaning who protected and purified her honor, by being chaste and free of immorality,

• <And We breathed INTO IT (PRIVATE PART) through Our Ruh,> meaning, THROUGH THE ANGEL JIBRIL. Allah sent the angel Jibril to Maryam, and he came to her in the shape of a man in every respect. Allah commanded HIM TO BLOW INTO A GAP OF HER GARMENT and that BREATH into her womb through her private part; THIS IS HOW ‘ISA WAS CONCEIVED. This is why Allah said here,

• <And We breathed INTO IT through Our Ruh, and she testified to the truth of her Lords Kalimat, and His Kutub,> meaning His decree and His legislation. (Tafsir Ibn Kathir - Abridged, Volume 10, Surat At-Tagabun to the end of the Qur'an, abridged by a group of scholars under the supervision of Shaykh Safiur Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri [Darussalam Publishers & Distributors, Riyadh, Houston, New York, London, Lahore; September 2000], pp. 75-76; bold and capital emphasis ours)  
  
  

Finally, al-Tabari’s comments on Mary’s conception: 

• “… She entered the cave, and found Gabriel there-God made him appear to her as shapely human-and he said to her, ‘O Mary, God has sent me to you to give you a boy most pure.’ At this she exclaimed, ‘I take refuge in the All Merciful from you, if you fear God!’ (She had thought that he was a man, a mortal.) But he said, ‘I am but a messenger come from your Lord.’ She then said, ‘How shall I, whom no mortal has touched, have a son; neither have I been unchaste?’ He replied, ‘Even so. The Lord has said, “Easy is that for Me, and We may appoint him a sign unto men and a mercy from Us; it is a thing decreed.”’ 
  

• That is, God has decreed that it is so. When the angel spoke thus, she submitted to the divine decree, and he breathed into HER BOSOM. Then he left her, and she filled her pitcher. 
  

• According to Muhammad b. Sahl b. ‘Askar al-Bukhari- Isma’il b. ‘Abd al-Karim- ‘Abd al-Samad b. Ma’qil, the son of the brother of Wahb- Wahb: When God sent Gabriel to Mary, he appeared to her as a shapely man. She then said, ‘I take refuge in the All Merciful from you, if you fear God!’ Then he breathed into the opening of her garment, THE BREATH REACHED HER WOMB, and she conceived Jesus…” (The History of al-Tabari, Volume IV, The Ancient Kingdoms, trans. Moshe Perlmann [State University of New York Press, Albany, 1987], pp. 112-113 bold and capital emphasis ours) 
  

And: 

• “… ‘Then We sent unto her Our Spirit [that is, the angel Gabriel] that presented himself to her a man without fault’… 
  

• She wore a gown. He held her sleeves and breathed into the opening of her garment which was split in front. The breath entered her breast, and she conceived…” (Ibid., p. 119 bold emphasis ours) 
  

The claim that Gabriel breathed into Mary would logically make Gabriel the speaker in S. 21:91 and 66:12. According to these passages the One speaking states that he will breathe his Spirit into Mary. Nowhere do the passages even hint to someone else being used to impregnate Mary. Seeing that Muslims claim that the Quran is the word of Allah, implying that Allah is the One speaking here, logically makes Gabriel Allah!  

We should remind the readers and the critic that all of the above so-called "Islamic" sources give their own interpretations of the verses, but the final judge is the quran itself; hence what the critic cited is all hot air and a waste of time and is of no relevance to the issue.

What is important and relevant to the issue at hand is the critic's claims above regarding verses 21:91 and 66:12; and if we read them, we will find that there is no mention of Gabriel in them whatsoever! Therefore, the conclusion made by the critic is a strawman one and can be refuted as follows:

1. God sent Gabriel to Mary with glad tidings of a son to be born to her, a virgin;

2. The angel delivered the message to her;

3. God created Jesus with the word "BE" and gave him his (Jesus') spirit;

4. The use of the phrase "min rouh-ina" follows the same explanation given above as an indication of God's ownership of all spirits of life.

There is no difficulty to understand the above from within the quranic verses unless one is agenda-driven, like our friend the critic! All of the sources cited by the critic have ventured into issues that are not in the verses of concern, but yet their interpretations do not make room for the critic's false conclusions! In verses 21:91 and 66:12 Allah is speaking, but these verses speak of how jesus was created and do not go into how the spirit of jesus was given to him; do they, Mr. Shamoun?!

This also means that Gabriel has a Spirit that he uses to create and impart life. This would therefore make Gabriel the Creator, since Muslims claim that Allah was the one who created Jesus by breathing his Spirit into Mary’s womb! Otherwise the text would imply that Allah actually breathed Gabriel into both Mary and Adam since, as Muslims claim, the Spirit of Allah is actually Gabriel. 

The above also means that the critic is deliberately making false, uninformed claims! There is no such thing as what the critic claims in the verses of concern; one only needs to read the verses in context and without any trinitarian biases to realise that they do not say or imply what the critic is driving at! The verses use the term "of His spirit" and not "His spirit", and the difference is obvious since the first indicates the ownership of the spirit of life by The Creator, whereas the second implies a trinitarian thing!

Furthermore, seeing that Muslims do not equate Gabriel with Allah inevitably leads to more than one Creator. Yet the Quran clearly states that there is no other Creator besides Allah: 

No, it does not lead to what you claim! It is your imagination playing tricks on you, Sam! The Creator is Allah, Gabriel is His messenger angel who conveys God's messages and revelations at the command of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). I believe you need to go back to grade school since your comprehension seems to be suffering a lot!

