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Rebuttal to Craig Winn "Prophet of Doom: Chapter 4" article:

This article is a rebuttal to Craig Winn's article that is located at:   http://www../chapter4.html.

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Craig Winn purposely twisted and modified the English translations that he used!  He changes words in translations and uses non-Muslim ones.  I've noticed this a lot through his translations of the Noble Verses that he used from the Noble Quran.

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List of Craig Winn's fabricated lies and deliberate alteration of quotes, WITH CLEAR-CUT PROOFS!

Before we get into the detailed rebuttal of this article, let's look at the following from his Bibles:

Having said all of that, let us now proceed:

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CHAPTER 4

DISHONEST ABE

“Abraham was tested by circumcision, shaving his pubic hair,
washing the fore-part and rear, using a toothstick,
and plucking his armpits.”

    Nothing is more essential to Islam’s credibility than Muhammad’s version of Abraham. Islam must prove that he was a Muslim, that his God was Allah, and that he worshiped in Mecca. Recognizing this, Muhammad tried desperately to make the case.
    We pick up the trail in Tabari’s History with something that sounds like Hitler’s idea of Arian supremacy. Tabari II:21 “Ham [Africans] begat all those who are black and curly-haired, while Japheth [Turks] begat all those who are full-faced with small eyes, and Shem [Arabs] begat everyone who is handsome of face with beautiful hair. Noah prayed that the hair of Ham’s descendants would not grow beyond their ears, and that whenever his descendants met the children of Shem, the latter would enslave them.” The slavery theme keeps reappearing because Muhammad used the slave trade to finance the spread of Islam. Turning Noah into a racist to justify such behavior wasn’t beneath Islam’s prophet—but then again, little was.
    We’re going to pass by Muhammad’s history lesson on the mythical tribes of Ad and Thamud. Their battles with the Almighty seemed important to Muhammad as he dedicated scores of Hadith to them. But I want to focus on the Islamic path to Abraham as it lies at the core of the prophet’s deception. Tabari II:50 “Nimrod was Abraham’s master and wanted him burned…. The first king who ruled over all the earth was Nimrod. There were four such kings who ruled all the earth: Nimrod, Solomon bin David, Dhu’l-Qarnain, and Nebuchadnezzar—two believers [ Muslims] and two infidels.” Nimrod only ruled a city-state. Solomon’s kingdom only included a portion of the Middle East. Nebuchadnezzar’s realm like that of Dhu’l-Qarnain, as Alexander the Great, was large, but neither ruled over the whole earth. As for two of them being Muslims—Muhammad and Allah are again mistaken. There wasn’t a Muslim in the batch.
    According to Ishaq’s Sira: Tabari II:50 “Allah desired to send Abraham as an argument against his people and as a messenger to His worshippers since there had been no messengers between Noah and Abraham except Hud and Salih [the mythical rulers of Ad and Thamud].” If that’s true, there couldn’t have been Muslim worshippers. A thousand years had passed with no religious communication. Allah said he destroyed the Ad and Thamud and he never suggests Abraham visited them. So in an attempt to establish a religious context for his scam, Muhammad destroyed it. The scenario he has just laid out precludes worshippers, and without them, all he has shared thus far concerning the establishment of Islamic rites and the veneration of the Ka’aba, could not have been passed along.
   “As time drew near, the astrologers came to Nimrod, saying, ‘We have learned from our lore that a boy will be born in this city of yours who will be called Abraham. He will abandon your religion and break your idols in such and such a month and year.” Muslims are attempting to bestow on Abraham, whom they view as the father of Islam, the same kind of birth announcement enjoyed by Yahshua, the founder of Christianity, but they didn’t have a clue when either man actually lived.
    Both secular and scriptural histories tell us that Nimrod died centuries before Abraham was born. The clay tablets that were unearthed near ancient Babylon starting in the late 19th century suggest Nimrod died violently at the age of forty around 2800 B.C., two generations after the great flood. Apart from the Bible, Abraham is not as well known. Yet, archeologists have been able to confirm the Biblical accounting of when he lived by unearthing the places the Scriptures say he visited or that coexisted during his time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). They have found dozens of corroborating artifacts that confirm Abraham lived between 2100 B.C. and 1950 B.C. These men were not contemporaries.
    Since their lives were separated by 700 years, everything Muhammad claims about them is both suspect and uninspired. Tabari II:53 “Another story about Abraham is that a star rose over Nimrod so bright that it blotted out the light of the sun and the moon. He became frightened and called the magicians, soothsayers, and prognosticators to ask about it. They said, ‘A man will arise in your domain whose destiny is to destroy you and your rule.’ Nimrod lived in Babylon but he left his town and moved to another, forcing all men to go with him but leaving the women. He ordered that any male child who was born should be slain.” This is a blatant, although not believable, rip-off of the star of Bethlehem that directed wise men to Christ and of King Herod killing the male children born that year in Bethlehem.
    The Bible tells us that Abram, the future Abraham, was born in Ur, the great Chaldean city, to Terah. His journey to the Promised Land is detailed in Genesis 11. Muhammad says: “Some task in Babylon came up for which Nimrod could trust only Azar, the father of Abraham. He sent him to do the job, saying, ‘See that you do not have intercourse with your wife.’ Azar said to him, ‘I am too tenacious in my religion for that.’ But when he entered Babylon he visited his wife and could not control himself. He had intercourse with her and fled to a town called Ur.”
    Tabari II:53 “When Abraham’s mother found that she was in labor she went out to a cave near her house and bore Abraham. She shut the cave up on him and returned home. Later when she went to see how he had done, she found him alive, sucking his thumb. Allah placed Abraham’s sustenance in it.” Muhammad was abandoned by his mother at birth, so he invented this story to mimic his own childhood.
    Tabari II:51 “Abraham had been in the cave for fifteen months when he said to his mother, ‘Take me out that I may look around.’” Why bother? After fifteen months of living in a cave, he would have been blind. “So she took him out one evening and he looked about and thought of the creation of the heavens and the earth and said, ‘Verily the One who created me and fed me is my Lord—I have no other god but Him.’” Thus, an infant conceived the first pillar of Islam. But alas, the Hadith and Qur’an quickly plummet into spiritual delirium. “He looked out at the sky and saw a star. ‘This is my Lord.’ He followed it with his eyes until it disappeared. When it set he said, ‘I do not like things that set.’ Then he saw the moon rising and said, ‘This is my Lord.’ [Perceptive kid—Allah began his life as a moon deity.] And he followed it until it disappeared. When it set, he said, ‘If my Lord did not guide me, I would have gone astray.’” A fifteen-month-old baby converts from paganism to Islam by watching the moon.  Sure, why not.
    Like so many Islamic Traditions, these were written to provide the context the Qur’an lacks. Let’s dive into the 6th surah to hear what Allah has to say: 006.074 “When Abraham said to his sire, Azar: ‘Why do you take idols for gods? I find you and your people in manifest error.’ Thus We showed Abraham the visible and invisible kingdom of the heavens and earth that he might be of those who are sure and believe. So when night overshadowed him, he saw a star. Said he: ‘This is my Lord?’ When it set, he said: ‘I do not love the setting ones.’ When he saw the moon rising, he said: ‘This is my Lord?’ When it set, he said: ‘If my Lord had not guided me I would be of the erring people who go astray.’” This is embarrassing. The conversation condemns the message. After Allah personally showed Abe his kingdom so that he might be sure, the Islamic babe turns to the sky, the source of idols, and says, “This is my Lord.” What is it about Islam that turns everyone’s brains to mush—Allah’s included?
    006.078 “Then when he saw the sun rising, he said: ‘My Lord is surely this, the greatest of all.’ So when it set, he said: ‘O my people, I am through with those. Surely I have turned my face toward Him who originated the heavens and earth, and I am not a polytheist.’” The sun, the most popular pagan deity, is now god, never mind it was the moon in the preceding Tradition. After becoming an idolater, he magically turns and says he’s through with idols. And after asking a star, the moon, and the sun if they were god, he says he’s not a polytheist. All the context in the world, all the explanations ever written, can’t undo the damage the Qur’an does to itself.
    Tabari explains it this way: Tabari II:51 “When day came upon Abraham and the sun rose, he saw the greatness of the sun and saw that here was something with more light than he had ever seen before. He said, ‘This is my Lord! This is greater!’ And when it set he exclaimed, ‘O my people, I am free from all the things which you associate with Him.’” Muhammad wants us to believe that all it took to “free” this fifteen-month old baby from pagan idolatry, worshiping the sun, moon, and stars, to become a Muslim in the oneness of Allah was for the sun to set.
    006.080 “His people disputed with him.” What people? Depending upon whether you believe Muhammad’s Hadith or Allah’s Qur’an, he’s with his mom or dad. He’s a toddler, having just emerged from a cave for the first time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). “He said: ‘Do you dispute with me respecting Allah? He has guided me. I do not fear those that you set up with Him, unless my Lord pleases; my Lord comprehends all things; will you not mind?’”
    Let me see if I can decipher this. Over the course of one brief conversation, dishonest Abe tells his father that he and his people are in manifest error, and that idolatry is bad. After visiting heaven he says that big bright shiny things are gods, and that he is not a polytheist. Then he disputes with people he has never seen about their religion. He even says that he doesn’t fear their gods, unless of course, his god wants him to fear them. And, wouldn’t you know it, after such drivel, he tells them to mind him. This Qur’anic passage destroys the Islamic myth of divine inspiration, for this is not some minor event in the life of Islam. Abraham is purported to be the religion’s founder, and this is his moment of awakening.
    006.081 “Why should I fear what you have set up with Allah, that for which He has not sent down to you any authority.” We can only assume that the Abe babe is speaking of idols his people have erected in shrines like the Ka’aba. “O my father! Why do you worship that which neither hears, nor sees, nor can in any way help you?” Even something as simple as this indicts Muhammad. It’s a rip off. As we shall see in upcoming chapters, Arabian Hanifs (monotheists) during Muhammad’s day had it figured out. They had said of the rock idols in the Ka’aba, “Why do you worship that which neither hears, nor sees, nor can help you in any way?”
   “Do you reject my gods, Abraham? If you do not cease this, I shall stone you.” As sick as this sounds, it depicts Muslim behavior. If a son renounces Islam, his father will kill him. One of my friends, a former Muslim, had this very thing happen to him. Hearing the news, his loving father reached for his gun and fired it at his son, narrowly missing him. Mark Gabriel, who holds a Ph.D. in Islamic History, wrote a book about his experience called: Islam and Terror.
    006.083 “And this was Our argument which we gave to Abraham against his people. And We gave him Ishaq (Isaac) and Yah’qub (Jacob) [Oops. Abraham was given Isaac and Ishmael. Jacob came later]; each did We guide, and Nuh (Noah) did We guide before, and of his descendants, David and Solomon, and Job and Joseph and Moses and Aaron; and thus do We reward those who do good (following Muhammad’s example in the Sunnah). And Zachariah and Yahya (John), Isa (Jesus) and Elias; every one was of the good [i.e. Muslims]; And Ishmael and Elisha and Jonah and Lot and every one We preferred above men and jinn.” One of the many problems with the Qur’an is that Allah was no brighter than Muhammad. Job was a gentile and a contemporary of Abraham. As such he could neither be Abe’s descendant nor follow Solomon.
    I am reasonably certain that the Yathrib Jews read their scriptures correctly to Muhammad. But having a poor memory, and a heinous agenda, he got them all fouled up. I don't say that to be mean spirited, just informative. Muhammad will convict himself of having a heinous agenda a thousand times over before we are through. As prophets go, he was pretty pathetic.
    Returning to the Islamicized Abraham, Ibn Ishaq tells us: Tabari II:52 “Then Abraham returned to his father Azar, having seen the right course. He had recognized his Lord.” Actually, all he had done was recognize who his Lord wasn’t. And while that may sound picky, that’s all Muhammad really did. Ultimately, he promoted the largest of the Meccan rock idols, Allah, and denounced the rest. “He was free of the religion of his people, but he did not tell them that.” This, too, is revisionism for the sake of Muhammad. Allah’s Messenger kept quiet about his first “revelation” for several years.
    One of the most repetitive and damning indictments in the Qur’an comes from the Meccans. They recognized that Muhammad’s notion of casting the smaller Ka’aba idols aside so that the largest idol could be feared as the one true god was lunacy. A big stone was no more god than a bunch of little ones. Ishaq:38 “Every house had an idol. When Allah sent Muhammad with the message of monotheism, the Quraysh said: ‘Would he make many gods into one god? This is a strange thing.’” So Muhammad, ever in character, changed the story of the great Hebrew patriarch Abraham to make his behavior seem inspired.
    This sorry tale is chronicled in both the Hadith and Qur’an. Tabari II:55 “His father told him, ‘Abraham, we have a festival. If you go to it you will learn to like our religion.’ The festival came and they went to it. On the way Abraham threw himself down and said, ‘I am sick. My foot hurts.’ When they went away he called to the last of them. ‘I shall deal with your idols after you have gone away and turned your backs.’ Abraham went to the house of the gods which was in a great hall. Opposite the entrance was a great idol, and at his side a smaller one, and next to him a smaller one, and so on.” Too bad Allah didn’t get out more. He would have known that in Abraham’s day the Temple of Ur housed just one god—Sin—a masculine moon deity like himself. Unlike the Ka’aba, there weren’t a bunch of rock idols lying around.
    “Azar made a living making the idols which his people worshipped, and he employed Abraham to sell them. Abraham would call out, ‘Who will buy what will be of no use to him?’ So they became unsellable. He would take them to the river and point their heads at it and say, ‘Drink!’ mocking his people. At length his mocking spread about among the inhabitants of his town, although Nimrod did not hear of it. Then when the time seemed right to Abraham to reveal to his people the error of what they were doing, and to tell them of Allah’s command and of how to pray, he glanced up at the stars and said, ‘I feel sick.’ They fled from him when they heard it, but Abraham had only said it to make them go away so that he could do what he wanted with their idols. When they left he went to the idols and brought them food. He said, ‘Will you not eat? What is the matter? Why do you not speak?’ reproaching their falsely elevated position and mocking them.”
    If you’ve got one, open your Qur’an to the 37th surah. So as not to take Allah’s word out of context, let’s read from the beginning, picking up the highlights as we go along. Seeing Allah as he really is will help elucidate the Islamic mystery. The peace-loving god tells his troops: “By those (angels) arranged in battle ranks who are strong in repelling and thus proclaim the Message of Allah! Verily, your Ilah (God) is one!” Thank god for small favors. 037.006 “We have decked the lower heaven with stars to protect them against all rebellious evil spirits, and provide security from every forward devil. So they cannot listen to the highest chiefs for they are pelted from every side, repulsed; they are under a perpetual torment, being driven off. Except such as they snatch away something by stealth, but then they are pursued by a flaming fire of piercing brightness.” In Islam, stars are used to guard against forward devils. The Islamic Ilah (God) named Allah would have us believe that he dissuades and torments “evil spirits” with physical objects.
