The Romans had been defeated
around, or
in the area of, the lowest land on
earth
غلبت الروم في ادنى الارض
Below, the reader will clearly see how Sam Shamoun and Jochen Katz:
1- Contradicted and refuted themselves on the
topic of the Hadiths.
2- Fabricated a desperate lie to cover up for the
humiliating documentations that we've post on our web site regarding Sam
Shamoun's toilet mouth - a mouth that is as low as a toilet because of all of
the countless and graphic foul rubbish that it
utters.
3- They lies by fabricating a quote on my mouth
which I have exposed below.
Also visit:
They wrote:
Sinking to Dead Sea levels
In search of the lowest point in Muslim apologetics
Osama Abdallah is really trying hard to redeem himself after his humiliating
loss in our debate on the subject of whether Muhammad was a true prophet (here).
My response:
Again, as thoroughly demonstrated in the following table, Allah Almighty
Said:
The
Romans had been defeated
around, or
in the area of,
the lowest land on earth
3-
Geology of the Earth, its Shape, its
Movement in Space, its Atmosphere, and the Formation of
Rain:
Noble Verse(s) 30:2-30:3
Yusuf Ali:
[030:002] The Roman Empire has been
defeated-
[030:003]
In a land close
by;(WRONG
TRANSLATION as thoroughly demonstrated
below) but they, (even) after (this)
defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious-
Transliteration:
[030:002] Ghulibati alrroomu
[030:003]
Fee adna al-ardi
wahum min baAAdi ghalabihim sayaghliboona
Arabic (from right to left):
30:2
غلبت الروم
30:3
في ادنى الارض وهم من
بعد غلبهم سيغلبون
"In a land close by" is a mistranslation that is
even contradicted by the translators' translations of the Holy
Word in the following Noble Verses:
Noble Verse(s) 32:21
Sher Ali:
[032:021] And most surely WE will
make them taste of the lesser
punishment before the greater
punishment, that they may return to US with repentance.
Pickthall:
[032:021] And verily We make them taste the
lower punishment
before the greater, that haply they may return.
Transliteration:
[032:021] Walanutheeqannahum mina
alAAathabi al-adna doona alAAathabi al-akbari
laAAallahum yarjiAAoona
Arabic (from right to left):
32:21
ولنذيقنهم من
العذاب الادنى
دون العذاب الاكبر لعلهم يرجعون
Noble Verse(s) 53:9
Dr. Munir Munshey (one of
www.answering-christianity.com's authors):
[053:009] He was two bow-lengths away,
or less,
Transliteration:
[053:009] Fakana qaba qawsayni
aw adna
Arabic (from right to left):
53:9
فكان قاب قوسين
او ادنى
The "OR" in this Noble Verse talks about a
relativistic and varrying calculation
depending on HOW ONE WANTS TO CALCULATE IT
and long is the bow the person uses.
Noble Verse(s) 58:7
Yusuf Ali:
[058:007] Seest thou not that God
doth know (all) that is in the heavens and on earth?
There is not a secret consultation between three, but He
makes the fourth among them, - Nor between five but He
makes the sixth,- nor between
fewer nor more, but He is in their
midst, wheresoever they be: In the end will He tell them
the truth of their conduct, on the Day of Judgment. For
God has full knowledge of all things.
Dr. Munir Munshey (one
of www.answering-christianity.com's authors):
[058:007] Do you not realize that Allah knows
everything in the heavens and on earth? Never is there a
secret conference of three, where He is not the fourth
(listening in); nor of five, where He is not the sixth
(listening). Even when there
are less (than three) or more than that number
(holding secret talks), He is (always) with them no
matter where they might happen to be. Later, on the Day
of Judgment, He will tell them everything they had done!
Indeed, Allah knows every single thing!
Transliteration:
[058:007] Alam tara anna Allaha yaAAlamu ma fee
alssamawati wama fee al-ardi ma yakoonu min najwa
thalathatin illa huwa rabiAAuhum wala khamsatin illa
huwa sadisuhum wala adna min
thalika wala akthara illa huwa maAAahum ayna
ma kanoo thumma yunabbi-ohum bima AAamiloo yawma
alqiyamati inna Allaha bikulli shay-in AAaleemun
Arabic (from right to left):
58:7
الم تر ان الله يعلم مافي السماوات ومافي الارض مايكون من
نجوى ثلاثة الا هو رابعهم ولاخمسة الا هو سادسهم
ولاادنى من ذلك
ولااكثر الا هو معهم اين ماكانوا ثم ينبئهم
بما عملوا يوم القيامة ان الله بكل شئ عليم
Sher Ali:
[058:007] Seest thou not that ALLAH knows all that is
in the heavens and all that is in the earth ? There is
no secret counsel of three, but HE is their fourth, nor
of five but HE is their sixth, nor of less
than that, nor of more, but HE is
with them wheresoever they may be. Then on the Day of
Resurrection HE will inform them of what they did.
Surely, ALLAH has full knowledge of all things.
Shakir:
[058:007] Do you not see that Allah knows whatever is
in the heavens and whatever is in the earth? Nowhere is
there a secret counsel between three persons but He is
the fourth of them, nor (between) five but He is the
sixth of them, nor less than
that nor more but He is with them
wheresoever they are; then He will inform them of what
they did on the day of resurrection: surely Allah is
Cognizant of all things.
Pickthall:
[058:007] Hast thou not seen that Allah knoweth all
that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth ?
There is no secret conference of three but He is their
fourth, nor of five but He is their sixth,
nor of less than
that or more but He is with them
wheresoever they may be; and afterward, on the Day of
Resurrection, He will inform them of what they did. Lo!
Allah is Knower of all things.
Sale:
[058:007] Dost thou not perceive that God knoweth
whatever is in heaven and in earth? There is no private
discourse among three persons, but He is the fourth of
them; nor among five, but He is the sixth of them;
neither among a
smaller number than this, nor a larger,
but He is with them; wheresoever they be: And He will
declare unto them that which they have done, on the day
of resurrection; for God knoweth all things.
Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan:
[058:007] Have you not seen that Allah knows whatsoever
is in the heavens and whatsoever is on the earth? There
is no Najwa (secret counsel) of three, but He is their
fourth (with His Knowledge, while He Himself is over the
Throne, over the seventh heaven), nor of five but He is
their sixth (with His Knowledge),
not of
less than that or more, but He is
with them (with His Knowledge) wheresoever they may be;
and afterwards on the Day of Resurrection, He will
inform them of what they did. Verily, Allah is the
All-Knower of everything.
Palmer:
[058:007] Dost thou not see that God knows what is in
the heavens and what is in the earth? and that there
cannot be a privy discourse of three but He makes the
fourth? nor of five but He makes the sixth?
nor less than
that nor more, but that He is with
them wheresoe'er they be? then He will inform them of
what they have done upon the resurrection day; verily,
God all things doth know!
Arberry:
[058:007] God has numbered it, and they have forgotten
it. God is witness over everything. Hast thou not seen
that God knows whatsoever is in the heavens, and
whatsoever is in the earth? Three men conspire not
secretly together, but He is the fourth of them, neither
five men, but He is the sixth of them,
neither fewer
than that, neither more, but He is
with them, wherever they may be; then He shall tell them
what they have done, on the Day of Resurrection. Surely
God has knowledge of everything.
[058:007] Do you not realize that GOD knows everything
in the heavens and everything on earth? No three people
can conspire secretly without Him being their fourth,
nor five without Him being the sixth,
nor less than
that, nor more, without Him being
there with them wherever they may be. Then, on the Day
of Resurrection, He will inform them of everything they
had done. GOD is fully aware of all things.
Rodwell:
[058:007] Dost thou not see that God knoweth all that
is in the Heavens and all that is in the Earth? Three
persons speak not privately together, but He is their
fourth; nor five, but He is their sixth;
nor fewer nor
more, but wherever they be He is
with them. Then on the day of resurrection He will tell
them of their deeds: for God knoweth all things.
As virtually every single English translator on my web site,
www.QuranSearch.com, have translated ADNA
ادنىin this Noble Verse, 58:7,
to "lower" or
"lesser", then based
on what objective ground will we now reject the same translation
of "lowest land" to
be applied to Noble Verse 30:3?
6. Arabic-English dictionary the Hans Wehr
dictionary [6], Page 734.
Fi في
, as in في ادنى الارض
,
which was translated as
"IN", also means:
فى (fi):
وسط (wasat) in the middle.
فى (fi):
داخل (daakhil) inside, or
in.
فى (fi):
على (aala) on.
فى (fi):
مع (maa') with.
فى (fi):
مِن (min)
which, who, whom.
فى (fi):
إلى (ila)
to.
فى (fi):
بِ (bi)
by, at, to.
فى (fi):
بعد (baad)
after, beyond.
فى (fi):
من (min)
from.
فى (fi): in, at, by,
near, within, about, on, concerning, with reference to, as to,
according to, in proportion to, AFTER as in
كذب في كذب lie
AFTER lie, BEFORE as in
فيما مضى before
what passed.
So as we clearly see, the land which the Romans were defeated
in were:
1- The lowest lands.
2- The most despicable lands,
as the interpretation of
Noble Verse 2:61 above, from Lisan Al-Arab dictionary,
along with the many other proofs that I've provided clearly
prove that ADNA means the LOWEST and MOST DESPISED.
3- At and near and around
"ADNA"
ادنى
"THE LAND"
الارض
.
And what is this "land"? It is the most despicable
and lowest land!
Important Note:
Perhaps, that is why Allah Almighty preceded
"land"
ارض
with the definite article THE
ال,
and didn't say:
ادنى ارضكم
near YOUR LAND! No, He, the
Almighty, instead said
ادنى الارض
-
making the reference to a specific foreign land, which
also happens to be the lowest and most despicable one.
So ADNA
ادنى here is applied to
the status of the land, making it despicable and lowest, and
with the definite article THE
ال
, the defeat of the Romans happened near and around that
referenced doomed piece of land.
So to put it
together in a simpler form, Noble Verses
30:2-3 should read:
30:2
غلبت الروم
30:3
في ادنى الارض
The
Romans had been defeated at near and around
THE MOST DESPICABLE AND LOWEST LAND.
It just so happens that these lands were near
the lowest spot on earth, the dead sea area, which is
approximately 400 meters below the sea level, and which also
happens to be the land where Sodom and Gomorrah were doomed in.
Also, Surah 30 contains a remarkable historical Prophecy which was fulfilled:
30:2
غلبت الروم
30:3
في ادنى الارض وهم من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون
30:4
في بضع سنين لله الامر من قبل ومن بعد
ويومئذ يفرح المؤمنون
30:5
بنصر الله ينصر من يشاء وهو العزيز الرحيم
[030:002] Romans have been defeated,
[030:003] In the lowest land! But
after being defeated they will emerge victorious,
[030:004] Within several years! To
Allah belong the decision and the decree prior to this (event) and
later. That day, the
believers would rejoice,
[030:005] Over the victory granted by Allah. He helps whom He wants.
And He is the most Powerful and the most Merciful.
Note: Thorough analysis on the Key Noble Words in these
Noble Verses are discussed using several encyclopedic Arabic
dictionaries at:
Also, the Romans came back Victorious:
•In
617 A. D. … The Roman Emperor sent an envoy to Khusrau, praying
that he was ready to have peace on any terms, but he replied,
"I shall not give protection to the emperor until he is brought
in chains before me and gives up obedience to his crucified
god and adopts submission to the fire god."
At last, the Emperor became so depressed by defeat that he
decided to leave Constantinople and shift to Carthage (modern,
Tunis). In short, as the British historian Gibbon says,
even seven to eight
years after this prediction of the Quran, the
conditions were such that no one could even imagine that the
Byzantine Empire would ever gain an upper hand over Iran.
Not to speak of gaining domination, no one could hope that the
Empire, under the circumstances, would even survive.
Allah Almighty promised to make the Romans be victorious over the Persians just to please
the Prophet and the Believers. And this Divine
Prophecy and Promise indeed did come to pass after
several years! Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone for making the
Noble Quran be the Perfect and Everlasting Miracle, for us humans, out of
all of His Divine Miracles! And may Allah Almighty send His Peace, Mercy
and Blessings upon our Beloved and Blessed Prophet, Teacher and Role Model,
Muhammad. Ameen.
They thought Jesus was
thinking he was GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Here is how Jesus answered them:
Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV)
3 Some teachers of the
Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!"
4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, "Why
are you thinking such evil things?
5 Is it easier for me to tell this crippled man that his sins are
forgiven or to tell him to get up and walk?
6 But I will show you that the Son of Man has the right to forgive sins
here on earth." So Jesus said to the man, "Get up! Pick up your mat and
go on home."
7 The man got up and went home.
8 When the crowds saw this, they were afraid and praised God for
giving such authority to people.
The context here is that Jesus
was forgiving sins
by Allah Almighty's Permission. Jewish priests in the Old
Testament and John the Baptist were also allowed to forgive sins: Leviticus
4:31, Mark 1:4, Luke 7:30 (those
who rejected the baptism rejected the counsel of GOD). So the
blaspheming part was they thought that he was claiming that he was GOD
Almighty. Jesus responded to this. So trinity remains a lie and Jesus
himself directly refuted it.
Jesus had no power over his
Miracles. They were all given to him by GOD Almighty on limited
occasions. Jesus
thanked GOD Almighty for every Miracle. He gave thanks for
every Miracle: John
11:38-42, Matthew 15:35-37, Luke 22:14-20, Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21, Acts 2:22.
He sought permission from Allah Almighty before performing them.
Otherwise, he was utterly powerless! He had no Miracle except what GOD
Almighty gave him. And they were limited, not infinite. Jesus also
said:
John 5:31 Jesus
told his followers that if he bears witness of himself, then his
testimony would
be false.
In other words, he
would be a liar! [1]
While on the subject of lies
and lying, the following links are important:
John 5:30
30 I
cannot do anything on my own.
The Father sent me, and he is the one who told me how to judge. I judge
with fairness, because I obey him, and I don't just try to please
myself.
Also Jesus could not determine
who gets to sit on his
right and on his left in
Heaven. Only GOD
alone decides this, Jesus said. He also said:
John 5:31 "If I (Jesus) bear withness of myself, then I would be a liar!"
: Jesus said: Thinking I am GOD is an evil thought!
Jesus satan Christ according to Jesus?
Of course Jesus is not the cursed satan! But, Jesus called Peter satan
for telling Jesus that GOD would not allow Jesus to get hurt, crucified
or killed "suffer
many things".
Yet, Jesus begged GOD (Luke 6:12, Matthew 26:36-44, Matthew 16:39, Matthew 6:5-8) to
save him from crucifixion and all hurt. And the Psalms all prophesied
about Jesus will be saved from death and all hurt: Psalm
91, Isaiah
53, Psalms
116, 117, 118.
According to Islam, GOD Almighty honored Jesus' request and saved him.
The gospel of Matthew even says that Pontus Pilot was standing between
two Jesus Barabba (son of his father), one who killed Roman soldiers and
the other is our innocent Messiah. Pilot opposed killed Jesus and
Pilot's wife got sick and had a terrifying dream warning Pilot about the
sin of killing Jesus.
The two
double-Jesus men & Pontus
Pilate in Matthew
27:16-17: [2, 1, html]
So according to
Christians, GOD Almighty DENIED Jesus'
cries. But of course, according to Islam, GOD honored the cries of his
beloved servant and creation, Isa
(Jesus),
and saved him. The OT even prophesied about Jesus and Mary begging GOD
and Praising GOD for saving Jesus: Psalm
91, Isaiah
53, Psalms
116, 117, 118.
Isa (Jesus),
the Islamic Messiah and creation of Allah Almighty, is NOT our Creator:
The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws. Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles. Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong). Where is Jesus' promise?? Totally a false promise!
- Where is Jesus' promise??
- He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. - They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. - 1 Corinthians 7:40 Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit". - Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT. They were never resolved.
- They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
[1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?
Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?
Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings. See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'. Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.
Holy Gambling:
Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers. He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it. Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples. They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices. Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??). Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.
The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]
Paul commanded women to not exposesex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.
Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit (Romans 3:7But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying. 12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling.
Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα(cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things. Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities. Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion. See ample prophecies. Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limitedGeneration, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit
Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name. Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
Eesa is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor
"...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)
Dismal Spiritual Failures:
Let us examine the following:
Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,
Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.
No man is sinless and faultless. The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world. Paul then barfs the following gem:
1 Corinthians 2:15 A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subjectto any man's judgment.
How???
How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment? The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more. Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1] Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians. They are very highly corrupted. Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:? There is also conflict regarding misogyny:
Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limitedGeneration, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
Paul commanded women to not exposesex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.
See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:
Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]قول (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed). See also the 39+ members of trinity. Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:
Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings. See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'. Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.
The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]
Paul commanded women to not exposesex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.
Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]قول (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed). See also the 39+ members of trinity. Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords? Also, thorough refutation to توحيد الربوبية (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
1. "You were perfect from the day you were created". Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD.
He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace. Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.
Holy Gambling:
Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers. He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it. Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples. They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices. Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??). Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.
The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]
Paul commanded women to not exposesex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.
Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13). It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca. Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty. Christianity is pagan. Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday(video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:
See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).
Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]قول (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed). See also the 39+ members of trinity. Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac? GOD's peace be upon them both. Who was the son to be sacrificed? Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.
Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11. Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.
Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample holy group sex that occurs in his circle:
Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.Paul ate his vomit.
Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limitedGeneration, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:
Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]قول (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed). See also the 39+ members of trinity. Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy. If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts? You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body?? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.
Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?
John 11 (KJV)
38 Jesus therefore
again groaning(crying) in
himself cometh to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay upon it.
John 11 (WYC)
38 Therefore Jesus again making noise in himself, came to
the grave. And there was a den, and a stone was laid thereon.
John 11 (KJ21)
38 Jesus therefore
again, groaning(crying) in
Himself, came to the grave. It was a cave, and a stone lay against it.
John 11 (ISV)
38 Groaning(crying) deeply
again, Jesus came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone was lying in
front of it.
John 11 (NABRE)
38 So Jesus, perturbed again,
came to the tomb. It was a cave, and a stone lay across it.
John 11 (NET)
38 Jesus, intensely moved again, came to the tomb. (Now it
was a cave, and a stone was placed across it.)
Begged GOD to hear:
Notice also in John 11:42, Jesus begs GOD to hear him and to resurrect Lazarus:
John 11:42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.
Who resurrected Lazarus? Jesus or GOD? Let me help you get it:
Who created the live snake from a stick? Moses or GOD?
Trinity is a lie from the pits of Hell!! It is exactly like saying it was Moses who created the snake, and that Moses is part of GOD.
Jesus was not putting on a false
show of crying and moaning here. Prior to crying for the
loss of of his friend Lazarus, Jesus had no knowledge that the
stench-smelling decayed man will be resurrected back to life "....the
body decayeth; for he hath been dead four days..." (John
11:39). So Jesus cried
for the loss of his friend. It was all in GOD Almighty's Hand and
Permission, ALONE, to resurrect Lazarus.
Oxymoron Trinity: Jesus
is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet he doesn't know when the Hour
of the resurrection will come (Matthew
24:36)
[1],
and he had to cry, weep and beg
GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life.
And this proves he is our Creator? And how is he exactly The
Resurrection? Could
Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect
or create a fly on
their own? This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to
the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood,
dust and water, and idols. All are helpless.
John 5:30 "I
cannot do anything on my own." (i.e., I am totally powerless. In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!). And
Jesus could not determine (Mark 10:40) who gets to sit on his
right and on his left in
Heaven. Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said. He also said:
John 5:31 "If I (Jesus) bear withness of myself, then I would be a liar!"
: Jesus said: Thinking I am GOD is an evil thought!
Prophet Muhammad's
similar experience:
GOD Almighty loves His
Prophets. Yes, He, the Almighty, puts them sometimes through many
hardships, but He also shows them ample love. Here, GOD Almighty
enabled Jesus, peace be upon him, to resurrect Lazarus because Jesus was
very upset for the loss of his friend.
Prophet Muhammad, peace be
upon him, also had a similar experience. When the Romans lost their
battle with the Persians in year 617 AD, the Prophet was
very upset, because:
1- His wife, Maria the
Coptic, was a Christian who became a Muslim. Her real name is Maria
Shamoun [1].
2- The Christian king of
Abyssinnia, king Ashama ibn Abjar, - also known as King Armah and/or
Ella Tsaham, - and who was also called with the Abyssinians royal title
Al-Najashi in Arabic, - translates as Negas in English, - was the
kindest to the Muslims who migrated to him after they fled the tortures
and persecution of the pagans of Mecca [2].
Allah Almighty Said in the
Glorious Quran:
30:2 غلبت الروم
30:3 في ادنى الارض وهم من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون
30:4 في بضع سنين لله الامر من قبل ومن بعد ويومئذ يفرح المؤمنون
30:5 بنصر الله ينصر من يشاء وهو العزيز الرحيم
[030:002] Romans
have been defeated,
[030:003] In the
lowest land! But after being defeated they will emerge victoriousوهم
من بعد غلبهم سيغلبون,
[030:004] Within
several years! في بضع سنين To
Allah belong the decision and the decree prior to this (event) and
later. That
day, the believers would rejoiceويومئذ
يفرح المؤمنون,
[030:005] Over
the victory granted by Allah. He helps whom He wants. And He is the most
Powerful and the most Merciful.
The Romans indeed fought the
Persians seven years later and defeated them in year 624 AD. This
Divine Promise from Allah Almighty happened just to make the Prophet and
the Believers happy and to rejoice! And no surprise there, the Divine
Promise and Prophecy perfectly happened. Please visit:
This is another powerful proof
that the Quran wasn't a convenient false revelation invented by a
liar. The Glorious Quran is different.
And to every
polytheist trinitarian pagan:
If you believe that
Jesus is our Creator, then I quote Jesus for you:
Why are you thinking such evil
things?
GOD Honored Jesus' Cries:
By the way, similar to Jesus' cry over Lazarus' death,
and Prophet Muhammad's upset over the Romans' defeat, and how Allah
Almighty honored both of the Prophets' requests, it is quite clear that
Allah Almighty also honored Jesus' cries on the night of the crucifixion
to save him. And Allah Almighty indeed did save him from the
crucifixion and death. Please visit:
Matthew 9:3-4, Leviticus 4:31,
Mark 1:4, Luke 7:30, John 11:38-42, Matthew 15:35-37, Luke 22:14-20,
Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21,
Quran
30:2-5
Continuing on with my initial rebuttal...
The sub-sections here are:
1- Their own quote refutes their claim.
2- What is their real motive for making this personal?
Osama Abdallah is not trying to redeem himself because he has destroyed your
lies and absurdities at:
www.answering-christianity.com/is_muhammad_true_prophet.htm. And as to
me getting humiliated in the debate, well, anyone who listens to the debate will
clearly see that I have thoroughly demonstrated, through quoting
ample
quotes from the Bible's theologians' commentaries, that the Bible's
authors are unknown and were not the original Prophets of GOD Almighty. I
also gave many Bible-verses contradicting each others - proving that the Bible
is not the Pure and True Word of GOD Almighty because GOD Almighty's Holy Words
can not contain contradictions in them, let alone
countless contradictions and errors
as we have thoroughly documented on the site. Sam
Shamoun literally remained silent to all of these devastating
charges.
I also demonstrated that a person (Jesus) who ran for his life from King
Herod to Egypt can not be the Creator of the Universe. Sam
Shamoun again remained silent on this charge.
I also thoroughly demonstrated that Shamoun's stories that he quoted were
written 200-300 years after Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) natural
death. Therefore, whether they were good stories or bad stories
(everything is relative to the person's perspective and
point of view), they were nonetheless not accurate either way because of
the major time-gap.
1- Their own quote refutes
their claim:
Ironically, Shamoun and Katz both agree with this in their own
quote below:
"After all, appealing to secondary sources which were
compiled some 100-200 years after the death of Muhammad proves
that the Quran is not a complete record and to accurately understand it one
needs to consult highly questionable sources; materials which were not written
during the time these events allegedly took place."
So not only they're liars for saying that I lost a "humiliating loss" in the
debate, but they are also dumb because their own quotes refute their own points.
Can you find something more
hilarious than this?
To the reader, please visit the following link for clarification:
2- What is their real motive for making this
personal?
Just a few days ago, I have posted a devastating article that further
embarrassed and exposed Sam Shamoun's foul mouth - this time not with actual
graphic and foul quotes
as we have documented countless of them, but posting Sam Shamoun's response to
our documentations and further exposing how stupid (pardon my language) and
low-life this foul-mouthed scum truly is.
Feeling deeply helpless and enraged, the two con artists found no other
choice but to resort to a new lie in a hope to deceive the reader. But
their lies all stop here!
They wrote:
Just recently he has posted
an
article where he seeks to prove that Q. 30:2-4 is not only a genuine
prophecy, but also scientifically correct, thereby vindicating Muhammad.
Here is the text in question:
The Roman Empire has been defeated - in a land close by (fee adna
al-ardi): But they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be
victorious - within a few years. Y. Ali
Is it the Dead Sea?
O. Abdallah insists that the correct translation of adna al-ardi
should be "lowest land on the earth," not "in a land close by." Abdallah feels
that adna means lowest whereas ardi with the definite article
al refers to the entire earth, not just a specific land per se.
My response:
(the definite article issue is dealt with few sections
below)
So not only we're dealing with con artists here, but we're also dealing with
total ignorants in the Arabic language. There is nothing wrong with that
if they both don't speak Arabic, but when they purposely ignore the Noble Verses
that I provided that clearly and indisputably proved my claim, then the matter
becomes quite different. Ignorance is not an excuse that can be given to
them, because the Truth was made manifest to them. It is rather lying and
deceiving the reader and twisting the meanings of the Arabic words and the Noble
Quran is the more proper thing to say about them.
With this said, let us look at the evidence that I have already provided in
the article with one dedicated section for it:
2-
More proofs from more Noble Verses regarding the word "lowest" (ادنى):
In Arabic, when "el" is added to the noun, it makes the entire statement a
generalizing one. Similar to English, when we say THE EARTH, we are
referring to the entire planet. When Allah Almighty Said:
في ادنى الارضand added
"el" to EARTH before the word
ادنى , He clearly and indisputably made the
meaning of
ادنى to be measured against the entire
earth's other areas.
في ادنى الارض LITERALLY means in the
lowest spot/area on earth.
If "el" was not added to earth, then the meaning of the term would be in the
lowest spot of the area. This would limit the
term only to the lands near where the battle took place. But since Allah
Almighty added "EL" to earth, making it THE EARTH in English, then this makes
the term go against the entire earth and not just a limited area.
Here are more proofs that the word
ادنى means lowest from the
Noble Quran:
32:21
ولنذيقنهم من العذاب الادنى دون العذاب الاكبر لعلهم
يرجعون
58:7
الم تر ان الله يعلم مافي السماوات ومافي الارض مايكون من نجوى ثلاثة الا هو رابعهم
ولاخمسة الا هو سادسهم ولاادنى من ذلك ولااكثر الا هو
معهم اين ماكانوا ثم ينبئهم بما عملوا يوم القيامة ان الله بكل شئ عليم
The Noble Verses translate as follows:
Dr.
Munir Munshey (one of
www.answering-christianity.com's authors):
[032:021] Prior to
that greater punishment (in the afterlife), We will also, most
certainly, have them taste (many) smaller
miseries (in this world). Perhaps they will come back (to
their senses).
Sher Ali:
[032:021] And most surely WE will make them taste of the
lesser punishment before the
greater punishment, that they may return to US with repentance.
Pickthall:
[032:021] And verily We make them taste the lower punishment before the greater, that haply they
may return.
[032:021] We let them taste the smaller
retribution (of this world), before they incur the
greater retribution (of the Hereafter), that they may (take a hint and)
reform.
Yusuf
Ali:
[058:007] Seest thou not that God doth know (all) that is in
the heavens and on earth? There is not a secret consultation between
three, but He makes the fourth among them, - Nor between five but He
makes the sixth,- nor between fewer
nor more, but He is in their midst, wheresoever they be: In the end will
He tell them the truth of their conduct, on the Day of Judgment. For God
has full knowledge of all things.
Dr. Munir Munshey (one of
www.answering-christianity.com's authors):
[058:007] Do you not realize that Allah knows everything in the heavens
and on earth? Never is there a secret conference of three, where He is
not the fourth (listening in); nor of five, where He is not the sixth
(listening). Even when there are less
(than three) or more than that number (holding secret talks), He is
(always) with them no matter where they might happen to be. Later, on
the Day of Judgment, He will tell them everything they had done! Indeed,
Allah knows every single thing!
Sher Ali:
[058:007] Seest thou not that ALLAH knows all that is in the heavens
and all that is in the earth ? There is no secret counsel of three, but
HE is their fourth, nor of five but HE is their sixth,
nor of less than that, nor of more,
but HE is with them wheresoever they may be. Then on the Day of
Resurrection HE will inform them of what they did. Surely, ALLAH has
full knowledge of all things.
Shakir:
[058:007] Do you not see that Allah knows whatever is in the heavens
and whatever is in the earth? Nowhere is there a secret counsel between
three persons but He is the fourth of them, nor (between) five but He is
the sixth of them, nor less than that
nor more but He is with them wheresoever they are; then He will inform
them of what they did on the day of resurrection: surely Allah is
Cognizant of all things.
Pickthall:
[058:007] Hast thou not seen that Allah knoweth all that is in the
heavens and all that is in the earth ? There is no secret conference of
three but He is their fourth, nor of five but He is their sixth,
nor of less than that or more
but He is with them wheresoever they may be; and afterward, on the Day
of Resurrection, He will inform them of what they did. Lo! Allah is
Knower of all things.
Sale:
[058:007] Dost thou not perceive that God knoweth whatever is in heaven
and in earth? There is no private discourse among three persons, but He
is the fourth of them; nor among five, but He is the sixth of them;
neither among a smaller number
than this, nor a larger, but He is with them; wheresoever they be: And
He will declare unto them that which they have done, on the day of
resurrection; for God knoweth all things.
Muhammad Al-Hilali & Muhsin Khan:
[058:007] Have you not seen that Allah knows whatsoever is in the
heavens and whatsoever is on the earth? There is no Najwa (secret
counsel) of three, but He is their fourth (with His Knowledge, while He
Himself is over the Throne, over the seventh heaven), nor of five but He
is their sixth (with His Knowledge), not of
less than that or more, but He is with them (with His
Knowledge) wheresoever they may be; and afterwards on the Day of
Resurrection, He will inform them of what they did. Verily, Allah is the
All-Knower of everything.
Palmer:
[058:007] Dost thou not see that God knows what is in the heavens and
what is in the earth? and that there cannot be a privy discourse of
three but He makes the fourth? nor of five but He makes the sixth?
nor less than that nor more,
but that He is with them wheresoe'er they be? then He will inform them
of what they have done upon the resurrection day; verily, God all things
doth know!
Arberry:
[058:007] God has numbered it, and they have forgotten it. God is
witness over everything. Hast thou not seen that God knows whatsoever is
in the heavens, and whatsoever is in the earth? Three men conspire not
secretly together, but He is the fourth of them, neither five men, but
He is the sixth of them, neither fewer than
that, neither more, but He is with them, wherever they
may be; then He shall tell them what they have done, on the Day of
Resurrection. Surely God has knowledge of everything.
[058:007] Do you not realize that GOD knows everything in the heavens
and everything on earth? No three people can conspire secretly without
Him being their fourth, nor five without Him being the sixth,
nor less than that, nor more,
without Him being there with them wherever they may be. Then, on the Day
of Resurrection, He will inform them of everything they had done. GOD is
fully aware of all things.
Rodwell:
[058:007] Dost thou not see that God knoweth all that is in the Heavens
and all that is in the Earth? Three persons speak not privately
together, but He is their fourth; nor five, but He is their sixth;
nor fewer nor more, but
wherever they be He is with them. Then on the day of resurrection He
will tell them of their deeds: for God knoweth all things.
They wrote:
In light of these assertions Abdallah argues that this so-called prophecy is
an example of the Quran’s prescience in that it correctly identifies the Dead
Sea as the lowest point of the earth. Abdallah translates a passage from a book
which identifies the unnamed land mentioned in the Quran as the Dead Sea and
also provides several sources which affirm that this is in fact the lowest spot
on the earth:
After the (scientists') geological sweeping of the
planet earth, the scientists discovered that the lowest land-area on earth
is the area of the dead sea, and the dead sea's water reduces approximately
380 meters. And when the Romans were defeated IN THIS LAND, the following
Noble Verses were revealed:
O. Abdallah is trying to pull a fast one over his readers since he
deceptively claims that the land that the Quran is referring to is actually the
Dead Sea. The fact is that the Quran never mentions the name of the land and
none of the Muslim scholars that we consulted believed that it refers to the
Dead Sea. Quotations from these scholars will be given later.
Moreover, even though there are certain Islamic sources that do mention
Jerusalem, this doesn’t help Abdallah since, unlike the Dead Sea, it is way
above sea level and is definitely not the lowest part of the earth! For
instance, Abdallah cites a few sources which say that the Dead Sea is roughly
1000 (or approximately 1,373) feet below sea level. Jerusalem, however, is
roughly 2500 feet ABOVE sea level (Wikipedia)!
Since Abdallah claims that the Arabic phrase, fee adna al-ardi,
literally means "in the lowest land on earth" he has basically proven that
Muhammad was a false prophet since he mistakenly assumed that Jerusalem was the
lowest part of the earth!
In his written debate with Nadir Ahmed, the former Muslim turned agnostic Ali
Sina used the same argument against a similar claim:
Mr. Ahmed claims that the word near (Adna) can also be translated as
lower and hence the above could be read: The Roman Empire was defeated in
the lowest land ... Then Mr. Ahmad claims that since the Black Sea is it the
lowest point on earth (1300 ft bellow sea level) then Muhammad has said
something that no one could have known.
This is of course wishful thinking of a deluded believer and the
absurdity of that is self-evident. The Romans were not defeated in the Red
Sea but in Jerusalem and Jerusalem is above sea level. If we had to take Mr.
Ahmed for his word and disregard the obvious meaning of the word, this verse
would have become yet another blunder of Muhammad. However all the
interpreters of the Quran have translated the verse correctly. If Muhammad
really wanted to impress his readers he could have easily said that the Red
Sea is the lowest land on Earth. Note that the verse is mentioning land and
not sea. Muhammad is talking about the Jerusalem and not about the Red Sea.