• “It is He Who created you from a single person, and made his mate of like nature, in order that he might dwell with her (in love). When they are united, she bears a light burden and carries it about (unnoticed). When she grows heavy, they both pray to Allah their Lord, (saying): ‘If Thou givest us a goodly child, we vow we shall (ever) be grateful.’ But when He giveth them a goodly child, they ascribe to others a share in the gift they have received: but Allah is exalted high above the partners they ascribe to Him. Do they indeed ascribe to Him as partners things that can create nothing, but are themselves created?” S. 7:189-191  
  

• “Those whom they invoke besides Allah create nothing and are themselves created.” S. 16:20 
  

• “Yet have they taken, besides him, gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection.” S. 25:3 
  

• “O men! Remember the grace of Allah unto you! Is there a Creator, other than Allah, to give you sustenance from heaven or earth? There is no god but He: how then are ye perverted?” S. 35:3 
  

• “He created you (all) from a single person: then created, of like nature, his mate; and He sent down for you eight head of cattle in pairs: He creates you, in the wombs of your mothers, in stages, one after another, in three veils of darkness. Such is Allah, your Lord and Cherisher: to Him belongs (all) dominion. There is no god but He: then how are ye turned away (from your true Lord)?” S. 39:6 
  

Therefore, the only plausible explanation is that the Spirit of Allah is not angel Gabriel. Yet this view would leave us with an irreconcilable contradiction. According to S. 3:42-48 it was a group of angels that appeared to Mary, whereas in S. 19:16-21 it isn’t a group of angels but God’s Spirit that announced the Messiah’s birth. 

In order to avoid attributing a contradiction to the Quran, some Muslims claim that the two passages refer to two different episodes. For example, some Muslims like Shabir Ally claim that S. 3:42-48 refers to the time when Mary was told that she would eventually conceive a child, whereas in S. 19:16-21 the Spirit was sent to inform her that the time of conception had arrived. (source- http://www.quranspeaks.com/three.ram) 

The only problem with this view is that it would imply that Mary disbelieved God’s ability to cause a supernatural birth on two separate occasions. Compare the following: 

• “Behold! The angels said: ‘O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.’ She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?’ He said: ‘Even so; Allah createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, ‘Be,’ and it is!’” S. 3:45-47 
  

And:

• “He said: ‘Nay, I am only a messenger from thy Lord, (to announce) to thee the gift of a pure son. She said: ‘How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?’ He said: ‘So (it will be): thy Lord saith, “That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us”. It is a matter (so) decreed.’” S. 19:19-21  
  

Hence, either Muslims must accuse Mary of twice questioning the ability of Allah in causing a supernatural conception to take place without the aid of a man. This, in spite of the fact that the angels explicitly told her the first time that Allah is able to do all that he wills! Or Muslims must face up to the music and admit that the Quran contains a bonafide contradiction. 

It is obvious that the critic is bankrupt in his attempts against the Quran, he starts to mix apples and oranges in order to divert the attention from one issue to another!! What has Mary's belief or disbelief got to do with "whether we worship one God or not"?! Although i have already addressed the issue of why did both Mary and Zachariah seem to question the glad tidings delivered to them by the angels, i will reiterate it again here:

Both Mary and Zachariah did not doubt God whatsoever, but as normal human beings (the critic does not think they should react as such!!) they are astonished and surprised by the news as any normal human being would be. Even the critic's NT tells us the same thing about Mary's reaction when Gabriel gave her the good news; let us read what Luke had to say about this event:

From MKJV

Luk 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God into a city of Galilee, named Nazareth,

Luk 1:27 to a virgin betrothed to a man whose name was Joseph, of \cf2\i the\cf0\i0 house of David. And the virgin's name Mary.

Luk 1:28 And the angel came in to her and said, Hail, receiving grace, the Lord with you. Blessed you among women.

Luk 1:29 And when she saw, she was troubled at his saying, and considered what kind of greeting this might be.

Luk 1:30 And the angel said to her, Do not fear, Mary, for you have found favor with God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Luk 1:31 And behold! You shall conceive in your womb and bear a son, and you shall call His name JESUS.

Luk 1:32 He shall be great and shall be called the Son of Highest. And the Lord God shall give Him the throne of His father David.

Luk 1:33 And He shall reign over the house of Jacob forever, and of His kingdom there shall be no end.

Luk 1:34 Then Mary said to the angel, How shall this be, since I do not know a man?

Luk 1:35 And the angel answered and said to her, The Holy Spirit shall come on you, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow you. Therefore also that Holy One which will be born of you shall be called Son of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Luk 1:36 And behold, your cousin Elizabeth also conceived a son in her old age. And this is the sixth month with her who i was called barren.

Luk 1:37 For with God nothing shall be impossible.

We shall not go into the funny things in the above NT verses like how many fathers does Jesus have and what happened to his reign over the house of Jacob forever or the overshadowing and coming upon bits! We shall stick to Mary's human response in verse 1:34. I wonder if the critic considers this as "doubting God" on Mary's part when it is mentioned in his NT?! If not, WHY NOT?! Or does he employ two standards -one for Muslims and one for christians?!

Returning to our original point regarding the problem of addressing others besides Allah as Lord, here is Mahmoud M. Ayoub’s commentary on S. 3:40. In light of what Ayoub will shortly say one readily sees the difficulty Muslims faced in trying to deal with the fact that others besides Allah are addressed as Lord: 

• “Two issues have concerned commentators in this verse. The first is the question of whether it is God or Gabriel whom Zechariah addresses as Lord. The second is how Zechariah, as a prophet, could have any doubt in God’s power to cause an old, barren woman to bear a child?… 
  

• Ibn Kathir does not raise the question of Zechariah’s doubt. He rather interprets Zechariah’s query as expressing his wonderment at God’s power. He writes, ‘When Zechariah became certain of the happy news, he began to marvel at the possibility of his having a child in such advanced age.’ Ibn Kathir assumes that Zechariah’s dialogue was with an angel, not with God… 
  

• Qurtubi begins by relating on the authority of al-Kalbi that the word ‘Lord’ in this verse refers to Gabriel. He says, ‘Zechariah said to Gabriel “my lord,”’ meaning ‘my master’… 
  