    037.011 “Just ask their opinion (Muhammad). [Whose opinion—the stars’, the rebellious evil spirits’?] Are they the more difficult to create, or the other beings We have created? Them have We created out of a sticky clay! Are they stronger as a creation? Truly dost thou marvel, while they ridicule.” Nay, I dost both marvel and ridicule. 037.013 “When they are admonished, pay no heed. When they see a Sign, [they] turn it to mockery, and incite one another to scoff. And say, ‘This is nothing but evident sorcery!’” I agree.
    037.016 “What! When we die, and become dust and bones, shall we be raised up and also our fathers of old? Say (Muhammad): ‘Yea, and ye shall then be humiliated: Ye, in truth; and ye will be brought low.’” I suppose some Muslim scholar thought translating the Qur’an into Elizabethan English would make it sound religious. But lo, methinks it helpeth thee not. For your sake and mine, I will continue to edit most of the archaic language out of the text. I have also made a habit of correcting much of Allah’s grammar, punctuation, verbosity, and oblique sentence structure. 037.019 “Then will be a single cry; and behold, they will stare! They will say, ‘Woe to us! This is the Day of Doom.’ This you denied! Assemble the wrong-doers and their wives and the things they worshipped besides Allah, then lead them to the fierce flaming fires of Hell.” Even cleaned up, the message is repulsive.
    Allah stoops to interrogate his captives. 037.024 “But stop them, for they are to be questioned. ‘What is the matter with you that you do not help each other?’ Nay, but this day they make full submission.... ‘The sentence has come against us: we shall taste the punishment.’” Remember, according to Islam, people are never given a choice. They are predestined at birth to perish in hell’s fire. Thus, this questioning is for Allah’s entertainment. 037.033 “Truly, they will all share at the Penalty of Doom. That is how We shall deal with the Mujrimun (non-Muslims). For when they were told that there is no ilah (god) but Allah, they puffed themselves up with pride and were scornful. They said: ‘What, shall we give up our alihah (gods) for the sake of an insane possessed poet?’” This was “revealed” so Muhammad could lash out at the Meccans. They called him insane for turning many idols into one god. They said he was demon-possessed due to the hellish tone of his Qur’an.
    As you might expect, Allah didn’t see it that way. Muhammad’s alter ego had but one spokesperson. If he faltered, Allah crumbled with him. 037.037 “Nay, he has come with the truth, and he confirms the Message of the messengers before him. You shall indeed taste the grievous penalty of painful doom.” Tease Muhammad and Allah will burn you. It’s the Qur’an’s never-ending taunt.
    037.040 “Save the chosen slaves of Allah; For them there is a known provision: Fruits, Delights; they will be honored in the Gardens of Pleasure, on thrones facing one another. Round them will be passed a cup of pure white wine, delicious to the drinkers, free from ghoul (hurt) or intoxication, nor shall you be made mad or exhausted thereby.” We’ve got the thrones and Allah’s special brew, now all we need are the virgins. “And with them will be Qasirat-at-Tarf (virgin females), restraining their glances (desiring none but you), with big, beautiful eyes. As if they were (sheltered) eggs, preserved.”
    If the martyrs get virgins, what do their victims get? 037.054 “He said: ‘Would you like to look down?’ He looked down and saw him in the midst of the Fire, in the depths of Hell. He said: ‘You nearly caused me to perish! Had it not been for my Lord, I would have been among those brought there [the suicide bomber said to the innocent children he had blown to pieces]!’” Allah wanted the mass murderers to know: 037.059 “Except for your former death, you shall not be punished. This is the supreme triumph! For the likes of this let us strive. That is the better entertainment.”
    Hell’s torments sound a lot like what might have occurred around a desert campfire. 037.063 “For We have truly made it as a trial to torment the disbelievers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Zaqqum is a horrible thorn tree that grows in Hell. The shoots of its fruit-stalks are like the heads of devils. Truly they [non-Muslims] will eat it and fill their bellies with it. On top of that they will be given a mixture made of boiling water to drink especially prepared. Then they shall be returned to the Blazing Fire,” Allah, Islam’s terrorist ilah proclaimed.
    We have finally arrived at the passage the Hadith was trying to illuminate. We wanted to find out why Abraham said he was sick and why he was playing with idols. 037.083 “Surely among those who followed His Way (Islam) was Abraham. He came to his Lord with a sound heart. He said to his father and to his folk, ‘What is that which you worship? Is it a falsehood—alihah (gods) besides Allah that you desire?’” The Qur’an didn’t define what his “Way” was. Islam is supposed to be the religion of Abraham yet the Qur’an never explains what that might be.
    037.087 “‘Then what is your idea about the Lord of men and jinn?’ Abraham cast a glance at the Stars. And he said, ‘I am indeed sick!’” Abe’s question about the Lord of the worlds followed by the capitalization of “Stars” is a problem. In the Qur’an, capitalization is a tribute to deity. Second, why did Abraham need to lie to accomplish his god’s agenda? One of my translations actually alters the text by adding a parenthetical to obfuscate this problem: “Surely I am sick (of your worshipping these).” Another says “sick (with plague).” Even Muhammad calls Abe a liar. Tabari II:63 “The Messenger said: ‘Abraham told three lies in his life. Two of them were about Allah—his saying “I feel sick” and his saying “The chief idol is the one who did it.”’”
    037.090 “They turned their backs and went away. He turned to their gods secretly and said, ‘Will you not eat?’ ‘What is the matter with you that you don’t speak?’” Deprived of place, time, and circumstance, this doesn’t make sense. Where was he? Why did he go to these gods? What are their names? And since Allah never spoke or ate, the revisionist Abe is being hypocritical. The following Hadith, stolen from the Talmud, scrambles to make sense of this: Tabari II:55 “The people prepared food and placed it before the gods, saying, ‘When we come back the gods will have blessed our food and we will eat.’ When Abraham saw them with the food, he said, ‘Will you not eat? And when they did not answer, he said, ‘What ails you that you don’t speak?’ Then he attacked them. He took a piece of iron and cut off each idol’s extremities. Then when only the largest idol was left, he tied the axe to its hand. When the people came to get their food and saw their gods in this state, they said, ‘An evildoer has done this to our gods.’”
    That was from Muhammad’s Sunnah by way of the Jewish Talmud. This is from Allah’s Qur’an: 037.093 “He turned upon them secretly, attacking, striking (them) with the right hand. Then came (people) with hurried steps, and faced (him). He said: ‘What! do you worship what you hew out? But Allah has created you and your handwork!’”
    Let’s turn to the salient portion of the 21st surah, named “The Prophets,” to make certain we are looking at Islam’s poison pill from all possible sides. 021.051 “We bestowed on Abraham correctness of conduct, and well were We acquainted with him. Behold, he said to his father and his folk, ‘What are these images, to which you are devoted?’ They said, ‘We found our fathers worshipping them.’ He said, ‘Indeed you have been in manifest error—you and your fathers.’ They said, ‘Have you brought us the truth, or are you some jester?’” This Qur’anic indulgence also emerges out of the blue without reference to the audience, place, time, or religion. Devoid of this context the passage is senseless today. Yet in Mecca, the meaning would have been crystal clear. Muhammad was being recast as Abraham.
    021.056 “He said, ‘Nay, your Lord is the Lord of the heavens and earth, He created them and I am a witness to this. I have a plot for your idols and will do something against them after you go away and turn your backs.’ So he broke them to pieces, (all) but the biggest of them, that they might turn to it.” A second translation says: “Then he reduced them to fragments, all save the chief of them, that haply they might have recourse to it.”
    This is one of the most incriminating verses in the Qur’an. Muhammad did this very thing. The prophet took the largest of the pagan idols of the Ka’aba—Allah—and promoted it to the exclusion of the others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust). He broke the smaller rock gods and elevated the Black Stone so that his people “might turn to it.” It was as if the early Greeks had broken the statues of Athena, Poseidon, and Hermes so that they could worship the one true god Zeus. How was the biggest idol any more “god” than the other imposters?
    While I’ll continue to convey Islam’s version of dishonest Abe to illustrate how Muhammad crafted his religious scam, I would be remiss if I didn’t credit the prophet with his first miracle. He just pounded a nail into his own coffin.
    The Qur’anic story continues with these uninspired words: 021.059 “They said, ‘Who has done this to our alihah (gods)?’ ‘He is a mischief-monger.’ ‘We heard a youth talk of them called Abraham.’ ‘Then bring him before us that he may testify.’ They said, ‘Are you the one who did this?’ He said: ‘No, it was done by the biggest idol! Ask the other idols if they can speak!’…They were utterly shamed and confounded. ‘You know they do not speak.’ He said: ‘What! Do you then serve besides Allah what brings no profit, nor can harm you? ‘Fie [?] upon you, and upon the things that you worship besides Allah! Have you no sense?’ They said, ‘Burn him and protect our gods.’” Since Allah never spoke, why didn’t that shame Muhammad? And why would the supposed patriarch of monotheistic Islam tell his people that a pagan god smashed lesser idols? Would that not make the idol real? Moreover, the Muhammadized Abraham called a “god” false because it “cannot harm you.” The implication is that Allah is real because he’s fixated on sadistic torments. That’s not good.
    Now that we have an argument raging, it’s time to reshape Abraham of Ur into the image of Muhammad of Mecca. For this we will bounce between the 37th and 21st surahs. 037.097 “They said, ‘Build him a furnace, and fling him into the blazing red-hot fire!’ They then sought a plot against him, but We made them the ones most humiliated! And he said: ‘Surely I fly to my lord; He will guide me.’” When the townsfolk of Mecca developed their plot and tried to burn Muhammad’s britches, he flew off to Allah in his dreams. He jumped on al-Buraq, an imaginary winged steed, half ass and half donkey (like its rider), and cruised to heaven by way of Jerusalem. Although he humiliated himself with his tale of derring-do, Muhammad also claimed that it was really the Meccans who were dashed.
   021.069 “We said, ‘O Fire, be cool and safety for Abraham!’ Then they sought a stratagem against him and wished to set a snare, but We made them the ones that lost most!” I know Allah loves plots, but this is ridiculous. Why would the townsfolk design a plot to snare him after they were burning him? 021.071 “But We delivered him and Lot to the land [of Israel] which We have blessed for men and jinn.” This must be a joke. Allah has blessed Israel? Was that the blessing of the PLO or Islamic Jihad?
    As the Islamic Abraham flees the fire, we are confronted with an odd transition and unbelievable dialog. 037.100 “‘Lord, grant me a righteous (son)!’ So We gave him the good news of a boy ready to suffer and forbear. Then, when (the son) reached (the age of) (serious) work with him, he said: ‘Son! I see in a vision that I offer you in sacrifice: Now what is your view!’ (The son) said: ‘O my father! Do as you are commanded: you will find me, if Allah so wills, one practicing Patience and Constancy!’” Even with nine words artificially inserted into the text by the translators for clarification, this verse is bizarre. It is as if Muhammad overheard a half dozen Bible stories and tried to tie them all together in one paragraph. Over the course of five sentences he takes us from a gang of nameless people building a furnace to terrorize Abe to having him terrorize his son. And there is a significant detail missing—the son’s name isn’t stated because Muhammad can’t decide which son should be sacrificed or even where or when the event occurred.
    037.103 “When they had surrendered (to Allah), and he had flung him on his face, We called out, ‘Abraham! You have fulfilled the vision! Lo! that was a clear test. And We ransomed him with a momentous sacrifice, with a tremendous victim!’” Allah, the counterfeit god, continues to falsify history. 037.110 “Thus do We reward the doers of good. For he was one of Our believing slaves. And We gave him the good news of the birth of Isaac, a prophet among the good ones. We blessed him and Isaac: but of their progeny are (some) that do right, and (some) that obviously do wrong.” As a reward for Abraham’s faithfulness, Allah predicts the birth of the son he almost sacrificed. Brilliant.
    Somewhere, sometime, someone may have done a worse job plagiarizing, but it’s hard to imagine. The omissions, the lack of place, time, and purpose degrade one of the Bible’s great events. Muhammad, I mean Allah, was trying to rip off, I mean utilize, the story of Abraham and Isaac. The original provides such a refreshing change from this drivel it’s worth a quick review.
    First, Yahweh sets the scene and unfolds the story chronologically. Genesis chronicles the life of Abraham, the places he lived, the people he encountered, as well as the birth of his two sons, Isaac and Ishmael. Yahweh had told Abraham to send Ishmael out of the Promised Land, and the boy fell out of Abraham’s life and Yahweh’s plans, fading into Biblical oblivion. As we approach the 22nd chapter, God tells us that Abraham was living in Beersheba. He had just returned from visiting the Philistines in Gaza. Within that context, he speaks to him about Isaac, the patriarch’s miracle child from his wife Sarah, the beneficiary of the covenant.
    “Now it came about after these things, that Yahweh tested Abraham and called to him, ‘Abraham.’ ‘Here I am.’ Yahweh said, ‘Take your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah and offer him there as a sacrifice on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.’” The Temple in Jerusalem was built on Mount Moriah by Solomon to commemorate Abraham’s faith. Yahshua would be sacrificed there to save mankind. To this day, it remains the most coveted place on earth. And it’s a three-day walk, forty miles north by northwest, from Beersheba.
    The details of the sacrifice were extraordinarily important to Yahweh. This drama had to be played out exactly as it would happen to Yahshua. The timing was important, too. The call came 2,000 years after the fall of Adam and two thousand years before the Messiah endured the same fate. Remember, Yahweh gave us a pattern—six eras of creation followed by an era of rest. It has been nearly 2,000 years since Christ’s sacrifice and the Bible tells us that 1,000 years of peace will follow his return.
    “So Abraham rose early in the morning and saddled his donkey and took two of his young men with him along with Isaac. He split wood for the sacrifice and went to the place Yahweh had told him to go. On the third day Abraham raised his eyes and saw it from a distance. Abraham said to his young men, ‘Stay here with the donkey. The lad and I will go yonder. We will worship and return to you.’ Abraham took the wood for the offering and laid it on his son. He took the fire and the knife. (Fire is a metaphor for judgment and the knife is the implement of atonement.) Walking together, Isaac said, ‘My father.’ He answered, ‘Here I am, my son.’ ‘I see the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for the offering?’ ‘Yahweh will provide for himself the lamb for the offering.’” (Notice that Abraham actually answers in God’s name—I Am, or Yahweh—every time he is called.)
    “When they came to the place of which Yahweh had told him; Abraham arranged the altar, bound his son Isaac, and laid him on the wood. Abraham stretched out his hand and took the knife to sacrifice his son. But Yahweh called to him from heaven, and said, ‘Abraham!’ ‘Here I am.’ ‘Do not stretch out your hand against the boy and do nothing to him for I know that you love Me, since you have not withheld your son, your only son from Me.’
    “Then Abraham raised his eyes and looked and saw a ram caught in the thicket by his horns; he took the ram and offered him in place of his son. ‘Because you have done this thing, and have not withheld your son, I will greatly bless you and I will multiply your descendants as the stars of the heavens…and through your descendents all the nations of the earth shall be blessed.’ So Abraham returned to his men, and they arose and went together to Beersheba where Abraham lived.”
    Real scripture sets human events in context so that we can learn something. Yahweh not only explained the nature of his relationship with man but also explained what was to come, so when it happened, we might recognize the significance.

My response:

You mentioned several points:

1-  Abraham was not a Muslim, and his GOD was not Allah Almighty.   Muhammad needed to desperately prove that Abraham was a Muslim to strengthen his position and lies.