(Source)
Although Sina mistakenly refers to the Black and Red Seas, his point still
applies to Abdallah’s argument.
Hence, what Abdallah thought was a definite proof for Muhammad’s prophethood
ends up being a strong argument against him, serving to expose him as a false
prophet! Wonderful work, Mr. Abdallah, we highly encourage you to keep it up.
With the foregoing behind us, we proceed to unpack some additional problems
with Abdallah’s points.
My response:
The sub-sections here are:
1- Allah Almighty's use of "fi" (in) and not
"ala" (on).
2- Proofs that the northern part of the Middle East is the lowest spot on
earth!
My quote above (in dark green) was a translation
of a quote taken from Dr. Zaghlool Al-Naggar's web site - a world-wide renowned
Geologist and is considered one of the world's top 7 Geologist, which stated
that the lands around the dead sea are considered the lowest in terms of
altitude on earth. It is in these lands the Romans were defeated. So
when Allah Almighty Says "fee adna al-ard," and we 1500 years ago find out that
the land is indeed the lowest land on earth, then we are left with no choice but
to accept this great Divine Statement as a Scientific Notion
as many
others exist in the Noble Quran which we have documented only some of
them on our web site.
So if I only prove that the area of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Palestine is,
or does contain, the lowest spot on earth, then my argument is done and your
objection is refuted.
1- Allah Almighty's use of
"fi" (in) and not "ala" (on):
The fact that Allah Almighty used the word "in" and not "on," proves that He
spoke about a region and not an exact precise spot. Allah Almighty Noble
Verses 30:2-3 talked about the region/area that the battle took place in as the
lowest spot on earth.
The following Noble Verses clearly prove that "fi" (in) in the Noble Quran
encompasses a bigger region:
1- 2:29
هو الذي خلق لكم مافي الارض جميعا ثم
استوى الى السماء فسواهن سبع سماوات وهو بكل شئ عليم
"It is He Who hath created for you all things
that are on earth; Moreover His design comprehended the heavens, for He
gave order and perfection to the seven firmaments; and of all things He hath
perfect knowledge. (The Noble Quran, 2:29)"
This Noble Verse is talking about everything that exists on and inside mother
earth was created by Allah Almighty. Allah Almighty used the word "fi" in
reference to everything, especially the "everything" that people 1500 years ago
saw with their eyes, which were above earth.
2- 2:30
واذ قال ربك للملائكة اني جاعل في الارض خليفة
قالوا اتجعل فيها من يفسد فيها ويسفك الدماء ونحن نسبح بحمدك ونقدس لك قال اني اعلم
مالاتعلمون
"Behold, thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said: "Wilt Thou place therein one who
will make mischief therein and shed blood?- whilst we do celebrate Thy praises
and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not."
(The Noble Quran, 2:30)"
This Noble Verse is talking about Allah Almighty creating a ruler that will
rule everything on earth. The use of "fi" in this Noble Verse clearly
shows that He, the Almighty, referred to the entire earth and not just little
parts of it here and there.
3- 2:11
واذا قيل لهم لاتفسدوا في الارض قالوا
انما نحن مصلحون
"And when it is said to them, `Create not disorder in the earth,' they say `We are only promoters of peace.'
(The Noble Quran, 2:11)"
4- 2:27
الذين ينقضون عهد الله من بعد ميثاقه ويقطعون ماامر الله به ان يوصل ويفسدون
في الارض اولئك هم الخاسرون
"Who breaks the covenant of ALLAH after having
established it, and cut asunder what ALLAH has bidden to be joined, and create
disorder in the earth; it is these that are the losers.
(The Noble Quran, 2:27)"
Earth in the Noble Quran is both singular and plural.
"fi al-ard" means in the lands. In other
words, do not go spread evil and sin to every nation and/or tribe that you run
into.
And so on....
2- Proofs that the
northern part of the Middle
East is the lowest spot on earth!
As I have clearly proven above, when Allah Almighty said
في ادنى الارض , He Said:
"in the lowest of the earth" --OR--
"in the lowest part on earth" in Noble Verses
30:2-3.
Let us now look at the geological evidence that proves that the northern part
of the Middle East is indeed the lowest part on earth:
(This link was forwarded to me by brother
Mahir; may Allah Almighty always be
pleased with him)
In Islam
In
Islamic
tradition,
the Dead Sea was about the land in which the
Prophet Lut
(Lot
in the Hebrew scriptures) lived. The people of the towns and
cities were wicked for their acts of
homosexuality,
raping men, robbery and murder and had therefore been given a
punishment for such deeds. The punishment arrived when
angels in
the form of beautiful men were sent down by
God as
guests for Lut to host. When Lut's people heard of the men, they
rushed to Lut's house to misbehave and rape the men. This was
their final test which they failed so the angel Gabriel raised
the land where the prophet's people lived, tipped it upside down
and threw it back on earth, causing the ground near the impact
to cave in. Thus, the lowest land on
Earth was formed because of this punishment.
The non-believers (in the monotheism doctrine) were destroyed
and the followers were saved. According to some interpretations,
the
sura of
ar-Rum of
the
Quran
refers to the Dead Sea as the lowest place on Earth.[13][14]
Bedouin
tribes
have continuously lived in this area, and more recently
explorers and scientists arrived to analyze the minerals and
conduct research into the unique climate.
Tourism
in the region has been developed since the 1960s.
Recent
History
The
Dead Sea Scrolls
were found in caves at
Qumran at
the Dead Sea. The world's lowest road,
Highway 90,
runs along the Israeli and West Bank shores of the Dead Sea
at
393 m (1,289 ft) below sea level.
There are also health spas and hot
springs along the shore, besides the unique water of the Dead
Sea itself. A
golf course
named for
Sodom and Gomorrah
was built by the British at
Kalia on
the northern shore. The first major hotels were built in Israel,
first at nearby
Arad, and
since the 1960s at the
Neve Zohar
resort complex. The
Jordanian
side has seen increasing development in recent years. For
example, three international franchises have opened
seaside resort
hotels
near the
King Hussein Bin Talal Convention Center
along the eastern coast of the Dead Sea.
[15]
Another miraculous aspect of the Qur'an is its prediction of
future events, all of which have so far been fulfilled. This is
one of the proofs that the Qur'an is the Word of Allah. In the
following pages, we will dwell on some of these events.
THE VICTORY OF BYZANTIUM
An astonishing prediction is found in the first verses of
Surat ar-Rum, which refers to the Byzantine Empire, the eastern
part of the later Roman Empire: The Byzantine Empire, which had
met with a great defeat, would soon gain victory.
Alif, Lam, Mim. The Romans have been
defeated in the lowest land, but after their defeat they
will be victorious within three to nine years. The
affair is Allah's from beginning to end. On that day, the
believers will rejoice. (Qur'an, 30:1-4)
These verses were revealed around 620, almost 7 years after
the idolatrous Persians had severely defeated Christian
Byzantium in 613-14. In fact, Byzantium had suffered such heavy
losses that it seemed impossible for it even to survive, let
alone be victorious again. Following their defeat of the
Byzantines at Antioch in 613, the Persians seized control of
Damascus, Cilicia, Tarsus, Armenia, and Jerusalem. The loss of
Jerusalem in 614 was particularly traumatic for the Byzantines,
for the Church of the Holy Sepulchre was destroyed and the
Persians seized the "True Cross," the symbol of Christianity.174
In addition, the Avars, Slavs, and Lombards also were posing
serious threats to the Byzantine Empire. The Avars had reached
as far as the walls of Constantinople. Emperor Heraclius ordered
the gold and silver in churches to be melted and turned into
money in order to meet the army's expenses. When this proved
insufficient, bronze statues were melted down in order to mint
more money. Many governors had revolted against Heraclius, and
Byzantium was on the point of collapse.175
Mesopotamia, Cilicia, Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Armenia, which
had earlier belonged to Byzantium, were invaded by the
idolatrous Persians.176
The Dead Sea basin where Byzantium was defeated by
Persians. Above is a satellite photograph of the
region. The Lake of Lut region, which is the lowest
region of the world, is 395 meter below the sea
level.
In short, everyone was expecting Byzantium to be destroyed.
But during this time, the first verses of Surat ar-Rum were
revealed, announcing that Byzantium would triumph in 3 to 9
years. This predicted victory seemed so impossible that the Arab
polytheists thought it would never come true.
On top a satellite photograph of the Dead Sea basin.
The altitude of the Dead Sea could only be
determined with modern measurement techniques. These
measurements led to the discovery that this region
is the "lowest region on the Earth."
Like all the other predictions in the Qur'an, however, this
one also came true. In 622, Heraclius gained a number of
victories over the Persians and conquered Armenia.177
In December 627, the two empires fought a decisive battle at
Nineveh, some 50 kilometres east of the Tigris river, near
Baghdad. This time too, the Byzantine army defeated the
Persians. A few months later, the Persians had to sue for peace
with Byzantium, which obliged them to return the territories
they had taken from it.178
The Byzantine victory was completed when Emperor Heraclius
defeated the Persian ruler Khosrow II in 630, recaptured
Jerusalem, and regained the "True Cross" for the Church of the
Holy Sepulchre.179
In the end, "the victory of the Romans" proclaimed by Allah in
the Qur'an miraculously came true within the verses' stated
"three to nine years" time frame.
Another miracle revealed in these verses is the announcement
of a geographical fact that could not have been known by anyone
at that time: that the Romans had been defeated in the lowest
region of Earth. This Arabic expression adna al-Ard is
interpreted as "a nearby place" in many translations. However,
this is not the literal meaning, but rather a figurative
interpretation. The word adna, derived from the word
dani (low), means “the lowest”. The word ard
means “the world.” Therefore, adna al-ard means "the
lowest place on Earth."
Some interpreters of the Qur'an, considering the closeness of
the region in question to the Arabs, prefer the "closest"
meaning of the word. However, the actual meaning indicates a
very important geological fact: The Dead Sea, one of the regions
in which the Byzantines were defeated in 613-14, is the lowest
region on Earth.180
As stated earlier, for Christian Byzantium, the loss of the
True Cross was the heaviest blow in that defeat in Jerusalem,
located near the shores of the Dead Sea.
The Byzantines and the Persians actually fought at the Dead
Sea basin, which is situated at the intersection point of the
lands belonging to Syria, Palestine, and Jordan. At 399 meters
below sea level, the Dead Sea is the "lowest" place on Earth's
surface.181
However, as only modern measuring methods and equipment can
prove this fact, it would have been impossible for anyone living
at that time to realise this truth. Yet, the Qur'an states
clearly that this region was the "lowest land"
on Earth and thereby provides further evidence that it is the
Word of Allah.
174. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclius.
175. Warren Treadgold, A History of the Byzantine State and
Society (Palo Alto, CA: Stanford University Press: 1997),
287-99.
176. Ibid.
177. http://fstav.freeservers.com/emperors/heraclius.html.
178. Treadgold, A History, 287-99.
179. http://web.genie.it/utenti/i/inanna/livello2-i/mediterraneo-1-i.htm;
http://impearls.blogspot.com/2003_12_07_impearls_archive.html;
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclius.
180. “The Lowest Part on the Face of the
Earth,”www.beconvinced.com/science/QURANLOWEST.htm.
181. “Dead Sea,” World Book Encyclopedia, 2003, Contributor:
Bernard Reich, Ph.D., Professor of Political Science and
International Affairs, George Washington University
".....When
we investigated the lowest part of the earth, we found that it was exactly the
same spot that witnessed the battle in which the Romans were defeated. When we
informed Professor Palmer about this, he contested saying that there were many
other areas, which are lower than the one referred to in the Qur'anic verse. He
gave examples and names of other areas in Europe and in the United States. We
assured him that our information was verified and correct. He had with him a
topographical globe that showed elevations and depressions.
He said that it would be easy with that globe to ascertain which was the lowest
spot on earth. He turned the globe with his hands and focused his sign on the
area near Jerusalem. To his astonishment, there was a small arrow sticking
out towards that area with words: "the lowest part on the face of the earth."
Professor Palmer was quick to concede that our information was correct. He
proceeded to speak, as you now see him with the globe, saying that this was
actually the lowest part of the earth....."
The lowest spot on earth
417 meters (1,373 feet) below sea level.
The sunset touching distant hills with ribbons of fire
across the water of the Dead Sea brings a sense of unreality to
culminate a day's visit to the lowest spot on earth, some 400
meters (1000 feet) below sea level.
On the shore of the historic Dead Sea, at the lowest spot on earth,
stands the unique 5 star Mövenpick Resort & Spa. The resort`s close-to-nature,
traditional stone village ambience enhances a world of enchantment.
The Dead Sea is the
lowest spot on earth. It is also the richest in concentrated natural
minerals, making the area a world - renowned natural health spa. The ancient
world knew of the area's wondrous curative properties and throughout the ages
people from the four corners of the earth have enjoyed its benefits.
At
400 meters (1300 ft.) below sea level, it is the lowest spot on earth.
Part of the 6000km Great African Rift Valley. 55km long by 17.5km. at its widest
point, with a depth of up to 400m., this inland sea is flanked by the Judean
Hills to the west and by the Mountains of Moab in Jordan to the east. Although
fed by rivers in Israel and Jordan, as well as springs and winter floods, no
water flows out of the Dead Sea. Instead it evaporates in the high temperatures,
twice the amount of water entering, leaving one of the world's greatest
concentrations of minerals, which supplies vast amounts of raw chemicals for
industry, agriculture and medicine; these are extracted, processed and exported
all over the world by the Dead Sea Works at Sedom.
Let us now look at the geological evidence that proves that the northern part
of the Middle East is indeed the lowest part on earth:
Encyclopedia Article
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The continental mainland
stretches from the southern end of the
Malay Peninsula to
Cape Chelyuskin in
Siberia. Its westernmost point is Cape Baba in northwestern Turkey, and its
easternmost point is
Cape Dezhnyov in
northeastern Siberia. The continent’s greatest width from east to west is 8,500
km (5,300 mi). The lowest and highest points on the Earth’s surface are in
Asia, namely, the SHORE of the
Dead Sea(408
m/1,340 ft below sea level in 1996) and
Mount Everest (8,850
m/29,035 ft above sea level).
Lake
Kinneret is so-called because it is shaped like a harp, the name Kinneret
originates from the word ‘kinnor’ which means harp. The lake is also known on
modern maps as Lake Galilee or Lake Tiberius. The name Galilee derives from
where it is located.
The Kinneret supplies more than 30% of Israel's fresh
water. It is the lowest fresh water lake in the world! It is a beautiful lake
and Israel’s largest reservoir. In the hot summer you can see thousands of
people enjoying themselves on the Kinneret. During the winter time, people like
to try the hot springs in the town of Tiberias.
Lake Kinneret is Israel's largest
fresh water lake, approximately 53 kilometers (33 miles) in circumference, about
21km (13 miles) long and 13km (8 miles) wide. At 213 meters below sea level, it
is the lowest fresh water lake on Earth and the second lowest point in the
world after the Dead Sea. It is not a sea by normal definition; it is
called a sea due to tradition. LakeKinneret provides approximately 50% of the drinking water
and 25% of all water for , so the water quality, and hence, the water
circulation, is of the utmost importance.
.............. The lowest point on earth is located on the
SHORE of the Dead Sea, on the Israel-Jordan border.
The altitude of this point ranges from 394 meters (1,292 ft.) to 400 meters
(1,312 ft.) below sea level. Time is the reason this value has changed. With the
low replenishment rate, extreme heat, and high evaporation, the level of the
Dead Sea is lowering at a rate of approximately 1 meter every 10 years.
The people of Lut rejected (his) warning. We sent against
them a violent Tornado with showers of stones, (which
destroyed them), except Lut's household: them We delivered
by early Dawn,- As a Grace from Us: thus do We reward those
who give thanks. And (Lut) did warn them of Our Punishment,
but they disputed about the Warning. (Surat al-Qamar:,
33-36)
Lut lived at the same time as Ibrahim. The Old
Testament says that Lut was Ibrahim's nephew and that they
travelled some distance together in Ibrahim's long journeys.
Lut was sent as a messenger to one of Ibrahim's
neighbouring communities. These people, as the Qur'an tells us,
practiced a perversion unknown to the world up to then, namely
sodomy. When Lut told them to give up this perversion and
brought them Allah's warning, they denied him, refused his
prophethood, and carried on with their perversion. In the end,
these people were destroyed by a dreadful disaster.
The city where Lut resided is referred to as
Sodom in the Old Testament. Being situated at the north of the
Red Sea, this community is understood to have been destroyed
just as it is written in the Qur'an. Archaeological studies
reveal that the city is located in the area of the Dead Sea
which stretches along the Israel-Jordan border.
Before examining the remains of this disaster,
let's see why the people of Lut were punished in this fashion.