Razi begins with the question of Zechariah’s dialogue and whether it was with God or with Gabriel. The question is important because it concerns the theological debate about God’s transcendence and the problem of anthropomorphism. If God hears and speaks in a manner familiar to human beings, then the question arises as to whether God has similar organs of hearing and speech. Razi argues that it is equally possible that Zechariah was addressing either God or the angel in this verse. He presents two explanations which he attributes to the mufassirun, that is, other commentators. The first is: ‘When the angels called to Zechariah and gave him the good news, he wondered and turned to God for reassurance. Zechariah was actually addressing the angel Gabriel, and not God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The invocation ‘my lord’ is here addressed to a superior or master and not to God.” (Ayoub, The Qur’an and Its Interpreters, Volume II, The House of ‘Imran [State University of New York Press, Albany 1992], pp. 112, 113 bold emphasis ours) 

The problem with asserting that the prophet is actually addressing Allah is that instead of Allah responding, it is either the angel(s) or the Spirit that answers. When responding to the questions, both the angel(s) and the Spirit clearly make a distinction between their words from the words of Allah:  

• “Behold! THE ANGELS SAID: ‘O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honor in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest TO ALLAH. He shall speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. And he shall be (of the company) of the righteous.’ She said: ‘O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?’ HE SAID: ‘Even so; ALLAH createth what HE willeth: When HE hath decreed a plan, HE but saith to it, “Be,” and it is! And ALLAH will teach him the Book and Wisdom, the Torah and the Gospel,’” S. 3:45-48  
  

• “She said: ‘How shall I have a son, seeing that no man has touched me, and I am not unchaste?’ HE SAID: ‘So (it will be): THY LORD SAITH, “That is easy for Me: and (We wish) to appoint him as a Sign unto men and a Mercy from Us”. It is a matter (so) decreed.’” S. 19:20-21 
  

Furthermore, the assertion that Gabriel is called Lord in the sense of being ones master or superior does not solve the problem for the Muslim. Neither the Quran nor the Hadiths allow for even this type of respect to be given to anyone besides Allah: 

The critic has gone into very lengthy quotes and re-quotes in order to make his arguement sound convincing, however, he should refer to my responses above and see that there is no doubt that both Zachariah and Mary addressed God as their Lord, they did not address the angels as such. The narrations and interpretations given by some muslim scholars are not an indication of a difficulty in the verses of concern, they are either answers to raised questions by critics of their times or attempts to clarify what they thought to be a difficulty. Anyone who claims that Mary or Zachariah addressed the angel as "rabb" (Lord) is wrong because the verses are clear in portraying God's servants (Mary & Zachariah) as praying/supplicating to God and not to His angels, hence any addressing with the term "Lord" is directed to God in prayer, supplication or wonderment.

They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks and the Messiah son of Mary, when they were bidden to worship only One Allah. There is no Allah save Him. Be He Glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)! S. 9:31 Pickthall 

The only sense in which Jews and Christians would ever consider rabbis or monks as Lords would be in the sense of a superior or a master. They would have never viewed them as Lords in the same way they viewed God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  

This is supported by the following Muslim tradition. Ibn Kathir quotes the following hadith regarding the meaning of S. 9:31: 

• <They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah, and the Messiah, son of Maryam> [9:31].

• Imam Ahmad, At-Tirmidhi and Ibn Jarir At-Tabari recorded a Hadith via several chains of narration, from ‘Adi bin Hatim, may Allah be pleased with him, who became a Christian during the time of Jahiliyyah. When the call of the Messenger of Allah reached his area, ‘Adi ran away to Ash-Sham, and his sister and several of his people were captured. The Messenger of Allah freed his sister and gave her gifts. So she went to her brother and encouraged him to become Muslim and to go to the Messenger of Allah. ‘Adi, who was one of the chiefs of his people (the tribe of Tai’) and whose father, Hatim At-Ta’I, was known for his generosity, went to Al-Madinah. When the people announced his arrival, ‘Adi went to the Messenger of Allah wearing a silver cross around his neck. The Messenger of Allah recited this Ayah;  
  

• <They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah>.

• ‘Adi commented, I said, “They did not worship them.”’ The Prophet said, 
  

• ((Yes they did. They (rabbis and monks) prohibited the allowed for them (Christians and Jews) and allowed the prohibited, and they obeyed them. This is how they worshiped them.))… 
  

• <They took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah…>

• that the Christians and Jews obeyed their monks and rabbis in whatever they allowed or prohibited for them…” (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged, Volume 4, Surat Al-A’raf to the end of Surah Yunus, May 2000, pp. 409-410 bold emphasis ours) 
  

Therefore, to even address either the angel(s) or the Spirit as ones superior or master is unacceptable within the Monotheism (Tauhid) taught by Muhammad and his Companions. In fact, addressing anyone besides Allah as ones Lord in prayer is a violation of the three aspects of Islamic Monotheism: Tauhid-al-Rububiyyah, Tauhid-al-Uluhiyyah and Tauhid-al-Asma’ was-Sifat.  

Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali and Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan define the meaning behind each of the three aspects:: 

• (A) Oneness of the Lordship of Allah; Tauhid-al-Rububiyyah: To believe there is only one Lord for all the universe, Who is the Creator, Organizer, Planner, Sustainer, and the Giver of security, etc., and that is Allah.  
  

• (B) Oneness of the worship of Allah; Tauhid-Uluhiyyah: To believe that none has the right to be worshiped (e.g., praying, invoking, asking for help from the unseen, swearing, offering sacrifice, giving charity, fasting, pilgrimage) but Allah. 
  