2-  Muhammad discriminated between races, considered Arabs as the "beautiful" race, and condoned slavery and promoted it to generate money off of it.

3-  Mistakes in historical accounts regarding Abraham.

4-  Nonsense about astronomy such as a star lighting above Abraham that its light covered the sun's.

5-  Allah Almighty making the fire being "cool" on Abraham is utter nonsense and illogical.

6-  Some of the Noble Quran's accounts on Abraham and others don't exist in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Here is my response to your points:

Before I respond, let me first make it clear to the reader:  As I explained in my previous rebuttal, it is important for the reader to first know that the narrations above from Al-Tabari came from a book that contains historical accounts that were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death.   Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all!  It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument.  If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic.  Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.

In fact, the Al-Tabari volume is not very authentic and very doubtful when compared to the Hadiths' volumes and collections.  But even the Hadiths contain much corruptions in them, because they were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's death.   The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled.  Bukhari is not an Arabic name!  Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:

"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story.  It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......."  (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)  

For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".

Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable?  Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no.  I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected.  But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia.  Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them.  In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:

"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...."  Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others!  In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group.  And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!

Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic.  Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death.  Their narrations were orally transmitted by others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).   Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers ( Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:

From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:

Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:

In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum.  It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words!  The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word.  In Arabic, a word is not original.  There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention.  This can change the entire meaning of the whole word  and sentence.

That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.

Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.

For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful.  I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies.  But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous!  Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration.  I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.

That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the Truth and reject the others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).

Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all written during the Prophet's time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).  Some or even many of them were probably written down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly all written during the Prophet's time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). 

I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....

Example about my own name to simplify things:

Take "Osama" for example.  First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent.  The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama".  Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato".  The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.

When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising.  Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual.  I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.

THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".

To the reader, please visit:  What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?

Having said all of that, here is my response to the above points:

1-   "Muslim" is an Arabic word that is derived from the root word "Salam", which means peace.  Muslim simply means one who submitted himself in peace and embraced the belief in the Absolute One and Living GOD Almighty, and associated no partners (god, humans or idols) with Him.  Allah Almighty Said:

"Say: He is God, the One and Only; God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.  (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

"Then Praise be to Allah, Lord of the heavens and Lord of the earth- Lord and Cherisher of all the worlds!  To Him be Glory throughout the heavens and the earth: and He is Exalted in Power, Full of Wisdom!.  (The Noble Quran, 45:36-37)" 

"Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!   Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"

"And behold! I inspired the Disciples to have faith in Me [Allah] and Mine Messenger [Jesus]; they said, ''We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to Allah as Muslims.'  (The Noble Quran, 5:111)"

"God forgiveth not that partners should be set up with Him; but He forgiveth anything else, to whom He pleaseth; to set up partners with God is to devise a sin Most heinous indeed. (The Noble Quran, 4:48)"

"Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend.  (The Noble Quran, 4:125)"

Abraham, peace be upon him, was not the only "Muslim" before Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  Islam started from Adam, peace be upon him, and continued all the way until Prophet Muhammad.  All of the Prophets without any exceptions believed in the Absolute One and True Living GOD Almighty and Worshiped only Him.  Abraham was a true Muslim and the father of Judaism, Christianity and Islam.

Prophet Muhammad was not desperate to prove anything about Abraham.   Islam is True by itself.  It is very simple by nature and is the natural human religion by birth; meaning humans from their very early days naturally believe in the One GOD Almighty.  Abraham was a Muslim because he submitted "his whole self to God" Almighty and did Righteousness.

2-  As to Prophet Muhammad being a racist and an enslaver, these are all lies against the Prophet.   The book of Al-Tabari was written literally 100s of years after the natural death of our beloved Prophet.  Many had injected lies and corruptions and fabricated stories to poison Islam.  The Hadiths are corrupt and filled with man's alterations and lies.  They can't all be trusted, especially the ones that clearly CONTRADICT THE NOBLE QURAN!  Racism is not part of the Noble Quran.  Allah Almighty Said:

"O mankind! [this includes all races and all nations] We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other.  Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you.  And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted.  (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"

This Noble Verse clearly refutes the bogus narration that exists in the Al-Tabari about our Prophet saying that the Arabs are the "best" race. 

Now as to slavery and enslaving people, again, this is another lie!  IT IS THE BIBLE that promotes slavery and enslaving of people!  I have written a detailed section with tons of quotes from both the Noble Quran and the bible to back up this claim:

From www.answering-christianity.com/human.htm:

"O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other.  Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of Allah is the most righteous of you.  And Allah has full knowledge and is well-acquainted.  (The Noble Quran, 49:13)"

Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari:  "The Prophet said, "Give food to the hungry, pay a visit to the sick and release (set free) the one in captivity (by paying his ransom)."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Food, Meals, Volume 7, Book 65, Number 286)"

Human equality in Islam V.S. Christianity:

See how Islam came to liberate slaves and end the Judeo-Christian and Pagan slavery, and how the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments promotes slavery.

In Islam:

Are Muslims the "Chosen People" of GOD?  If not, then who are?  No race, color or gender is better than the other.

The liberation of slaves in Islam.   The ending of the Judeo-Christian and pagan slavery.

Why did slavery exist during Islam? And how did Islam deal with it?

"Your Slaves are your brothers" in Islam

The Prophet divided the food between the slaves and the free.

Treatment of Slaves in Islam.  If you beat your slave, then you will go to hell.

Can a slave request his freedom from his Muslim Master and be granted his freedom in Islam?  Yes.  The Muslim Master must pay him/her money too to get a nice jump start in life too according to the Noble Quran.

YES, freedom of Religion is allowed in Islam!  Islam totally disagree with Afghanistan's Taliban or any Muslim State that execute any Muslim for deserting Islam!  Islam also totally disagrees with killing any non-Muslim Missionaries trying to spread their religion in Muslim States.  See the proof for yourself from the Noble Quran. 

Islam prohibits terrorism.

The woman can not be forced into marriage in Islam.

Why did Allah Almighty make lawful for Muslim men to have sexual intercourse with the married women whom are captives of war?

Is there equality between men and women in Islam?

What does Allah Almighty say about Justice for all in an Islamic State?

Does Islam really allow the killing of innocent unbelievers?

Women have the right and are commanded by Allah Almighty to seek education in Islam.

Prophet Muhammad taking revenges for himself and committing murders is a lie!  Does Islam really encourage Muslims to take revenge?  Absolutely Not!

Forgiveness and revenge in Islam.  There is a difference between being a peaceful person, and a coward hypocrite in Islam.

Why did Muhammad take up arms and Christ didn't?  Why did Islam spread by the sword if it were indeed a Religion of Truth, and Christianity didn't?  See my response to this misunderstanding.  Did you know that even Jesus killed his enemies in the Bible?

Is Ethnic cleansing allowed in Islam?

Human equality in Christianity?

Introduction: When it comes to human affairs and relations, slavery is one of the back bones of the spine of Christianity and its principles:  "All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered.  (From the NIV Bible, 1 Timothy 6:1)"

"Let all who are under the yoke of slavery regard their masters as worthy of all honor, so that the name of God and the teaching may not be defamed.  (From the RSV Bible, 1 Timothy 6:1)"

In either translation, we clearly see that the Bible is not a book for freeing slaves.   Slavery was practiced very badly during the times of Judaism and Christianity, and was fought against and ended during the times of Islam.  It is part of the Bible's "teaching" to practice and promote slavery!  And fighting it would "slander" or "defame" the teachings of the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

My Challenge:  I invite any Jew or Christian to bring me one Bible verse that orders its followers to free slaves!

Slavery and racism in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  (Some of my rebuttals are included).

Instant death to those who desert Christianity in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

The sinless and perfect men in the Bible who are above all.

Being passive in the Bible- The New Testament according to (Romans 13:1-5) orders us to follow the laws of dictators and murderers and not the laws of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Being Coward, Passive and Pathetic in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Bad things said about Jesus peace be upon him in the New Testament.

The Bible literally allows for the strong to eat the weak.  See how injustice is done in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  When the influential individual sleeps with his neighbor's wife, then no harm is done to them.  But when the the ordinary individual does it, then they get put to death according to the Bible's teachings and commands.

Can a slave request his freedom from his Jewish or Christian Master and be granted his freedom in the Bible?  No.  Slaves are to be inherited forever in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Why did Muhammad take up arms and Christ didn't?  Why did Islam spread by the sword if it were indeed a Religion of Truth, and Christianity didn't?  See my response to this misunderstanding.  Did you know that even Jesus killed his enemies in the Bible?

3-  In regards to the mistakes in the historical accounts regarding Abraham, there are two main points that need to be mentioned:

(a)  The book of Al-Tabari is a history book filled with narrations from all kinds of different sources.  Much of it was most probably copied straight from the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).   It is as I explained and proved above a DOUBTFUL AND UNRELIABLE BOOK!   This is not my opinion.  This is a fact.

(b)  The Bible itself contains OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in its historical accounts and authenticity as well.  Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bibles:

It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.

Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

After that, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.

4-   In regards to the nonsense about astronomy such as a star lighting above Abraham that its light covered the sun's, again, the book of Al-Tabari is doubtful and unreliable.   We can't tell for sure if Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did indeed say these words, especially when they contradict the Noble Quran:

"It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light (of beauty), and measured out stages for her; that ye might know the number of years and the count (of time). Nowise did God create this but in truth and righteousness. (Thus) doth He explain His Signs in detail, for those who understand.  (The Noble Quran, 10:5)"

Allah Almighty never talked about stars shinning more than the sun upon earth in the Noble Quran.

I'd like Craig Winn to answer the following wrong statements about astronomy in his Bibles:

Contradictions with Science:

Earth is flat, has edges, standing on pillars and never moves:

"He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved.   (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)"

"The LORD reigns, he is robed in majesty; the LORD is robed in majesty and is armed with strength.  The world [The deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established; it cannot be moved.   (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 93:1)"

"Say among the nations, "The LORD reigns."   The world [Again, the deceiving translators should've said "earth", not "world"] is firmly established, it cannot be moved; he will judge the peoples with equity.  (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 96:10)"

"The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.  (From the NIV Bible, Ecclesiastes 1:5)"

"He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)"

"Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)"

"that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?  (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)"

"He unleashes his lightning beneath the whole heaven and sends it to the ends of the earth.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 37:3)"

"for he views the ends of the earth and sees everything under the heavens.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 28:24)"

"Their measure is longer than the earth and wider than the sea.  (From the NIV Bible, Job 11:9)"

How do you respond to this?

To the reader, please visit:  Contradictions and proofs of Historical Corruptions in the Bible.

5-  As to Allah Almighty making the fire being "cool" on Abraham, this is true and is confirmed in the Noble Quran:

"We said, "O Fire! be thou cool, and (a means of) safety for Abraham!"  (The Noble Quran, 21:69)"

It doesn't matter if the Noble Quran's account does not exist in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  The Bible as I proved in responses #3 & #4 does contain contradictions and errors in its historical accounts, as well as, wrong scientific statements.

Also, Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him did not copy anything from the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  It is true that Allah Almighty talked about some stories regarding the People of Israel and some events that happened in the past which exist in the Bible, but Allah Almighty's account in the Noble Quran came to correct the errors, contradictions and corruptions in the Bible and to demonstrate that the Bible is corrupt.

Also, just because the Bible contains history in it and was written by many authors, it doesn't make it an entirely Divine and Perfect Holy Book.  Like I proved above, there exists OVERWHELMING contradictions and errors in historical accounts and claims in the Bible, as well as the validity and authenticity of the books and gospels that make up the Bible of today, because they were written by MYSTERIOUS people; people who are not known to us today, and who were not even Prophets and Messengers from GOD Almighty!

Please visit: Just who were the original authors of the Bible? to the quotes from the Bible's theologians and historians admitting to this problem.

6-  As to some of the Noble Quran's accounts on Abraham and others don't exist in the Bible, I have answered this thoroughly in response #5.

He wrote:

    Returning to the Sira, Ishaq replays Muhammad’s fantasy in front of Nimrod rather than in the great hall of idols. After daring the gods to talk, Abraham is questioned by a king who died 700 years earlier. Tabari II:57 “‘Have you seen this Allah whom you worship and whose worship you call others? Who is he?’ Abraham replied, ‘My Lord, Who gives life and causes death.’ [The question was too tough so he did the old political side step.] Nimrod said, ‘I give life and cause death.’” They chatted about this for a while and then Abraham said, “‘Allah causes the sun to rise in the East, so can you make it rise in the West?’ [Good thing he didn’t mention the chariot thing, the angelic handholds, or the garment of luminosity.] Knowing that it was as Abraham said, Nimrod was ashamed. He gave no answer; he knew that he was not able to do that. Allah said, ‘Thus was the unbeliever abashed’—that is to say, the proof was against him.’” Now that Muslims know that the sun does not follow Allah’s commands, shouldn’t they be ashamed? Isn’t the proof clearly against them?
    Tabari II:58 “They pushed Abraham into the furnace. Then the heavens and earth and all creatures therein except humans and jinn shouted to Allah, ‘Our Lord! Abraham, the only one on your earth who worships you, is being burned in fire for your sake. Permit us to help him.’” Everybody talks to Allah except humans and demons. Who might they be? “Allah answered, ‘I am his friend. I will protect him. O fire! Be coolness and peace for Abraham.’” So following this fireside chat, we read: “Imprison him in a building and cast him into Hell. … Abraham raised his head [and contradicted most all of what we have read thus far], ‘You are alone in heaven and I am alone on earth.’…Had Allah not followed the command for coolness with peace, Abraham would have frozen to death.”
    Tabari II:62 “Abraham and Lot set out for Syria. On the way Abraham met Sarah, who was the daughter of the king of Harran.” Actually, Abram left Ur for Haran traveling along the banks of the Euphrates River. He was accompanied by his father, Terah, his wife and half sister, Sarai, and his nephew, Lot. “She had criticized her people about their religion, so he married her, since he would be able to have a believing wife without having to convert her.” This verse implies one becomes a Muslim by criticizing a religion. “Then Abraham went forth, a fugitive for the sake of his Lord…to practice his religion and worship safely.” Why would Abe fear for his safety after being saved from the fire? And why, if he was God’s messenger, did he leave town? Shouldn’t he have stayed and tried to save the Babylonians?
    No. Recasting Abraham was more important. Muhammad fled Mecca as a fugitive. He ran to Yathrib, today’s Medina because some pagans promised to protect him. The revisionist Abraham makes the cowardly Muhammad appear more godly. “He settled in Harran. Then he left as a fugitive and traveled to Egypt which was under the rule of one of the earliest Pharaohs.” Well, not exactly. The first Egyptian ruler was probably the Scorpion King. He ruled more than five hundred years before Abraham’s arrival.
    “Sarah was one of the best humans ever. She would not disobey Abraham in any way.” That was Muhammad’s idea of a perfect woman. From Bukhari’s Book of Belief: Bukhari:V1B22N28 “The Prophet said: ‘I was shown the Hell Fire and the majority of its dwellers were women who are disbelievers or ungrateful.’ When asked what they were ungrateful for, the Prophet answered, ‘All the favors done for them by their husbands.’”
    Next we find that Muhammad “Islamicized” Abram’s encounter with Pharaoh. The only germane insight into this affair is Pharaoh’s gift of Hagar, a “Coptic” slave-girl. Flunking history, the Allah/Muhammad duo didn’t know that the Coptics were centuries away from arriving on the international scene. Leaving Pharaoh, Abraham tells Sarah, “You are my sister in Allah, for in all this land there are no Muslims except ourselves.” So what happened to all those scrolls and to the nations who were worshiping around Allah’s House?
    Some of what follows includes: “Hagar was of good appearance and Sarah gave her to Abraham, saying, ‘Take her. You may take pleasure in Hagar, for I have permitted it.’” “The Messenger said, ‘When you conquer Egypt treat its people well. They’re kin and deserve protection.’” “Abraham left Egypt for Syria, for he was afraid of the Egyptian king and anxious about his evil ways. He settled in Beersheba in the land of Palestine, which is the desert of Syria.” While most of this comes out of the Bible, it is flavored with the standard Muslim embellishments. One such addition is revealing. There was no Palestine during Abraham’s life. The word was first composed by the Romans 2,100 years after Abraham died. The patriarch actually returned to Canaan, named after his great, great uncle. (Folks with King James Bibles may think Isaiah invented the name, but it’s an errant translation. Isaiah 14:29 uses “pelesheth,” which means: “rolling in dust.”
    Tabari II:66 “Abraham dug a well in Beersheba and said, ‘Drink from it and do not let a menstruating woman dip water from it.’” Muhammad, a sexual libertine if there ever was one, hated menstruation with a passion. As you know, he said that the reason Allah’s Stone turned from white to black was “it was fingered by menstruating women.” And as sick as that sounds, this next Hadith is used by Muslims to justify brutalizing their daughters. Tabari II:72 “Sarah swore to cut something off of Hagar. ‘I shall cut off her nose, I shall cut off her ear—but no, that would deform her. I will circumcise her instead.’ So she did that, and Hagar took a piece of cloth to wipe the blood away. For that reason women have been circumcised and have taken pieces of cloth down to today.”
   “A menstruating woman came and dipped water from the well. Whereupon the water dried up.” While I do not know the connection, the next paragraph begins: “When Allah wished to destroy Lot’s people, he sent his messengers to Abraham, commanding him to leave their community. [Weren’t we just told that the only two Muslims were Abe and Sarah? And Abraham was in Beersheba, not Sodom, so why ask him to leave?] They had done vile deeds which no one in the two worlds had done before, disbelieving their prophets and rejecting the good counsel which Lot brought them from their Lord. The messengers were ordered to visit Abraham and give him and Sarah tidings of the coming of Isaac and also of Jacob who was to come after him.” For Islam to have any hope of being credible, the good news had to be of Ishmael not Isaac. Jacob wasn’t Sarah’s kid, and neither Jacob nor Isaac are of any value to Islam.
    At this point, the Muslim mathematicians jumped into the fray: Tabari II:68 “Abraham was sixteen when he was thrown into the fire, and Isaac was seven when he was sacrificed, while Sarah was ninety when she bore him. The place of his sacrifice was about two miles from Bayt Iliya [?]. When Sarah learned what Allah wanted with Isaac, she fell ill for two days and died on the third. Sarah was 127 when she died.” Muslim math is as confused as Muslim science: 127-90=7. So much for Arabic numerals.
    Now we get to the important part. Tabari II:69 “After Ishmael and Isaac were born, Allah commanded Abraham to build a House for Him in which He would be worshipped and His name mentioned.” This must be the House that Allah didn’t build in heaven, that Adam didn’t build, that Seth didn’t build, that Noah didn’t circumnavigate after Allah didn’t raise it above the flood.
   “Abraham did not know exactly where he was expected to build it, since Allah had not made this clear [nor anything else], and he felt uneasy in the matter. Some scholars say that Allah sent the Sakinah to him [a rip-off of the Hebrew Shekhinah—the presence of Yahweh] to show him where to build the House. The Sakinah went with Abraham, who was also accompanied by his wife Hagar [Hagar was never Abraham’s wife and Muslims know it.] and his son Ishmael, who was a small boy.”
    The Tradition continues: “A man came to Ali bin Talib [Muhammad’s adopted son, his son-in-law, future Caliph, and said, ‘Will you tell me about the House?’ He replied, ‘It was the first built with the blessing of the standing-place of Abraham, and whoever enters it will be safe. If you wish, I will tell you how it was built. Allah said to Abraham, “Build Me a House on earth!” Abraham felt uneasy, so He sent the Sakinah. The Sakinah is a gale-force wind with two heads, and one head followed the other until they reached Mecca and coiled up at the site of the House, the way a snake coils.’”
    There are some who suggest that Allah is Satan, the snake who tempted Adam. Using this metaphor to describe Allah’s presence supports that theory. But whether or not that is true, this passage is troubling. Mecca is nearly a thousand miles from Beersheba. These places are separated by rugged mountains and virtually impassible desert. There is no plausible way a hundred-year-old man, a slave girl, and a small child could have endured such a journey. And this may be why neither Muhammad nor Allah ever bothered to tell us how they accomplished the improbable voyage.
    Tabari II:70 “Abraham was commanded to build where the Sakinah had rested. When he had finished it except for one stone, [guess which one] the boy went away to build something else. But Abraham said, ‘No, I still need one more stone, as I still order you.’ So the boy went looking, and when he found one he brought it to Abraham. But Abraham had already set the Black Stone in place. He said, ‘Father, who brought you this Stone?’ Abraham answered, ‘It was Gabriel who brought it to me from heaven.’ Then the two of them finished it.” And I could have sworn that Muhammad told us that the stone was brought to earth by Adam. (Tabari I:298) Was he lying then, or now?
    Version two follows. It is also from Ali: “When he built it he went forth and left Hagar and Ishmael behind. Ishmael became very thirsty. Hagar climbed Safa to look for water but saw nothing. Then she went to Marwah, but the same thing happened. Then she returned to Safa and looked around, but could not find Ishmael. After looking seven times without success she said, ‘Ishmael, you have died where I cannot see you.’” You may be wondering why she would look for water now and yet not have bothered during the three-month desert crossing. You may be wondering why she would look on the top of barren mountains rather than in a valley oasis. You may be wondering why she repeated the process seven times, endangering the life of her child. The answer is Islam. Muhammad needed to make the hajj rites religious. Even today Muslims are required to run between these mountains seven times. This explains why they do it.
    However, there were problems. Abraham was supposed to be the father of Islam. In this Hadith, he didn’t perform any of the rites. He merely re-re-re-rebuilt the House and bailed. And the one who performed the Islamic ritual, Hagar, left Islam’s most important child alone in the desert (as did Muhammad’s mother, not so coincidentally).
    The sacred Meccan well of Zamzam needed Biblical credibility too, so... “The boy scraped the ground with his finger and the spring of Zamzam welled up. Hagar began to dam up the water, but Gabriel said, ‘Leave it.’”
    In the versions that follow, we’re told, “Abraham and Ishmael set out for Mecca. They took pickaxes without knowing where the house was. So Allah sent a wind, which had two wings and a head of a snake. It swept the area around the Ka’aba clear for them to build the foundations of the original House.” Not on the foundations, nor to see the foundations, but to build the foundations of the original House. “This was when Allah said, ‘When We prepared for Abraham the place of the House.’” [Qur’an 22:26]
    Since three contradictory versions were not enough: Tabari II:71 “Allah commanded Abraham to build the House and to call on humanity to perform the pilgrimage. He left Syria with his son Ishmael and his mother Hagar. Allah sent the Sakinah which had the power of speech. Abraham followed it to Mecca. When it came to the place of the House, it spun round and round and said to Abraham, ‘Build on me! Build on me!’ [Allah’s House was built upon a snake.] Abraham laid the foundations and raised the House, working with Ishmael until they came to the cornerstone. Abraham said, ‘O my little son, find me a stone which I can put here as a sign to the people.’ He brought him a stone, but Abraham did not like it. When Ishmael came back the cornerstone had already been brought and put in place.” After failing math, science, and history, Islam is failing architecture. The cornerstone is the first rock laid, not the last. And cornerstones are big and rectangular. The Allah Stone is small and oval. But again, it wasn’t by accident. The Bible refers prophetically to Christ as “the cornerstone” and you-know-who was desperate to be just like him.
    How was Abraham supposed to call humanity to this place? The valley was uninhabited. It was in the middle of a foreboding desert. The first settlement wouldn’t be established for 2,500 years. Furthermore, the Islamic Abraham was piling un-hewn, un-mortared rocks in a desert ravine. The first heavy rain would have done it in.
    Perhaps the fifth version of Abraham in Mecca will be more rational. After circumcising Hagar, rather than cutting off her nose: Tabari II:72 “Sarah said, ‘She will not live in the same town with me.’ So Allah told Abraham to go to Mecca, where there was no House at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). He took Hagar and her son and put them there.… Allah pointed out to Abraham the place to build the House [which would make Allah the snake]. …. When they reached Mecca, there was nothing there but acacia trees.” If that is true, Muhammad’s earlier accounts must have been false. “The House at the time was but a hill of red clay…. When he was done, Abraham headed back to Syria…. Gabriel dug out Zamzam with his heel for Ishmael.” All I can assume is that neither Muhammad nor Allah had a clue as to how the rock-pile got there. These wildly divergent explanations are preceded and followed by dozens more. It is as if Muslims think truth can be found in a pile of lies, if only the pile is big enough.
    The Traditions move on to recount a variety of patriarchal Meccan visits. Never mind that Mecca didn’t exist. Muhammad wants us to believe in fairytales, in talking stones and trees: Tabari II:78 “And everything that heard him—stones, trees, hills, and dust said, ‘Here I am, Allah, here I am.’”
    Continuing to give meaningless ritual religious meaning: Tabari II:81 “Abraham took Ishmael with him on the day of Tarwiyah [the 8th day of the hajj] and stayed at Mina with the Muslims who were there. He prayed with them the prayers of midday, afternoon, sunset and late evening. He spent the night and prayed the dawn prayer with them. In the morning he went out to Arafat, and he spoke to them there until sunset drew near.” This Hadith goes on to detail all of the remaining hajj rituals, all of which are still performed by Muslims as if they were acting out Abraham’s example. “He showed them the sacrifice-ground of Mina, then performed the sacrifice and shaved his head. From Mina he went into the crowd to show them how to perform the march around the Ka’aba. Then he took them back to Mina to show them how to throw the stones, until he had completed the pilgrimage and proclaimed it to mankind.”
    Because the previous account was unbelievable for a myriad of reasons, not the least of which was that there were no Muslims in Mecca, Muhammad felt compelled to give it an angelic twist. Tabari II:82 “The Prophet said, ‘Gabriel came to Abraham on the day of Tarwiyah and went with him to Mina, Arafat, back to Mina, threw stones, performed the sacrifice, shaved his head, and finally hurried to the House. Then Allah ordered Muhammad to ‘follow the religion of Abraham.’” [16:123] That must mean that the religion of Abraham, Islam, can be defined as running between two desolate mountains, tossing stones at stones, shaving one’s head, and walking around a rock pile. And so it would be. Even today, Islam is known for its rites and rituals rather than for its righteousness or reason.
    As we turn the page, we find ourselves embroiled in the mother of all disagreements. Even Muhammad and Allah are at odds: “The earliest sages of our Prophet’s nation disagree about which of Abraham’s two sons it was that he was commanded to sacrifice. Some say it was Isaac, while other say it was Ishmael.” Mind you, these are the very same people we are reliant upon for remembering the Qur’an and passing it along orally so that other sages could jot it down. This might well explain why it is so disjointed, contradictory, and I dare say silly, (not to mention perverted, demented, and disgusting).
    Tabari reports: “Both statements are supported by testimony related on the authority of the Prophet. Both statements are equally sound since they both came from the Prophet. Thus only the Qur’an [which also came from the Prophet] could serve as proof that the account naming Isaac was clearly the more truthful of the two.” But if that is the case, Islam falters, since it draws its legitimacy from Ishmael. Muhammad claims that he was “prophet quality” because he was a direct descendant of Ishmael.
    Tabari II:83 “‘We ransomed him with a tremendous victim,’ [Qur’an 37:107] refers to Isaac.” But how can that be? In verse 104 Allah says, “We called out, ‘Abraham, You have fulfilled your dream, thus do we reward the good. That was indeed a trying test. So…We gave him the good news of Isaac.” How can Abe have nearly sacrificed Isaac if the reward for fulfilling that trying test was Isaac?
    In version two: “‘Messenger, repeat the knowledge Allah has given you about the son of the two victims.’ The Messenger laughed and they said, ‘Who are the two victims?’ The Prophet said, ‘When Abd al-Muttalib was ordered to dig Zamzam [Not Ishmael or Gabriel?], he vowed that if Allah would make it easy for him, he would sacrifice one of his sons. The choice fell upon Abdallah, but his uncles prevented it, saying, ‘Ransom your son with one hundred camels.’ So he did that, and Ishmael was the other victim.’” The first boy spared, Abdallah, “Slave-to-Allah,” was Muhammad’s father. And as we shall soon see, he botched that story as badly as he did the other.
    Tabari II:84 “When Abraham was told to sacrifice Isaac, Satan said, ‘By Allah, if I cannot deceive the people with this, I shall never be able to do it.’” Satan not only swears by Allah, he says that the bogus connection between Abraham and Islam is his best way to fool mankind. And he was right!
    It’s also interesting that the deception would be over sacrifice. Judaism, Christianity, and all rational civilizations use sacrifice as the means to promote justice and maintain spiritual or societal order. Commit a crime and you will be required to sacrifice your money, your freedom, or your life. If crime is without cost, anarchy reigns. In Judaism, the sacrificial rite for the forgiveness of sin was rich in symbolism. It was based upon the “Mercy Seat” of the Arc of the Covenant. And it was connected prophetically to the blood of an unblemished lamb or dove. It’s all explained in the Torah. In Christianity, Christ became the perfect lamb and sacrificed himself on our behalf.
    But in Qur’anic Islam, there is no sacrifice. While the Sunnah perpetuates Qusayy’s senseless slaughter, it’s for appeasement, not atonement. There is no symbolism, no prophetic implication, and no moral reason, as forgiveness is capricious in Islam. And that is why totalitarian governments use draconian measures to maintain order. Muhammad was an amoral thief empowered by situational scriptures, so he failed to appreciate the necessity of sacrifice and he never understood the Biblical concept of sacrificial atonement. It’s why the “ransom of great sacrifice” mentioned in the Qur’an is left unexplained.
    Tabari II:87 “Caliph Umar said, ‘I asked a former Jew, who was considered to be a great Jewish scholar before he converted to Islam. He said, ‘Ishmael, by God, O Prince of Believers. The Jews know that, but they are envious of you Arabs because it was your father who was named in Allah’s command and to whom Allah ascribed such merit.’”
    Then why do you suppose the prophet said, “When Isaac grew up, Abraham had a dream in which he was told, ‘Fulfill your promise that if Allah grants you a son by Sarah you will sacrifice him. [In other words: “If you give me a son I’ll kill him for you.”] Then he drew the knife across Isaac’s throat, but the knife did not scratch him, for Allah had placed a sheet of copper on Isaac’s throat. When Abraham saw it he turned him over and tried to cut him on the nape of his neck.’ This confirms Allah’s Qur’an: ‘When he surrendered, he flung him down upon his face.’” [37:103]
    In the next Hadith it’s Ishmael: “When Abraham was alone with his son on the trail on Mt. Thabir [a mountain near Mecca], it is said he said to Ishmael, ‘O my son, I saw in a dream that I was to sacrifice you. What do you think?’ Ishmael told him, ‘O my father, Do as you were ordered…and sharpen your knife-blade so that it will finish me off quickly.” 