The Qur'an tells how Lut warned his people and what they said in
reply;
The people of Lut rejected the messengers. Behold, their
brother Lut said to them: "Will ye not fear (Allah)? I am to
you a messenger worthy of all trust. So fear Allah and obey
me. No reward do I ask of you for it: my reward is only from
the lord of the Worlds. Of all the creatures in the world,
will ye approach males, And leave those whom Allah has
created for you to be your mates? Nay, ye are a people
transgressing (all limits)!" They said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt
assuredly be cast out!" He said: "I do detest your doings." (Surat
ash-Shuara: 160-168)
The people of Lut threatened him in response to
his inviting them to the right way. His people detested him
because of his showing them the right way, and wanted to banish
both him and the other believers beside him. In other verses,
the event is told as follows;
We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit
lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed
before you? For ye practise your lusts on men in preference
to women : ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond
bounds." And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive
them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be
clean and pure!" (Surat al-Araf: 80-82)
Lut called his people to an obvious truth and
warned them explicitly, but his people did not heed any warnings
whatsoever and continued to reject Lut and to deny the penalty
of which he told them.
And (remember) Lut: behold, he said to his people: "Ye do
commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever)
committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off
the highway?- and practise wickedness (even) in your
councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they
said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the
truth." (Surat al-Ankaboot: 28-29)
Receiving the above answer from his people, Lut
asked for the help of Allah,
He said: "O my Lord! help Thou me against people who do
mischief!" (Surat al-Ankaboot: 30)
"O my Lord! deliver me and my family from such things
as they do!" (Surat ash-Shuara: 169)
Upon Lut's prayer, Allah sent two angels in the
form of men. These angels visited Ibrahim before coming to Lut.
Giving Ibrahim the good news that his wife would give birth to
an infant, the messengers explained the reason of their being
sent: the insolent people of Lut were to be destroyed.
(Ibrahim) said: "And what, O ye Messengers, is your
errand (now)?" They said, "We have been sent to a people
(deep) in sin; To bring on, on them, (a shower of) stones of
clay (brimstone), Marked as from thy Lord for those who
trespass beyond bounds." (Surat adh-Dhariyat: 31-34)
Excepting the adherents of Lut: them we are certainly
(charged) to save (from harm),- All - Except his wife, who,
We have ascertained, will be among those who will lag
behind. (Surat al-Hijr: 59-60)
After leaving Ibrahim's company, the angels, who
were sent as messengers, came to Lut. Not having met the
messengers before, Lut first became anxious, but then calmed
down after talking to them;
When Our messengers came to Lut, he was grieved on their
account and felt himself powerless (to protect) them. He
said: "This is a distressful day." (Surah Hud: 77)
He said: "Ye appear to be uncommon folk." They said:
"Yea, we have come to thee to accomplish that of which they
doubt. We have brought to thee that which is inevitably due,
and assuredly we tell the truth. Then travel by night with
thy household, when a portion of the night (yet remains),
and do thou bring up the rear: let no one amongst you look
back, but pass on whither ye are ordered." And We made known
this decree to him, that the last remnants of those
(sinners) should be cut off by the morning. (Surat
al-Hijr: 62-66)
Meanwhile, his people had learned that Lut had
visitors. They did not hesitate to approach these visitors
perversely as they had approached others before. They encircled
the house. Being afraid for his visitors, Lut addressed his
people as follows;
Lut said: "These are my guests: disgrace me not:
But fear Allah, and shame me not." (Surat al-Hijr: 68-69)
The people of Lut retorted;
They said: "Did we not forbid thee (to speak) for
all and sundry?" (Surat al-Hijr: 70)
Thinking that he and his visitors subjected to evil
treatment, Lut said:
"Would that I had power to suppress you or that I
could betake myself to some powerful support." (Surah Hud: 80)
His "visitors" reminded him that they were the
messengers of Allah and said;
(The Messengers) said: "O Lut! We are Messengers from thy
Lord! By no means shall they reach thee! now travel with thy
family while yet a part of the night remains, and let not any of
you look back: but thy wife (will remain behind): To her will
happen what happens to the people. Morning is their time
appointed: Is not the morning nigh?" (Surah Hud: 81)
When the perversity of the city people reached its
fullest extent, Allah saved Lut by means of the angels. In the
morning, his people were destroyed by the disaster of which Lut had
informed them in advance.
And they even sought to snatch away his guests from him, but
We blinded their eyes. (They heard:) "Now taste ye My Wrath and
My Warning." Early on the morrow an abiding Punishment seized
them: (Surat al-Qamar: 37-38)
The verses describe the destruction of this people
as follows;
But the (mighty) Blast overtook them before morning, And We
turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them
brimstones hard as baked clay. Behold! in this are Signs for
those who by tokens do understand. And the (cities were) right
on the high-road. (Surat al-Hijr: 73-76)
When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside
down, and rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay,
spread, layer on layer,-Marked as from thy Lord: Nor are they
ever far from those who do wrong! (Surah Hud: 82-83)
But the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them
a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who
were admonished (but heeded not)! : Verily in this is a Sign:
but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord is He, the
Exalted in Might, Most Merciful. (Surat ash-Shuara: 172-175)
When the people were destroyed, only Lut and the
believers, who were only as many as one "household", were saved.
Lut's wife did not believe either and she was also destroyed.
We also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit
lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed before
you? For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women : ye
are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds." And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive
them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean
and pure!" But we saved him and his family, except his wife: she was of
those who legged behind. And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see
what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime!
(Surat al-Araf: 80-84)
Thus, Prophet Lut was saved along with the believers
and his family with the exception of his wife. As described in the
Old Testament, he emigrated with Ibrahim. As for the perverted
people, they were destroyed and their dwellings were razed to the
ground.
The 82nd verse of Surah Hud, clearly states the
kind of the disaster that befell the people of Lut. "When Our
Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down
on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer"
The statement of "turning (the cities) upside down"
implies that the region was totally destroyed by a violent
earthquake. Accordingly, The Lake of Lut, where the destruction took
place, bears "obvious" evidence of such a disaster.
We quote German archaeologist Werner Keller as
follows;
Together with the base of this mighty fissure, which runs
precisely through this area, the Vale of Siddim, including Sodom
and Gomorrah, plunged one day into the abyss. Their destruction
came about through a great earthquake which was probably
accompanied by explosions, lightning, issue of natural gas and
general conflagration.
As a matter of fact, the Lake of Lut, or the Dead
Sea as it is otherwise known, is located right on the top of an
active seismic region, that is, an earthquake zone:
The base of the dead sea is located with a tectonic rooted
downfall. This valley is located in a tension stretching between
the Taberiye Lake in the north, and mid of Arabah Valley in the
south.
The event was expressed as "we rained down on
them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer" in
the last part of the verse. This is in all probability meant to be
the volcanic explosion that took place on the banks of the Lake of
Lut, and because of which the rocks and stones that erupted were in
a "baked form". (The same event is related in the 173rd verse
of Surat ash-Shuara as "We rained down on them a shower (of
brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who were admonished
(but heeded not)!")
In relation to this subject, Werner Keller writes;
The subsidence released volcanic forces that had been lying
dormant deep down along the whole length of the fracture. In the
upper valley of the Jordan near Bashan there are still towering
craters of extinct volcanoes; great stretches of lava and deep
layers of basalt have been deposited on the limestone surface.
A satellite photograph of the region where the people
of Lut lived.
These lava and basalt layers constitute the greatest
evidence that a volcanic explosion and earthquake had once taken
place here. The catastrophe depicted in the following expression as
"we rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer
on layer" in the Qur'an most probably points to this volcanic
explosion, and Allah knows best. The expression "When Our Decree
issued, We turned (the cities) upside down" which occurs in the same
verse, must be referring to the earthquake which caused volcanoes to
erupt over the surface of the earth with devastating impact, and to
the fissures and debris brought by it, and only Allah knows the
truth of it.
The "obvious signs" conveyed by the Lake of Lut are
indeed very interesting. In general, the events which are related in
the Qur'an take place in the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula and
Egypt. Right in the middle of these lands, is the Lake of Lut. The
Lake of Lut, as well as the incidents that have taken place around
it, deserves attention geologically. The Lake is approximately 400
meters below the surface of the Mediterranean. Since the deepest
place in the Lake is 400 meters, the bottom of the Lake is 800
meters below the surface of the Mediterranean.
The Lake of Lut, or Dead Sea as
differently called.
This is the lowest point on the earth.
In other areas which are lower than sea level, the depth
is at most 100 meters. Another property of the Lake of
Lut is that the salt content of its water is very high,
the density being nearly 30 %. Because of this, no
living organism, such as fish or moss, can survive in
this lake. This is why the Lake of Lut is called the
"Dead Sea" in Western literature.
The incident of Lut's people, which is recounted in
the Qur'an, occurred around 1800 B.C. according to estimates. Based
on his archaeological and geological researches, the German
researcher Werner Keller noted that the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah
were in fact located in the Siddim Valley which was the region at
the furthers and lowest end of the Lake of Lut, and that there were
once big and widely inhabited sites in those regions.
The most interesting structural characteristic of
the Lake of Lut is an evidence showing how the disaster incidence
recounted in the Qur'an took place;
On the eastern shore of the Dead Sea the peninsula of
el-Lisan protrudes like a tongue far into the water. El-Lisan
means "the tongue" in Arabic. Unseen from the land the ground
falls away here under the surface of the water at a prodigious
angle, dividing the sea into two parts. To the right of the
peninsula the ground slopes sharply down to a depth of 1200
feet. On the left of the peninsula the water remains remarkably
shallow. Soundings taken in the last few years established
depths of only fifty to sixty feet. That extraordinary shallow
part of the Dead Sea, from the peninsula el-Lisan to the
southernmost tip, was the Vale of Siddim.
Photographs of the Lake of Lut taken from satellite.
Werner Keller noted that this shallow part, which
was discovered to have formed subsequently, was the outcome of the
aforementioned earthquake and the massive collapse this earthquake
had caused. This was the place where Sodom and Gomorrah were
situated, that is, where Lut's people lived.
Once, it was possible to cross this region by
walking. However, now, the Vale of Siddim, where Sodom and Gomorrah
were once situated, is covered by the flat surface of the lower part
of the Dead Sea. The collapse of the base as a result of the
dreadful catastrophe that came to pass in the beginning of the 2nd.
millennium B.C., caused salt water from the north to flow into this
recently formed cavity and filled the basin with salty water.
The traces of the Lake of Lut are visible… When one
takes a rowing boat across the Lake of Lut to the southernmost
point, if the sun is shining in the right direction, one sees
something quite fantastic. Some distance from the shore and clearly
visible under the surface of the water, there are the outlines of
the forests which the extraordinarily high salt content of the Dead
Sea preserved.
An illustration showing the volcanic
eruption and the collapse that followed it, which caused
the whole people to disappear.
The trunks and roots in the shimmering
green water are very ancient. The Siddim valley, where
these trees were once in blossom green foliage covered
their twigs and branches, was one of the most beautiful
locations in the region.
The mechanical aspect of the disaster
that befell people of Lut is revealed by the researches
of the geologists. These reveal that the earthquake
which destroyed the people of Lut, came about in
consequence of quite a long crack in the earth (a fault
line), along the 190 kilometres distance making up the
bed of the River Sheri'at. River Sheri'at makes a fall
of 180 meters in total. Both this and the fact that the
Lake of Lut is 400 metres below sea level are two
important pieces of evidence showing that an enormous
geological event has taken place here.
The interesting structure of River of
Sheri'at and the Lake of Lut make up only a small part
of the crack or split passing from this region of the
earth. The condition and length of this crack have only
recently been discovered.
The fault starts from the outskirts of
Mount Taurus, stretches to the southern shores of the
Lake of Lut and proceeds over the Arabian desert to the
Gulf of Aqaba and continues across the Red Sea, ending
up in Africa. Along the length of it, strong volcanic
activities are observed. Black basalt and lava exist in
the Galilee Mountains in Israel, high plain regions of
Jordan, the Gulf of Aqaba and other areas nearby.
All these remains and geographical
evidences show that a catastrophic geological event took
place in the Lake of Lut. Werner Keller writes,
Together with the base of this
mighty fissure, which runs precisely through this
area, the Vale of Siddim, including Sodom and
Gomorrah, plunged one day into the abyss. Their
destruction came about through a great earthquake
which was probably accompanied by explosions,
lightning, issue of natural gas and general
conflagration. The subsidence released volcanic
forces that had been lying dormant deep down along
the whole length of the fracture. In the upper
valley of the Jordan near Bashan there are still
towering craters of extinct volcanoes; great
stretches of lava and deep layers of basalt have
been deposited on the limestone surface.
(5)
Overhead view of the
mountains around the Lake of Lut.
National Geographic makes the following comment on
December 1957;
The mount of Sodom, a barren wasteland, rises sharply above
the dead sea. No one has ever found the destroyed cities of
Sodom and Gomorrah, but scholars believe that they stood in the
Vale of Siddim across from these cliffs. Possibly flood waters
of the Dead Sea engulfed them following an earthquake.
The Qur'an tells us in the following verses that
there is no change in Allah's laws;
They swore their strongest oaths by Allah that if a warner
came to them, they would follow his guidance better than any
(other) of the Peoples: But when a warner came to them, it has
only increased their flight (from righteousness),- On account of
their arrogance in the land and their plotting of Evil, but the
plotting of Evil will hem in only the authors thereof. Now are
they but looking for the way the ancients were dealt with? But
no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning
off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing). (Surat
al-Fatir: 42-43)
Above is a fresco representing the
luxury and prosperity of the city of Pompeii before the
disaster. Down are petrified corpses unearthed in
excavations made in Pompeii.
Yes, "no change will be found in Allah's
way (rules)". Everybody, who stands against His laws and
rebels against Him, is subject to the same divine law.
Pompeii, the symbol of the degeneration of the Roman
Empire, was also involved in sexual perversity. Its end
was similar to that of the people of Lut.
The destruction of Pompeii came by means
of the eruption of the volcano Vesuvius.
The volcano Vesuvius is the symbol of Italy,
primarily the city of Naples. Remaining silent for the
last two millennia, Vesuvius is named the "Mountain of
Warning". It is not without cause that Vesuvius is known
as such. The disaster that befell Sodom and Gomorrah is
very similar to the disaster that destroyed Pompeii.
To the right of Vesuvius lies Naples and to the east
lies Pompeii. The lava and ash of a huge volcanic
eruption, that happened two millennia ago, caught the
inhabitants of that city. The disaster happened so
suddenly that everything in the town was caught in the
middle of its everyday life and remains today exactly as
it was two millennia ago. It is as if the time had been
frozen.
The removal of Pompeii from the face of the earth by
such a disaster was not purposeless. The historical record shows
that the city was exactly a center of dissipation and perversity.
The city was marked by a rise in prostitution to such an extent that
even the number of brothels was not known. Male organs in their
original sizes were hung on the doors of the brothels. According to
this tradition, rooted in Mithraic belief, sexual organs and sexual
intercourse should not be hidden but displayed openly.
Some corpses uncovered at Pompeii and
displayed in museums.
But the lava of Vesuvius wiped the whole city off the
map in a single moment. The most interesting aspect of
the event is that nobody escaped despite the terrible
violence of the eruption of Vesuvius. It is almost like
they did not even notice the catastrophe, as if they
were charmed. A family eating their meal were petrified
right at that moment. Numerous petrified couples were
found in the act of intercourse. The most interesting
thing is that there were couples of the same sex and
couples of young boys and girls. The faces of some of
the petrified human corpses unearthed from Pompeii were
unharmed. The general expression on those faces was
bewilderment.
Here lies the most incomprehensible aspect of the
calamity. How did thousands of people wait to be caught
by death without seeing and hearing anything?
This aspect of the event shows that the
disappearance of Pompeii was similar to the destructive events
mentioned in the Qur'an, because the Qur'an particularly points to
"sudden annihilation" while relating these events. For example, the
"inhabitants of the city" described in Surah Ya-seen died all at
once in a single moment. The situation is told as follows in the
29th. verse of the surah;
It was no more than a single mighty Blast, and behold!
they were (like ashes) quenched and silent.
In the 31st verse of Surat al-Qamar, again the
"instantaneous annihilation" is emphasised when the destruction of
Thamud is recounted;
For We sent against them a single Mighty Blast, and they
became like the dry stubble used by one who pens cattle.
The death of the people of Pompeii took place
instantaneously as just as the events recounted in the above
verses.
Despite all these, things have not changed much
where Pompeii once stood. The districts of Naples where debauchery
prevails do not fall short of those licentious districts of Pompeii.
The Island of Capri is a base where homosexuals and nudists reside.
The Island of Capri is represented as a "Homosexual paradise" in
tourist commercials. Not only on Capri and in Italy, but in nearly
all the world, a similar moral degeneration is at work and people
insist on not learning from the awful experiences of past peoples.
(This link was forwarded to me by brother
Mahir;
may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him)
The
People of Lut (as) And The City which was Turned Upside Down
The
people of Lut rejected (his) warning. We sent against them a
violent Tornado with showers of stones, (which destroyed them),
except Lut's household: them We delivered by early Dawn,- As a
Grace from Us: thus do We reward those who give thanks. And (Lut)
did warn them of Our Punishment, but they disputed about the
Warning. (Surat al-Qamar: 33-36)
Both
Lut (as)and Ibrahim (as) lived at the same time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). Lut (as) was
sent as a messenger to one of Ibrahim's (as) neighbouring
communities. These people, as the Qur'an tells us, practiced a
perversion unknown to the world up till then, namely sodomy.