• (C) Oneness of the Names and Qualities of Allah: Tauhid Al-Asma’ was-Sifat: To believe that: 
  

• • 1. We must not name or qualify Allah with what He or His messenger… has named or qualified Him;
    2. None can be named or qualified with the Names and Qualifications of Allah; e.g. Al-Karim…

• (Translation of the Meanings of The Noble Qur’an, In the English Language A Summarized Version of At-Tabari, Al-Qurtubi and Ibn Kathir with comments from Sahih Al-Bukhari, by Dr. Muhammad Taqi-ud-Din Al-Hilali, Ph.D. & Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan [King Fahd Complex For The Printing Of The Holy Qur’an, Madinah K.S.A.], Appendix II, p. 892 bold emphasis ours) 
  

Seeing that both Zechariah and Mary addressed someone other than Allah as Lord when asking about the possibility of having a child implies that both parties violated Muhammad’s conception of Tauhid. 

No, Mr. critic man, we are not seeing what you claim! Go back to the top and see that Mary and Zachariah were not addressing the angels with "My Lord"! All of your above quotes are appreciated but are of no relevance since your build your case on strawman!

Another passage in which Gabriel is actually given divine status includes: 

• By the Star when it goes down,- Your Companion is neither astray nor being misled. Nor does he say (aught) of (his own) Desire. It is no less than inspiration sent down to him: He was taught by one Mighty in Power, Endued with Wisdom: FOR HE APPEARED (in stately form); While he was in the highest part of the horizon: THEN HE APPROACHED HIM AND CAME CLOSER, And was at a distance of but two bow-lengths or (even) nearer; SO DID HE CONVEY THE INSPIRATION TO HIS SERVANT- (conveyed) what He (meant) to convey. S. 53:1-10  
  

This passage clearly states that Muhammad saw someone whom Muslims claim was the Angel Gabriel. Abdullah Yusuf Ali on S. 53:5 notes: 

• “… This is referred by the Commentators to the angel Gabriel, though whom the inspiration came…” (Ali, The Holy Qur’an, Translation and Commentary, p. 1443, f. 5087 bold emphasis ours) 
  

Ibn Kathir states:  

• The Trustworthy Angel brought Allah’s Revelation to the Trustworthy Messenger

• Allah the Exalted states that the Message His servant and Messenger Muhammad brought to his people was taught to him by,

• <mighty in power>, he is Jibril, peace be upon, (Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Abridged, Volume 9, Surat Al-Jathiyah to the end of Surat Al-Munafiqun, September 2000, p. 308)  
  

Yet this interpretation will not work without this making Gabriel the god of Muhammad. The passage clearly states that the person that appeared to Muhammad was Muhammad’s sovereign as indicated by the last part of the sentence, “SO DID HE CONVEY THE INSPIRATION TO HIS SERVANT.” Seeing that Muslims insist that the being that appeared to Muhammad was Gabriel implies that Muhammad is a slave of Gabriel. There is simply no way of avoiding this inescapable conclusion. Therefore, Muslims must now accept the fact that it was actually Allah who appeared to Muhammad, which would then force them to accept the idea of Allah appearing visibly. If Muslims still insist that it was Gabriel who appeared then they must also accept that Gabriel and/or Muhammad committed the sin of associating partners with Allah. 

The problem that this passage presents becomes evident from Ibn Kathir’s comments:  

• <And was at a distance of two bow lengths or less. So (Allah) revealed to His servant whatever He revealed. >

• Zirr said, ‘Abdullah narrated to us that Muhammad saw Jibril having six hundred wings.’ 
  

• <SO HE REVEALED TO HIS SERVANT WHATEVER HE REVEALED.>

• means, Jibril conveyed to Allah’s servant Muhammad whatever he conveyed. OR, the meaning here could be: Allah revealed to His servant Muhammad whatever He revealed through Jibril. Both meanings are correct…” (Ibid., pp. 311-312 bold and capital emphasis ours) 
  

The reader will notice that the word Allah is inserted in parentheses to presumably avoid the ambiguity of the text. This is despite the fact that the word does not appear in the Arabic original, as indicated by its second occurrence within Kathir’s citation! It becomes obvious why this would be done, namely to avoid the implication that Muhammad is Gabriel’s servant or that Allah appeared in visible form. The Muslims must safeguard from either interpretation if they are to maintain their belief in the absolute transcendence of Allah and/or the pure devotion that is to be given to him alone. Islamicist F.E. Peters notes:  

• “None of the pronouns is identified in these verses, though there is little doubt that the recipient of the vision was Muhammad. Who was seen is less clear, and if Muhammad’s being referred to as his ‘servant’ in verse 10 suggests that is God Himself, the Muslim tradition preferred to understand that it was Gabriel in all the other instances, chiefly because later in his own career Muhammad, as we shall see, had unmistakably come to the same conclusion. But there is no other mention of Gabriel in the Meccan suras, and it appears far more likely that God Himself first appeared to Muhammad ‘on the high horizon’ and then on a second occasion by the lotus tree near the ‘garden of the dwelling’ to show him ‘the signs of his Lord.’ Muhammad was clearly earthbound when he had his first experience, but where the latter vision took place, whether in a known locality in Mecca or, as is often thought, in some heavenly venue, is not further indicated. Neither is there anything to suggest that it was on either of these occasions that Muhammad received the words of the Quran.

• “If Sura 53:1-18 seems to say that Muhammad believed that on two distinct occasions he had a vision of God, who thereby prompted him and showed to him His signs, the second vision is referred to only in briefing in passing. (Quran 81:19-27)

• “Although verse 10 appears to refer back to the same vision ‘on the high horizon’ mentioned in 53:7-9, the Muslim commentators saw in the first three verses of this passage from Sura 81 an unmistakable reference to Gabriel. But there is abundant evidence that Muhammad not only did not identify Gabriel as the agent of revelation until his Medina days, but that while at Mecca he was criticized for the fact that God had not sent an angelic messenger: ‘They said: “If your Lord had so pleased, He would certainly have sent down angels; as it is, we disbelieve your mission”.’ (Quran 41:14)

• “Muhammad’s earliest response did not encourage them to think that there was in fact an angel in God’s revelation to him:

• They say: ‘You to whom the Reminder is being sent down, truly you are jinn-possessed! Why do you not bring angels to us if you are one of those who posses truth? We do not send down the angels except when required, and if they came, there would be not respite.’ (Ibid., 15:6-8)

• ‘And before you as well the Messengers we sent down were but men, to whom We granted inspiration. And if you do not understand that, ask the people who possess the Reminder.’ (Ibid., 16:43)” (Peters, Muhammad and the Origins of Islam [State of University Press New York, Albany 1994], pp. 142-143 bold emphasis ours)  
  

All of the above quotes and assumptions are flung back at the critic due to the simple facts found within the verses 53:1-10. We will deal with the seemingly difficult issue of who is meant in verse 53:10. This verse refers to God and God alone as He Is The source of scriptures and He conveys His revelations to His prophets through His angels. Revelation is God's and the mean is the angel Gabriel. The use of the word "abdihi" (His servant) is an indication of a master/servant realtionship and prophets (as all humans) are servants of God, not of angels.

