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Rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Was Muhammad the Last Messenger?" article:

This article is a rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's article that is located at: http://www../Quran/Incoherence/last_messenger.html.

 

 

He wrote:

The Incoherence and Incompleteness of the Quran:

Was Muhammad the Last Messenger?

Sam Shamoun

The Quran teaches that Muhammad is the seal of the prophets, with the implication being that he is the last prophet:

Muhammad is not the father of any man among you, but he is the messenger of Allah and the Seal of the Prophets; and Allah is ever Aware of all things. S. 33:40 Pickthall

Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but he is the Apostle of Allah and the Last of the prophets; and Allah is cognizant of all things. S. 33:40 Shakir

Note, however, that this verse does not say that he is the last messenger, or the seal of apostleship. That will become important in this discussion.

 

My response:

Wrong!  In Islam, anyone can be a messenger of GOD Almighty, but only the ones that were selected by GOD Almighty were His Prophets, because the Prophets brought with them:

1-   Prophecies, proving that they are from GOD Almighty and not liars.  See: The Prophecies of Islam.

2-  Miracles, which again prove that they were from GOD Almighty.  See: The Scientific Miracles of the Noble Quran.

To further prove this, let us look at the following Noble Verses:

"Say: "Behold all that is in the heavens and on earth"; but neither Signs nor Warners profit those who believe not.  (The Noble Quran, 10:101)"

"And the Unbelievers say: "Why is not a sign sent down to him from his Lord?" But thou art truly a warner, and to every people a guide.  (The Noble Quran, 13:7)"

"O Prophet! Truly We have sent thee as a Witness, a Bearer of Glad Tidings, and Warner,-  (The Noble Quran, 33:45)"

"Never did We send a warner to a population, but the wealthy ones among them said: "We believe not in the (Message) with which ye have been sent."  (The Noble Quran, 34:34)"

In these Noble Verses, and in the many others that I have not listed here, Allah Almighty clearly talked about the Warners.  Every Prophet is a Warner.  Every Messenger is also a Warner.  But not every Messenger nor Warner is a Prophet!

Also, notice in Noble Verse 10:101 above when Allah Almighty Said "but neither Signs nor Warners".   This clearly further proves that Warners are not necessarily Prophets from GOD Almighty, since not all of them can perform Signs or Miracles.

I am a warner and a messenger of GOD Almighty through my web site.  I take what Islam taught 1500 years ago and teach it to as many people as I could.  However, I am definitely not a Prophet, because GOD Almighty never chose me to carry new Revelations from Him and to spread them to Mankind.  But however, He did command me to spread His Noble Quran to Mankind, which is what makes me both his humble messenger and warner:

"Verily this Qur'an doth guide to that which is most right (or stable), and giveth the Glad Tidings to the Believers who work deeds of righteousness, that they shall have a magnificent reward;  (The Noble Quran, 17:9)"  The believers in this Noble Verse could be from any nationality.

"We send down (stage by stage) in the Qur'an that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe: to the unjust it causes nothing but loss after loss.  (The Noble Quran, 17:82)"  The Noble Quran in this Verse is a heal to those who believe.  It is not limited to Arabs only.

"Say: "If the whole of mankind and Jinns were to gather together to produce the like of this Qur'an, they could not produce the like thereof, even if they backed up each other with help and support.  (The Noble Quran, 17:88)"  Why would Allah Almighty challenge Mankind to produce a Quran like it if the Noble Quran wasn't meant to be for all of Mankind and all of the Jinns too.  Jinns have Prophets too; see Noble Verse 6:130.

"And We have explained to man, in this Qur'an, every kind of similitude: yet the greater part of men refuse (to receive it) except with ingratitude!    (The Noble Quran, 17:89)"   Allah Almighty in this Noble Verse is referring to man or mankind.  Not mention of just Arabic people.

"We have explained in detail in this Qur'an, for the benefit of mankind, every kind of similitude: but man is, in most things, contentious.  (The Noble Quran, 18:54)"

"Verily in this (Qur'an) is a Message for people who would (truly) worship God.  (The Noble Quran, 21:106)Here Allah Almighty is sending a Message to all of mankind.

"Verily this Qur'an doth explain to the Children of Israel most of the matters in which they disagree.  (The Noble Quran, 27:76)"  Here we see the People of Israel are welcomed to praise the Noble Quran and use it to resolve their disagreements.

"And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: 'O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of God (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad.' But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, 'this is evident sorcery!'  (The Noble Quran, 61:6)"  In this Noble Verse we see Prophet Jesus peace be upon him giving glad tidings for Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) coming. 

If the Noble Quran is irrelevant for the People of Israel, then what purpose did this Noble Verse (61:6) serve?  And why is the Noble Verse above (27:76) inviting the People of Israel to resolve their difference through the Noble Quran, by embracing the Noble Quran?  It is quite clear that the Noble Quran is for all People.

