Sallam
before I start I will like to thank you for not banning me and for replying only on the blog, I am only using Sunni hadiths here and won't curse the main symbols you love like Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman, Aisha so no resentment is felt and only logic is applied, though I do hate their deeds, very much.
Why don't you just admit it, you hate the Ahlul-Bayt (as). You are the type of person who would have followed Aisha in the war with Ali (as) which cost the lives of 30000 Muslims. I am going to give brief replies, but am gonna give put a large part to refute you. However first you have not replied to these following points that I proved with your hadiths:
1- Muhammad (saww) interceded both during and after his martyrdom.
2- Yacoub (as) interceded for his sons, why didn't he tell them to ask yourselves, they didn't, they just went straight to him as they knew their duas are pretty much useless after their crimes.
3- That the prophet (saww) made Ali (as) leader, your books not ours, refer to my previous post about Ali (as) where Abu Bakr said to Ali (as) after the deceleration at Ghadeer, "Congratulations, Congratulations to you, O son of Abu Talib. Today you became the master of every believing man and woman".
4- The prophet (saww) said "I am in the state of war with those who will fight you, and in the state of peace with those who are peaceful to you" to Ali, al-Hassan, al-Hussein, and Fatimah (as). So from this alone Muhammad (saww) is at war with Abu Bakr, Aisha, Muawiya and Yazeed.
5- Read the rest about Ali (as), I expect you to refute each hadith individually, something you missed out as its from your books, some 'sahih' so definitely happened.
To your comment now:
1- We glorify the Ahlul-Bayt (as) because the prophet (saww) did, if you dare say Aisha was part of the Ahlul-Bayt (as) then I will paste you the part of my document that refutes you using Quran and your two 'sahih' books.
2- We worship their graves? Have you been there, have you seen a Shia pray and "bow" towards them instead of the kibla. Shias crawl in a show of humility, we will never forget the sacrifice Imam Hussein (as) the prophet (saww) would cry for. We don't associate them with Allah (SWT), Adhubillah, you associating Shias with deviant groups like Alawites.
3- Since you have insulted the practices of the prophet (saww) and that of lady Zainab (as) I will paste the part of the document that once read, you must repent if you know what's best for you:
Why do Shias mourn Imam Hussein (as) annually?
Abd al-Rahman b. Yazid said: When al-Ash'ath b. Qais entered the house of 'Abdullah he was having his breakfast. He ('Abdullah b. Umar) said: Abd Muhammad (al-Asha'th), come near to the breakfast. Thereupon he said: Is not today the day of 'Ashura? He ('Abd al-Rahman) said: Do you know what the day of 'Ashura is? He said: What is it? He said: It is a day on which the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) used to observe fast before the (fasting) in the month of Ramadan (became) obligatory. But when it became obligatory the (fasting of 'Ashura) was abandoned (as compulsory). Abu Kuraib said: He (the Holy Prophet) abandoned it.
Sahih Muslim, Book 6, Number 2510-2513
*Here we see Muhammad (saww) abandoned celebrating Ashura by abandoning the fast of Ashura, let’s see why:
Ummul Fadhl the daughter of al-Harith said that she entered on the Messenger of Allah (saww) and she said: “Oh! Messenger of Allah, I saw a strange dream last night. He said: And what is it? She said: It was difficult. He said: And what is it? She said: I saw, as if, a piece of your body was severed and was put in my lap! The Messenger of Allah (saww) said: You saw well - Fatima will give birth, God willing, a boy so he will be in your lap. Then Fatima gave birth to al-Hussein and he was in my lap - just as the Messenger of Allah (saww) said. So I entered one day on the Messenger of Allah (saww) and put him in his lap, but I noticed that the eyes of the Messenger of Allah (saww) pouring tears! So I said: Oh! Prophet of Allah, my parents are your ransom, what is with you? He said: Gabriel came to me and informed me that my nation (ummah) will kill this son of mine.â€
Al-Mustadrak al-Sahih, al-Hafidh al-Hakim al-Nisapouri, Volume 3, Page 176
Dalael al-Nubouwa, al-Hafidh al-Bayhaqi under the subject of al-Hussain
Cf. Ibn al-A'tham 4, (Hyderabad, 1971), Page 211-212
Umm Salama said: "al-Hussain entered on the Prophet (saww), while I was sitting at the door, so I saw in the hand of the Prophet (saww) something he turned over while (Hussain) sleeping on his stomach. I said: Oh messenger of Allah, I looked and saw you turning something over in your hand when the kid was sleeping on your stomach and your tears were pouring? He said: Gabriel came to me with the sand upon which he (Hussain) will be killed. And he informed me that my nation (ummah) will kill him."