The use of the phrase "shadeed al-quwa" (with mighty powers) in verse 53:5 is a reference to Gabriel and this does not make him divine or God because he is a mighty angel of God entrusted with a mighty mission of revelation. The rest of the verses dealing with distances and coming near or being seen are references to the angel Gabriel, we must remember that the quran states very clearly that no man has seen God, therefore, those are references to the angel and not to God.

As for the claims that the prophet did not identify Gabriel as the agent of revelation until his Madina days, this has to be the funniest claim so far!! The critic does make some fallacies by saying the above since the quran is not the work of Muahmmad (pbuh) regardless of what the critic thinks! And as we have shown in this response that the angel Gabriel is referred to as "the spirit" in the quran, it will suffice to present some examples of Meccan verses with a reference to the agent of revelation being Gabriel and thus EXPOSING the critic and his sources!

16:2 He doth send down His angels with inspiration (bil-rouh-i) of His Command, to such of His servants as He pleaseth, (saying) "Warn (Man) that there is no god but I: so do your duty unto Me."

26:193 With it came down the Spirit of Faith and Truth,

40:15 Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne (of authority): by His Command doth He send the spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants He pleases, that it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,

70:4 The angels and the Spirit ascend unto Him in a Day the measure whereof is (as) fifty thousand years:

78:38 The Day that the Spirit and the angels will stand forth in ranks, none shall speak except any who is permitted by (Allah) Most Gracious, and he will say what is right.

97:4 Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by Allah's permission, on every errand:

One example of Meccan verses would have sufficed to REFUTE the claims presented by the critic, but I like to stifle liars and their sources with more evidence to the contrary of that they falsely claim. The above 6 verses are all from Meccan surahs of the Quran and they all mention the agent of revelation "al-rouh", which can only stand for Gabriel the angel! But one may ask how do we make such a claim when the name Gabriel is not mentioned in any of the above verses?! We respond with the following Medina verse:

2:97 Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by Allah's will, a confirmation of what went before, And guidance and glad tidings for those who believe.

and

66:4 If ye two turn in repentance to Him, your hearts are indeed so inclined; but if ye back up each other against him, truly Allah is his Protector, and Gabriel, and (every) righteous one among those who believe,and furthermore, the angels will back (him) up.

Now a first grader can make the connection between Gabriel in 2:97 and "the spirit" in the Meccan verses.

Hence, no matter from what angle Muslims look at this passage they are posed with problems either way.

No, we are not posed with any problems! It is you who is posed with imple problems, "lack of intelligence" and "agenda-driven logic"!

On the Worship of Others Besides Allah 

Both the Quran and Muslims sources furnish examples of others besides Allah receiving worship. The first example is Adam: 

• “And when We said unto the angels: Prostrate yourselves before Adam, they fell prostrate, all save Iblis. He demurred through pride, and so became a disbeliever.” S. 2:34  
  
• “And We created you, then fashioned you, then told the angels: Fall ye prostrate before Adam! And they fell prostrate, all save Iblis, who was not of those who make prostration. He said: What hindered thee that thou didst not fall prostrate when I bade thee? (Iblis) said: I am better than him. Thou createdst me of fire while him Thou didst create of mud. He said: Then go down hence! It is not for thee to show pride here, so go forth! Lo! thou art of those degraded.” S. 7:11-13  
  
• “And (remember) when thy Lord said unto the angels: Lo! I am creating a mortal out of potter's clay of black mud altered, So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him. So the angels fell prostrate, all of them together Save Iblis. He refused to be among the prostrate. He said: O Iblis! What aileth thee that thou art not among the prostrate? He said: I am not one to prostrate myself unto a mortal whom Thou hast created out of potter's clay of black mud altered!” S. 15:28-33  
  
• “And when We said unto the angels: Fall down prostrate before Adam and they fell prostrate all save Iblis, he said: Shall I fall prostrate before that which Thou hast created of clay?” S. 17:61  
  
• “And when We said unto the angels: Fall prostrate before Adam, they fell prostrate (all) save Iblis; he refused.” S. 20:116  
  

All these verses state that it was Allah who commanded the angels to prostrate before Adam. The word signifying prostration is only used in relation to a believer prostrating before God in adoration and worship. Abdiyah Akbar Abdul Haqq comments on S. 7:12:  

• “The story, as a whole, involves a difficult issue. Why did God order all His angels to fall prostrate before a being inferior to them in nature? The manner of prostration is reserved for the worship of God. It was not proper, therefore, to employ it in showing respect to creatures, including Adam. Realizing the problem involved in the use of the term ‘Sajda’ (prostration) in the passage under discussion, Jalal al-Din made the following observation:  
  

• • The original word signifies properly, to prostrate one self till the forehead touches the ground, which is the humblest posture of adoration and strictly due to God only; but it is sometimes used to express civil worship or homage which may be paid to creatures. (W.T. Wherry, A Comprehensive Commentary on the Quran, Vol. I, p. 301) 
    