"Blessed is He who sent down the criterion [the Noble Quran] to His servant, that it may be an admonition to all creatures [Mankind];-    (The Noble Quran, 25:1)"

"We sent thee not, but as a Mercy for all creatures.    (The Noble Quran, 21:107)"

"This is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds.    (The Noble Quran, 38:87)"

"And no reward dost thou ask of them for this: it is no less than a message for all creatures.  (The Noble Quran, 12:104)"

"Those were the (prophets) who received God's guidance: Copy the guidance they received; Say: 'No reward for this do I ask of you: This is no less than a message for the nations.(The Noble Quran, 6:90)"

"Verily this is no less than a Message to (all) the Worlds:  (The Noble Quran, 81:27)"

"Ye [ Muslims] are the best of peoples, evolved for mankind, enjoining what is right, forbidding what is wrong, and believing in God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). If only the People of the Book [Jews and Christians] had faith, it were best for them: among them are some who have faith, but most of them are perverted transgressors. (The Noble Quran 3:110)" 

Here we clearly see Allah Almighty is praising the " Muslims" and not the "Arabs" for being the "best of the peoples evolved for mankind".  The Muslims are not just Arabs.  Muslims are those who follow the Revelations of Allah Almighty in the Noble Quran.  And since this Noble Verse came to all Muslims of all races (since Arabs alone are not the best of all peoples), then it is quite clear that the Noble Quran came for all Mankind and not just the Arabs alone.

"O ye Children of Adam! We have bestowed raiment upon you to cover your shame, as well as to be an adornment to you. But the raiment of righteousness,- that is the best. Such are among the Signs of God, that they may receive admonition!  (The Noble Quran, 7:26)"

"O ye Children of Adam! Let not Satan seduce you, in the same manner as He got your parents out of the Garden, stripping them of their raiment, to expose their shame: for he and his tribe watch you from a position where ye cannot see them: We made the evil ones friends (only) to those without faith.  (The Noble Quran, 7:27)"

"O Children of Adam! wear your beautiful apparel at every time and place of prayer: eat and drink: But waste not by excess, for God loveth not the wasters.  (The Noble Quran, 7:31)" 

"O ye Children of Adam! whenever there come to you apostles from amongst you, rehearsing My signs unto you,- those who are righteous and mend (their lives),- on them shall be no fear nor shall they grieve.  (The Noble Quran, 7:35)"

"Did I not enjoin on you, O ye Children of Adam, that ye should not worship Satan; for that he was to you an enemy avowed?  (The Noble Quran, 36:60)"

Here we see Allah Almighty talking to all Muslims since Adam was the first human being and we are all his sons.

 

 

He wrote:

The Quran distinguishes between a messenger and a prophet:

Never did We send a Messenger or a Prophet before you, but; when he did recite the revelation or narrated or spoke, Shaitan (Satan) threw (some falsehood) in it. But Allah abolishes that which Shaitan (Satan) throws in. Then Allah establishes His Revelations. And Allah is All-Knower, All-Wise: S. 22:52 Al-Hilali & Khan

One of Islam’s premiere commentators named Al-Zamakhshari commented on the preceding passage:

We have never sent any messenger or prophet: (This) is a clear proof that a distinction exists between a messenger (rasul) and a prophet (nabi). (It is related) from the Prophet that he was asked about the prophets, whereupon he said: ‘(There are) one hundred and twenty-four thousand.’ When he was then asked how many messengers there were among them, he answered: ‘The great host of three hundred and thirteen.’ The distinction between the two is that a messenger is one of the prophets to whom, together with the verification miracle (mu‘jiza), the Book is sent down. A prophet, on the other hand, who is not a messenger, is one to whom no book is sent down, but who was commanded only to restrain the people on the basis of the earlier revealed law (shari‘a). (Helmut Gätje, The Qur'an and its Exegesis [Oneworld Publications, Oxford 1996], p. 54)

The Quran does not support al-Zamakhshari’s distinction between a messenger and a prophet. In fact, the Quran says just the opposite of what Zamakhshari proposes since it states that prophets are those who receive Scriptures:

(All) people are a single nation; so Allah raised PROPHETS as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed WITH THEM THE BOOK WITH TRUTH, that it might judge between people in that in which they differed; and none but the very people who were given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will those who believe to the truth about which they differed and Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path. S. 2:213 Shakir

That is Our argument. We gave it unto Abraham against his folk. We raise unto degrees of wisdom whom We will. Lo! thy Lord is Wise, Aware. And We bestowed upon him Isaac and Jacob; each of them We guided; and Noahdid We guide aforetime; and of his seed (We guided) David and Solomon and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron. Thus do We reward the good. And Zachariah and John and Jesus and Elias. Each one (of them) was of the righteous. And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot. Each one (of them) did We prefer above (Our) creatures, With some of their forefathers and their offspring and their brethren; and We chose them and guided them unto a straight path. Such is the guidance of Allah wherewith He guideth whom He will of His bondmen. But if they had set up (for worship) aught beside Him, (all) that they did would have been vain. Those are they unto whom We gave the Scripture and command and prophethood. But if these disbelieve therein, then indeed We shall entrust it to a people who will not be disbelievers therein. S. 6:83-89 Pickthall

And WE bestowed on him Isaac and Jacob, and WE placed Prophethood and the Book among his descendants, and WE gave him his reward in this life, and in the Hereafter he will, surely, be among the righteous. S. 29:27 Sher Ali

And certainly We gave the Book and the wisdom and the prophecy to the children of Israel, and We gave them of the goodly things, and We made them excel the nations. S. 45:16 Shakir

And We verily sent Noah and Abraham and placed the prophethood and the scripture among their seed, and among them there is he who goeth right, but many of them are evil-livers. S. 57:26 Pickthall

The preceding citations make it quite evident that all prophets received Scriptures. Some will try to argue that Aaron is called a prophet and he didn’t receive a Book, proving that not all prophets were given a scripture to pass on:

And, out of Our Mercy, We gave him his brother Aaron, (also) a prophet. S. 19:53 Y. Ali

Those who would make such an argument have obviously not read the Quran carefully since it plainly says that he did receive a book along with Moses:

And WE gave Moses and Aaron the Discrimination and a Light and a Reminder for the righteous, S. 21:48 Sher Ali

And We verily gave grace unto Moses and Aaron…And We gave THEM the clear Scripture. S. 37:113, 117 Pickthall

To summarize what we have seen thus far, the Quran says that Muhammad is the last prophet but it does not state that he is the last messenger. It also teaches that there is a difference between a prophet and a messenger and that Allah gives prophets Scriptures to pass on.