My response:

You mentioned 2 points:

1-  Errors in accounts about Abraham.

2-  The House of GOD Almighty that was built by Abraham.

Another Important Note:   The Hadiths' collections as a whole are exactly like the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  They're full of corruptions, contradictions and doubts.  The only way to know which are false and which are closest to the Truth is by comparing each narration (this goes for both the Bible and Hadiths) with the Noble Quran.  Those that agree with the Noble Quran are valid and those that disagree are invalid.  Again, please visit: What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?

From www.answering-christianity.com/building_of_kaaba.htm:

The detailed story of how the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ishmael peace be upon them:

The sections of this article are:

1-  The detailed story of how the Kaaba was built by Abraham and his son Ishmael, peace be upon them.
2-  Verses from the Noble Quran and the Bible that compliment the story.

Narrated Ibn Abbas:  "When the Prophet saw pictures in the Ka'ba, he did not enter it till he ordered them to be erased. When he saw the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael carrying the arrows of divination, he said, "May Allah curse them (i.e. the Quraish)! By Allah, neither Abraham nor Ishmael practiced divination by arrows."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophets, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 571)"

Narrated Ibn Abbas:  "The first lady to use a girdle was the mother of Ishmael. She used a girdle so that she might hide her tracks from Sarah. Abraham brought her and her son Ishmael while she was suckling him, to a place near the Ka'ba under a tree on the spot of Zam-zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Mecca, nor was there any water So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. Ishmael's mother followed him saying, "O Abraham! Where are you going, leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy, nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her Then she asked him, "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said, "Yes." She said, "Then He will not neglect us," and returned while Abraham proceeded onwards, and on reaching the Thaniya where they could not see him, he faced the Ka'ba, and raising both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayers:  

'O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Your Sacred House (Kaba at Mecca) in order, O our Lord, that they may offer prayer perfectly. So fill some hearts among men with love towards them, and (O Allah) provide them with fruits, so that they may give thanks.' (14.37) Ishmael's mother went on suckling Ishmael and drinking from the water (she had). 

When the water in the water-skin had all been used up, she became thirsty and her child also became thirsty. She started looking at him (i.e. Ishmael) tossing in agony; She left him, for she could not endure looking at him, and found that the mountain of Safa was the nearest mountain to her on that land. She stood on it and started looking at the valley keenly so that she might see somebody, but she could not see anybody. Then she descended from Safa and when she reached the valley, she tucked up her robe and ran in the valley like a person in distress and trouble, till she crossed the valley and reached the Marwa mountain where she stood and started looking, expecting to see somebody, but she could not see anybody. She repeated that (running between Safa and Marwa) seven times." 

The Prophet said, "This is the source of the tradition of the walking of people between them (i.e. Safa and Marwa). When she reached the Marwa (for the last time) she heard a voice and she asked herself to be quiet and listened attentively. She heard the voice again and said, 'O, (whoever you may be)! You have made me hear your voice; have you got something to help me?" And behold! She saw an angel at the place of Zam-zam, digging the earth with his heel (or his wing), till water flowed from that place. She started to make something like a basin around it, using her hand in this way, and started filling her water-skin with water with her hands, and the water was flowing out after she had scooped some of it." 

The Prophet added, "May Allah bestow Mercy on Ishmael's mother! Had she let the Zam-zam (flow without trying to control it) (or had she not scooped from that water) (to fill her water-skin), Zam-zam would have been a stream flowing on the surface of the earth." The Prophet further added, "Then she drank (water) and suckled her child. The angel said to her, 'Don't be afraid of being neglected, for this is the House of Allah which will be built by this boy and his father, and Allah never neglects His people.' The House (i.e. Kaba) at that time was on a high place resembling a hillock, and when torrents came, they flowed to its right and left. She lived in that way till some people from the tribe of Jurhum or a family from Jurhum passed by her and her child, as they (i.e. the Jurhum people) were coming through the way of Kada'. They landed in the lower part of Mecca where they saw a bird that had the habit of flying around water and not leaving it. They said, 'This bird must be flying around water, though we know that there is no water in this valley.' They sent one or two messengers who discovered the source of water, and returned to inform them of the water. So, they all came (towards the water)." The Prophet added, "Ishmael's mother was sitting near the water. They asked her, 'Do you allow us to stay with you?" She replied, 'Yes, but you will have no right to possess the water.' They agreed to that." The Prophet further said, "Ishmael's mother was pleased with the whole situation as she used to love to enjoy the company of the people. So, they settled there, and later on they sent for their families who came and settled with them so that some families became permanent residents there. The child (i.e. Ishmael) grew up and learnt Arabic from them and (his virtues) caused them to love and admire him as he grew up, and when he reached the age of puberty they made him marry a woman from amongst them. 

After Ishmael's mother had died, Abraham came after Ishmael's marriage in order to see his family that he had left before, but he did not find Ishmael there. When he asked Ishmael's wife about him, she replied, 'He has gone in search of our livelihood.' Then he asked her about their way of living and their condition, and she replied, 'We are living in misery; we are living in hardship and destitution,' complaining to him. He said, 'When your husband returns, convey my salutation to him and tell him to change the threshold of the gate (of his house).' When Ishmael came, he seemed to have felt something unusual, so he asked his wife, 'Has anyone visited you?' She replied, 'Yes, an old man of so-and-so description came and asked me about you and I informed him, and he asked about our state of living, and I told him that we were living in a hardship and poverty.' On that Ishmael said, 'Did he advise you anything?' She replied, 'Yes, he told me to convey his salutation to you and to tell you to change the threshold of your gate.' Ishmael said, 'It was my father, and he has ordered me to divorce you. Go back to your family.' So, Ishmael divorced her and married another woman from amongst them (i.e. Jurhum). 

Then Abraham stayed away from them for a period as long as Allah wished and called on them again but did not find Ishmael. So he came to Ishmael's wife and asked her about Ishmael. She said, 'He has gone in search of our livelihood.' Abraham asked her, 'How are you getting on?' asking her about their sustenance and living. She replied, 'We are prosperous and well-off (i.e. we have everything in abundance).' Then she thanked Allah' Abraham said, 'What kind of food do you eat?' She said. 'Meat.' He said, 'What do you drink?' She said, 'Water." He said, "O Allah! Bless their meat and water." The Prophet added, "At that time they did not have grain, and if they had grain, he would have also invoked Allah to bless it." The Prophet added, "If somebody has only these two things as his sustenance, his health and disposition will be badly affected, unless he lives in Mecca." The Prophet added," Then Abraham said Ishmael's wife, "When your husband comes, give my regards to him and tell him that he should keep firm the threshold of his gate.' When Ishmael came back, he asked his wife, 'Did anyone call on you?' She replied, 'Yes, a good-looking old man came to me,' so she praised him and added. 'He asked about you, and I informed him, and he asked about our livelihood and I told him that we were in a good condition.' Ishmael asked her, 'Did he give you any piece of advice?' She said, 'Yes, he told me to give his regards to you and ordered that you should keep firm the threshold of your gate.' On that Ishmael said, 'It was my father, and you are the threshold (of the gate). He has ordered me to keep you with me.' 

Then Abraham stayed away from them for a period as long as Allah wished, and called on them afterwards. He saw Ishmael under a tree near Zamzam, sharpening his arrows. When he saw Abraham, he rose up to welcome him (and they greeted each other as a father does with his son or a son does with his father). Abraham said, 'O Ishmael! Allah has given me an order.' Ishmael said, 'Do what your Lord has ordered you to do.' Abraham asked, 'Will you help me?' Ishmael said, 'I will help you.' Abraham said, Allah has ordered me to build a house here,' pointing to a hillock higher than the land surrounding it." The Prophet added, "Then they raised the foundations of the House (i.e. the Ka'ba). Ishmael brought the stones and Abraham was building, and when the walls became high, Ishmael brought this stone and put it for Abraham who stood over it and carried on building, while Ishmael was handing him the stones, and both of them were saying, 'O our Lord! Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing.' The Prophet added, "Then both of them went on building and going round the Ka'ba saying: O our Lord ! Accept (this service) from us, Verily, You are the All-Hearing, the All-Knowing." (2.127)   (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Prophets, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 583)"

Verses from the Noble Quran and the Bible that compliment the story:

From www.answering-christianity.com/yearly_pilgrimage.htm:

The Prophecy of the yearly pilgrimage to Mecca in the Noble Quran:

"Behold!  We gave the site, To Abraham, of the (Sacred) House [That is the Kaaba that he built], (Saying):  'Associate not anything (In worship) with Me; And sanctify My House For those who compass it round, Or stand up, Or bow, or prostrate themselves (Therein in prayer).  And proclaim the Pilgrimage among men: they will come to thee on foot and (mounted) on every kind of camel, lean on account of journeys through deep and distant mountain highways;  (The Noble Quran, 22:26-27)"

As we clearly see in the Noble Verses, Allah Almighty promised Abraham peace be upon him that He will cause for people from all around the world to come and proclaim the pilgrimage to the House (Kaaba) that he built.

The story began, when Abraham took Hagar and Ishmael to the city of Paran (Mecca), based on Allah Almighty's commands.   There was literally no life there; not even water.  Allah Almighty then ordered Abraham to build the House of GOD (Kaaba) and leave Hagar and his son Ishmael there.  When later Hagar and Ishmael became very thirsty after they ran out of the water they brought with them in the journey, Hagar prayed to Allah Almighty to provide water for them.  Hagar then started to desperately run to search for water seven times (I believe) back and forth between the Safa and Marwa hills.  Allah Almighty then caused Ishmael to rub his feet against the sand and a pool of water, the water of Zumzum came out.

The sections of this article are:

1-  The House of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

2-  But aren't Muslims still physically bowing down to the Kaaba itself? 
      -  See also how the Bible's Prophets (including Jesus) Prayed the Islamic way.
      -  The Kaaba also maximizes the Worship of GOD Almighty by unifying the Muslims.

3-  What is the difference then between the hindu idols and the Kaba?
4-  What about the black stone near the Kaaba?  How sacred is it?
5-  Conclusion.

1-  The House of GOD Almighty in the Noble Quran and the Bibles:

In Matthew 21:43, It's a Clear Warning from Jesus (peace be upon him) to Jews that the kingdom of God shall be taken away from them and will be given to another nation can serve it, This nation must be the Great nation of Ishmael mentioned in Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)..and definitely the nation of Islam ,followers of Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him).

The word Stone (Corner Stone) in both verses was used by prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself referring to his similitude with other prophets:

Sahih Al Bukhari:
Volume 4, Book 56, Number 735:

Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah's Apostle said, "My similitude in comparison with the other prophets before me, is that of a man who has built a house nicely and beautifully, except for a place of one brick in a corner. The people go about it and wonder at its beauty, but say: 'Would that this brick be put in its place!' So I am that brick, and I am the last of the Prophets."

For further understanding to the Corner Stone mentioned in Psalms 118, Here is the earlier Verses of the Chapter:

118:10 All nations compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD will I destroy them.
118:11 They compassed me about; yea, they compassed me about: but in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
118:12 They compassed me about like bees; they are quenched as the fire of thorns: for in the name of the LORD I will destroy them.
118:13 Thou hast thrust sore at me that I might fall: but the LORD helped me.
118:14 The LORD is my strength and song, and is become my salvation.
118:15 The voice of rejoicing and salvation is in the tabernacles of the righteous: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
118:16 The right hand of the LORD is exalted: the right hand of the LORD doeth valiantly.
118:17 I shall not die, but live, and declare the works of the LORD.
118:18 The LORD hath chastened me sore: but he hath not given me over unto death.
118:19 Open to me the gates of righteousness: I will go into them, and I will praise the LORD:
118:20 This gate of the LORD, into which the righteous shall enter.
118:21 I will praise thee: for thou hast heard me, and art become my salvation.

Regards,
Salaam (peace)

To the reader, also please visit:

From www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm:

Muhammad (peace be upon him) was foretold in the Bibles:

The sections here are:

1-  Introductory Questions and my open challenge.
2-  In the Gospel of John and New Testament.
3-  In the Book of Isaiah.
4-  In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam.
5-  The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today. 
      See proofs from the Bible and History.  Cities were mentioned and documented.

Introductory Questions:  

Why did GOD end His revelations with Muhammad and not with Jesus?
Answer to the question.

Question: What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?
Answer to the question.

* The Bible and the Hadiths (Sayings of Prophet Muhammad) were written in a 3000-year and 200-year span respectively.  They both contain a lot of Truth from GOD Almighty, and unfortunately, also a lot of falsehood and man-made corruption.

The Noble Quran, on the other hand, was documented as it was revealed to Prophet Muhammad, and Allah Almighty promised that He would keep it perfectly protected by Himself Personally:

"We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption).  (The Noble Quran, 15:9)"

"Nay, this is a Glorious Quran, (inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved!  (The Noble Quran, 85:21-22)"

Prophecies about Islam in the Bible - My open challenge to anyone to refute this.

In the Gospel of John and New Testament:

In the Gospel of John: Muhammad is mentioned by the name and was foretold in the Gospel of John. This is a must read article!  It proves that Jesus peace be upon him predicted for the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him to come after him.

The Aramaic Bible predicts the coming of Muhammad by the exact word.

Further proofs from the Aramaic Bible Society.   A very good proof from the Aramaic Bible Society web site regarding Muhammad's name mentioned in the Greek Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is a must visit link!!.

Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from them and give it to the Muslims.

My detailed rebuttal to a Christian rebuttal about Muhammad was foretold by Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  I addressed all of their rebuttal points and refuted them.  The article also talks about the 24,000 books that the current Bible's 66 books came from, and how that makes the current 66 chosen books extremely unreliable and doubtful.

In the Book of Isaiah:

Isaiah 42-54 seem to predict Islam and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel.

In the Book of Isaiah: Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" that is in the Noble Quran about Muhammad.   Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" in the Noble Quran which happened to Muhammad and never happened to any other Prophet.  It is the story where the Angel Gabriel repeatedly commands the Prophet to read, and the Prophet (i.e. Muhammad) repeatedly replies "I can't read".

Isaiah's Vision: He saw Jesus riding a donkey and Muhammad riding a camel.  He also saw the destruction of Babylon (i.e. Iraq today) and its idol gods, and replacing them with a Divine Religion (i.e. Islam today).

Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.

Muhammad in the Bible, (Isaiah 60), Pilgrimage to Mecca..!

Islamic Fasting was predicted by Isaiah in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

In other Books in the Bible, and other Biblical Prophets proving Islam:

Deuteronomy 18:18's Prophet is non other than Prophet Muhammad.

The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

The fall of pagan Babylon to pagan Persia in the Bible, and then the fall of pagan Persia (Iran + Iraq) to Islam.