• “Despite Jalal al-Din's apology, strictly speaking, ‘Sajda’ (prostration) is due only to God. That is why the commentator did not support adequately the exception he has made to the rule, from the Koran. The ‘Wahhabis,’ who consider themselves strict Muslims and true Monotheists, forbid worship of any creature. God alone deserves to be worshipped, according to them. They would not allow ‘Sajda’ to a civil authority- the kind of prostration which is meant to be used in prayers to God… Moreover, it is true that strictly speaking prostration before any being other than God is a practice against monotheism and spirit of the Koran, as Wahhabis would say.” (Haqq, Sharing Your Faith with a Muslim [Bethany House Publishers, Minneapolis, MN 1980], p. 78 bold emphasis ours)  
  

Not only does the critic show his lack of intelligence and poor judgement, but he does not emply his faculties to search for an answer! The order from God to the angels to fall down for Adam is not a command by God to the angels "to worship Adam". It is much more than that, and the critic did not seek the wisdom behind such a command! Had the critic concentrated on the last parts of the above verses, the parts dealing with Iblees' refusal to fall down for Adam, he would have known the significance of the command! But, the critic thinks and believes that the quran is like his bibles, where God (forbid) has no plans but is surprised by actions and results of His creation!! The Qruan is the word of God, and unlike the altered bibles of the critic; the quran shows us that God had planned everything and knows everything. The command to the angels and Iblees (satan) to fall down in prostration to Adam was for a cause and the cause was not the worship of Adam, but a lesson to Adam about who is his enemy in his life and the life of his seed after him. The critic is so narrow minded, he does not think beyond the tip of his nose! But, before i proceed with the rest of his silly article, i would like to see what does everyone make of the following acts of prostration from the critic's own bibles?!

From BBE

Gen 33:1 Then Jacob, lifting up his eyes, saw Esau coming with his four hundred men. So he made a division of the children between Leah and Rachel and the two women-servants.

Gen 33:2 He put the servants and their children in front, Leah and her children after them, and Rachel and Joseph at the back.

Gen 33:3 And he himself, going before them, went down on his face to the earth seven times till he came near his brother.

Gen 33:4 Then Esau came running up to him, and folding him in his arms, gave him a kiss: and the two of them were overcome with weeping.

Gen 33:5 Then Esau, lifting up his eyes, saw the women and the children, and said, Who are these with you? And he said, The children whom God in his mercy has given to your servant.

Gen 33:6 Then the servants and their children came near, and went down on their faces.

Gen 33:7 And Leah came near with her children, and then Joseph and Rachel, and they did the same.

I wonder if the critic thinks that Jacob and his family was worshipping Esau in the above verses?!! Jacob did it SEVEN TIMES, not once!!

In fact, not only do we find Adam receiving sajda but Joseph as well: 

• “Then when they entered the presence of Joseph, he provided a home for his parents with himself, and said: ‘Enter ye Egypt (all) in safety if it please Allah.’ And he raised his parents high on the throne, and they fell down in prostration, (all) before him (wa kharruu lahuu sujjadaa). He said: ‘O my father! this is the fulfillment of my vision of old! Allah hath made it come true! He was indeed good to me when He took me out of prison and brought you (all here) out of the desert, (even) after Satan had sown enmity between me and my brothers. Verily my Lord is Gracious to whom He wills, for verily He is full of knowledge and wisdom.’ S. 12:99-100 
  

The above example of Joseph and his family should not be taken as an act of worship neither, but as an act of appreciation and respect to the prophet who did not take out revenge on his brothers who left him for death as a young boy as well as in praise of God Who brought them back together as a family unit. The critic needs to explain to us the prostrations of Jacob and his family before Esau! They did not do it once, but seven times!!

The other example is Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The Quran announces the birth of John the Baptist as a messenger sent to prepare the way for Jesus Christ: 

• “And the angels called to him (Zechariah) while he was he was standing at prayer in the sanctuary, ‘God gives you glad tidings of John, confirming a word of God, a master, chaste man and a prophet, one of the righteous.’” S. 3:39 Mahmoud’s Translation 
  

Islamic scholars almost unanimously hold that the Word of God here, which John came to confirm, is Jesus Christ. Mahmoud Ayoub citing Muslim Tabarsi states: 

• “Tabarsi argues that John was obligated by God to be a witness to the fact that Jesus was in truth the word of God and His Spirit.” (Ayoub, The Qur’an and Its Interpreters, Volume II, p. 109 bold emphasis ours) 
  

Muslim exegete al-Zamakshari substantiates this by saying: 

• “It is related that John was the first to believe in Jesus. Jesus was called Word… because he came to being only by God’s word. It was His saying, ‘kunn’ (be), and no other cause.” (Ibid, p. 108 italic emphasis ours) 
  

The interesting part of all of this that Muslim commentators claim that John actually worshiped Jesus while both were still in their mothers’ wombs! For instance, Al-Qurtubi mentions Elizabeth’s visitation (called Mary’s sister) shortly after both women had conceived: 

• “The sister visited Mary and said, ‘O Mary, do you perceive that I am with child?’ Mary answered, ‘Do you see that I am also with child?’ Her sister went on, ‘I feel the child in my womb bowing down to the child in your womb.’” 
  