When Lut (as) told them to give up this perversion and brought
them Allah's warning, they denied him, refused his prophethood,
and carried on with their perversion. In the end, these people
were destroyed by a dreadful disaster.
The city where
Lut (as) resided is referred to as Sodom in the Old Testament.
Being situated to the north of the Red Sea, this community is
understood to have been destroyed just as it is written in the
Qur'an. Archaeological studies reveal that the city is located
in the area of the Dead Sea which stretches along the
Palestine-Jordan border.
Before
examining the remains of this disaster, we shall examine why the
people of Lut (as) were punished in this fashion. The Qur'an
tells how Lut (as) warned his people and what they said in
reply;
The people of Lut rejected the
messengers. Behold, their brother Lut said to them: "Will ye
not fear (Allah)? I am to you a messenger worthy of all
trust. So fear Allah and obey me. No reward do I ask of you
for it: my reward is only from the lord of the Worlds. Of
all the creatures in the world, will ye approach males, And
leave those whom Allah has created for you to be your mates?
Nay, ye are a people transgressing (all limits)!"
They
said: "If thou desist not, O Lut! thou wilt assuredly be
cast out!"
He
said: "I do detest your doings." (Surat ash-Shu'ara:
160-168)
The people of
Lut (as) threatened him in response to his inviting them to the
right way. His people detested him because of his showing them
the right way, and wanted to banish both him and the other
believers beside him. In other verses, the event is told as
follows:
We also (sent) Lut: He said to his
people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people in creation
(ever) committed before you? For ye practise your lusts on
men in preference to women: ye are indeed a people
transgressing beyond bounds."
And
his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive them
out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean
and pure!" (Surat al-A‘raf: 80-82)
Lut (as)called
his people to an obvious truth and warned them explicitly, but
his people did not heed any warnings whatsoever and continued to
reject him and to deny the penalty of which he told them.
And
(remember) Lut: "Behold" he said to his people: "Ye do
commit lewdness, such as no people in Creation (ever)
committed before you. Do ye indeed approach men, and cut off
the highway? And practise wickedness (even) in your
councils?" But his people gave no answer but this: they
said: "Bring us the Wrath of Allah if thou tellest the
truth." (Surat al-Ankaboot: 28-29)
Receiving the
above answer from his people, Lut asked for the help of Allah,
He said: "O my Lord! help Thou me
against people who do mischief!" (Surat al-Ankaboot: 30)
"O my Lord! deliver me and my family
from such things as they do!" (Surat ash-Shu'ara: 169)
Upon Lut's
(as) prayer, Allah sent two angels in the form of men. These
angels visited Ibrahim (as)before coming to Lut (as). Giving
Ibrahim (as) the good news that his wife would give birth to an
infant, the messengers explained the reason for their being
sent: the insolent people of Lut (as) were to be destroyed.
(Ibrahim) said: "And what, O ye
Messengers, is your errand (now)?" They said, "We have been
sent to a people (deep) in sin; To bring on, on them, (a
shower of) stones of clay (brimstone), Marked as from thy
Lord for those who trespass beyond bounds." (Surat
adh-Dhariyat: 31-34)
Excepting the adherents of Lut: them we are certainly
(charged) to save (from harm) - All - Except his wife, who,
We have ascertained, will be among those who will lag
behind. (Surat al-Hijr: 59-60)
After leaving
Ibrahim's (as) company, the angels, who were sent as messengers,
came to Lut (as). Not having recognised the messengers, Lut (as)
first became anxious, but then understood that they were sent by
Allah:
When Our messengers came to Lut, he
was grieved on their account and felt himself powerless (to
protect) them. He said: "This is a distressful day." (Surah
Hud: 77)
He
said: "Ye appear to be uncommon folk." They said: "Yea, we
have come to thee to accomplish that of which they doubt. We
have brought to thee that which is inevitably due, and
assuredly we tell the truth. Then travel by night with thy
household, when a portion of the night (yet remains), and do
thou bring up the rear: let no one amongst you look back,
but pass on whither ye are ordered." And We made known this
decree to him, that the last remnants of those (sinners)
should be cut off by the morning. (Surat al-Hijr: 62-66)
Meanwhile, his
people had learned that Lut (as) had visitors. They did not
hesitate to approach these visitors perversely as they had
approached others before. They encircled the house. Being afraid
for his visitors, Lut (as) addressed his people as follows:
Lut
said: "These are my guests: disgrace me not: But fear Allah,
and shame me not." (Surat al-Hijr: 68-69)
The people of
Lut retorted:
They
said: "Did we not forbid thee (to speak) for all and
sundry?" (Surat al-Hijr: 70)
Thinking that
he and his visitors subjected to evil treatment, Lut said:
"Would
that I had power to suppress you or that I could betake
myself to some powerful support." (Surah Hud: 80)
His "visitors"
reminded him that they were the messengers of Allah and said:
(The
Messengers) said: "O Lut! We are Messengers from thy Lord!
By no means shall they reach thee! now travel with thy
family while yet a part of the night remains, and let not
any of you look back: but thy wife (will remain behind): To
her will happen what happens to the people. Morning is their
time appointed: Is not the morning nigh?" (Surah Hud: 81)
When the
perversity of the city people reached its fullest extent, Allah
saved Lut (as) by means of the angels. In the morning, his
people were destroyed by the disaster of which Lut (as) had
informed them in advance.
And
they even sought to snatch away his guests from him, but We
blinded their eyes. (They heard:) "Now taste ye My Wrath and
My Warning." Early on the morrow an abiding Punishment
seized them. (Surat al-Qamar: 37-38)
The verses
describe the destruction of this people as follows:
But the (mighty) Blast overtook them
before morning, And We turned (the cities) upside down, and
rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay. Behold!
in this are Signs for those who by tokens do understand. And
the (cities were) right on the high-road. (Surat al-Hijr:
73-76)
When
Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down, and
rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread,
layer on layer,-Marked as from thy Lord: Nor are they ever
far from those who do wrong! (Surah Hud: 82-83)
But
the rest We destroyed utterly. We rained down on them a
shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on those who
were admonished (but heeded not)! : Verily in this is a
Sign: but most of them do not believe. And verily thy Lord
is He, the Exalted in Might, Most Merciful. (Surat
ash-Shu'ara: 172-175)
When the
people were destroyed, only Lut (as) and the believers, who were
only as many as one "household", were saved. Lut's (as) wife did
not believe either and she was also destroyed.
We
also (sent) Lut: He said to his people: "Do ye commit
lewdness such as no people in creation (ever) committed
before you?
For ye practice your lusts on men in preference to women: ye
are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds."
And his people gave no answer but this: they said, "Drive
them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be
clean and pure!"
But we saved him and his family, except his wife: she was of
those who legged behind.
And we rained down on them a shower (of brimstone): Then see
what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime!
(Surat al-A‘raf: 80-84)
Thus, Prophet
Lut (as) was saved along with the believers and his family with
the exception of his wife. As described in the Old Testament, he
emigrated with Ibrahim (as). As for the perverted people, they
were destroyed and their dwellings were razed to the ground.
"The
Obvious Signs" in the Lake of Lut
One of the verses of Surah
Hud clearly states the kind of disaster that befell the people
of Lut (as). "When Our Decree issued, We
turned (the cities) upside down, and rained down on them
brimstones hard as baked clay, spread, layer on layer".
(Surah Hud: 82)
A satellite photograph of the region where the people of
Lut (as) lived.
The statement of "turning
(the cities) upside down" implies that the region was totally
destroyed by a violent earthquake. Accordingly, The Lake of Lut,
where the destruction took place, bears "obvious" evidence of
such a disaster.
We quote German
archaeologist Werner Keller:
Together
with the base of this mighty fissure, which runs precisely
through this area, the Vale of Siddim, including Sodom and
Gomorrah, plunged one day into the abyss. Their destruction
came about through a great earthquake which was probably
accompanied by explosions, lightning, issue of natural gas
and general conflagration.13
As a matter of
fact, the Lake of Lut, or the Dead Sea as it is otherwise known,
is located right on the top of an active seismic region, that
is, an earthquake zone:
The base
of the dead sea is located with a tectonic rooted downfall.
This valley is located in a tension stretching between the
Taberiye Lake in the north, and mid of Arabah Valley in the
south.14
The Lake of Lut, or Dead Sea as otherwise called.
The event was expressed as
"we rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread,
layer on layer" in the last part of the verse. This is in all
probability meant to be the volcanic explosion that took place
on the banks of the Lake of Lut, and because of which the rocks
and stones that erupted were in a "baked form". (The same event
is related in the verse 173 of Surat ash-Shu'ara as "We rained
down on them a shower (of brimstone): and evil was the shower on
those who were admonished (but heeded not)!")
In relation to this
subject, Werner Keller writes:
The subsidence
released volcanic forces that had been lying dormant deep
down along the whole length of the fracture. In the upper
valley of the Jordan near Bashan there are still towering
craters of extinct volcanoes; great stretches of lava and
deep layers of basalt have been deposited on the limestone
surface. 15
An illustration
showing the volcanic eruption and the collapse
that followed it, which caused the whole people
to disappear.
These lava and basalt
layers constitute the greatest evidence that a volcanic
explosion and earthquake had once taken place here. The
catastrophe depicted in the following expression as "we
rained down on them brimstones hard as baked clay, spread,
layer on layer" in the Qur'an most probably points to this
volcanic explosion, and Allah knows best. The expression
"When Our Decree issued, We turned (the cities) upside down"
which occurs in the same verse, must be referring to the
earthquake which caused volcanoes to erupt over the surface
of the earth with devastating impact, and to the fissures
and debris brought by it, and only Allah knows the truth of
it.
The "obvious signs"
conveyed by the Lake of Lut are indeed very interesting. In
general, the events which are related in the Qur'an take
place in the Middle East, the Arabian Peninsula and Egypt.
Right in the middle of these lands, is the Lake of Lut. The
Lake of Lut, as well as the incidents that have taken place
around it, deserves attention geologically. The Lake is
approximately 400 metres below the surface of the
Mediterranean. Since the deepest point in the Lake is 400
metres, the bottom of the Lake is 800 metres below the
surface of the Mediterranean. This is the lowest point on
the earth. In other areas which are lower than sea level,
the depth is at most 100 metres. Another property of the
Lake of Lut is that the salt content of its water is very
high, the density being nearly 30%. Because of this, no
living organism, such as fish or moss, can survive in this
lake. This is why the Lake of Lut is called the "Dead Sea"
in Western literature.
A distant view of the
Lake of Lut
The incident of Lut's
(as)people, which is recounted in the Qur'an, occurred
around 1800 BC according to estimates. Based on his
archaeological and geological researches, the German
researcher Werner Keller noted that the cities of Sodom and
Gomorrah were in fact located in the Siddim Valley which was
the region at the furthest and lowest end of the Lake of
Lut, and that there were once big and widely inhabited sites
in those regions.
The most interesting
structural characteristic of the Lake of Lut is evidence showing
how the disaster incidence recounted in the Qur'an took place:
On
the eastern shore of the Dead Sea the peninsula of El-Lisan
protrudes like a tongue far into the water. El-Lisan means "the
tongue" in Arabic. Unseen from the land the ground falls away
here under the surface of the water at a prodigious angle,
dividing the sea into two parts. To the right of the peninsula
the ground slopes sharply down to a depth of 1200 feet. On the
left of the peninsula the water remains remarkably shallow.
Soundings taken in the last few years established depths of only
fifty to sixty feet. That extraordinary shallow part of the Dead
Sea, from the peninsula El-Lisan to the southernmost tip, was
the Vale of Siddim.
16
Werner Keller noted
that this shallow part, which was discovered to have formed
subsequently, was the outcome of the aforementioned
earthquake and the massive collapse this earthquake had
caused. This was the place where Sodom and Gomorrah were
situated, that is, where Lut's (as) people lived.
An overhead view of the
mountains around the Lake of Lut.
Once, it was
possible to cross this region by walking. However, now, the Vale
of Siddim, where Sodom and Gomorrah were once situated, is
covered by the flat surface of the lower part of the Dead Sea.
The collapse of the base as a result of the dreadful catastrophe
that came to pass in the beginning of the second millennium BC,
caused salt water from the north to flow into this recently
formed cavity and filled the basin with salty water.
The traces of
Lut's (as) people are visible… When one takes a rowing boat
across the Lake of Lut to the southernmost point, if the sun is
shining in the right direction, one sees something quite
fantastic. Some distance from the shore and clearly visible
under the surface of the water, there are the outlines of the
forests which the extraordinarily high salt content of the Dead
Sea preserved. The trunks and roots in the shimmering green
water are very ancient. The Siddim valley, where these trees
were once in blossom green foliage covered their twigs and
branches, was one of the most beautiful locations in the region.
Some of the remains of the
city, which had slipped into the lake, were found on the
banks of the lake. These remains showed that the people
of Lut had quite a high standard of life.
The mechanical
aspect of the disaster that befell the people of Lut (as) is
revealed by the researches of the geologists. These reveal that
the earthquake which destroyed the people of Lut (as) came about
as a consequence of a fault line in the earth, along the
190-kilometre distance making up the bed of the River Sheri'at.
River Sheri'at makes a fall of 180 metres in total. Both this
and the fact that the Lake of Lut is 400 metres below sea level
are two important pieces of evidence showing that an enormous
geological event once took place here.
The
interesting structure of the River of Sheri'at and the Lake of
Lut make up only a small part of the crack or split passing from
this region of the earth. The condition and length of this crack
have only recently been discovered.
The destruction of the people
of Lut (as) has inspired many painters. An example is
given above.
The fault
starts from the outskirts of Mount Taurus, stretches to the
southern shores of the Lake of Lut and proceeds over the Arabian
desert to the Gulf of Aqaba and continues across the Red Sea,
ending up in Africa. Along the length of it, strong volcanic
activities are observed. Black basalt and lava exist in the
Galilee Mountains in Israel, high plain regions of Jordan, the
Gulf of Aqaba and other areas nearby.
All these
remains and geographical evidences show that a catastrophic
geological event took place in the Lake of Lut. Werner Keller
writes:
Together
with the base of this mighty fissure, which runs precisely
through this area, the Vale of Siddim, including Sodom and
Gomorrah, plunged one day into the abyss. Their destruction came
about through a great earthquake which was probably accompanied
by explosions, lightning, issue of natural gas and general
conflagration. The subsidence released volcanic forces that had
been lying dormant deep down along the whole length of the
fracture. In the upper valley of the Jordan near Bashan there
are still towering craters of extinct volcanoes; great stretches
of lava and deep layers of basalt have been deposited on the
limestone surface. 17
National
Geographic makes the following comment:
The mount of Sodom, a
barren wasteland, rises sharply above the dead sea. No one has
ever found the destroyed cities of Sodom and Gomorrah, but
scholars believe that they stood in the Vale of Siddim across
from these cliffs. Possibly flood waters of the Dead Sea
engulfed them following an earthquake.18
Above is a picture representing the luxury and
prosperity of the city of Pompeii before the disaster.
Pompeii Had a Similar End
The Qur'an
tells us in the following verses that there is no change in
Allah's laws:
They
swore their strongest oaths by Allah that if a warner came to
them, they would follow his guidance better than any (other) of
the Peoples: But when a warner came to them, it has only
increased their flight (from righteousness) - On account of
their arrogance in the land and their plotting of Evil, but the
plotting of Evil will hem in only the authors thereof. Now are
they but looking for the way the ancients were dealt with? But
no change wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing): no turning
off wilt thou find in Allah's way (of dealing). (Surat al-Fatir:
42-43)
Yes, "no
change will be found in Allah's way (rules)". Everybody, who
stands against His laws and rebels against Him, is subject to
the same divine law. Pompeii, the symbol of the degeneration of
the Roman Empire, was also involved in sexual perversity. Its
end was similar to that of the people of Lut (as).
The
destruction of Pompeii came by means of the eruption of the
volcano Vesuvius.
The volcano
Vesuvius is the symbol of Italy, primarily the city of Naples.
Remaining silent for the last two millennia, Vesuvius is named
the "Mountain of Warning". It is noteworthy that Vesuvius is
known as such. The disaster that befell Sodom and Gomorrah is
very similar to the disaster that destroyed Pompeii.
The pictures above are petrified
corpses unearthed in excavations made in Pompeii.
To
the right of Vesuvius lies Naples and to the east lies Pompeii.
The lava and ash of a huge volcanic eruption, that happened
thousands of years ago, caught the inhabitants of that city. The
disaster happened so suddenly that everything in the town was
caught in the middle of its everyday life and remains today
exactly as it was two millennia ago. It is as if the time had
been frozen.
The removal of
Pompeii from the face of the earth by such a disaster was not
purposeless. The historical record shows that the city was
exactly the centre of dissipation and perversity. The city was
marked by a rise in prostitution to such an extent that even the
number of brothels was not known.
But the lava
of Vesuvius wiped the whole city off the map in a single moment.
The most interesting aspect of the event is that nobody escaped
despite the terrible violence of the eruption of Vesuvius. It is
almost like they did not even notice the catastrophe, as if they
were charmed. A family eating their meal were petrified right at
that moment. Numerous petrified couples were found in the act of
intercourse. The most interesting thing is that there were
couples of the same sex and couples of young boys and girls. The
faces of some of the petrified human corpses unearthed from
Pompeii were unharmed. The general expression on those faces was
bewilderment.