Al-Musannaf, al-Hafidh abu Bakr bin abi Shaibah, Volume 12
Al-Musnad, Ahmad bin Hanbal, Volume 2, Page 60-61
Al-Taba'qat al-Kubra, Ibn Saad
Al-Moejam al-Kabeer, al-Hafidh al-Tabarani (on subject of al-Hussain)
A'lam al-Nubuwwah, al-Mawardi al-Shafi
Kanz al-Ummal, al-Muttaqi al-Hindi
Ahmed and Ibn al-Dhahhak narrated from Ali: “I entered on the prophet (saww) and his eyes were flooded, I said: Oh! Prophet of Allah, anyone made you angry? Why are your eyes flooded? He said: Gabriel just left me telling me that al-Hussain will be killed by the river Euphrates. He (the Prophet) said: So he (Gabriel) said: Do you want me to let you smell his dirt (from his burial pot)? I said: Yes! He reached with his hand and grabbed a handful of dirt and gave it to me. So I could not help it and my eyes were flooded.â€
Thakhaer al-Uqba, Muhibbuldeen al-Tabari, Page 148
Ibn Saad, Ali bin Muhammad, Yahya bin Zakariya, a man heard it from 'Amir al-Sha'bi say: “When Ali passed by Karbala in his march to Siffien and lined up with Nainawa - a village on the Euphrates - he stopped and called one of them men: Tell aba 'Abdullah (al-Hussain) what this land is called? He said: Karbala. Then he cried until the earth was wet from his tears. He then said: I entered on the messenger of Allah (saww) and he was crying. So I said: What makes you cry? He said: Gabriel was with me, just now, and informed me: that my son al-Hussain will be killed at the banks of Furat in a location called Karbala. Then Gabriel grabbed a handful of dirt and let me smell it. So I could not help it, my eyes overflowed.â€
Al-Tabaqat al-Kubra, Ibn Saad
Al-Musannaf, Ibn Abi Shaibeh, Volume 12
Al-Moejam al-Kabeer, al-Tabarani, Volume 1
Tareekh al-Shamm, Ibn 'Asakir
*Here we see that Muhammad (saww) was the first one to mourn Hussein (as), he was the one who started the majlis where people would cry for Hussein (as), the Shia didn't innovate this practice, it was the Sunnah of Muhammad (saww). We also find here the reason why out of all the materials of earth to prostrate on, Shias choose the "dirt" of Karbala over leafs, pebbles and sand which is permissible to prostrate on and the woven cloth which is not permissible to prostrate on as Muhammad (saww) only prostrated on earth and the "dirt" of Karbala was dearest to Muhammad (saww) out of all the dirt, i.e. the best part of earth to prostrate on is the earth of Karbala.
Now to the practices of mourning by the Shia during Ashura (10th Muharram), we will jump in to the most controversial practice in the eyes of the non-Shias; tatbir (bloodletting) which was first practiced by lady Zaynab (as). This is when one makes a cut just over his forehead and lets their blood spill. First reaction people say this is self-inflicting harm, to an extent this is true as a very small minority do die and do get disabilities from this, a very small minority. To respond to this, when people go to Hajj does not a very small minority die? Does not a very small minority become disabled? The answer is yes this in fact happens but Muslims will never abandon Hajj now as it’s a religious practice, the same case applies here, for the Shia, tatbir is a religious practice so it will never be abandoned.
Now people can still say no, cutting oneself is haram as it causes self-harm, in fact the prophet (saww) would do cupping so it’s not injuring oneself. Cupping is the releasing of blood from the forehead, the same place where blood is released during tatbir. Cupping is used to remove 'dirty' blood, blood that the body does not want which collects in the head:
Narrated 'Abdullah bin Buhaina: Allah's Apostle was cupped on the middle of his head at Lahl Jamal on his way to Mecca while he was in a state of Ihram. Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: Allah's Apostle was cupped on his head.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 601
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 595
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 598-600
Narrated Ibn 'Abbas: The Prophet was cupped while he was fasting.
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 597
*We see here that the prophet (saww) even did cupping while fasting and while in the state of Ihram, this shows that tatbir is a pure act, not a hated act but a highly recommended act, the prophet's favorite medicine was cupping. Let’s now see examples of self-beating to show distress by the prophets (as):
Hadhrath Adam (as) was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen.
Ma'arij al Nubuwwa, Chapter 1, Page 248
"When life was breathed into the spirit of Adam (as) he hit his hand on his head and cried. He made this tradition of beating one's head with one's hand and crying in times of trouble for his descendants."
Mudharij al Nubuwwa, Page 221
"On one occasion Gabriel approached Prophet Yusuf (as) in Zundh and conveyed the news that his father had become blind on account of his weeping for him. Yusuf (as) hit his hand on his head and said 'O I wish my mother did not give birth to me, so that I would have not become the cause of such sadness to my father'".