Qurtubi continues:  

• “It is reported that she felt the fetus in her womb bow down with its head turned toward Mary’s womb.” (Ayoub, p. 108 bold and italic emphasis ours) 
  

Al-Tabari concurs: 

• “She [Sam-Mary] came to her sister who was then pregnant and to whom the birth of the Baptist had been announced. When the two met, the Baptist’s mother felt that her child was bowing within her in recognition of Jesus…” (History of Al-Tabari, Volume 1V, p. 114 bold emphasis ours) 
  

And: 

• “… Her sister, the wife of Zechariah, came to visit her at night. When Mary opened the door for her, the sister clung to her. The wife of Zechariah said, ‘Oh Mary, do you know I am with child?’ Mary replied, ‘Do you know, that I too am with child?’ Zechariah’s wife then said, ‘I felt that the child in me was bowing to the child in you,’ as t is written, ‘confirming the Word of God.’” (Ibid., p. 119 bold emphasis ours) 
  

Muhammad had warned his followers not to praise him as Christians praise Jesus: 

Narrated ‘Umar:

• I heard the Prophet saying, “Do not exaggerate in praising me as the Christians praised the son of Mary, for I am only a Slave. So, call me the Slave of Allah and His Apostle.” (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 654) 
  

The critic has failed miserably in the above example since he has cited interpreters and commentators' opinions, which are nowhere to be found in the quran! The critic does not seem to realise that there are things called "israeliyyat" and "mawdoou3at" (Israelite traditions and false oral accounts, respectively)! The above are echos of what the NT says and are not of Islamic sources, i.e. The Quran or the authentic hadiths by the prophet (pbuh). Therefore, the last example is a strawman and depicts the critic as a drowning person trying to hold on to a straw in the waters!!

In light of the preceding considerations, what will Muslims do with the fact that John not only bowed in praise to Jesus but did so while both were still in the womb? What will Muslims do with Allah commanding angels to bow down to Adam?  

Muslims will not do anything except laugh at the critic and his poor example!

It will not do to say that the homage given to these individuals is not the same kind of homage one gives to God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). If this is the case, then why is this practice deemed unacceptable for Muslims? Why did Muhammad forbid his followers from showing this kind of reverence to others who are worthy to receive it?

Furthermore, both Adam and Joseph received sajda, the prostration that God alone is supposed to receive. This act was in direct violation of Tauhid-al-Uluhiyyah. Yet, in the case of Adam, the one who actually commanded the angels to violate this concept was Allah himself!  

The critic should refer to my responses above and specially to the OT quotes of Genesis 33:1-7 in which Jacob seems to be doing SEVEN sajdas to his elder brother Esau! I wonder if the critic will interpolate this one in his favour?! If he thinks that the quranic sajdas cannot be explained like i did above, then he must also admit that Jacob worshipped Esau by prostrating -not once- SEVEN times as well as his whole family doing the same act of prostration for Esau!!

Further Examples of Plurality of Gods 

As we had indicated earlier, Muslims claim that the Quran is the pure word of Allah, containing nothing but the speech of Allah alone. One will not find the words of either humans or angels mixed in with the words of Allah. Commenting on the different types of material found in the Holy Bible, Muslim Apologist Ahmad Deedat contrasts that with the Quran: 

• You do not have to hunt for examples of these different types of evidences in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The following quotations will make the position crystal clear:

• The FIRST Type:

• (a) I will raise them up a prophet . . . and I will put my words in ... and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him." (Deuteronomy 18:18)

• (b) I even, I am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour." (Isaiah 43:11)

• (c) "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the end of the earth: for I am God, and there is non else." (Isaiah 45:22)

• Note the first person pronoun singular (highlighted in green) in the above references, and without any difficulty you will agree that the statements seem to have the sound of being GOD'S WORD.

• The SECOND Type:

• (a) "Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying Eli, Eli, lama sabachtani? . . ." (Matthew 27:46)

• (b) "And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord:" (Mark 12:29)

• (c) "And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? There is none good but one, that is God." (Mark 10:18).

• Even a child will be able to affirm that: Jesus "cried" Jesus "answered" and Jesus "said" are the words of the one to whom they are attributed, i.e. the WORDS OF A PROPHET OF GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

• The THIRD Type:

• "And seeing a fig tree afar off having leaves, he, (JESUS) came, if haply he (JESUS) might find anything thereon: and when he (JESUS) came to it, (Jesus) found nothing but leaves . . ." (Mark 11:13)

• The bulk of the Bible is a witnessing of this THIRD kind. These are the words of a third person. Note the underlined pronouns. They are not the Words of God or of His prophet, but the WORDS OF A HISTORIAN.

• For the Muslim it is quite easy to distinguish the above types of evidence, because he also has them in his own faith. But of the followers of the different religions, he is the most fortunate in this that his various records are contained in separate Books!

• For the Muslim it is quite easy to distinguish the above types of evidence, because he also has them in his own faith. But of the followers of the different religions, he is the most fortunate in this that his various records are contained in separate Books!

• ONE: The first kind — THE WORD OF GOD — is found in a Book called The Holy Qur’an.

• TWO: The second kind — THE WORDS OF THE PROPHET OF GOD, (Muhummed, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) are recorded in the Books of Tradition called The Hadith.

• THREE: Evidence of the third kind abounds in different volume of Islamic history, written by some of high integrity and learning, and others of lesser trustworthiness, but the Muslim advisedly keeps his Books in separate volumes!

• The Muslim keeps the above three types of evidence Jealously apart, in their proper gradations of authority. He never equates them. On the other hand, the “Holy Bible” contains a motley type of literature, which composes the embarrassing kind, the sordid, and the obscene — all under the same cover — A Christian is forced to concede equal spiritual import and authority to all, and is thus unfortunate in this regard. (Deedat, Is the Bible God’s Word?, pp 4-6- see: http://www.jamaat.net/bible/BibleIntro.html italic emphasis ours) 
  

This being the case we are forced to conclude that the Quran presents a plurality of deities. Compare the following passages with the claims made by Deedat: 

• “Such is Allah, your Lord. There is no God save Him, the Creator of all things, so worship Him. And He taketh care of all things. Vision comprehendeth Him not, but He comprehendeth (all) vision. He is the Subtile, the Aware. Proofs have come unto you from your Lord, so whoso seeth, it is for his own good, and whoso is blind is blind to his own hurt. And I am not a keeper over you.” S. 6:102-104  
  

Allah claims that he is not a keeper over man, implying that someone else is. That someone must be God also. Otherwise the Quran would be committing the sin of association, attributing the work and sustaining power of the Creator to someone other than Allah. Or worse still, the Quran might be suggesting that man has no keeper at all, implying that man must sustain himself!  