The story of King Heraclius of the Byzantine and the foretold Prophet (Muhammad) in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  See how he was convinced that Prophet Muhammad of Arabia was indeed the foretold Prophet that Jesus predicted to come.

The emigration of the Muslims to Madina was foretold in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

The story of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Pilgrimage of Ezekiel to Mecca.

See the Proof that "Paran" in the Bible is "Mecca".  Paran in the Bible is Mecca today - See the Archeological discoveries that prove Mount Sinai is in Saudi Arabia.

Muhammad in the Bible; Standing upon Mount Arafat.

A great site that also shows Muhammad being foretold in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Prophecy about Muhammad in Song of Songs 5:16.   Exposes the deliberate mistranslation of the Verse to disprove the coming of Muhammad peace be upon him.

Muhammad in the Old and New Testaments.

Muhammad in the Bible, by Sheikh (Minister) Ahmed Deedat.

Jesus' Sacred place among Muslims.  By the Christian Scholar Michael Wolfe.

Prophecies from Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.

Also please visit Muhammad's (peace be upon him) life, prophecies and responses to all of the false charges against him.

The "lost people of Israel" are the people of Afghanistan and Kashmir today:

The "lost tribes of Israel" are the Muslims of Afghanistan and Kashmir -- Proved from the Bible and History -- Afghan and Kashmiri cities mentioned and documented.

3-  As to Noble Verse 2:146 confirming that the Jews and Christians know that Muhammad was a True Prophet but insisted on denying him, this is a laughable and complete hoax!  Here is what Noble Verses 2:140 - 2:150 Say to make it crystal clear to the reader:

[002:140] Or do ye say that Abraham, Isma'il Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes were Jews or Christians? Say: Do ye know better than God? Ah! who is more unjust than those who conceal the testimony they have from God? but God is not unmindful of what ye do!

[002:141] That was a people that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case:

[002:142] The fools among the people will say: "What hath turned them from the Qibla to which they were used?" Say: To God belong both east and West: He guideth whom He will to a Way that is straight.

[002:143] Thus, have We made of you an Ummat justly balanced, that ye might be witnesses over the nations, and the Apostle a witness over yourselves; and We appointed the Qibla to which thou wast used, only to test those who followed the Apostle from those who would turn on their heels (From the Faith). Indeed it was (A change) momentous, except to those guided by God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). And never would God Make your faith of no effect. For God is to all people Most surely full of kindness, Most Merciful.

[002:144] We see the turning of thy face (for guidance to the heavens: now Shall We turn thee to a Qibla that shall please thee. Turn then Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque: Wherever ye are, turn your faces in that direction. The people of the Book know well that that is the truth from their Lord. Nor is God unmindful of what they do.

[002:145] Even if thou wert to bring to the people of the Book all the Signs (together), they would not follow Thy Qibla; nor art thou going to follow their Qibla; nor indeed will they follow each other's Qibla. If thou after the knowledge hath reached thee, Wert to follow their (vain) desires,-then wert thou Indeed (clearly) in the wrong.

[002:146] The people of the Book know this as they know their own sons; but some of them conceal the truth which they themselves know.

[002:147] The Truth is from thy Lord; so be not at all in doubt.

[002:148] To each is a goal to which God turns him; then strive together (as in a race) Towards all that is good. Wheresoever ye are, God will bring you Together. For God Hath power over all things.

[002:149] From whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; that is indeed the truth from the Lord. And God is not unmindful of what ye do.

[002:150] So from whencesoever Thou startest forth, turn Thy face in the direction of the sacred Mosque; and wheresoever ye are, Turn your face thither: that there be no ground of dispute against you among the people, except those of them that are bent on wickedness; so fear them not, but fear Me; and that I may complete My favours on you, and ye May (consent to) be guided;

Allah Almighty in Noble Verse 2:145 is clearly refuting the nonsense that the Jews and Christians had invented about refusing to prostrate to GOD Almighty (through the direction of the "Qibla"), and associating partners with Him such as calling creation created from dust as "sons of GOD".

GOD Almighty has no sons and no partners.  Even the "Son of God" translation that you see today is all wrong!  The following detailed article clearly proves that "son of God" literally means "Servant of God" in Hebrew:

From www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm:

"Son of God" means "Servant of God" in Hebrew. Bible agrees with Islam, not with pagan trinity:

The sections of this article are:

1-  Comparison between Hebrew and Arabic.
2-  "Son of God" is the same as "Servant of God" in Hebrew!
3-  Articles with detailed proofs about "Son of God" means "Servant of God" in Hebrew.
4-  Jesus "feared" GOD in the Old Testament: Another proof that he is a Servant.
5-  Conclusion.

Comparison between Hebrew and Arabic:

In this article, I will prove that the Bible's "Son of GOD" translation is wrong, because it literally means "Servant of GOD" as Islam clearly defines it.   I have shown ample evidence from Hebrew below.

The following definitions were taken from: http://www.thebabycorner.com/pregnancy/babynames/find.php?sex=boy&begin=a

Important Note:  Since "Abd" means "Servant of" in Arabic, and "Abel" means "Breath of" in Hebrew, then this means "Abel" in Hebrew could also mean "Servant of" or "Creation of", since it literally also means "Breath of".

The following Hebrew words and their definitions were taken from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_God

Important Note:  Since "Beni" in Arabic means "People of", then this means that "Benie" in Hebrew also means "People of" or "Group of", or "Belongings of", which was falsely translated as "Sons of" throughout the entire Bible!

"In the Apocrypha and Pseudepigrapha

This literature contain a few passages in which the title "son of God" is given to the Messiah (see Enoch, cv. 2; IV Esdras vii. 28-29; xiii. 32, 37, 52; xiv. 9); but the title belongs also to any one whose piety has placed him in a filial relation to God (see Wisdom ii. 13, 16, 18; v. 5, where "the sons of God" are identical with "the saints"; comp. Ecclus. [Sirach] iv. 10).

In Judaism, it is through such personal relations that the individual becomes conscious of God's fatherhood, and gradually in Hellenistic and rabbinical literature "sonship to God" was ascribed first to every Israelite and then to every member of the human race (Abot iii. 15, v. 20; Ber. v. 1; see Abba). In one midrash, the Torah is said to be God's "daughter" (Leviticus Rabbah xx.)"

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_God)

Important Note:  "filial relation to God" means that a person or creation has a special place in GOD Almighty's Sight.  Also, "sons of God" being identical with "the saints" means that the term "son of God" is not an accurate one in the sense of being physically or biologically "part of GOD" or "Son of GOD" respectively as the trinitarian Christians falsely claim.

Also, "In one midrash, the Torah is said to be God's "daughter'", further proves my point that "Son of GOD" today in the English bibles don't mean more than a "Creation of GOD" or "Servant of GOD"; perhaps a very dear or special servant of GOD Almighty, as the Torah was also called "daughter of GOD".

"Son of God" is the same as "Servant of God" in Hebrew!

"In modern English usage, the Son of God is almost always a reference to Jesus Christ, whom Christianity holds to be the son of the Christian God, eternally begotten of God the Father and coeternal with God the Father and God the Holy Spirit.

Human or part-human offspring of deities are very common in other religions and mythologies, however. For example in the Epic of Gilgamesh, one of the earliest recorded legends of humanity, Gilgamesh claimed to be of both human and divine descent. Another well-known son of a god and a human is Hercules.

A great many pantheons also included genealogies in which various gods were descended from other gods, and so the term "son of god" may be applied to many actual deities as well."

(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_God)

Important Note:  So as we can see, the "Son of GOD" theory originally comes from pagan Greek origins.   And since most of the Bible's New Testament was written in Greek, then it had been without a doubt negatively influenced by such pagan theology, where Jesus being called "Son of GOD" is literally interpreted today as "part of GOD" or the "Creator of the Universe".

"In the Hebrew Bible Israel is both a man (Jacob, the son of Isaac) and the nation that descended from him.

Because of the shared name and organic identity, God speaks to the nation as though he were a single person. Israel is, in fact, God's son (Exod 4:22 — beni vechori yisrael; Deut 14:1 — banim atem l'Adonai; Jer 31:9 — ki hayiti le'yisrael le'av; Hosea 11:1 — mimitzrayim qarati livni).

Israel's Father nurtures him to grow up and become a worshiping servant (Exod 4:23 — "Let my son go that he may serve me")."

(http://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/hebrew/eved-adonai.html)

Important Note:  Here we see when Israel became GOD Almighty's "son", he reached the point of being GOD Almighty's "servant".  This means that "son of GOD" is nothing but a "Servant of GOD" as clearly defined in Islam.  It doesn't at all mean that the individual is part of GOD Almighty, or he is GOD the Father Himself.

This is further proven in this quote:

"The Inner Son Rescues His People
Read together, these texts make clear that the Plan (etzah) is set in God's mind. He will use the anointed one — and his circle of faithful-to-God disciples — as his agent for bringing rebellious Israel back to his sonship calling.

YHVH formed me from the womb to be His Servant,
to bring Jacob back to him,
in order that Israel might be gathered to Him.

It is too small a thing that you should be
my Servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob,
and to restore the preserved ones [netzurim] of Israel . . . (Isa 49:5, 6)

It's worth noting that the apostles Paul and Barnabas quoted this passage in reference to themselves, as being members of the Messiah's Remnant Israel (Acts 13:46-48; cf. Luke 2:32).

Thus, within the writings of Isaiah we observe the tensions, paradoxes, and hopes for fixing what is broken — both within God's servant people and in the creation as a whole. To accomplish this there are two who serve the Lord, two with the title "Eved." "

(http://www.hebrew-streams.org/works/hebrew/eved-adonai.html)

Important Note:  Again, we see that the Son of GOD's main responsibility is to Serve GOD Almighty and to Worship Him alone.  So a Son of GOD is basically a Servant of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Also, Jesus being called "Son of GOD" is also no different.  Him being the "Son of GOD" means he is a Servant of GOD Almighty, or Abdallah, since "Abd" means "Servant of" and "Allah" means "GOD" or "The Supreme GOD Almighty above all gods".

Articles with detailed proofs about "Son of God" means "Servant of God" in Hebrew:

Below are a list of articles that clearly prove from Hebrew resources that "Son of God" also means "Servant of God".