 

My response:

I agree with Shamoun's statement above: "The preceding citations make it quite evident that all prophets received Scriptures."   That is exactly what I just demonstrated above.

Yes, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, is the last Prophet.  The reason he is not the last Messenger or Warner is because the message of Allah Almighty is to be carried out and spread to all of Mankind till the Day of Judgement.  This makes every Muslim "missionary" a messenger of GOD Almighty, but not FROM GOD Almighty!  Only Prophets are Messengers from GOD Almighty, because they received His Divine Revelations directly from either Him or from any of His Angels, peace be upon them.

 

 

He wrote:

Based on Muhammad’s statement that there were 124,000 prophets and 313 of them were messengers (see the commentary by Al-Zamakhshari), the classical understanding is that messengers are a special subgroup of prophets, and their distinction was that they came with new revelation, a book, a new law, but the prophets only warned the people and merely pointed back to an already existing law. Yet this understanding is contrary to what the Quran actually says, since it repeatedly connects prophets with the scriptures that were given to them.

 

My response:

I believe I was once told that this Hadith is a weak one; meaning that the Prophet never said the narration.  This is similar to the Bible and its Apocrypha; they have lies and they are also have Truth in them.  Assuming that this hadith is true, this would still not contradict the proofs that I provided above from the Noble Quran about Prophets being chosen by GOD Almighty, while messengers and warners are only ordinary people, including the Prophets themselves, since the Prophets are also humans.

Archeology have already proven that man existed on this earth for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years ago!  So yes, it is quite possible that GOD Almighty sent 124,000 Prophets in the past.  And it is also quite possible that only 313 of them were warners or messengers to the people outside their circles.  In other words, they were perhaps sent to all of Mankind or to several nations of Mankind.

To further prove this, let us look at these examples:

1-  Prophet Muhammad was a Prophet and a Messenger sent to all of Mankind: 

"And We have explained to man, in this Qur'an, every kind of similitude: yet the greater part of men refuse (to receive it) except with ingratitude!    (The Noble Quran, 17:89)"   Allah Almighty in this Noble Verse is referring to man or mankind.  Not mention of just Arabic people.

"We have explained in detail in this Qur'an, for the benefit of mankind, every kind of similitude: but man is, in most things, contentious.  (The Noble Quran, 18:54)"

"Verily in this (Qur'an) is a Message for people who would (truly) worship God.  (The Noble Quran, 21:106)Here Allah Almighty is sending a Message to all of mankind.

"Verily this Qur'an doth explain to the Children of Israel most of the matters in which they disagree.  (The Noble Quran, 27:76)"  Here we see the People of Israel are welcomed to praise the Noble Quran and use it to resolve their disagreements.

See also the other Noble Verses that I presented above about the Noble Quran being sent to Mankind.

 

2-  Prophet Jesus was also a Prophet, but a Messenger with a limited destination:

"A Canaanite woman from that vicinity came to him, crying out, 'Lord, Son of David, have mercy on me! My daughter is suffering terribly from demon-possession.  Jesus did not answer a word.  So his disciples came to him and urged him, 'Send her away, for she keeps crying out after us.'  He [Jesus] answered, 'I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.'  The woman came and knelt before him.   'Lord, help me!' she said.  He [Jesus] replied 'It is not right to take the children's [Jews] bread [blessings and miracles reserved for them] and toss it to their dogs [the Gentiles].'  'Yes, Lord' she said, 'but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters' table.'   Then Jesus answered, 'Woman, you have great faith! Your request is granted.'   And her daughter was healed from that very hour.   (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 15:22-28)"

Further proofs from the Noble Quran:

"And when Jesus the Son of Mary said, O children of Israel, verily I am the Apostle of God sent unto you, confirming the law which was delivered before me, and bringing good tidings of an Apostle who shall come after me, and whose name shall be Ahmed. And when he produced unto them evident miracles, they said, this is manifest sorcery.  (The Noble Quran, 61:6)"

To the reader, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Also, Jesus' Disciples' early writings declare that Jesus never got crucified!

 

 

He wrote:

After the prior understanding has now been shown wrong, the question remains, what exactly is the relationship between the group of prophets and the group of messengers? What makes somebody a prophet? What makes somebody a messenger? The Quran makes a distinction between prophets and messengers but does not explicitly tell us what the difference is between them.

Are these two groups completely distinct? Do they have some intersection? Is one even contained in the other?

