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Does Genesis 1:1-3 refer to Trinity?

By
Kamal


Let's look at the verses:

Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep.  And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
Gen 1:3 And God said, 'Let there be light': and there was light.

Now this is this is the interpretation of some Trinitarians about it.  They claim 3 personalities of God are mentioned:

In Gen1:1 God the Father is mentioned.
In Gen1:2 God the Spirit is mentioned.
In Gen1:3 God the Word is mentioned.

Now here are the difficulties about their interpretation:

1) Verse Gen 1:2 is one of the translations, not the only one!  In the Samaritan bible, the term "the wind of God" is used in place of "the spirit of God"! And if you were sincere you would realize that the "wind of God" or “breath of God” is a more correct translation of the Hebrew word "ruach"!  Everyone knows that Genesis is about creation, and is about the heavens and the earth being created and this involves earth, water and winds more than it would involve "spirit"!  Why would Genesis say "in the beginning God.."?  If trinitarians try to force this interpretation they have to accept those verses say God has a beginning instead of Creation has a beginning.  Is God not supposed to be eternal?

2) Another fallacy is made by telling that Gen 1:3 is indicative of the word of God (Jesus?)!   Where does it say so?  If you read the verse with an open mind you will see this is a clear interpolation.  It says "Then God said, "Let there be light"; and there was light." Why would they translate the words "God said" into "word"?!  It does not say so in the Hebrew nor in the English translation, does it?

Compare with Gen 1:1 He created the heaven and the earth without mentioning His word..would they agree then that His word didn't exist then? Or did He create without His word in Gen 1:1?  The only clear thing that this verse shows is that God and His word are undevidable and surely this refutes the Trinitarian view of distinct persons in a trinity.

3) Where does Genesis 1:1-3 refer to CO-EQUALITY, CO-ETERNITY, AND CONSUBSTANTIALITY of the three persons of the trinity?  It is not the Quran alone, but even the bible itself and the HEBREW jews (who know their own bible and language more than many trinitarians ever will) never read a trinuine God in genesis. 

 

Question to the trinitarians:

Why didn't God teach the jews by their prophets about trinity?  Why did even Jesus (peace be upon him) not leave a clear definition of trinity in His gospel?  Are they going to tell us that for thousands of years they could not see trinity in their bibles?

 

Conclusion:

Genesis actually refutes the trinity that is based on distinct persons in the Godhead.

 

 

 

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The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [
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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?
  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  

       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called
slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.