Son of GOD definition: From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#permission: Trinitarians:  Jesus is our Creator. Jesus:  Why are you thinking such evil things? Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV) 3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!" 4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said, "Why are you thinking such evil things? Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone." Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty.  Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding! Also visit:  Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?    Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Also visit: How many members are there in the Trinity?  There are 39+ Holy Figures. The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise! -  Where is Jesus' promise?? -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them. -  They ended up splitting into Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues. -  1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit". -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved. -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling.  -  They were barking at each other like rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures? Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!    Remember: If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient: Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members. Holy Gambling:    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it. The Church used to castrat 7-year old boys: [1] Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other?? The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]        Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages. Self-Castrating King Kong?    Why did Jesus masturbate before and during and after the temptation?  Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm  Strong evidence supported by NT and early Christian writings that satan even made Jesus masturbate!   Jesus later on castrated and emasculated himself; our Creator??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.  Jesus said maim and pluck your sinful body parts.  Jesus maims his satanic genitals but not his eyes and hands?  See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm  (Jesus: King of Kings or King Kong?) Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).  NT calls Jesus fat drunk [1] "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34).  Jesus was a brain-stoned addict to alcohol.  This also explains why he was highly verbally abusive in the NT (87 insults).  So him castrating and emasculating himself could've been no more than a drunk barf.  This is the same person that commanded maiming and plucking sinful body parts.  So why did he maim his??  They weren't perfect?  Or was he really genuinely afraid of satan to make him sin? Jude 1:9  "Even Michael, the chief angel, did not dare to insult the devil."  In either case and in all cases, how is Jesus my Creator? Castrating 7-year old boys: Forget Aisha was 9 when Prophet Muhammad consummated their marriage.  Her father was also the Prophet's closest companion and the first elected Islamic Caliph after the Prophet died.  Jesus castrated and emasculated himself, and he created a major plague in the Christian world that continues till this day.  Did you know that young boys as young as 7 were castrated in the Christian world, and under the blessing of the thoroughly sodomized priests of the barfatican? Islam came to free the Jews from the "burdens and shackles" (7:157) of their hardened Law, and to free the Christians from their "conjecture" (4:157), and to restore the Original Divine Religion of GOD Almighty, Islam, and to invite all of Mankind to Allah Almighty's Light and Guidance of Islam. See also the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles, and Prophecies. Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit Disclaimer: I apologize for the impoliteness.  People are desperately trying to seek the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty, and many of them are clearly seeing it in Islam [2].  Their corrupt religions and scriptures are leaving them confused and highly frustrated.  I certainly do not wish to be the obstacle that prevents people from coming to Islam.  If my communication offends you, then I am very sorry.  My mission is not to be rude and to offend people.  It is to call out falsehood, show its evil and darkness, and to shed the Divine Light of Islam.  I try to be as original and sincere as I can with my descriptions and portrayals.  But that is never an excuse for rudeness.    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling.  Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit Disclaimer: I apologize for the impoliteness.  People are desperately trying to seek the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty, and many of them are clearly seeing it in Islam [2].  Their corrupt religions and scriptures are leaving them confused and highly frustrated.  I certainly do not wish to be the obstacle that prevents people from coming to Islam.  If my communication offends you, then I am very sorry.  My mission is not to be rude and to offend people.  It is to call out falsehood, show its evil and darkness, and to shed the Divine Light of Islam.  I try to be as original and sincere as I can with my descriptions and portrayals.  But that is never an excuse for rudeness. Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)          Dismal Spiritual Failures: Let us examine the following: Romans 3:23 ESV For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins. No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:    1 Corinthians 2:15 A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself is not subject to any man's judgment.      How??? How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny: Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages. Self-Castrating King Kong?    Why did Jesus masturbate before and during and after the temptation?  Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm  Strong evidence supported by NT and early Christian writings that satan even made Jesus masturbate!   Jesus later on castrated and emasculated himself; our Creator??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.  Jesus said maim and pluck your sinful body parts.  Jesus maims his satanic genitals but not his eyes and hands?  See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm  (Jesus: King of Kings or King Kong?) Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).  NT calls Jesus fat drunk [1] "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34).  Jesus was a brain-stoned addict to alcohol.  This also explains why he was highly verbally abusive in the NT (87 insults).  So him castrating and emasculating himself could've been no more than a drunk barf.  This is the same person that commanded maiming and plucking sinful body parts.  So why did he maim his??  They weren't perfect?  Or was he really genuinely afraid of satan to make him sin? Jude 1:9  "Even Michael, the chief angel, did not dare to insult the devil."  In either case and in all cases, how is Jesus my Creator? Castrating 7-year old boys: Forget Aisha was 9 when Prophet Muhammad consummated their marriage.  Her father was also the Prophet's closest companion and the first elected Islamic Caliph after the Prophet died.  Jesus castrated and emasculated himself, and he created a major plague in the Christian world that continues till this day.  Did you know that young boys as young as 7 were castrated in the Christian world, and under the blessing of the thoroughly sodomized priests of the barfatican? Islam came to free the Jews from the "burdens and shackles" (7:157) of their hardened Law, and to free the Christians from their "conjecture" (4:157), and to restore the Original Divine Religion of GOD Almighty, Islam, and to invite all of Mankind to Allah Almighty's Light and Guidance of Islam. See also the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles, and Prophecies. Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit Disclaimer: I apologize for the impoliteness.  People are desperately trying to seek the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty, and many of them are clearly seeing it in Islam [2].  Their corrupt religions and scriptures are leaving them confused and highly frustrated.  I certainly do not wish to be the obstacle that prevents people from coming to Islam.  If my communication offends you, then I am very sorry.  My mission is not to be rude and to offend people.  It is to call out falsehood, show its evil and darkness, and to shed the Divine Light of Islam.  I try to be as original and sincere as I can with my descriptions and portrayals.  But that is never an excuse for rudeness. See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women: See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy: Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40. Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?    Insufficient Jesus: Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false: Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members. Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other?? The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]        Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages. Self-Castrating King Kong?    Why did Jesus masturbate before and during and after the temptation?  Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm  Strong evidence supported by NT and early Christian writings that satan even made Jesus masturbate!   Jesus later on castrated and emasculated himself; our Creator??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.  Jesus said maim and pluck your sinful body parts.  Jesus maims his satanic genitals but not his eyes and hands?  See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm  (Jesus: King of Kings or King Kong?) Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).  NT calls Jesus fat drunk [1] "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34).  Jesus was a brain-stoned addict to alcohol.  This also explains why he was highly verbally abusive in the NT (87 insults).  So him castrating and emasculating himself could've been no more than a drunk barf.  This is the same person that commanded maiming and plucking sinful body parts.  So why did he maim his??  They weren't perfect?  Or was he really genuinely afraid of satan to make him sin? Jude 1:9  "Even Michael, the chief angel, did not dare to insult the devil."  In either case and in all cases, how is Jesus my Creator? Castrating 7-year old boys: Forget Aisha was 9 when Prophet Muhammad consummated their marriage.  Her father was also the Prophet's closest companion and the first elected Islamic Caliph after the Prophet died.  Jesus castrated and emasculated himself, and he created a major plague in the Christian world that continues till this day.  Did you know that young boys as young as 7 were castrated in the Christian world, and under the blessing of the thoroughly sodomized priests of the barfatican? Islam came to free the Jews from the "burdens and shackles" (7:157) of their hardened Law, and to free the Christians from their "conjecture" (4:157), and to restore the Original Divine Religion of GOD Almighty, Islam, and to invite all of Mankind to Allah Almighty's Light and Guidance of Islam. See also the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles, and Prophecies. Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit Disclaimer: I apologize for the impoliteness.  People are desperately trying to seek the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty, and many of them are clearly seeing it in Islam [2].  Their corrupt religions and scriptures are leaving them confused and highly frustrated.  I certainly do not wish to be the obstacle that prevents people from coming to Islam.  If my communication offends you, then I am very sorry.  My mission is not to be rude and to offend people.  It is to call out falsehood, show its evil and darkness, and to shed the Divine Light of Islam.  I try to be as original and sincere as I can with my descriptions and portrayals.  But that is never an excuse for rudeness.    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40. Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The Bibles' sacred "book of toilet"  ספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here.  كتاب المرحاض المقدس    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews. Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:? Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19). Notice the language of how Satan was: 1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD. 2. Glorious. 3. "the chosen one". 4. The "Anointed". 5. ruler over earth. 6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD. 7. Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus. He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty. Holy Gambling:    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it. The Church used to castrat 7-year old boys: [1] Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other?? The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]        Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages. Self-Castrating King Kong?    Why did Jesus masturbate before and during and after the temptation?  Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm  Strong evidence supported by NT and early Christian writings that satan even made Jesus masturbate!   Jesus later on castrated and emasculated himself; our Creator??? Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.  Jesus said maim and pluck your sinful body parts.  Jesus maims his satanic genitals but not his eyes and hands?  See also Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses). www.answering-christianity.com/king_kong.htm  (Jesus: King of Kings or King Kong?) Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).  NT calls Jesus fat drunk [1] "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34).  Jesus was a brain-stoned addict to alcohol.  This also explains why he was highly verbally abusive in the NT (87 insults).  So him castrating and emasculating himself could've been no more than a drunk barf.  This is the same person that commanded maiming and plucking sinful body parts.  So why did he maim his??  They weren't perfect?  Or was he really genuinely afraid of satan to make him sin? Jude 1:9  "Even Michael, the chief angel, did not dare to insult the devil."  In either case and in all cases, how is Jesus my Creator? Castrating 7-year old boys: Forget Aisha was 9 when Prophet Muhammad consummated their marriage.  Her father was also the Prophet's closest companion and the first elected Islamic Caliph after the Prophet died.  Jesus castrated and emasculated himself, and he created a major plague in the Christian world that continues till this day.  Did you know that young boys as young as 7 were castrated in the Christian world, and under the blessing of the thoroughly sodomized priests of the barfatican? Islam came to free the Jews from the "burdens and shackles" (7:157) of their hardened Law, and to free the Christians from their "conjecture" (4:157), and to restore the Original Divine Religion of GOD Almighty, Islam, and to invite all of Mankind to Allah Almighty's Light and Guidance of Islam. See also the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles, and Prophecies. Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit Disclaimer: I apologize for the impoliteness.  People are desperately trying to seek the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty, and many of them are clearly seeing it in Islam [2].  Their corrupt religions and scriptures are leaving them confused and highly frustrated.  I certainly do not wish to be the obstacle that prevents people from coming to Islam.  If my communication offends you, then I am very sorry.  My mission is not to be rude and to offend people.  It is to call out falsehood, show its evil and darkness, and to shed the Divine Light of Islam.  I try to be as original and sincere as I can with my descriptions and portrayals.  But that is never an excuse for rudeness.    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves: Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine Will.  Trinity is a lie from Hell. See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5). Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:       Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners. Paul ate his vomit. Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women: See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy: Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.  (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity) Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?                 We read in the Bible that Prophets are servants and Jesus is the Son (Matthew 21:33-46).  Jesus is more than a Rasul (Prophet).  Jesus was also called Abd (slave) of GOD throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion.  Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits).  Jesus being King of kings means that he is the King of his Mansion's twelve thrones. King of kings for Jesus does not refer to the corrupt earthly kings and thieves.  They were offered to Jesus before during his temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all.  Jesus is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion.  Other people in the OT were called King of kings also.  So the title is not even unique to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).          Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]    Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,*] [2] [3].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links: "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)      (Click to play videos) "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157) Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)".  Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings.  He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son").  The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one".  Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON.  He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS.  The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one.  See the ample verses and analysis in the video.  Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew        Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.      In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews.  Son in their time meant Servant of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..." Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran?  Yes.  Here are several Noble Verses that do support it.  Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).    Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses prove trinity is false.  Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty.  His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]    Except GOD Alone!  Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν.  Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν.  He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.    And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called: 1-  GOD (El) of other people. 2-  Son of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). 3-  Begotten Son of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). 4-  GOD's First Born. 5-  GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers). 6-  GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name. 7-  King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT). 8-  All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).    Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1] King James Version Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities. New King James Version Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed. Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities. "Servant" here is slave.  Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2], the same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general, throughout the Bible [2].  Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT. In Arabic also it's the same.  My name Osama Abdallah, which means Osama slave of Allah (GOD).  Slave is a subject of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  A servant is independent.  A servant provides services.  He/she can quit serving without consequences and can even kick you out of their territory.  But a slave (ABD) is totally OWNED.    I elaborated on this point in details at: www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..." The Servants are the Prophets of Israel.  But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.  Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion.  Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits).  Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son (Matthew 21:33-46).  Jesus is only the Lord of the Jews' Mansion. Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran?  Yes.  Here are several Noble Verses that do support it.  Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).    Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD: www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm    John 1:1: John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran.  Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran. John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [ [1] [2] [3])."    The Word encompasses Jesus: From www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839: From brother Shaad: The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation..... Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV) 4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the ;witness of Jesus, and for the word of God... Revelation 1:2 2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad.  I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi.  Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesuss, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares. Trinity is false.  I have added your addition to: www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm take care, Osama Abdallah    Messiah definition: www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm

Article #1:

The following article was taken from: http://www.chick.com/information/bibleversions/articles/saviororservant.asp

Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant?"

Do you see a difference between these two Bible versions?

In the KJV, we find that Jesus is God's Son. In the NKJV, we find that He is God's servant. These are clearly not the same! The Greek word found in the text here is "pais". It can be used in Greek for either "son" or "servant." So which one is correct here?

The solution is simple: look at the context in which it is used. In English, we have many words that can have more than one meaning. If a translator, going from English to another language, came across the word "bear," he would have a choice of meanings. But it wouldn't take rocket science to figure out which one to use.

If the passage described a man with a heavy burden, the translator would understand that the man is going to "bear," or "carry" the burden. If, on the other hand, the passage described a hairy beast climbing a tree, the translator would understand the correct meaning here applies to a forest-dwelling animal that will eat nearly anything it finds. It's not really very hard.

Now look at the Bible passage above. What is being discussed?

• "children of the prophets"
• "covenant which God made with our fathers"
• "in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed."

It's clear, isn't it? The passage is talking about "children," and "fathers" and "seed." The word "pais" means "son." But the New King James translators chose "servant." Why? They were not alone. The New World Translation, created by the Jehovah's Witnesses who deny the deity of Jesus, translated this word "servant" also. So do the NIV, ASV, NASB and other modern Bible translations.

Could it be that these modern translators disagree that "pais" can be translated "son?" No, the NKJV committee translates this very word as "boy," "child" or "son" in Matthew 2:16; 17:18; 21:15; Luke 2:43; 9:42; and John 4:51. Yet they refused to translate the word as "son" in this powerful sermon where Peter presents Jesus as Messiah and Son of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

One has to ask, why were these translators so determined to deny the deity of Jesus in this passage? Is this a Bible you can trust with your eternal destiny?

Article #2:

The following excerpt was taken from: http://www.themodernreligion.com/comparative/christ/bible_son.htm

"Mr. Tom Harpur says in the preface to his book: "The most significant development since 1986 in this regard has been the discovery of the title "Son of God" in one of the Qumran papyri (Dead Sea Scrolls) used in relation to a person other than Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).....this simply reinforces the argument made there that to be called the Son of God in a Jewish setting in the first century is not by any means the same as being identical with God Himself." For Christ's Sake, pp. xii."

The article goes into great depth in refuting the polytheist trinity paganism.  I recommend reading it.

Article #3:

The following excerpt was taken from: http://www.mountainretreatorg.net/bible/god.html

"....And there is only one Jehovah God, who qualifies! In fact, the whole idea of Christ being just a man or lesser god, makes the Christian belief ridiculous.

Isaiah 43:10-11

• "Ye are My witnesses, saith the Lord, and My servant whom I have Chosen: that ye may know and believe Me, and understand that I AM He: before Me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after Me.
• I, even I, AM the Lord; and beside Me, There is No Saviour."

That word translated Lord there is in the Hebrew [y^ehovah] Jehovah. There is no god before who is the Saviour, and no god after. Jehovah God is the only possible Saviour. No man, nor superman, could accomplish the task of being burdened with all our sins, judged for them, and be resurrected without them. Even a non-Christians can understand the bankruptcy of any other idea. For when we actually stop to think about it seriously, it's quite ludicrous! Unless this man was the very revelation of God (the only one able to become sin for us, and withstand the judgment thereof), we have no Saviour! And that is exactly what God said in Isaiah chapter 43 verse 11. Who could accomplish such a feat to be a saviour? The answer in all reasonableness is, no one but Jehovah God is the Saviour."

Again, the article goes into great depth in refuting the polytheist trinity paganism.   I recommend reading it.

Jesus "feared" GOD in the Old Testament: Another proof that he is a Servant:

Let us look at the following verses from the Bibles:

1.  A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
2.  The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
3.  and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
decide by what he hears with his ears;

(From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 11:1-3)

In regards to the Spirit of GOD Almighty resting on Jesus, please visit:  The Spirit of GOD Almighty came upon others before and after Jesus in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Anyway, a simple question here must be asked:  How can Jesus be the Creator of the Universe if he feared GOD Almighty?  Trinitarians often say "Jesus is the Son of God".  And when one tries to get further elaboration from them about what exactly "Son of God" means, they end up telling him that Jesus is the Creator of the Universe.

Almost every single trinitarian Christian that I debated believes that Jesus is the Creator of the Universe.

Let us look at what Jesus said about himself and about GOD Almighty:

"I do nothing of myself  (From the NIV Bible, John 8:28)"

"My Father (GOD) is greater than I  (From the NIV Bible, John 14:28)"

"Father (GOD), into thy hands I commend my spirit  (From the NIV Bible, Luke 23:46)"

"And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone.  (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"

"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father.  (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 24:36)"

Do these quotes suggest at all that Jesus is in the same level as the Creator of the Universe? 

Conclusion:

As we've seen above, in Hebrew, "Son of God" can also be translated as "Servant of God", which literally means "Abdallah" in Arabic.   Abd = Servant, and allah = Allah, or the Supreme GOD Almighty that is above all gods.  So, Jesus being called "Son of God" does not mean anything about him being part of GOD or GOD Almighty Himself.  It simply means "Servant of God" since Jesus existed among Jews and preached the Gospel to them.

Allah Almighty said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"

Jesus himself in his own quotes in the New Testament refuted trinity as shown above.   The Bible in the Old Testament also refuted trinity by saying that Jesus will have the spirit of fearing GOD Almighty in him. 

How can GOD Almighty fear Himself?  And why would the Creator of the Universe have any fear in Him?

Jesus clearly was the Servant of GOD Almighty as Islam claims.  Jesus was the Jews' Messiah and Leader, and Allah Almighty's Messenger to them.  But he was not part of GOD Almighty, nor His biological son.

See also the following articles:

"Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.

Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.

Does calling Jesus "Son of God" prove that he is GOD?

The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

Son of GOD: Some Muslims' Misconception.

Jesus said that GOD shall take His Kingdom from the Jews and give it to the Muslims.

Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!

Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross.  I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken.    My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion.  I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.

What is the place of Jesus, Jews and Christians in Islam?

The Blessed Jesus in Islam.

Isaiah 42-54 seem to predict Islam and the removal of GOD Almighty's Covenant from the people of Israel.

In the Book of Isaiah: Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" that is in the Noble Quran about Muhammad.   Isaiah in the Bible foretold the story of "Al-alak" in the Noble Quran which happened to Muhammad and never happened to any other Prophet.  It is the story where the Angel Gabriel repeatedly commands the Prophet to read, and the Prophet (i.e. Muhammad) repeatedly replies "I can't read".

Isaiah's Vision: He saw Jesus riding a donkey and Muhammad riding a camel.  He also saw the destruction of Babylon (i.e. Iraq today) and its idol gods, and replacing them with a Divine Religion (i.e. Islam today).

Prophet Muhammad was foretold in Isaiah 42.

Muhammad in the Bible, (Isaiah 60), Pilgrimage to Mecca..!