Since the foregoing discussion established that it is the prophets who received the scripture, this suggests that the relationship may be just the opposite of the classical understanding, i.e. all prophets (the smaller group) are messengers (members of the larger group) but not vice versa. The only conclusion that we can derive with certainty from the Quranic data is that there are some people who were both prophets and messengers, e.g. Jesus is given both titles:

O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, "Trinity." You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master. Sura 4:171 Khalifa

Jesus said, ‘I am a servant of ALLAH. HE has given me the Book, and has made me a Prophet; And HE has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me Prayer and almsgiving so long as I live; And HE has made me dutiful towards my mother, and has not made me arrogant and graceless; And peace was on me the day I was born, and peace will be on me the day I shall die, and the day I shall be raised up to life again.’ That was Jesus, son of Mary. This is a statement of the truth concerning which they entertain doubt. S. 19:30-34 Sher Ali

What makes this interesting is that the Quran asserts that Allah took a covenant from the prophets to assist an unnamed messenger who was to come:

It is not (possible) that a man, to whom is given the Book, and Wisdom, and the prophetic office, should say to people: "Be ye my worshippers rather than God’s": on the contrary (He would say) "Be ye worshippers of Him Who is truly the Cherisher of all: For ye have taught the Book and ye have studied it earnestly." Nor would he instruct you to take angels and prophets for Lords and patrons. What! would he bid you to unbelief after ye have bowed your will (To God in Islam)? Behold! God took the covenant of the prophets, saying: "I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you an apostle, confirming what is with you; do ye believe in him and render him help." God said: "Do ye agree, and take this my Covenant as binding on you?" They said: "We agree." He said: "Then bear witness, and I am with you among the witnesses." S. 3:79-81 Y. Ali

Other versions render Sura 3:81 slightly different:

AND, LO, God accepted, THROUGH THE PROPHETS, this solemn pledge [from the followers of earlier revelation]: "If, after all the revelation and the wisdom which I have vouchsafed unto you, there comes to you an apostle confirming the truth already in your possession, you must believe in him and succour him. Do you" - said He – "acknowledge and accept My bond on this condition?" They answered: "We do acknowledge it." Said He: "Then bear witness [thereto], and I shall be your witness." S. 3:81 Asad

Asad noted:

Lit., "the solemn pledge of the prophets". Zamakhshari holds that what is meant here is a pledge taken from the community as a whole: a pledge consisting in their acceptance of the messages conveyed through the prophets. (Source)

The late Muhammad Ali translated it similarly to Asad:

And when Allah made a covenant THROUGH THE PROPHETS: Certainly what I have been given you of Book and Wisdom – then a Messenger comes to you verifying that which is with you, you shall believe in him, and you shall aid him. He said: Do you affirm and accept My compact in this (matter)? They said: We do affirm. He said: Then bear witness that I (too) am of the bearers of witness with you. M. Ali (Source)

Ali explains the reason for his formulation in a footnote:

81a. Mithaq al-nabiyyinmeans literally the covenant of the prophets, and may therefore signify either the covenant of the prophets with Allahor the covenant of the prophets with their people. As the words that follow are plainly addressed to the people, the Jews and the Christians being particularly addressed in the last two verses, I adopt the latter interpretation, and therefore translate the words as meaning a covenant through the prophets. Both Moses and Jesus especially laid an obligation on their people to accept the prophet about whom they prophesied. Thus, through Moses, Almighty God had warned the Israelites, after promising them "a prophet from among their brethren like unto thee", and that "Whosoever will not hearken unto My words which he shall speak in My name, I will require of him" (Deut. 18:19). And Jesus was equally emphatic when, prophesying the advent of the Comforter, he added: "He will guide you into all the truth; for he shall not speak of himself, but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak" (John 16:13). As a matter of fact the Prophet had his advent foretold by all the prophets of the world. The new Testament bears testimony to this: "Whom the heaven must receive until the time of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all of His holy prophets since the world began. For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me: him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you" (Acts 3:21, 22). The covenant referred to was made through each prophet separately as he appeared in the world. And just as all the prophets foretold the advent of the Prophet Muhammad and laid an obligation upon their people to accept him, so the Prophet Muhammad also told his followers to believe in all the prophets that had appeared among different people in different ages, and this is stated in what follows. The truth of the first statement that all the prophets foretold the advent of the Prophet Muhammad is borne out by the second statement that the Prophet would bear testimony to the truth of all the prophets of the world. (Source)

What makes Ali’s comments all the more ironic is that he was an Ahmadiyya, a sect whose founder Mirza Ghulam Ahmad claimed to be another prophet after Muhammad and the promised Messiah. We will see why this is ironic shortly. Ali’s view is the typical one espoused by Muslims, that the messenger whom the others had to confirm was Muhammad.

However, what these Muslims fail to mention is that the Quran duly states that Muhammad happened to be one of these very prophets from whom Allah took a covenant:

The Prophet is closer to the believers than their selves, and his wives are (as) their mothers. And the owners of kinship are closer one to another in the ordinance of Allah than (other) believers and the fugitives (who fled from Mecca), except that ye should do kindness to your friends. This is written in the Book (of nature). And when We exacted a covenant from the prophets, and from thee (O Muhammad) and from Noah and Abraham and Moses and Jesus son of Mary. We took from them a solemn covenant; That He may ask the loyal of their loyalty. And He hath prepared a painful doom for the unfaithful. S. 33:6-8 Pickthall

The only other reference to Allah’s covenant with or through the prophets is Sura 3:81. Therefore, if this text is interpreted in light of what is stated in Surah 3:81 then it is quite apparent that Allah took a covenant from Muhammad as well, which means that he too, as well as his community, had to uphold the messenger who would come to confirm the Scriptures given to all the prophets.

The Quran’s incoherence on this point has allowed for specific Muslims to argue that Allah intended to send at least one more messenger after Muhammad. One such person was the late Rashad Khalifa who was murdered by bloodthirsty Muslims. The readers can even see some of the arguments used by both himself and his followers and read for themselves how they have been able to successfully use Suras 3:81, 33:7 and 40 to their advantage: http://www.submission.org/messenger/

The author of the Quran could have avoided all this confusion, thereby preventing individuals from using these references to support their claim, by simply inserting the name of Muhammad or by saying that Muhammad was the last messenger. In other words, the author could have written Sura 3:81 to say that a messenger is coming whose name is such and such, explicitly mentioning that messenger by name, much like the words he put into the mouth of Jesus:

And call to mind when Jesus, son of Mary, said, ‘O children of Israel, surely, I am ALLAH's Messenger unto you, fulfilling that which is before me of the prophecies of the Torah, and giving glad tidings of a Messenger who will come after me, his name being Ahmad. And when he came to them with clear proofs, they said, this is manifest sorcery.’ Sura 61:6

(Note: Even this passage’s meaning is debated since it is not certain whether this is giving the proper name of someone to come, or is simply giving a specific description of that person. For more on these points please read this article.