Other examples of petrified human
corpses uncovered among the remains of Pompeii
Here lies the
most incomprehensible aspect of the calamity. How did thousands
of people wait to be caught by death without seeing and hearing
anything?
This aspect of
the event shows that the disappearance of Pompeii was similar to
the destructive events mentioned in the Qur'an, because the
Qur'an particularly points to "sudden annihilation" while
relating these events. For example, the "inhabitants of the
city" described in Surah Ya-Sin died all at once in a single
moment. The situation is told as follows:
It was no
more than a single mighty Blast, and behold! they were (like
ashes) quenched and silent. (Surah Ya-Sin: 29)
Some other examples of
petrified human corpses uncovered at Pompeii. The
picture on the left is a very good example of how
instantaneous the disaster was.
In Surat al-Qamar,
again the "instantaneous annihilation" is emphasised when the
destruction of Thamud is recounted:
For We
sent against them a single Mighty Blast, and they became like
the dry stubble used by one who pens cattle. (Surat al-Qamar:
31)
The death of
the people of Pompeii took place instantaneously as just as the
events recounted in the above verses.
Despite all of
this, things have not changed much where Pompeii once stood. The
districts of Naples where debauchery prevails do not fall short
of those licentious districts of Pompeii. The Island of Capri is
a base where homosexuals and nudists reside and is represented
as a "Homosexual paradise" in tourist commercials. Not only on
Capri and in Italy, but in nearly all the world, a similar moral
degeneration is at work and people insist on not learning from
the awful experiences of past peoples.
13- Werner Keller
Und die Bibel hat doch recht (The Bible as History; a Confirmation of
the Book of Books), New York: William Morrow, 1964 p. 75-76
14- "Le Monde de la Bible", Archeologie et Histoire, July-August 1993.
15- Werner Keller Und die Bibel hat doch recht (The Bible as History; a
Confirmation of the Book of Books), New York: William Morrow, 1964, p.
76
16- Ibid, pp. 73-74
17- Ibid, pp. 75-76
18- G. Ernest Wright, "Bringing Old Testament Times to Life", National
Geographic, Vol. 112, December 1957, p.
And posting Dr. Zaghlool Al-Naggar's picture with my
translation of it:
After the (scientists') geological sweeping of the planet earth, the
scientists discovered that the lowest land-area on earth is the area of the dead
sea, and the dead sea's water reduces approximately 380 meters. And when the
Romans were defeated in this land, the following Noble Verses were revealed:
Arabic
(from right to left):
30:2
غلبت الروم
30:3في ادنى الارض وهم من بعد
غلبهم سيغلبون
30:2 The Romans have been
defeated -
30:3
In the lowest land on earth; but
they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious-
ادنى: The lowest (Reference: Lisan
Al-Arab), which means the lowest area on earth.
And the Romans defeated the
Persians after seven years from the time the Noble Verses were revealed. And to
GOD is all authority from before and after.
They wrote:
Exegetical Problems
The discerning reader should be able to see that Q. 30:2-4 is laden with
problems which the text does not provide solutions for. In fact, this so-called
prediction furnishes a great example of just how incoherent, incomplete and
unintelligible the Quran truly is.
For instance, the citation raises the following issues:
The prophecy states that the Romans have been defeated in a land
close by, but doesn’t bother to identify the precise location of this
land.
The obvious question is close to what exactly? Does this mean close to
the place of Muslims, i.e. near Mecca or Medina? Or does this mean near the
Roman capital? Or is it supposed to be close to Persia?
Is it supposed to be near Syria, Lebanon, Turkey, India, China, Spain
etc.?
The reference also fails to mention the name of the people or nation
that supposedly defeated the Romans. Actually, the people by whom they were
defeated and whom they would be victorious over don’t necessarily have to be
the same. The Quran fails to state by whom they were first defeated and over
which nation they will be victorious a few years later. E.g., it is
certainly possible to say: The Romans who have just been defeated by the
Egyptians will soon be victorious over the Persians.
As if this weren’t bad enough the so-called prophecy doesn’t even bother
mentioning either the date of composition, i.e. whether the Sura is Meccan
or Medinan in origin, or the time of the Roman defeat. Such details are
vitally important in determining whether the Romans were able to vanquish
their foes within the allotted time period stipulated by the Quran.
In light of the foregoing, how did Abdallah know that this passage was
referring to the Dead Sea when it never mentions the name of the land? How does
he even know when this section was supposedly "sent down"? He doesn’t know since
the Quran doesn’t answer any of these questions. Abdallah has simply read all of
these assertions into the text of the Quran in order to make it agree with
modern scientific discoveries.
My response:
The Noble Verse does not say "in a land close by."
The translation is wrong, and I proved this with ample Noble Verses and ample
articles from Muslims above including Dr. Zaghlool Al-Naggar.
They wrote:
Textual Issues
As if the foregoing wasn’t bad enough there is also a textual issue with Q.
30:2-4 which changes the entire meaning of the so-called prophecy. The late
Christian evangelist and author Carl Gottlieb Pfander quoted Muslim exegete
al-Baidawi who mentioned specific variant readings which had the text say that
the Romans were victorious in a land nearby and were going to lose in a few
years:
But Al Baizawi shatters the whole argument of the Muslims by informing
us of certain varied readings in these verses of Suratu'r Rum. He tells
us that some read غَلَبَتِ instead of the usual غُلِبَتِ, and سَيُغْلَبُونَ
instead of سَيَغْلُبُونَ. The rendering will then be: "The Byzantine HAVE
CONQUERED in the nearest part of the land, and they SHALL BE DEFEATED in a
small number of years," &c. If this be the correct reading, the whole
story about Abu Bakr's bet with Ubai must be a fable,2 since Ubai
was dead long before the Muslims began to defeat the Byzantines, and even
long before the victories which Heraclius won over the Persians. This
shows how unreliable such Traditions are. The explanation which Al
Baizawi gives is, that the Byzantines became the conquerors of "the
well-watered land of Syria" (على ريف آلْشام), and that the passage
predicted that the Muslims would soon overcome them. If this is the
meaning, the Tradition which records the "descent" of the verses about six.
years before the Hijrah must be wrong, and the passage must belong to A.H. 6
at earliest. It is clear that, as the vowel-points were not used when the
Qur'an was first written down in Kufic letters, no one can be certain which
of the two readings is right. We have seen that there is so much uncertainty
about (1) the date at which the verses were "sent down", (2) the correct
reading, and (3) the meaning, that it is quite impossible to show that the
passage contains a prophecy which was fulfilled. Hence it cannot be
considered to be a proof of Muhammad's prophetic office. (Pfander,
Mizan-ul-Haqq - The Balance of Truth, revised and enlarged by W. St.
Clair Tisdall [Light of Life P.O. Box 18, A-9503, Villach Austria], pp.
279-280;
source; bold and capital emphasis ours)
With this in mind, we need to ask Abdallah how does he know that the text
originally read that the Romans have been defeated and will soon be victorious?
How can he be certain that it didn’t initially say that the Romans have won and
shall soon be defeated, which would change the entire meaning since it would no
longer be a reference to the Romans being defeated by the Persians but to their
eventual showdown with the Muslim army not long after they had vanquished the
Persians?
Moreover, this textual variant supports one of the points we raised earlier,
i.e. the passage may not have the same army or nation in view since it may
actually be referring to two different opponents which the Romans would face in
battle.
More importantly, how can Abdallah still hold to the Quran being a miracle
from Allah in light of these gross textual and exegetical problems?
My response:
Again, the Noble Verse does not say "in a land close by."
The translation is wrong, and I proved this with ample Noble Verses and ample
articles from Muslims above including Dr. Zaghlool Al-Naggar.
They wrote:
Appealing to Islamic Sources for Clarification
Abdallah may claim that the answers to these questions are to be found in the
Islamic literature, i.e. the Sira and hadiths. But this serves to compound the
problems for Abdallah since the moment he goes outside the Quran to demonstrate
his case he ends up demonstrating that this so-called prophecy is far from being
clear. He will basically be proving that a plain reading of these verses do not
support his case since they are so unclear and vague that they can be made to
say just about anything.
After all, appealing to secondary sources which were compiled some 100-200
years after the death of Muhammad proves that the Quran is not a complete record
and to accurately understand it one needs to consult highly questionable
sources; materials which were not written during the time these events allegedly
took place.
More importantly, appealing to the Sira and/or hadith sounds the death knell
for his entire case since these very sources demonstrate that the Quran contains
gross scientific errors. They show that the first Muslims understood these
passages in a manner which completely contradicts modern scientific facts and
discoveries.
In fact, Abdallah himself attacks and rejects much of the Islamic source
materials because they contain embarrassing statements that provide additional
evidence that Muhammad was a false prophet (here).
My response:
Again, the Noble Verse does not say "in a land close by."
The translation is wrong, and I proved this with ample Noble Verses and ample
articles from Muslims above including Dr. Zaghlool Al-Naggar.
Also, using the Hadiths does not contradict nor falsify the Noble Quran,
because:
1- Allah Almighty clearly Commanded us to
follow Prophet Muhammad's commands:
"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the
Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ
in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe
in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final
determination. (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"
"When there comes to them some matter touching (Public)
safety or fear, they divulge it. If they had only referred it to the
Apostle, or to those charged with authority among them, the proper
investigators would have Tested it from them (direct). Were it not for the Grace
and Mercy of God unto you, all but a few of you would have fallen into the
clutches of Satan. (The Noble Quran, 4:83)"
"What Allah gave as booty (Fai) to His
Messenger (Muhammad SAW) from the people of the townships, - it is for Allah,
His Messenger (Muhammad SAW), the kindred (of Messenger Muhammad SAW), the
orphans, AlMasakin (the poor), and the wayfarer, in order that it may not become
a fortune used by the rich among you. And whatsoever the Messenger
(Muhammad SAW) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from
it), and fear Allah. Verily, Allah is Severe in punishment.
(The Noble Quran, 59:7)"
2- Allah Almighty purposely made the Noble
Quran to be fully concerned with Salvation and all of the things that are linked
to Salvation, and left the stories and their details be covered in the Prophet's
Hadiths.
As to your quote: "In fact, Abdallah himself attacks
and rejects much of the Islamic source materials because they contain
embarrassing statements that provide additional evidence that Muhammad was a
false prophet (here)."
You are clear liars and cowards because you boldly lie right through your
teeth and you have absolutely no hesitation about it. I want to ask
everyone to PLEASE click on the link and read what I wrote. I never said
that there are "embarrassing" hadiths and that is why I reject them.
As I clearly said above and similar in the link you provided:
(the following is my quote from above)
"I also thoroughly demonstrated
that Shamoun's stories that he quoted were written 200-300 years after Prophet
Muhammad's (peace be upon him) natural death. Therefore, whether they were
good stories or bad stories (everything is relative to the
person's perspective and point of view), they were nonetheless not
accurate either way because of the major time-gap.
1- Their own quote refutes
their claim:
Ironically, Shamoun and Katz both agree with this in their own
quote below:
"After all, appealing to secondary sources which were
compiled some 100-200 years after the death of Muhammad proves
that the Quran is not a complete record and to accurately understand it one
needs to consult highly questionable sources; materials which were not written
during the time these events allegedly took place."
So not only they're liars for saying that I lost a "humiliating loss" in the
debate, but they are also dumb because their own quotes refute their own points.
Can you find something more
hilarious than this?
To the reader, please visit the following link for clarification:
It is rather intriguing that none of the most commonly read and popular
English versions of the Quran translate adna as lowest or al-ardi
as the earth. They uniformly render adna as close/near/nearer/nearest (or
even as neighboring!) and al-ardi as land respectively:
in the nearer part of the land A.J. Arberry
in a neighboring land N.J. Dawood
In a land close by Y. Ali
In the nearer land Pickthall
in the lands close-by Muhammad Asad
in a nearby land M.A.S. Abdel Haleem
in the neighboring land, F. Malik
In a near land Shakir
In the land nearby Sher Ali
In a near land Maulana Muhammad Ali
in a nearby land Muhammad Sarwar
In a nearer land ‘Abdul Majid Daryabadi
In the nearest land Saheeh International
on the nearest front! T.B. Irving
In the nearest land Rashad Khalifa
in the nighest parts of the land Palmer
in the nearest part of the land Sale
In the neighboring lands! Dr. Munir Munshey (one of Osama
Abdallah’s
authors!)
Other versions identify this land as the area around Syria and Palestine:
In the nearest land (Syria, Iraq, Jordan, and Palestine)
Hilali-Khan
In the land nearby (- Syria and Palestine) Amatul Rahman & ‘Abdul
Mannan ‘Omar
Osama Abdallah is virtually alone in adopting the translation, in the
lowest land on earth, and the reason is rather obvious; his desire to find
scientific statements in the Quran leads him to manipulate the verse in order to
deceive people into thinking that the Quran contains accurate scientific
information.
Some semi-serious grammatical diversions – an excursus
It is rather easy to see how Abdallah manipulates the text in various ways.
First, he translates "al-ardi" twice even though it is found only once in the
phrase "fee adna al-ardi". He advocates that it means "in the lowest
land on earth". It is true that the word "ardi" can mean land
or earth, but it is found only once in the phrase and not twice. Most of the
above translations say something like "in the nearest land" but not "in the
nearest land on earth". So, even if Abdallah prefers "lowest" over "nearest" for
adna and "earth" over "land" for ardi, then he would have to
render it "in the lowest earth".
This is then clearly connected to the Quranic teaching of the existence of
seven earths, one below the other, and the author of the Quran claims that the
Romans had descended to the lowest one of the seven earths and had been defeated
there. For more details on this aspect of Quranic geography see the article,
The
Seven Earths.
Moreover, Abdallah makes a big deal about the definite article al-. He
claims, "In Arabic, when "el" is added to the noun, it makes the entire
statement a generalizing one." That is utter nonsense, both in Arabic and
English. The definite article is not a generalization, but a specification. It
is narrowing down the meaning. But there is no point in discussing Arabic
grammar with people who are absolutely clueless about it. But even those who
know little about grammar in general should be able to see that Abdallah then
places the definite article before the wrong word. He renders: "in the
lowest land on earth", but shouts that "el-ardi" means THE EARTH, he
should either render it as "in THE lowest EARTH" (see above), or – if we want to
allow him to insert an extra land into his translation – "in a lower
(land) on THE EARTH". The definite article is before ardi, not
before adna. So, it makes the ardi (earth) specific but not the
adna (nearer/lower).
Again, the phrase does not yield the desired meaning. If al-ardi means
"the earth" as Abdallah so ardently claims, then the adjective adna
cannot mean "the lowest land" because it has neither the definite article nor
the word for land coming with it. If it is so important and meaningful that the
definite article is before ardi, then it is just as meaningful and
important to pay attention to the fact that it is NOT there before adna,
i.e. adna is not specific and can only refer to an unspecified instance
of several possible "lower lands".
Furthermore, the definite article by itself does not determine whether
ardi has to be translated as land or as earth. With or without the definite
article, that is determined by the context. The highest mountain or the richest
man in the land (e.g., in Saudi Arabia) or on the earth are most
probably not the same, but the definite article is there in both cases.
My response:
(the definite article issue is dealt with the next
section below)
Again and again, the Noble Verse does not say "in a land close by."
The translation is wrong, and I proved this with ample Noble Verses and ample
articles from Muslims above including Dr. Zaghlool Al-Naggar.
As to the "seven earths," unlike your
gospel of porn,
the book of women's vaginas and breasts literally
taste like "wine," Allah Almighty Said in the Noble Quran that He has
seven Heavens and "of the earth a similar number."
Science just recently proved that the earth does have seven inner layers
and 7 atmospheric layers as well. And I would not be surprised that if
Allah Almighty created seven earths since UFOs are mentioned in the Noble Quran.
To the reader, please visit the following articles for clear proofs:
Dhul Qarnayn's story. Sunrise
and sunset.
Also Why
حمئة
and not حاميةٍ.
Dhil Qarnayn's journey is detailed
with scientific and geographical
maps that are more 1000 years old.
Allah Almighty
in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
- Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1]. - Is rotating around itself. - Is moving in space in
curvy orbits [2]. - Is in constant motion. - Is suspended in space. - Is
swimming in space. - Is traveling through the constantly
expanding universe [3].
- The
sunsetless
North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran
[4].
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the
aurora lights covering the
horizons of space above the earth when he
was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated
Abdullah: "Regarding
the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad)
did see. Of
the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!"
(Quran 53.18)
That the Prophet had seen a green
carpet spread all over the
horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."
(Translation of Sahih
Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)
Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said
this about his journey to the farthest
northern lands and people:
18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على
قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر
"Until he reached near
حتى اذا بلغ
where the sun is up
مطلع
الشمس,
he found it above
وجدها تطلع على
people
قوم
whom We
made no cover for them from it
لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر.
(The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
Noble Verse(s)
18:91
Rodwell:
[018:091]
Thus it was.
And we had
full knowledge
of the forces that were with him.