This is so ridiculous and a strawman logic, it has to be framed and inducted into the hall of fame for "ignorance"! The words "And I am not a keeper over you" do not refer to God, they refer to the prophet as a messenger delivering a message from God to mankind and that everyone is a keeper of himself/herself, i.e. in belief or rejection and the judgement is by God not by the prophet. The critic bolded the text above forgetting to bold the text preceeding it!! So, the assumptions made by the critic are all baseless and he obviously lacks any insight into the Quranic linguistic styles!

• “Shall I seek other than Allah for judge, when He it is Who hath revealed unto you (this) Scripture, fully explained? Those unto whom We gave the Scripture (aforetime) know that it is revealed from thy Lord in truth. So be not thou of the waverers.” S. 6:114  
  

If Deedat is correct, this means that Allah is asking if whether he should seek some other judge besides Allah. Allah shifts into the first person plural indicating that he is the one that revealed all the Scriptures This implies that the Quran reveals more than one Allah.  

Again, the critic failed to make sense of the clear verses! Another style of the quran that the critic is ignorant of; the question is posed for the prophet to ask (in wonderment) mankind, it implies the very opposite of what the critic is assuming here!!

• “Glorified be He Who carried His servant by night from the Inviolable Place of Worship to the Far distant place of worship the neighbourhood whereof We have blessed, that We might show him of Our tokens! Lo! He, only He, is the Hearer, the Seer.” S. 17:1  
  

We have Allah praising another Being for taking Muhammad on a night journey. From there Allah reverts to the first person plural whereby he once again glorifies the One who took Muhammad on the night journey as being the Hearer and the Seer.  

Silly Sam! Allah is The One who carried His servant (the prophet) by night (through the angel Gabriel), so where is the difficulty here?! All your boldings are very funny, I wonder if you have any intelligence at all?! Does not the God of your OT glorify Himself at all?! I think He does, but i do not see you objecting to that, Mr. double-standards!! Not only does your OT God glorify Himself, He also calls Hilself "elohim" (gods)!! Now that's what i call proof in very clear terms, not what your present in strawman terms!!

• “I am commanded only to serve the Lord of this land which He hath hallowed, and unto Whom all things belong. And I am commanded to be of those who surrender.” S. 27:1  
  

Again, Allah claims that he is commanded to worship the Lord of the land.  

The critic made a mistake in the number of the above verse, it should be 27:91 and inspite of my advice to him to correct it, he went ahead and posted it in a haste without verifying the number!! Well, the verse 91 is a command to the prophet (by God) to serve only God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). This is further illustrated by the verse

27:93 And say: "Praise be to Allah, Who will soon show you His Signs, so that ye shall know them"; and thy Lord is not unmindful of all that ye do.

So, Mr. critic man; you have proven to us that you only read what your agenda commands you to read, not in context!!

• “We come not down save by commandment of thy Lord. Unto Him belongeth all that is before us and all that is behind us and all that is between those two, and thy Lord was never forgetful.” S. 19:64  
  

We have Allah only coming down at the command of Muhammad’s Lord.  

Another funny one from Sam! This verse starts off by God explaining to the prophet what the angels say regarding their missions to earth and what their statement would be to the question of why don't angels descend on him as asked by the pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The critic did not notice the ending of the verse and how it indicates that the words are an indication of what the angels' response would be as taught to the prophet by God The author of the quran.

• “Lo! verily, ye and that which ye worship, Ye cannot excite (anyone) against Him. Save him who is to burn in hell. There is not one of us but hath his known position. Lo! we, even we are they who set the ranks, Lo! we, even we are they who hymn His praise.” S. 37:161-166  
  

This passage has Allah acknowledging his subjection and praise to another. 

Response: read the above verses in context starting from verse 37:149!! Really, i thought you were more professional than this!!

The final example includes: 

• “By no means! For We have created them out of the (base matter) they know! Now I do call to witness THE LORD OF ALL POINTS IN THE EAST AND THE WEST that WE can certainly-Substitute for them better (men) than they; And WE are not to be defeated (in Our Plan).” S. 70:39-41  
  

The Creator here swears by the Lord of all the points of the East and West. There is no break in the text to indicate than someone else is interspersing his comments with the words of the Creator. This means that there is more than one Lord and that Allah actually swears by this other Lord! 

Response: poor Sam, narrow-mindedness is an uncurable disease!! The language is far too superior for you, that's not the fault of the quran!!

In light of the preceding examples we really do not see how Muslims can evade being accused of idolatry or polytheism. Either they will have to change their position regarding the nature of the Quran and admit that it contains more than just the words of Allah. Or they will have to settle for the fact that the Quran teaches that there are several Lords, Allahs, and Creators. 

In light of all the above, we can safely conclude that Sam Shamoun is no scholar of anything and is totally ignorant of the simplest rules of apologetics! He has no knowledge of the Arabic language nor its styles, hidden pronouns or any related matter. He is a misguided individual who -even- twists his own sacred scriptures to propagate his pagan doctrines of the trinity; so it is no wonder he has fallen to such a low level of understanding or research before posting his venom on the web!

In the service of our risen Lord and eternal Savior, Jesus Christ, for ever and ever. Amen. Come Lord Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). We will always love you, for you are our Eternal Lord forever. 

I'm afraid that the Jesus you call "Lord" will reject you on the judgement day in line with:

From MKJV

Mat 7:21 Not everyone who says to Me, Lord! Lord! shall enter the kingdom of Heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in Heaven.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to Me in that day, Lord! Lord! Did we not prophesy in Your name, and through Your name throw out demons, and through Your name do many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then I will say to them I never knew you! Depart from Me, those working lawlessness!

Jesus is telling you in plain, simple words that he is not "GOD", but you are so blinded by the devil that you even reject the warnings of Jesus!! Can anyone be blinder than this! Keep on calling on Jesus' name until he rebukes you for blaspheming against God who sent him!!

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