Or it could have said in Sura 33:40 that Muhammad was the last prophet and the last messenger. Unfortunately for orthodox Muslims, the Quran clearly failed to use such language.

As it stands, certain sects have capitalized (quite successfully we might add) on the Quran’s incoherence and incompleteness, specifically in its failure to state more explicitly and clearly that Muhammad was the last messenger.

 

 

My response:

I like it when you said "this suggests that the relationship may be just the opposite of the classical understanding, i.e. all prophets (the smaller group) are messengers (members of the larger group) but not vice versa."

It's kind of funny how we both reached the same conclusion about Prophets being chosen from GOD Almighty while Messengers and Warners are ordinary people, which also include the Prophets themselves, peace be upon them, since they are too ordinary people.

As to the Ahmediyya's false prophet, I don't care about him nor them.  They can believe in whatever garbage they want to believe in.  They are no different than the African-American "Nation of Islam", and the Submitters cult of Rashad Khalifa.   They all have Islam miserably misunderstood, and they certainly do not represent mainstream Islam.  So there is no point in bringing them up, because we do not bring the Mormons of Joseph Smith up against Christianity.  Do you see me using Joseph Smith against your bible?

I have only used the Mormon's interpretation of the Bible about polygamy, since they practice it and they justify it using the very same Bible that Shamoun uses, but I never used Joseph Smith as an authority against Christianity.

To the reader:  By the way, Jesus in the New Testament did indeed allow polygamy through his parable of the 1 husband and his 10 virgin wives.  See the proofs for yourself at: www.answering-christianity.com/ntpoly.htm.

As to Jesus being the Word of GOD Almighty, yes he is GOD Almighty's Word just like Adam.  They both were created from GOD Almighty's Word:

 

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/founders_rebuttal.htm#jesus_is_word:

2-   Jesus is the Word of GOD Almighty.  That is perfectly agreed upon in Islam:

"Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to God;  (The Noble Quran, 3:45)"

"She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!   (The Noble Quran, 3:47)"

Before we go any further, please visit the following rebuttals to John 1:1:

  1. Answering John 1:1.

  2. The "God" title in the Bible was given to others in the Old and New Testaments.   Answering Isaiah 9:6.  The "El" (God) title that was given to Jesus in the Old Testament, and the "HOTHEOS" (God) title in the New Testament, were given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  The only UNIQUE title that exists in the Bible is "Yahweh", which means "The Eternal".

  3. Emanuel, Emmanuel, Yahshua, Yeshua, Yashua, Immanuel and Imanuel.  These were all "Godly" names given to others before and after Jesus in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  None of them is unique.   Only "Yahweh" was GOD Almighty's Unique Name.


Jesus, like Adam, was GOD Almighty's Word in the sense that GOD Almighty Said to him "Be" and he became:

"The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.   (The Noble Quran, 3:59)"

"She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!   (The Noble Quran, 3:47)"

The Miracle of Adam's creation is far greater than Jesus', because while Jesus, the Word (part of GOD Almighty's Word), came through a woman to earth, Adam came from nothing, and his wife, Eve, came from his rib; peace be upon all of them.  But both Adam and Jesus were the same in terms of coming to existence.  GOD Almighty Said to them "Be" and they became.  Eve and the rest of humanity have lesser status because Eve came from Adam, and we all are recycles of Adam and Eve through out parents' sperms and eggs.  That is why Allah Almighty Said:

 

"O mankind! reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single soul (nafsin wahidatin), created, of like nature, His mate (zawjaha, i.e., Eve), and from them twain scattered (like seeds) countless men and women;- reverence God, through whom ye demand your mutual (rights), and (reverence) the wombs (That bore you): for God ever watches over you.  (The Noble Quran, 4:1)"

nafsin is derived from nafs, which means "self" or "soul".

wahidatin is derived from wahid, which means "one".

zawjaha is derived from zawj or zawja which means spouse.  Obviously it is referring to Eve.

That nafs is Adam's, because Eve and the rest of us came from him, while he came from nothing.  He was a Word from GOD Almighty.

Only Adam and Jesus from humanity are from the Word of GOD Almighty.    GOD Almighty directly and personally "spoke them" when He Created them.   I was not spoken by GOD Almighty when I was created, because I am only a recycle.

So Jesus the "Word", is really not the biological son of Mary.  His name or title on earth was "the son of Mary" as Noble Verse 3:45 above states.     But he himself is not really her biological son as we are the sons and daughters of our biological parents, because:

1-  He, Jesus, is higher than Mary.  He was a "Word" from GOD Almighty, while she was not.  She was like us, a recycle.

2-  He had no father because, like Adam, he was directly spoken by GOD Almighty.


The following articles shed more light on this subject along with the topic of the Holy Spirit and Its role in Islam:

  1. What is the role of the Holy Spirit in Islam?  Why can't we call it GOD?

  2. My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Examining the Evidence which proves that the Spirit is God" blasphemous article.

  3. My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "Examining the Evidence which proves that the Spirit is God" blasphemous article (PART II).