Arabic (Read from right to
left. Also, all png image files: [1]
[2]. Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):
18:91 كذلك
وقد احطنا
بما لديه خبرا
Prophet Muhammad
"did see"
(Quran 53.18)
the
Aurora Lights
covering the horizons above the earth from
space. Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the
farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and
"Thus
it was", Allah Almighty
completed the "full
knowledge" regarding
Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.
This
further supports the story below about
Dhil-Qarnayn's journey
to the farthest northern lands and people (The
sunsetless [4]
North Pole Quran-miracle). They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). For example, can you read or say this:
"Vaðlaheiðarvegavinnuverkfærageymsluskúrslyklakippuhringurinn" ?? This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
The early Muslims believed that Dhil Qarnayn reached the people of the farthest norths of the earth. The following is a map of Al-Sharif Al-Idrisi in year 1154 giving the geographic location of where Dhil Qarnayn went according to the understanding of the early Muslims of Noble Verses 18:83-100:
Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"
Dhil = One who has. قرنين Qarnayn = two horns. Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn). Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.
Noble Verses
53:18 and 18:91
are also prophetically linked together;
that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين
saw. Also visit:
(Video from NASA filming the Green Carpet Aurora Lights from space)
Again, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!" (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)
-
The Glorious Quran also speaks about
many earths
[5]
and not just earth.
- The Glorious Quran
predicts 11 planets in our
solar system [6].
In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:
1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.
Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).
To preserve Osama Abdallah’s nonsense from disappearing, here is one excerpt
of what he wrote:
In Arabic, when "el" is added to the noun, it makes the entire statement
a generalizing one. Similar to English, when we say THE EARTH, we are
referring to the entire planet. When Allah Almighty Said:
في ادنى الارض and added
"el" to EARTH before the word
ادنى , He clearly and indisputably made
the meaning of
ادنى to be measured against the entire
earth's other areas.
في ادنى الارض LITERALLY means in the
lowest spot/area on earth.
If "el" was not added to earth, then the meaning of the term would be in
the lowest spot of the area. This would limit
the term only to the lands near where the battle took place. But since Allah
Almighty added "EL" to earth, making it THE EARTH in English, then this
makes the term go against the entire earth and not just a limited area.
This is quite an accumulation of nonsense. As remarked above, adding the
definite article to a noun is a specification, not a generalization; and that is
true in Arabic and in English. That Abdallah is very weak in Arabic is well
known, but he is obviously also very weak in English. Putting the definite
article before "earth" does not necessarily refer to the whole planet. There are
plenty of contexts for which this is wrong. One example should be sufficient.
Imagine, you want to fill a deep hole in the ground and have two piles, one of
stones/rubble and one of earth (valuable topsoil). First you fill the hole with
stones, up to a certain level, and then you may say to your friend: Now bring
me the earth. The meaning is clear, and unless his name is Osama Abdallah,
he wouldn’t think for even a second that the whole planet is going to fit into
that hole. Finally, what is wrong about O. Abdallah#146;s statement, “When Allah
Almighty Said:
في ادنى الارض and added "el" to EARTH before
the word
ادنى ”? Can you see it? The Arabic phrase is
transliterated "fee adna al-ardi" and the single Arabic word is "adna". Clearly
"al-ardi" (the earth) comes after and not before "adna". Arabic has to be
read from right to left, but Osama Abdallah apparently reads Arabic from left to
right so that from his perspective "al-ardi" comes before "adna". Although this
little factoid is rather inconsequential for the truth or falsity of the
argument as a whole, it reveals Abdallah’s ignorance down to the most trivial
level.
My response:
It is only due to your extreme resentment and embarrassment from the
countless documented foul rubbish that we documented on the low-life
loser, Sam Shamoun, that is causing you get very personal with me like that and
to try to desperately prove that I am weak in English grammar.
The two ignorants laughably wrote:
"Clearly "al-ardi" (the earth) comes after and
not before "adna". Arabic has to be read from right to left, but Osama Abdallah
apparently reads Arabic from left to right so that from his perspective
"al-ardi" comes before "adna". Although this little factoid is rather
inconsequential for the truth or falsity of the argument as a whole, it
reveals Abdallah’s ignorance down to the most trivial level."
Here is my response:
Also, as one clearly sees from the site, I speak English fluently. Now,
because I am a computer programmer, and because I come from a technical
background (I have a masters degree in computer science), the type of English
that I deal with is not the type of literature and vocabularies that one deals
with in the humanities and social science fields. But nonetheless, I still
write big articles with perfect English.
The generalization of
the definite article:
Now I must admit that my explanation above was partial. It wasn't
intentional, but because we're dealing with low-life losers here, I have to
explain myself good enough to remove the smoke-screens that these deceivers are
trying to create:
1- My explanation above is
100% correct. The definite article "the" does indeed cause the word to be
a generalized one to all of the things that belong to the noun
if the noun that it was used on encompassed many things! So do the indefinite articles "a" and "an" also.
So in our example here, when Allah Almighty said "THE EARTH," He didn't just
refer to a specific land, but rather to all of the lands and continents of the
earth.
2- I should've covered the
indefinite articles in my explanation and gave examples so that the whole
picture would become clear. Here are examples for them:
Furthermore on my English and Arabic-speaking and writing capabilities, whether
Osama Abdallah is weak in Arabic and English or not that is really not relevant
at all. You only personalized this because you're about to blow up from
envy because Osama Abdallah and his team mates had wiped the floor with you and
your egos. But in response to your laughable hatred,
Osama Abdallah is neither weak in Arabic or English. I can speak
both languages very comfortably and very well. Osama Abdallah, however,
reads English much more comfortably than he does with Arabic. The reason
for this is because Arabic is a very complex and artistic language, and I say
ARTISTIC in capital letters!! It requires a lot of practice for the
individual to excel in dictation and reading, and since I spend most of my time
reading and writing all of my materials, whether for the site or for work or
anything else in
English (because most of my audiences are English speakers), my practice in
reading Arabic is minimal and my experience in writing Arabic close to nil.
But again, given the facts that I come from a computer programming background,
the type of English and vocabularies that I deal with are not advanced.
They are unique and isolated. But given all of that, I think reader
clearly sees from the way I construct the sentences and separate them using
commas, hyphens, semicolons, periods and so on, that I know English very well
and I have no problems either speaking it or writing it.
So once again, the two
ludicrous losers had been exposed as nothing but hateful liars.
And just for the record:
Does the English that I just spoke thus far sound like it came from someone
who can't speak and write the language? Just because I might use regular
and simpler words such as "wrath" instead of
"ire," that still doesn't mean that my English is
weak, because the type of English that those in humanities, social science and
literature write is a more unique and advanced English to them. The
average writer wouldn't choose the word "ire."
But he would choose "wrath" and/or
"anger" instead. A technical guy like me who comes from computer
programming and problem solving environment can not be expected to be super
fluent in English. This is just a simple example from the countless words
out there.
My evaluation?!
Let it be known to these hateful and dirty infidels that it is not Osama
Abdallah, the humble slave of Allah Almighty and a servant to all of the
Almighty's true believers and a stubborn arrogant toward the
hostile and hateful infidels toward Muslims, who awaits to be evaluated by two low-life losers, whom one of them had
been badly caught exposed, countless times, to have
a filthy
and toilet-mouth!
They wrote:
Al-ardi = the entire earth?
Whatever one may think about the grammar discussions presented above, they
are not even needed to expose how wrong Abdallah’s argument is.
My response:
What these two ignorants have just implicitly admitted is that my explanation
was correct, but it was not the only correct one. But nonetheless, it was
correct.
They wrote:
We simply need to look into the Quran and list a number of passages that use
al-ardi:
Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the
favour of God unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings,
and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples. O my
people! Enter the holy land (al-arda almuqaddasata) which God hath
assigned unto you, and turn not back ignominiously, for then will ye be
overthrown, to your own ruin." They said: "O Moses! In this land are a
people of exceeding strength: Never shall we enter it until they leave it:
if (once) they leave, then shall we enter." (But) among (their) God-fearing
men were two on whom God had bestowed His grace: They said: "Assault them at
the (proper) Gate: when once ye are in, victory will be yours; But on God
put your trust if ye have faith." They said: "O Moses! while they remain
there, never shall we be able to enter, to the end of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). Go thou, and thy
Lord, and fight ye two, while we sit here (and watch)." He said: "O my Lord!
I have power only over myself and my brother: so separate us from this
rebellious people!" God said: "Therefore will the landbe out of
their reach for FORTY YEARS: In distraction will they wander through
the land (al-ardi): But sorrow thou not over these rebellious
people." S. 5:20-26 Y. Ali
And We said to the Children of Israel after him, 'Dwell in the
land (al-ardi); and when the promise of the world to come comes
to pass, We shall bring you a rabble.' S. 17:104 Arberry
It is obvious that al-ardi here refers to both the desert that Israel
wandered through for forty years and to the Promised Land which God swore to
give them. It does not refer to the entire earth.
But recite unto them with truth the tale of the two sons of Adam, how
they offered each a sacrifice, and it was accepted from the one of them and
it was not accepted from the other. (The one) said: I will surely kill thee.
(The other) answered: Allah accepteth only from those who ward off (evil).
Even if thou stretch out thy hand against me to kill me, I shall not stretch
out my hand against thee to kill thee, lo! I fear Allah, the Lord of the
Worlds. Lo! I would rather thou shouldst bear the punishment of the sin
against me and thine own sin and become one of the owners of the fire. That
is the reward of evil-doers. But (the other's) mind imposed on him the
killing of his brother, so he slew him and became one of the losers. Then
God sent a raven, who scratched the ground (al-ardi), to show him how
to hide the shame of his brother. "Woe is me!" said he; "Was I not even
able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?" then he
became full of regrets - S. 5:27-31 Pickhtall
In the above passage, al-ardi refers to a specific part of the ground,
not to the entire world, unless Abdallah wants to argue that Cain traveled the
entire earth!
And to Thamud (people, We sent) their brother Salih (Saleh). He said: "O
my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (God) but Him. (La
ilaha ill-Allah: none has the right to be worshipped but Allah). Indeed
there has come to you a clear sign (the miracle of the coming out of a huge
shecamel from the midst of a rock) from your Lord. This shecamel of Allah is
a sign unto you; so you leave her to graze in Allah's earth, and touch her
not with harm, lest a painful torment should seize you. "And remember when
He made you successors after 'Ad (people) and gave you habitations in
the land (al-ardi), you build for yourselves palaces in plains, and
carve out homes in the mountains. So remember the graces (bestowed
upon you) from Allah, and do not go about making mischief on the earth." S.
7:73-74 Hilali-Khan
Allah caused the people of the Thamud to inherit al-ardi of the Ad
people. It is more than obvious that al-ardi can only mean a specific
land in this context since Ad did not live or own the entire earth.
Said the chiefs of Pharaoh's people: "Wilt thou leave Moses and his
people, to spread mischief in the land (fee al-ardi),
and to abandon thee and thy gods?" He said: "Their male children will we
slay; (only) their females will we save alive; and we have over them (power)
irresistible." S. 7:127 Y. Ali
(Joseph) said: "Set me over the store-houses of the land
(al-ardi): I will indeed guard them, as one that knows (their
importance)." S. 12:55 Y. Ali
So Pharaoh sought to drive them out of the land (al-ardi);
but we drowned him and all his followers. S. 17:103 Rodwell
Said Pharaoh: "Leave me to slay Moses; and let him call on his Lord! What
I fear is lest he should change your religion, or lest he should cause
mischief to appear in the land (fee al-ardi)!" S. 40:26 Y.
Ali
Al-ardi, in the above texts, is the land of Egypt, not the entire
earth.
Speaking to the Muslims during the battle of badr, Muhammad says:
And remember, when ye were few and reckoned feeble inthe
land (fee al-ardi), and were in fear lest men should extirpate
you, how He gave you refuge, and strengthened you with His help, and made
provision of good things for you, that haply ye might be thankful. S. 8:26
Pickthall
By al-ardi Muhammad meant the Arabian peninsula, specifically Mecca
and Medina, since Muslims hadn’t penetrated the entire world at that time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
But We delivered him and (his nephew) Lut (and directed them) to
the land (al-ardi) which We have blessed for the nations. S.
21:71 Y. Ali
Abraham and Lot were brought into al-ardi, which can only be a
reference to a specific land, namely the area which they settled in at first.
The only reward of those who make war upon Allah and His messenger and
strive after corruption inthe land (fee al-ardi)
will be that they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet
on alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land
(mina al-ardi). Such will be their degradation in the world,
and in the Hereafter theirs will be an awful doom; S. 5:33 Pickthall
Where does Osama Abdallah suggest that those who fight against Allah should
be banished to? If he is convinced that "the land" is a mistranslation for
"al-ardi" with the definite article, and the expression must refer to "the
Earth", will the Muslim community pay the expense to send these people to Mars?
Since this would have been rather difficult during Muhammad’s time, maybe
Abdallah would like to turn this verse into another scientific miracle and
amazing prophecy about future space travel in order to save his misguided
translation of "al-ardi" in S. 30:3?
The foregoing examples clearly show that the definite article does nothing to
change the meaning of ardi from land to earth. This is simply Abdallah’s
wishful thinking.
Finding only one such passage would already have been sufficient to establish
the case, but the large number of such passages in the Quran once again exposes
Osama Abdallah’s utter ignorance about his own book. He simply does not even
know the basics of what he pretends to be an expert on.
My response:
Actually I strongly disagree, because Allah Almighty's reference to earth was as a
whole and not partial. Them existing on certain parts of the earth does
not mean that when Allah Almighty talked about the evil that they caused on
earth He didn't refer to the entire globe as a whole, because their evilness:
1- Was not isolated. It became
rather known to other nations and as a result it impacted (regardless
of how little or big) on them.
2- Earth was created by Allah Almighty and
is owned by Allah Almighty, and hence, it is only normal for Him to refer to it
as a whole. This is similar to us telling our children
"do not mess up the house!"
"house"
here is referring to the entire house, even though the children's misbehavior is only
limited to a very small portion of the house. But yet, we still use
"house."
Let's assume you're right for a second:
Let us go ahead and assume that your interpretation above is correct.
This still does not refute the scientific notion that exists in Noble Verses
30:2-3 because:
1- Earth can be interpreted both ways (my
way and yours).
2- When science today (1500 years later)
tells us that the land the Romans were defeated in was proven to be the lowest
area on earth, and Allah Almighty Said just that in the Noble Verses, then I am
within my rights to believe that my interpretation was the correct one.
And like I said above and proved through the "do not
mess up the house" example, there is no evidence that Allah Almighty
did not mean to refer to the ENTIRE EARTH in any of the Noble Verses that were
presented above. And as everyone who speaks Arabic knows,
"ard" means none other than "earth" in Arabic!
They wrote:
The Exegetes
The translators aren’t the only ones to disagree with Abdallah’s rendering of
the Arabic; the Muslim exegetes are also against him on this point:
in the nearer [part of the] land, that is, in the Byzantine land [that
lies] NEAREST TO PERSIA in Mesopotamia (al-Jazira). There the
two armies met and the Persians were the ones who had begun the invasion.
But they, that is the Byzantines, after their vanquishing (ghalabihim:
the verbal noun [ghalab] has been annexed to the direct object [hum],
in other words, ghalabatu faris iyyahum, 'the Persians' vanquishing
of them') shall be the victors, over the Persians, (Tafsir al-Jalalayn;
source; bold and underline emphasis ours)
(In the nearer land) CLOSE TO PERSIA and, as a consequence,
the believers were aggrieved while the idolaters rejoiced, saying: "We shall
defeat the believers just as the Persians defeated the Romans", but then
Allah proceeded to mention their victory (and they) i.e. the Romans, (after
their defeat) at the hand of the Persians (will be victorious) over the
Persians. (Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs;
source; bold and underline emphasis ours)
Being near or close to Persia can refer to a host of places such as
Constantinople (modern day Turkey), which makes more sense than the Dead Sea
since this area served as the capital of the eastern part of the Byzantine
Empire.
These Ayat were revealed about the victory of Sabur, the king of Persia,
over Ash-Sham (Greater Syria), the adjoining partisan states
of the Arabian Peninsula, and the outlying regions of the land of the
Romans. Heraclius, the emperor of the Romans, was forced to flee to
Constantinople where he was besieged for a lengthy period. Then Heraclius
regained the upper hand. Imam Ahmad recorded that Ibn `Abbas, may Allah be
pleased with him, commented on this Ayah… (Tafsir Ibn Kathir)
… According to Hafiz Ibn Hajar, this war was fought in Syria
at a place between Adhru‘at and Busra… (Mufti Shafi Uthmani, Maariful
Quran, Volume 6, p. 718;
source; bold and underline emphasis ours)
Again, Syria is not the Dead Sea.
The defeats and victories spoken of above relate to the last phases of
the centuries-long struggle between the Byzantine and Persian Empires.
