rebuttal to ali sina

[Black Muslim]

Is criticism classed as an insult?

Ahhh . Now I see what they point at . The answer is , no . Nobody said not to talk your mind and discuss subjects . It's a good thing and it isn't forbidden in Islam . We Muslims are ordered to work with this saying :

21:18 "Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs"

That's what we do . We show the error of these people's standards and ways .

An insult is when a scumbag like this son of zina goes running his filthy foul mouth which he just can't keep shut . They call it freedom of speech . But when you play their game and insult them with things that are true , they go weeping and boohoo , the Muslim is bad ! He hates me !

However , we commoners don't have the right to do so . The leader of the nation or the judge are the ones allowed to do it . Since the nation isn't Islamic in the first place , we can't .

[Tanveer]

Is criticism classed as an insult?

Ahhh . Now I see what they point at . The answer is , no . Nobody said not to talk your mind and discuss subjects . It's a good thing and it isn't forbidden in Islam . We Muslims are ordered to work with this saying :

21:18 "Rather, We dash the truth upon falsehood, and it destroys it, and thereupon it departs"

That's what we do . We show the error of these people's standards and ways .

An insult is when a scumbag like this son of zina goes running his filthy foul mouth which he just can't keep shut . They call it freedom of speech . But when you play their game and insult them with things that are true , they go weeping and boohoo , the Muslim is bad ! He hates me !

However , we commoners don't have the right to do so . The leader of the nation or the judge are the ones allowed to do it . Since the nation isn't Islamic in the first place , we can't .

Thanks for claryfying bro :D I had a feeling criticism would be ok but thought id double check.

[muzi123]

if i saw ali sina i would kill him

[Black Muslim]

unfortunately , you can't .

[Tanveer]

if i saw ali sina i would kill him

Vigilantism=haram.
Brother Black Muslim, is it permissable for civilians to exact the law if the state gives a bounty?

[There is only one God]

if i saw ali sina i would kill him

Too bad Allah doesn't want him. He'll probably survive and wander off headlessly where he can continue to attack Islam in the safety of his mommy's basement.

[muzi123]

why cant i kill him i myself would chop his head of hes insulted the prophet muhammad saw the greatest human he insulted gods favorite prophet i wont get a sin

[QuranSearchCom]

why cant i kill him i myself would chop his head of hes insulted the prophet muhammad saw the greatest human he insulted gods favorite prophet i wont get a sin

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

I actually tend to disagree with you.  While there are narrations that say that the Prophet ordered the assasinations of 10 people, mostly were dangerous poets who were bent on deceiving people, but these stories remain doubtful. 

Also, the Prophet, peace be upon him, when he had the upper hand, he forgave the disbelievers and gave them second chances.  In Islam, we're also commanded to show "The Love of Allah" to people.  I've demonstrated this thoroughly at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/david_wood_rebuttals.htm.  See my rebuttal to David Wood's "Three Stages of Jihad" video.  I wrote the Noble Verses in text.

Now regarding Ali Sina and others, I don't believe in killing anyone who doesn't physically harm Muslims and kill them.  The battle field is reasoning and laying down the facts, and proving your case.  It's not a battle field of swords and conquoring.  Today the neo-cons and the zionists influence the Western leaders, and even cause them to wage wars at us, from mere blogs and websites.  People like Robert Spencer, Pamela Galligar and others are heavy weights out there.  Did you know that the Norway terrorist, Anders Behring Breivik, spoke personally with Pamela?  So if your Faith can't stand the logic and Truth, then your faith is false.  If it can stand the Truth and logic, and it can prove itself to be Miraculous, then it is from Allah Almighty.  No need to kill people for anything. 

Besides, do you think killing Ali Sina would really change anything??  What we need is to kill the arguments of Ali Sina and his likes.  Not to seek out and kill individuals.

Also dear brother, watch out from joking around in text.  These types of comments could be taken seriously be the authority.  So please watch out akhi.  I am not fearing for this website, for they can't shut it down, insha'Allah.  I am rather concerned about you and other brothers who may joke about such things.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[zulfiqarchucknorris]

Peace
Dear muzi123
the prophet NEVER killed anyone on the mere premese of insults.
killing a life not for you you to take is forbidden
dont take life, rebute him, protest against him, do some investigation, but dont kill
the feeling you have are dangerous and could get you and others in trouble, with the law and the big man upstairs (God)
peace

[RamziBinNabil]

Kill him metaphoricallly.

[Black Muslim]

I find some serious statements here .

why cant i kill him i myself would chop his head of hes insulted the prophet muhammad saw the greatest human he insulted gods favorite prophet i wont get a sin

You can't kill him because you're not in charge of nation . Only the leader or the judge and such have the right do so . If every civilian says he wants to do so then chaos will spread .

While there are narrations that say that the Prophet ordered the assasinations of 10 people, mostly were dangerous poets who were bent on deceiving people, but these stories remain doubtful. 

I just want to note that unless there is an evidence these narrations are doubtful or incorrect , they remain trusted . We cannot doubt a saying of the prophet just because some psychopathic hypocrites don't agree with it . What we should do is deal with these narrations for their true value and refute the irrationality and idiocy of his likes . There have been poets who have been killed indeed . But is it just because they said they don't agree with Islam ? Of course not ! They were killed for their disgusting filthy holes named "mouths" . They said bizarre things about prophet Muhammad peace upon him and Islam and the companions . Moreover , they spread chaos and encouraged war . That's why it was necessary to get rid of them , the same way we get rid of a tumor .

Now regarding Ali Sina and others, I don't believe in killing anyone who doesn't physically harm Muslims and kill them.
So if your Faith can't stand the logic and Truth, then your faith is false.  If it can stand the Truth and logic, and it can prove itself to be Miraculous, then it is from Allah Almighty.  No need to kill people for anything.

It isn't a matter of personal believes . It's a matter of the teachings of Islam . Insulting God , faith , or prophet Muhammad all peace and blessings upon him is a serious crime that messes with the pillars of religion . The Islamic nations STANDS with religion . When you mess with it , you endanger the nation . And I'm not talking on my own .

http://www.islamweb.net/media/index.php?page=article&lang=A&id=111861
http://islamqa.info/ar/ref/22809
http://ar.islamway.net/article/886
http://www.saaid.net/Doat/ehsan/128-3.htm

Besides, do you think killing Ali Sina would really change anything?

If it wasn't for the cowardice and load of crap the leaders of nations do , it would have changed a lot of things . Exterminating these tumors is for the safety of the nation . And to make every single low life form think a thousand time before opening his hole . Sure , we should kill their sick arguments . But a criminal should be punished . Or maybe you would like every single person in the future to insult Islam while you listen to it as if it was a daily routine ?!

[RamziBinNabil]

Your posts are pwnage, even when you don't try. LOL Ma Sha' Allah.

[RamziBinNabil]

and the big man upstairs (God)

Akhi, for the future, I think it is better if you avoid using such comparisons to Almighty Allah.

[zulfiqarchucknorris]

OK, i will avoid using those terms to refer to God, thanks bro.

[Black Muslim]

pwnage ?