  4. My rebuttal to Sam Shamoun's "A Brief Rebuttal to Anti-Missionary Attacks on the Trinity" article.

 
Jesus, like I said above, was a Word from GOD Almighty.  He wasn't the whole entire Word of GOD Almighty.  He was rather created from It.  GOD Almighty has several characteristics that He Assigns to Angels.  For instance, Angel Gabriel is the "Power of GOD" (in Hebrew that's what the word means), and he is also assigned for sending down Revelations.  The Holy Spirit also sends down Divine Revelations as well:

"Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-  (The Noble Quran, 2:97)"

"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.  (The Noble Quran, 16:102)"


The Guardian Angels and the Angels of Death:

Also, the Angels of Death whom GOD Almighty uses to end our lives here on earth.  Also, the Guardian Angels and the Holy Spirit whom GOD Almighty uses to send down Inspirations to His servants:


Guardian Angels:

"He is the irresistible, (watching) from above over His worshippers, and He sets guardians over you. At length, when death approaches one of you, Our angels take his soul, and they never fail in their duty.  (The Noble Quran, 6:61)"

"Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne (of Authority): by His Command doth He send the Spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants he pleases, that it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,-  (The Noble Quran, 40:15)"

"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.  (The Noble Quran, 16:102)"

Angels of Death:

"He is the irresistible, (watching) from above over His worshippers, and He sets guardians over you. At length, when death approaches one of you, Our angels take his soul, and they never fail in their duty.   (The Noble Quran, 6:61)"

"But how (will it be) when the angels take their souls at death, and smite their faces and their backs?  (The Noble Quran, 47:27)"

"If thou couldst see, when the angels take the souls of the Unbelievers (at death), (How) they smite their faces and their backs, (saying): "Taste the penalty of the blazing Fire-  (The Noble Quran, 8:50)"


The Holy Spirit to us:

The Holy Spirit is used for literally creating our Spirits in our flesh in our mothers' wombs, and for inspiring us as well:

Creation of our souls from the Holy Spirit:

"But He fashioned him in due proportion, and breathed into him something of His Spirit.  And He gave you (the faculties of) hearing and sight and feeling (and understanding): little thanks do ye give!    (The Noble Quran, 32:9)"

"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My Spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.  (The Noble Quran, 38:72)"

"When I have fashioned him (in due proportion) and breathed into him of My Spirit, fall ye down in obeisance unto him.  (The Noble Quran, 15:29)"

"And (remember) her who guarded her chastity: We breathed into her of Our Spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for all peoples.  (The Noble Quran, 21:91)"

"And Mary the daughter of 'Imran, who guarded her chastity; and We breathed into (her body) of Our Spirit; and she testified to the truth of the words of her Lord and of His Revelations, and was one of the devout (servants).  (The Noble Quran, 66:12)"

Inspirations from the Holy Spirit:

"Raised high above ranks (or degrees), (He is) the Lord of the Throne (of Authority): by His Command doth He send the Spirit (of inspiration) to any of His servants he pleases, that it may warn (men) of the Day of Mutual Meeting,-  (The Noble Quran, 40:15)"

"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.  (The Noble Quran, 16:102)"

"Thou wilt not find any people who believe in God and the Last Day, loving those who resist God and His Apostle, even though they were their fathers or their sons, or their brothers, or their kindred. For such He has written Faith in their hearts, and strengthened them with a Spirit from Himself. And He will admit them to Gardens beneath which Rivers flow, to dwell therein (for ever). God will be well pleased with them, and they with Him. They are the Party of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Truly it is the Party of God that will achieve Felicity.  (The Noble Quran, 58:22)"

"Then will God say: "O Jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the Holy Spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'  (The Noble Quran, 5:110)"

And like I mentioned above, the Holy Spirit also sends down Divine Revelations:

"Say: Whoever is an enemy to Gabriel-for he brings down the (revelation) to thy heart by God's will, a confirmation of what went before, and guidance and glad tidings for those who believe,-  (The Noble Quran, 2:97)"

"Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the Revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.  (The Noble Quran, 16:102)"

Etc...

So Jesus, like Adam, being a Word from GOD Almighty and not a recycle like us from a father's sperm and a mother's egg doesn't make him GOD Almighty Himself.    Many carry GOD Almighty's Characteristics for Inspiration, Wrath, Death, Power, Word, Creating our human-spirits and life, etc..  Jesus is just one of them.

 

 

He wrote:

There is another problem that arises from the above, specifically from this particular passage:

And that is OUR argument which WE gave to Abraham against his people. WE exalt in decrees of rank whomso WE please. Thy Lord is indeed Wise, All-Knowing. And WE gave him Isaac and Jacob; each did WE guide aright, and Noah did WE guide aright aforetime, and of his progeny, David and Solomon and Job and Josephand Moses and Aaron. Thus do WE reward those who do good. And WE guided Zachariah and Johnand Jesus and Elias; each one of them was of the righteous. And WE also guided Ishmaeland Elisha and Jonahand Lot! and each one of them did WE exalt above the people. And WE exalted some of their fathers and their children and their brethren, and WE chose them and WE guided them in the straight path. That is the guidance of ALLAH. HE guides thereby those of HIS servants whom HE pleases. And if they had worshiped aught beside HIM, surely all they did would have been of no avail to them. It is to these whom WE gave the Book and dominion and Prophethood. But if they are ungrateful for these favours it matters not, for WE have now entrusted them to a people who are not ungrateful for them. S. 6:83-89 Sher Ali

The foregoing claims that all the above prophets were given scriptures. There is even a reference to the pages or scrolls of Abraham:

Lo! This is in the former scrolls. The Books of Abraham and Moses. S. 87:18-19 Pickthall

In light of the foregoing we would like the Muslims to show us what were the Scriptures which Abraham, Lot, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, Joseph and Elijah received. We would like for them to provide the pre-Islamic evidence, MSS, any archaeological or biblical data that supports what the Quran says here. So far we are not aware of any evidence that such scriptures ever existed.