During the early years of the seventh century the Persians conquered parts
of Syria and Anatolia, "the lands close-by", i.e., near the heartland of
the Byzantine umpire;in 613 they took Damascus and in 614,
Jerusalem; Egypt fell to them in 615–16, and at the same time they laid
siege to Constantinople itself. At the time of the revelation of this surah
- about the seventh year before the hijrah, corresponding to 615 or 616
of the Christian era - the total destruction of the Byzantine Empire
seemed imminent. The few Muslims around the Prophet were despondent on
hearing the news of the utter discomfiture of the Byzantines, who were
Christians and, as such, believed in the One God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The pagan Quraysh, on the
other hand, sympathized with the Persians who, they thought, would vindicate
their own opposition to the One-God idea. When Muhammad enunciated the above
Quran-verses predicting a Byzantine victory "within a few years", this
prophecy was received with derision by the Quraysh. Now the term bid
(commonly rendered as "a few") denotes any number between three and ten;
and, as it happened, in 622 – i.e., six or seven years after the Quranic
prediction - the tide turned in favour of the Byzantines. In that year,
Emperor Heraclius succeeded in defeating the Persians at Issus, south of the
Taurus Mountains, and subsequently drove them out of Asia Minor. By 624, he
carried the war into Persian territory and thus put the enemy on the
defensive: and in the beginning of December, 626, the Persian armies were
completely routed by the Byzantines.] And on that day will the believers
[too, have cause to] rejoice (5) in God’s succour: [This is a prediction of
the battle of Badr, which was to take place eight or nine years later, in
the month of Ramadan, 2 H. (corresponding to January, 624, of the Christian
era), when the Muslims decisively defeated a very much superior force of
pagan Quraysh (see introductory note to surah 8). The expression "on that
day" has in this context the meaning of "at the same time", for although the
battle of Badr began and ended on one day, the victories of Heraclius over
the Persians took some years to materialize. (Muhammad Asad, The Message
of the Qur'an [Dar Al-Andalus Limited, 3 Library Ramp, Gibraltar; rpt.
1993], p. 617: http://www.geocities.com/masad02/021; bold and capital
emphasis ours)
3a. The struggle between Persia and the Roman Empire had existed a
long time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). The great struggle, in which Persia was victorious, began in 602
of the Christian era, when Chosroes II of Persia began war with Rome to
avenge the death of Maurice, who was murdered by Phocas. "His armies
plundered Syria and Asia Minor, and in 608 advanced to Chalcedon. In 613 and
614 Damascus and Jerusalem were taken by the General Shahabaraz, and the
Holy Cross was carried away in triumph…" It was in the year 615 or 616 that
this revelation came to the Prophet… (Maulana Muhammad Ali, Holy Qur’an:
Arabic Text with English Translation, Commentary and comprehensive
Introduction;
source)
Period of Revelation
The period of the revelation of this Surah is determined absolutely by
the historical event that has been mentioned at the outset. It says: "The
Romans have been vanquished in the neighboring land." In those days the
Byzantine occupied territories adjacent to Arabia were Jordan, Syria and
Palestine, and in these territories the Romans were completely
overpowered by the Iranians in 615 A. D. Therefore, it can be said with
absolute certainty that this Surah was sent down in the same year, and
this was the year in which the migration to Habash took place...
Heraclius could not stop this storm. The very first news that he received
from the East after ascending the throne was that of the Iranian occupation
of Antioch. After this Damascus fell in 613 A. D. Then in 614 A.D. the
Iranians occupying Jerusalem played havoc with the Christian world.
Ninety thousand Christians were massacred and the Holy Sepulcher was
desecrated. The Original Cross on which, according to the Christian belief,
Jesus had died was seized and carried to Mada'in. The chief priest Zacharia
was taken prisoner and all the important churches of the city were
destroyed. How puffed up was Khusrau Parvez at this victory can be judged
from the letter that he wrote to Heraclius from Jerusalem. He wrote: "From
Khusrau, the greatest of all gods, the master of the whole world: To
Heraclius, his most wretched and most stupid servant: ‘You say that you have
trust in your Lord. Why didn't then your Lord save Jerusalem from me?’"
Within a year after this victory the Iranian armies over-ran Jordan,
Palestine and the whole of the Sinai Peninsula, and reached the frontiers of
Egypt. In those very days another conflict of a far greater historical
consequence was going on in Makkah. The believers in One God, under the
leadership of the Prophet Muhammad (may Allah's peace be upon him), were
fighting for their existence against the followers of shirk under the
command of the chiefs of the Quraish, and the conflict had reached such a
stage that in 615 A. D., a substantial number of the Muslims had to
leave their homes and take refuge with the Christian kingdom of Habash,
which was an ally of the Byzantine Empire. In those days the Sassanid
victories against Byzantium were the talk of the town, and the pagans of
Makkah were delighted and were taunting the Muslims to the effect: "Look the
fire worshipers of Iran are winning victories and the Christian believers in
Revelation and Prophethood are being routed everywhere. Likewise, we, the
idol worshipers of Arabia, will exterminate you and your religion."
These were the conditions when this Surah of the Quran was sent down,
and in it a prediction was made, saying: "The Romans have been vanquished in
the neighboring land and within a few years after their defeat, they shall
be victorious. And it will be the day when the believers will rejoice in the
victory granted by Allah." It contained not one but two predictions: First,
the Romans shall be Victorious; and second, the Muslims also shall win a
victory at the same time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). Apparently, there was not a remote chance of the
fulfillment of the either prediction in the next few years… (Syed Abu-Ala’
Maududi’s Chapter Introductions to the Qur'an;
source)
The above sources date this particular Surah sometime between 615-616 AD,
around the time that the Persians had laid siege to Constantinople, providing
additional support that this may in fact be the location which the Quran has in
view since it is near Persia.
Finally,
… The defeat, ‘in a land close by’ must refer to Syria and Palestine.
Jerusalem was lost in 614-615 A.D., shortly before this sura was revealed.
(Abdullah Yusuf Ali, The Holy Qur’an, Translation and Commentary, n.
3505; bold emphasis ours)
… Bidh’un in the text means a short period - a period of from
three to nine years. The period between the loss OF JERUSALEM (614-15) by
the Romans and their victory at Issus (622) was seven years, and that to
the penetration of Persia by Heraclius was nine years. (Ibid., n. 3507; bold
and capital emphasis ours)
And:
14. Khusrau Parwiz called himself the son of the Emperor Maurice. During
his refuge at Constantinople he had married a Byzantine wife. In Nizami’s
romance she is known as Maryam. According to some historians she was a
daughter of the Emperor Maurice, but Gibbon throws doubt on that
relationship. In any case he used the resources of the Persian Empire to
fight the usurper Phocas. He invaded the Byzantine Empire in 603. The war
between the Persian and the Romans became a national war and continued after
the fall of Phocas in 610. The Persians had sweeping victories, and
conquered Aleppo, Antioch, and the chief Syrian cities, including Damascus,
in 611. Jerusalem fell to their arms in 614-615, just 8 to 7 years before
the sacred Hijrat. The city was burnt and pillaged, and the Christians
were massacred, the churches were burnt, the burial-place of Christ was
itself insulted, and many relics including the ‘true Cross’ on which the
Christians believed that Christ had been crucified, were carried away to
Persia. The priests of the Persian religion celebrated an exultant triumph
over the priests of Christ. In this pillage and massacre the Persians were
assisted by a crowd of Jews, who were discontented with the Christian
domination, and the Pagan Arabs to whom any opportunity of plunder and
destruction was in itself welcome. It is probably this striking event -
the victory of the Persians over the Roman Empire - which is referred to
Sura XXX (Rum) of the Qur’an... (Ibid., appendix X, pp 1072-1073;
bold emphasis ours)
Pay careful attention that none of the above sources mention the Dead Sea as
the place where the Romans suffered defeat. The closest we get is Jerusalem
which, as we stated earlier, is not the same as the Dead Sea and happens to
actually be above sea level. Therefore, Jerusalem IS NOT the lowest point on the
earth.
General history agrees with these Muslim commentators that the Romans were
defeated by the Persians on many fronts, including Syria, Constantinople, and
Jerusalem, but none reports about a decisive battle having taken place at the
Dead Sea. Thus, if that verse refers to defeat of the Romans by the Persians, it
cannot speak about the Dead Sea.
My response:
Nothing of substance was mentioned here because:
1- I have provided the scientific evidence
that proved that the northern part of the Middle East is indeed the lowest
region on earth.
2- I have proven that "ard" means none
other than "earth" in English.
3- As to the timing of the Prophecy, I
have destroyed Sam Shamoun's absurd point and proved that the victory happened
in less than 9 years, and also showed him the very same quote,
"few years," used in his Bible along with
"many years" also used in his Bible at:
https://www.answering-christianity.com/is_muhammad_true_prophet.htm:
Another Challenge: Please
demonstrate to us from your sources how Jesus was born on December 25th. And also,
why are there many Christians miserably contradicting each others regarding their beliefs
on the time Jesus was born? Some believe he was born during Winter; others believe
he was born during Spring; other believe he was born in Summer; and other believe he was
born during the Fall.
Conclusion:
The
foul-mouthed
Sam Shamoun and Jochen Katz have both miserably failed to disprove the Noble
Quran's Scientific Miracle about the region where the Romans were defeated is
the lowest region on earth. I would like to invite the reader to visit
The
Scientific Miracles in the Noble Quran section to see many other
scientific claims and notions that Allah Almighty mentioned in the Noble Quran
were confirmed by science today.
All praises and glory are due to Allah Almighty alone!
The Noble Quran on the Origin of the
Universe. This article has pictures and quotes from
Western scientific books that accurately confirm the astronomical claims of the Noble
Quran. The Noble Quran was the only book that claimed that the universe originated
from Hot Gas or Smoke. Science proved that this claim is true.
[079:031] From
it, He produced its
own water and pasture.
Below in this article, we'll see the ample proofs that the earth was
indeed SPREAD OUT SPHERICALLY.
And Scientists have proven that water does indeed originate from its
planets when they're hot enough and are located in the Goldilocks
Zone when orbiting their sun.
As thoroughly detailed in
this detailed article,
I thoroughly demonstrated using 7 encyclopedic dictionaries that
DAHA دحاها
means:
1- To push.
2- To throw.
دحا (daha): دفعه و رمى به (dafa'aahu wa ramaa bih)
Caused it to move, pushed it, or threw it.
دحا الصبي المِدحاةَ أي دفع الصبي المِدحاةَ Daha the
boy the rolling toy, means the boy pushed the rolling toy.
3- To make
something roll,
as inDAHA
the barrel from the top of the hill,
which means he rolled it down from the top of the hill. Also, this
is where the Arabic word DAHRAJA is derived from, which means to
make something roll down.
4- To make
something round.
I used several examples forROUND
AND BULGED TUMMY,
and making round objects. I even used a Hadith from Prophet
Muhammad, peace be upon him, when he said:
In Prophet Muhammad's Hadith: كان لأسامة بطننٌ مُندحٌ
اي متسع Osama had a round and big tummy.
Also the dictionary says:
الدحداح هو المستدير الململم The dahdaah is the
person who is ROUND and STOCKY.
و بطنٌ مُنداحُ أي خارخٌ مُدوّر His tummy is
mun-daahun means it is OUT THERE AND ROUND مُدوّر.
So when Allah Almighty DAHA THE EARTH, it means that
Allah AlmightyEXPANDED
IT SPHERICALLYthrough
rotating around itself and moving in its orbit in space. And this
is why Allah Almighty Said after that (after He DAHAHA), He brought
forth from itits
water and pasture.
Science has proven this to be 100% accurate and True:
1-
Water was brought forth from the earth - Science confirmed it and
the Holy Quran claimed it 1400 years ago:
Note:
In Article #3'S video in
the article, the collision of the iron-planet made our earth
EGG-SHAPED, according to the Scientists and the
video.
2-
Our earth expanded and produced its own water:
And
For ample more details, please visit:
The sun never ceases nor
disappears [1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]:
عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما ان
رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سئل :هذه المغارب اين تغرب ؟ وهذه
المطالع اين تطلع ؟ فقال صلى الله عليه وسلم هي على رسلها لا تبرح ولا
تزول , تغرب عن قوم وتطلع على قوم ,وتغرب عن قوم وتطلع , فقوم يقولون
غربت ,وقوم يقولون طلعت
"Ibn Abbas
narrated on Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that the Prophet
was asked: Where does the sun go after all of these sunsets? And
where does it come from after all of these sunrises? The Prophet,
peace be upon him, replied: It is in constant motion. It
doesn't stop nor disappear. It sets on people and
rises on others, and it sets on people and rises on others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust). So
people would say it has risen while others say it has set."
Sources:
1- Jami'a Al-Usool li-ibn
Al-Atheer.
جامع الأصول لابن الأثير
2- Musnad Al-Imam Abi Is'haq
Al-Hamadani
مسند الامام ابي اسحاق الهمداني
3- Al-Ijaz Al-Ilmi Fe Al-Sunna
Al-Nabawiyyah, Dr. Zahloul Al-Najjar, Page 132.
Allah Almighty
in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
- Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1]. - Is rotating around itself. - Is moving in space in
curvy orbits [2]. - Is in constant motion. - Is suspended in space. - Is
swimming in space. - Is traveling through the constantly
expanding universe [3].
- The
sunsetless
North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran
[4].
Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the
aurora lights covering the
horizons of space above the earth when he
was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated
Abdullah: "Regarding
the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad)
did see. Of
the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!"
(Quran 53.18)
That the Prophet had seen a green
carpet spread all over the
horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."
(Translation of Sahih
Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)
Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said
this about his journey to the farthest
northern lands and people:
18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على
قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر
"Until he reached near
حتى اذا بلغ
where the sun is up
مطلع
الشمس,
he found it above
وجدها تطلع على
people
قوم
whom We
made no cover for them from it
لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر.
(The Noble Quran, 18:90)"
Noble Verse(s)
18:91
Rodwell:
[018:091]
Thus it was.
And we had
full knowledge
of the forces that were with him.
Arabic (Read from right to
left. Also, all png image files: [1]
[2]. Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):
18:91 كذلك
وقد احطنا
بما لديه خبرا
Prophet Muhammad
"did see"
(Quran 53.18)
the
Aurora Lights
covering the horizons above the earth from
space. Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the
farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and
"Thus
it was", Allah Almighty
completed the "full
knowledge" regarding
Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.
This
further supports the story below about
Dhil-Qarnayn's journey
to the farthest northern lands and people (The
sunsetless [4]
North Pole Quran-miracle). They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says. They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93). For example, can you read or say this:
"Vaðlaheiðarvegavinnuverkfærageymsluskúrslyklakippuhringurinn" ?? This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly. The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly. The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:
The early Muslims believed that Dhil Qarnayn reached the people of the farthest norths of the earth. The following is a map of Al-Sharif Al-Idrisi in year 1154 giving the geographic location of where Dhil Qarnayn went according to the understanding of the early Muslims of Noble Verses 18:83-100:
Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"
Dhil = One who has. قرنين Qarnayn = two horns. Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn). Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.
Noble Verses
53:18 and 18:91
are also prophetically linked together;
that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين
saw. Also visit:
(Video from NASA filming the Green Carpet Aurora Lights from space)
Again, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:
Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!" (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)
-
The Glorious Quran also speaks about
many earths
[5]
and not just earth.
- The Glorious Quran
predicts 11 planets in our
solar system [6].
In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31). The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors". The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book. It contains no scientific error. Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:
1- The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran. The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.
Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).
Did Prophet Muhammad know think
that the earth was spherical or flat?
Answer:
In this Hadith, above, he certainly seems to have
known this fact very well. And this Hadith is even older than Sahih
Bukhari. It is important to know that Imam Bukhari and others have
declared that they have discarded
thousands of Hadiths:
This is to keep their volumes as simple and manageable as possible.
So it is quite possible that the Prophet spoke about the earth being
spherical, and the Glorious Quran certainly did, and people
just dismissed them as nonsense.
I have covered your question in great details at:
Also, ample proofs for several of
the Glorious Quran's Arabic words' definitions, from my Arabic-English and English-Arabic
dictionaries, that prove that the earth is indeed spherical,
rotating around its axle, and is suspended in space, are provided in
the following important link:
Detailed rebuttal about the shape of the Earth in the
Glorious Quran. Detailed discussion about SUTIHAT.
Now, in Noble
Verses 79:30-32, Allah Almighty Says:
And the earth after that He has spherically expanded
Brought forth from it its water and pasture
and theMOUNTAINS
HE SET FIRMLY.
Indeed, scientists have proven that:
1-
The earth has spherically expanded.
2-
The earth produced its water and pasture on a large scale as a
result.I
have posted a Scientific Video from History Channel proving this:
3-
The mountains due to this expansion were formed;due
to the plate tectonics movements,
which caused for land to be pushed on top of each other, which
formed mountains and hills. You can learn about this at:
Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind. For example:
1- The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513times throughout the Glorious Quran. Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran. See detailed listing here.
Coincidence? See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).
2- Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for
950 years. Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters. You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.
3- Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is: - Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1]. - Is rotating around itself. - Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2]. - Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day. NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode). It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.
Quran: All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1]قول (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed). See also the 39+ members of trinity. Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
"I cannot do anything on my own." (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!). I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!! I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
John 5:31 "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!"
GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses. GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient! Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more"; ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in
Luke 6:40) Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.
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Lake
Kinneret is so-called because it is shaped like a harp, the name Kinneret
originates from the word ‘kinnor’ which means harp. The lake is also known on
modern maps as Lake Galilee or Lake Tiberius. The name Galilee derives from
where it is located.