Islamic Fasting was predicted by Isaiah in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Muhammad peace be upon him in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

He wrote:

    The trials and tribulations of Dishonest Abe, also known as a figment of Muhammad’s imagination, end where they began—by ripping off a well-documented Bible story. Tabari II:111 “Lot bin Haran bin Terah, son of Abraham’s brother, and his people, the folks of Sodom, traveled from Babylon following their religion. They went to Syria as fugitives with Sarah. It is said that Terah, Abraham’s father, went with them.” Yes, Terah was Abe’s dad, not Azar, like the Traditions have been insisting. And yes, they were close when they said that they left Babylon. It was actually Ur, a hundred miles south. And yes, the troop included Lot and Sarah. They were not, however, fugitives, they had no religion, and the people of Sodom were not with them. Lot would eventually live in Sodom, but that wouldn’t occur for a couple of thousand miles and many years.
   “Terah died. Abraham, Lot and Sarah went on to Syria and then to Egypt, which was then ruled by a Pharaoh named Sinan bin Al-wan bin Ubayd bin Uwayj bin Imlaq bin Lud bin Shem bin Noah. He was the brother of Dahhak/Nimrod, who had appointed him governor of Egypt.” These boys would have been so much better off if they had just stuck with the Biblical account rather than drumming up this nonsense. Truth is, they would have been better off if they had just stuck with Judaism and never perverted it into Islam—and so would we.
   “After this, Abraham, Lot and Sarah went back to Syria and settled in Palestine. Allah sent Lot to the people of Sodom. They were disbelievers in Allah and immoral. Allah said, ‘You commit lewdness such as no creature before. You come into males, cut the roads, and commit abominations in your assemblies.’” [Qur’an 29:28] Allah, please, watch the language. They have a perfectly good word for that male thing. It’s called homosexuality. As for the lewdness, they have a word for that too. And even you should know it—as it was named after the town. But as for “cutting the roads,” I’m at a loss.
    Fortunately, Muslim sages are ever ready to enlighten us. Tabari II:112 “Allah’s statement, ‘you cut the road’ means: When the traveler, the son of the road, passed by they would block the road and perform with him that ugly deed.... Some say that they used to shorten whoever passed by. Other say that they used to break wind in their assemblies, while some said that they used to have intercourse with each other there.... Some Islamic scholars agree, while others differ. The abomination was breaking wind.” I wonder if that was why Allah taught Adam about “the fart and the little fart?” It may have been why Muhammad revealed this pearl in Bukhari’s Book of Wudu: Bukhari:V1B4N139 “He asked Allah’s Messenger about a person who imagined to have passed wind during the Salat prayer. Allah’s Messenger replied: ‘He should not leave his Salat unless he hears sound or smells something.’” You see, Islam can be tolerant.
    Others say: “They would accost a rider and seize him and mount him,” explains surah 29:28. Or: “Allah’s statement refers to the fact that no male jumped upon a male before the people of Lot.” Then you have Muhammad’s version: “The Messenger of God said, ‘And you commit abominations in your assemblies means they would cut off wayfarers and mock them, and that was the abomination that they committed.’” Horror of horrors! Being mocked was Muhammad’s curse in life. Virtually everyone he encountered berated him.
    The Messenger had a lot to say about Lot. Although Lot never preached a day in his life and was the furthest thing from a prophet, the temptation to transform him into a mini-Muhammad was too great to pass up. Tabari II:115 “Lot called on them to worship Allah. By Allah’s command he tried to prohibit them from doing those things which Allah disliked such as brigandage, committing lewd acts, and entering males in the posteriors. Because they persisted, he threatened them with painful doom. They rejected his admonitions, saying to him ‘Bring Allah’s doom upon us, if you are telling the truth!’” I could have sworn that we’ve heard this story before.
   “At length Lot asked his Lord for help against them, since the matter was dragging on, as was their persistence in sinfulness. Then Allah—when he wanted to disgrace them and destroy them and help His Messenger Lot against them—sent Gabriel and two other angels. It had been said that the two other angels were Michael and Israfil.” Every word of this was loaded, chosen specifically to distress Muhammad’s Meccan tormentors. “Mess will me and my god will get you.”
    Tabari II:120 “Gabriel picked up their land with his wing and turned it over. He lifted it so high the inhabitants of heaven heard the crowing of roosters and the barking of dogs. He turned them upside down and rained upon them stones of clay.” [Qur’an 15:74]
    The 15th surah says: “Thus did We turn it upside down, and rained down upon them stones of what had been decreed. Surely in this are signs for those who examine. And surely it is on a road that still abides. Most surely there is a sign in this for the believers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The dwellers of the Rock rejected the messengers.”
    Allah is daring us to use his depiction of Sodom as a proof of his divinity. But Sodom wasn’t turned upside down, it wasn’t stoned with clay, nor was it ever close enough to heaven for the angelic host to hear the roosters. And the roads have long since disappeared. We know that because archeologists have found Sodom, Gomorrah, and the other cities of the plain. And guess what? They are exactly where the Bible said they would be. They were destroyed exactly when the Bible said that they were destroyed. And yes, they were buried exactly how the Bible proclaimed—under brimstone. Once again, the Bible was precisely accurate and the Muhammad/Allah team couldn’t even plagiarize it without burying themselves.
    Some of the lowlights of the versions that follow include: Tabari II:121 “Gabriel spread out his wings and gouged out their eyes.” “Then Allah took them to Syria.” Which is odd because that’s where we were told they were in the first place.
    This next one is a hoot. There are more errors than sentences. “Gabriel seized its girdle, then snatched it up so high into the sky that the angels could hear their dogs. He threw rocks at the laggards, one after the other. There were three towns called Sodom that lay between Medina and Syria. It has been mentioned that there were four million people in the town.” Four thousand, maybe. They all had different names, like Gomorrah, and they were unearthed on the shores of the Dead Sea.
    Muhammad’s convoluted story of Lot is repeated a half dozen times in different surahs and that many times again in the Traditions. It’s no wonder it was the prophet’s personal favorite. He had the opportunity to turn a nobody into a messenger whose people got pummeled because they mocked him.
    We leave Volume II of Tabari with these stirring words, “O Messenger! How many books did Allah reveal? He said, ‘One hundred and four books. To Adam He revealed ten leaves, to Seth fifty leaves, and to Enoch thirty leaves. To Abraham he revealed ten leaves and also the Torah, Gospel, the Zabur, and the Rurqan.’” Oops. Even Allah knows better. The Torah wasn’t written until the time of Moses. But what makes this statement particularly lame is that eighty-five percent of the Torah chronicles the history of people who lived after Abraham died.
    Tabari II:130 “I said, ‘O Messenger! What were the books of Abraham?’ He answered, ‘They were all proverbs such as, ‘O dominated, afflicted and deceived king! I did not send you to collect all the world, one part to another, rather I sent you so that I would not have to hear the cry of the oppressed.’” If they were all that feeble, it’s little wonder no one other than the illiterate messenger ever read them.

My response:

Here in this section you brought nothing of substance that shows contradictions between the Bible and the Al-Tabari narrations about the stories of Abraham and Lot.  At either case, and as I showed and proved above with ample evidence, both the Bible and the Hadith narrations are doubtful and filled with lies, corruptions, alterations and fabricated stories.  Again, Consider the following few examples that consist of historical contradictions in the Bibles:

It is quite obvious that Christians today believe in third party authors' words as the words of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  This is a very serious corruption in the Bible that must be taken into deep consideration by the Bible's followers.  Please visit "Is the Bible the true word of GOD?" to see a full and complete paper about the logical corruptions in the Bible, along with many Christian famous priests and ministers opinions that agree with the Bible's corruption.  I have their personal quotes in that site.

Also, as to the parts of the Bible that Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

After that, please visit:  Prophet Muhammad was foretold in many places in the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments.

As to the Hadiths, their narrations and especially the ones above from the Al-Tabari history book, came from historical accounts that were documented LITERALLY 100s of years after the Prophet's, peace be upon him, death.   Not everything you read is accurate and was necessarily told by the Prophet word for word, or even if at all!  It is important, if you wish to be objective and honest, to put the Noble Quran as the center for any Islamic argument.  If the Noble Quran makes a claim, then it is definitely agreed upon by all Muslims, and it is perfectly authentic.  Otherwise, GOD Almighty only Knows about what is true and what is false regarding the narrations that you use in Hadiths and Sunnah books.

In fact, the Al-Tabari volume is not very authentic and very doubtful when compared to the Hadiths' volumes and collections.  But even the Hadiths contain much corruptions in them, because they were documented 100s of years after the Prophet's death.   The "Sahih Bukhari" or "Authentic Bukhari" in English was the first volume to be compiled.  Bukhari is not an Arabic name!  Bukhari is derived from the word "Bukhara", which is a city in Afghanistan:

"We now come to the Iron Gate which corresponds exactly to the Quranic description, and has the best claim to be connected with Alexander's story.  It is near another Derbend in Central Asia, Hissar District, about 150 miles southeast of Bukhara......."  (www.answering-christianity.com/iron_gates.htm)  

For anyone who knows the Islamic history, this means that the Muslims spread Islam to the pagan Arabs, established the Islamic State in Arabia, then fought the Persians (Iranians) and the Romans; invaded the Persians and crushed the Romans, then fought the Hindus in Hindustan, invaded much of their lands such as "Pakistan", "Afghanistan", and much of the Indian territories, convert people there to Islam, and then Brother Bukhari appeared from his home town, Bukhara and decided to compile the Hadiths of "Sahih Bukhari".

Are these narrations all 100% perfect and reliable?  Any person with the least atom of a brain would say no.  I am not saying that all of the Hadiths must be rejected.  But for us to day to have close to 2,000,000 of them is quite ridiculous, because they can't all have been written down during our Prophet's times in Arabia.  Most of the Hadiths' chains of narrations today have 10s of narrators in them.  In the Hadith books, you would see something like the following:

"About such and such, that he heard his father say that such and such said, that he heard such and such say, that he heard such and such say, etc...."  Most of the narrations' links have tons of narrators in them, many times more than 10, and these people would be generations after each others!  In other words, they're not people at the same age or the same group.  And the worst dilemma of all, is that many of these chain of narrations have broken links in them, meaning, that two or three generations are missing in the chain!

Most of the hadiths are corrupt and are not recognized as authentic.  Most certainly the books of Al-Tabari and Ishaq are among the weakest and most doubtful sources, because they are more like history books that were written 300 years after the Prophet's death.  Their narrations were orally transmitted by others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).   Many people took hadiths out of context, and many others added or took from them, and many others even fabricated lies, as Allah Almighty Warned us in the Noble Quran:

"A section of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians) say:  Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers ( Muslims), but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) turn back (from Islam).  (The Noble Quran, 3:72)"

Also, it is almost impossible to narrate a narration/saying accurately after 300 years in Arabic, because the language is very complex, poetical and artistic:

From www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm:

Problems with the proper Arabic language and the large quantity of narrations:

In Arabic, only original Arabs and those who speak proper (not slang) Arabic fluently, understand and appreciate the fact that the words are very minimum and their meanings are very maximum.  It is true and not a deception or innovation by translators to English that a single Arabic word can and would be translated to 3-5 English words!  The reason for this is because in Arabic (and this is part of the complexity in grammar, art and poetry of the Arabic language) meanings and not necessarily actual words can be all put together in one word.  In Arabic, a word is not original.  There are of course "root" words, but in most proper Arabic words, the actual word is not original; meaning that depending on the grammar, letters (of meaning) can be added to or taken from it to add or take from its meaning and intention.  This can change the entire meaning of the whole word  and sentence.

That is why Arabic poetry is historically known to be a very complex and advanced one.

Having said all of this, in the case of the hadiths, given the fact that there exists "weak/doubtful ones", and what is considered as "strong and reliable ones", it is difficult to know for sure if a single hadith was told as is 100% unchanged (intentionally or not intentionally) by the Prophet peace be upon him. One word taken off from the hadith and the whole meaning can and would be changed to something else.

For those "reliable or strong" hadiths, their sources are doubtful.  I have no doubt that the companions of the Prophet may Allah Almighty bless their souls did not intentionally commit forgery or lies.  But for one such as Abu Huraira to narrate thousands upon thousands of hadiths is preposterous!  Given the complexity and sensitivity of the Arabic language, it is extremely vital that every word be included in the narration.  I find it impossible to believe that Abu Huraira and many others like him were able to narrate everything perfectly in its original text.

That is why I accept the hadiths that are linked to the Noble Quran as the Truth and reject the others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).

Also, there is no proof what so ever that all of the accepted hadiths of today were all written during the Prophet's time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).  Some or even many of them were probably written down from individuals for personal use, but the thousands of hadiths (I was told close to 2 million hadiths!!) that exist today were not possibly all written during the Prophet's time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). 

I only accept the hadiths that have a direct relationship to the Noble Quran, such as explaining how to Pray, fast, etc....

Example about my own name to simplify things:

Take "Osama" for example.  First of all, Osama in Arabic is written as "Osamat" with the "t" silent.  The "t" however is not always silent, and it can be used to give meanings and intentions to the name "Osama".  Osama can be written as "Osamatun", "Osamatan", "Osamatin", "Osamata", "Osamati", "Osamato".  The punctuations added to the "t" cause for any of these names to be pronounced.

When writing positively about "Osama", such as "Osama bin Zaid", the leader who defeated the Romans in one of the battles, these punctuations are added to his name for praising.  Unfortunately, I am not an expert in Arabic, nor can I explain in deep details about proper Arabic, but I know that use of punctuations IMPROPERLY can result in insulting the individual.  I can write negatively about a name using punctuations in their proper places.

THE REASON WHY THE NOBLE QURAN IS SO PERFECT IS BECAUSE its grammar was constructed in a very complex way, and the Arabic words were not only original words, but were put together uniquely in an excellent artistic fashion that no Arabic poet could match up to back then when Allah Almighty challenged the Arabs to come up with a "SURAH LIKE IT".

To the reader, please visit:  What parts of the Bible and Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth, and Why?

The above Al-Tabari narrations' disagreement with the pornful bible; the book of women's vaginas and breasts taste like "wine", does not make them any less than the bible itself, because the bible contains OVERWHELMING contradictions in its own historical accounts.   To the reader, please visit:  Errors, Contradictions and Historical Corruption in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

So much for your pornful bible being the measuring stick for the Truth, when it is notorious in lies and corruptions!

Back to My Rebuttals, and exposing the lies of the Answering Islam team section.

Rebuttals to Craig Winn - "The Prophet of Doom" book.

Answering Trinity.

Contradictions and History of Corruption in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Questions about Jesus that trinitarian Christians don't have logical answers for.

What parts of the Bible do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth? and Why?

"Allah" was GOD Almighty's original Name in the Bible according to the Hebrew and Aramaic sources.

Scientific Miracles in Islam and the Noble Quran.

Most of the Bible's books and gospels were written by mysterious people!

Jesus mentioned Muhammad by the name in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Did Isaiah 53 really prophesies about the crucifixion of Jesus? It supports Islam's claims about Jesus peace be upon him never died on the cross.  I also addressed John 19:36-37 from the Bible and proved that Jesus never got crucified, since GOD Almighty promised that he will protect Jesus' body and not let even a single bone be broken.  My question to all Christians is: How in the world is it possible for the feet to get nailed on the cross without any penetration to the bones by the nails, hence breaking part of the feet's bones?! I also added refutations to Exodus 12:46, Numbers 9:12, Zechariah 12:10 and Psalm 34:20, which supposedly prove the Christians' belief about Jesus crucifixion.  I proved that this dogma has no truth what so ever and exposed the wrong Trinitarian English translation of Zechariah 12:10.

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