 

My response:

According to Islam, any Word that GOD Almighty Sends upon any of his Creation is a 'Quran' or a Divine Revelation from Him.  And even in the Bible, GOD Almighty gave many instructions to Abraham, peace be upon him, to do things.  For instance, when GOD Almighty instructed Abraham to not kill (sacrifice) his son and to sacrifice a lamb instead, to us Muslims, that is 'Quran' by itself, with the exception that we don't believe that the Bible contains accurate Divine Revelations.  We believe that the Bible had been corrupted and altered and tampered with by man.  Man rewrote the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is not only according to Islam, but ironically, it is also according to the Bible's own theologians.

Also, the Bible is almost virtually silent on the details of Abraham's life when he was in Iraq!  Abraham, peace be upon him, WAS NOT an Israeli, Hebrew, Palestinian or Egyptian!  He was an Iraqi!  And the Bible mentions almost nothing about Abraham's life while he was in Iraq.

Also, before I produce the evidence against the Bible, it is also important to know that Allah Almighty Decides which Revelations of His are to be preserved here on earth and which are to be lost forever.  Not every Revelation that GOD Almighty Sent was necessarily sent for the purpose to be permanently preserved, because it may not have been applicable to the humans that came afterward. 

Also, given the limited resources and knowledge that people had back then, especially during the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of years ago, I wouldn't imagine that it would possible for any material to be preserved for us today!

Let us also not forget the Great Flood during Noah's time, peace be upon him, and the ciaos that it caused earth.  Certainly any and all Revelations that were carved in stones or written on animal skins of any kind had to get lost from the Great Flood!

Also, even in Shamoun's own bible, there are references to books that are not part of the Bibles of today!  They are lost books.

 

There are 22 books mentioned in Shamoun's Bible that are lost!

 

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/lost_books.htm:

Books mentioned in the Bible that are not part of the "Today's Bible":

From http://www.bibleufo.com/anomlostbooks1.htm:

 

The Lost Books of the Bible

 Books Mentioned, But Not Found, In The Bible
There are twenty-two books mentioned in the Bible, but not included.  The variation is due to possible double mentions using differing names for the same book.

Book of the Covenant
Exodus 24:7
  And he took the book of the covenant, and read in the audience of the people: and they said, All that the Lord hath said will we do, and be obedient.
There are those that believe the Book of the Covenant is found in Exodus chapters 20 through 23. There are no authoritative sources for this text.

Book of the Wars of the Lord
Numbers 21:14  Wherefore it is said in the book of the wars of the Lord, What he did in the Red sea, and in the brooks of Arnon,
Certain sources believe that this is to be found by drawing text from several Old Testament books.  There are no authoritative sources for this text.

Book of Jasher Here   We have the entire book on this site Here
Joshua 10:13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.
2 Samuel 1:18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)

The Manner of the Kingdom / Book of Statutes

1 Samuel 10:25 Then Samuel told the people the manner of the kingdom, and wrote it in a book, and laid it up before the Lord. And Samuel sent all the people away, every man to his house.

Book of Samuel the Seer
1 Chronicles 29:29  Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

Nathan the Prophet
1 Chronicles 29:29  Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,
2 Chronicles 9:29
 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Acts of Solomon
1 Kings 11:41  
And the rest of the acts of Solomon, and all that he did, and his wisdom, are they not written in the book of the acts of Solomon?

Shemaiah the Prophet
2 Chronicles 12:15 
Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.

Prophecy of Abijah
2 Chronicles 9:29  Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Story of Prophet Iddo
2 Chronicles 13:22  
And the rest of the acts of Abijah, and his ways, and his sayings, are written in  the story of the prophet Iddo.

Visions of Iddo the Seer
2 Chronicles 9:29
 Now the rest of the acts of Solomon, first and last, are they not written in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the prophecy of Ahijah the Shilonite, and in the visions of Iddo the seer against Jeroboam the son of Nebat?

Iddo Genealogies
2 Chronicles 12:15
Now the acts of Rehoboam, first and last, are they not written in the book of Shemaiah the prophet, and of Iddo the seer concerning genealogies? And there were wars between Rehoboam and Jeroboam continually.

Book of Jehu
2 Chronicles 20:34 
Now the rest of the acts of Jehoshaphat, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Jehu the son of Hanani, who is mentioned in the book of the kings of Israel.

Sayings of the Seers  Here
2 Chronicles 33:19  His prayer also, and how God was intreated of him, and all his sin, and his trespass, and the places wherein he built high places, and set up groves and graven images, before he was humbled: behold, they are written among the sayings of the seers.

Book of Enoch  Here
Jude 1:14   And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

Book of Gad the Seer 
1 Chronicles 29:29   Now the acts of David the king, first and last, behold, they are written in the book of Samuel the seer, and in the book of Nathan the prophet, and in the book of Gad the seer,

Epistle to Corinth Here
1 Corinthians 5:9  I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:

Epistle to the Ephesians   (Missing)
Ephesians  3:3
  How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,  4 Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)  

Epistle from Laodicea to the Colossians  (Missing)
Colossians 4:16  And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea.

Nazarene Prophecy Source
Matthew 2:23  
And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene

Acts of Uziah
2 Chronicles 26:22
  Now the rest of the acts of Uzziah, first and last, did Isaiah the prophet, the son of Amoz, write.

The Annals of King David
1 Chronicles 27:24
 Joab son of Zeruiah began to count the men but did not finish. Wrath came on Israel on account of this numbering, and the number was not entered in the book of the annals of King David.

Jude, the Missing Epistle

Jude 1:3  Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

 

 

Now to the Bible's theologians on the corruption of the Bibles:

From www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm:

Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bibles:

II Samuel 10:18 talks about David slew the men of 700 chariots of the Syrians and 40,000 horsemen and Shobach the commander.
I Chronicles 1:18 says that David slew the men of 7000 chariots and 40,000 footmen

I Chronicles 9:25 says that Solomon had 4000 stalls for horses and chariots.
I Kings 4:26 says that he had 40,000 stalls for horses

Ezra 2:5 talks about an exile Arah having 775 sons.
Nehemiah 7:10 talks about the same exile Arah having 652 sons.

II Samuel 24:13 So God came to David, and told him, and said unto him, shall SEVEN YEARS OF FAMINE come unto thee in thy land? or will thou flee three months before thine enemies, while they pursue. thee?
I Chronicles 21:11 SO God came to David, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD, Choose thee. Either THREE YEARS OF FAMINE or three months to be destryed before thy foes, while that the sword of thine enemies overtaketh thee;

How did Judas die?
"And he cast down the pieces of silver into the temple and departed, and went out and hanged himself." (Matthew 27:5)
"And falling headlong, he burst asunder in the midst, and all of his bowels gushed out." (Acts 1:18)

2 Samuel 6:23 Therefore MICHAL the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death.
2 Samuel 21:8 But the king took the two sons of Rizpah the daughter of Aiah, whom she bare unto Saul, Armoni and Mephibosheth; and the five sons of MICHAL the daughter of Saul, whom she brought up for Adriel the son of Barzillai the Meholathite.

2 Kings 24:8 Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. And his mother's name was Nehushta, the daughter of Elnathan of Jerusalem.
2 Chronicles 36:9 Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem: and he did that which was evil in the sight of the LORD.

26th year of the reign of Asa I Kings 16:6-8
36th year of the reign of Asa I 2 Chronicles 16:1

How old was Ahaziah when he began to reign?
22 in 2 Kings 8:26
42 in 2 Chronicle 22:2

Who was Josiah's successor?
Jehoahaz - 2 Chronicle 36:1
Shallum - Jeremiah 22:11

Also, your original scriptures are all doubtful according to the Bible's own theologians and historians.  It's quite hilarious that even the Bible itself admits that it has been tampered with and corrupted by man's garbage:

"`How can you say, "We [the Jews] are wise, for we have the law of the LORD," when actually the lying pen of the scribes has handled it falsely?' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

The Revised Standard Version makes it even clearer: "How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie.   (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)"

And regarding who wrote the books and gospels of the Bible, as I quoted above, here is a sample of what the NIV Bible's theologians and historians wrote:

"Serious doubts exists as to whether these verses belong to the Gospel of Mark.  They are absent from important early manuscripts and display certain peculiarities of vocabulary, style and theological content that are unlike the rest of Mark.  His Gospel probably ended at 16:8, or its original ending has been lost.  (From the NIV Bible Foot Notes, page 1528)"

"Although the author does not name himself, evidence outside the Scriptures and inferences from the book itself lead to the conclusion that the author was Luke.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1643)"

"The writer of this letter does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients.   (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1856)"

"The letter is difficult to date with precision....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 1905)"

"It seems safe to conclude that the book, at least in its early form, dates from the beginning of the monarchy. Some think that Samuel may have had a hand in shaping or compiling the materials of the book, but in fact we are unsure who the final author or editor was.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 286)"

"Although, according to tradition, Samuel wrote the book, authorship is actually uncertain.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

"The date of the composition is also unknown, but it was undoubtedly during the monarchy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 322)"

"The author is unknown. Jewish tradition points to Samuel, but it is unlikely that he is the author because the mention of David (4:17,22) implies a later date.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 360)"

"Who the author was cannot be known with certainty since the book itself gives no indication of his identity.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 368)"

"There is little conclusive evidence as to the identity of the author of 1,2 Kings.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

"Whoever the author was, it is clear that he was familiar with the book of Deuteronomy.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 459)"

"According to ancient Jewish tradition, Ezra wrote Chronicles, Ezra and Nehemiah (see Introduction to Ezra: Literary Form and Authorship), but this cannot be established with certainty.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 569)"

"Although we do not know who wrote the book of Esther, from internal evidence it is possible to make some inferences about the author and the date of composition.  (From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 707)"

"The unknown author probably had access to oral and/or written sources....(From the NIV Bible commentary, page 722)"

"Regarding authorship, opinions are even more divided....(From the NIV Bible Commentary, page 773)"

etc...

How do you respond to this?


Please visit: Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible, and see exactly what I mean, instead of acting like a total fool and saying things that even the Bible refutes in it!

It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.


Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

After that, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.

 

 

 

So there you have it pal.
Checkmate!

 

 

 

 

 

 

Refutations to the so-called "contradictions in the Quran" lies.

Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.

Rebuttals to Sam Shamoun's Articles section.

Errors and History of Contradictions and Corruption in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Allah, Islam, Quran, Muhammad questions and answers.

Answering Trinity.

"Allah" was GOD Almighty's Original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.


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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?
  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  

       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called
slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.