Tafseer Kabeer, Volume 5, Page 158
*Now we will see this act being done by the noblest of prophets (saww):
"Rasulullah (saww) was in a state where he was hitting his chest."
Sahih al Bukhari, Volume 2, Page 50
Sunan al Nasa’i, Volume 3, Page 305
Adhan al Mufreed, Page 426
Sahih Muslim, Volume 1, Page 291
Musnad Abu Awana, Volume 2, Page 292
Ibn Hajr Asqalani in the commentary of this tradition in Fathul Bari, Volume 3, Page 90 writes: "This Hadith demonstrates that it is permissible to bang your hand at a moment of distress".
Narrated 'Ali bin Abi Talib: That Allah's Apostle came to him and Fatima the daughter of Allah's Apostle at their house at night and said, "Won't you pray?" 'Ali replied, "O Allah's Apostle! Our souls are in the Hands of Allah and when he wants us to get up, He makes us get up." When 'Ali said that to him, Allah's Apostle left without saying anything to him. While the Prophet was leaving, 'Ali heard him striking his thigh (with his hand) and saying, "But man is quarrelsome more than anything else.†(18.54)
Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 446
*Now let’s see the companions of Muhammad (saww) do the same:
When Ayesha was defeated and Ali (as) saw the corpses on the ground he began to beat his thighs.
Tauhfa Ithna Ashari, Page 523
"When the situation of the Prophet worsened, Bilal emerged beating his head and loudly wailing, 'I wish my mother had not given birth to me, and that if she had I wish that I had died before this day'"
Mudharij al Nubuwwa, Volume 2, Page 441
*Now let’s see the wives of the prophet (saww) do the same:
I heard Ayesha saying "The Messenger of Allah died on my bosom during my turn, I did not wrong anyone in regard to him. It was because of my ignorance and youthfulness that the Messenger of Allah died while he was in my lap. Then I laid his head on a pillow and got up beating my chest and slapping my face along with the women".
Al Tabari in History Volume 9 page 183
Bidayah wa al Nihayah, Volume 5, page 420
*Do you dare insult this act knowing your dear mother slapped her face, you know that part in the video you show someone beating his face from despair, either remove it or insult your mother. Let’s now see the daughter of the prophet (saww) do the same:
Sheikh Abdul Haq Mohaddis Hanafi Dehlavi recorded that: "Fatima Zahra (as) hearing the rumor of the martyrdom of the Holy Prophet (s) at Uhud came out of her house running and beating her head".
Mudharij al Nubuwwa, Volume 2, Page 163
*Let’s see an example of self-beating in the Quran where Sara (as) struck her face when she was told that she would conceive a baby:
And his wife approached with a cry [of alarm] and struck her face and said, "[I am] a barren old woman!"
Quran 51:29
*Now let’s see the prophet (saww) approval of such acts:
Yahya related to me from Malik from Ata ibn Abdullah al-Khurasani that Said ibn al-Musayyab said, "A Bedouin came to the Messenger of Allah (saww) beating his breast and tearing out his hair and saying, 'I am destroyed.' The Messenger of Allah (saww) said, 'Why is that?', and he said, 'I had intercourse with my wife while fasting in Ramadan.' The Messenger of Allah (saww) asked him, 'Are you able to free a slave?', and the man said, 'No.' Then he asked him, 'Are you able to give away a camel?', and the man replied, 'No.' He said, 'Sit down,' and someone brought a large basket of dates to the Messenger of Allah (saww) and he said to the man, 'Take this and give it away as Sadaqa.' The man said, 'There is no one more needy than me,' and (the Messenger of Allah (saww)), said, 'Eat them, and fast one day for the day when you had intercourse.'"
Malik's Muwatta, Book 18, Chapter 9, Number 29
*The action of the Bedouin was a result of spiritual pain he suffered as his fast was invalidated. He was beating his chest and tearing his hair in presence of Holy Prophet (saww) who didn’t object to his actions which shows he approved of his actions. The most explicit proof of self-inflicted injury comes from Owais al-Qarni (ra) the great Muslim Sahaba, praised by both Shia and Sunni erudite. He had an immense love for the holy prophet (saww):
When the news reached Owais al-Qarni (ra) in Yemen that two teeth of the prophet (saww) were broken in the battle of Uhud, he extracted all his teeth. When the prophet (saww) got the news in Medina that Owais had struck down all his teeth, he exclaimed, "Indeed Owais is our devoted friend".
Seerate Halbia, Volume 2, Page 295
"Owais al-Qarni (ra) said to Umar Khattab (ra): 'If you were true in friendship than why on the day when the holy teeth of the Prophet (saww) were broken didn't you break your teeth in companionship? Because, it is a condition of companionship.' Then he showed his teeth all of which were broken and said 'I broke all of my teeth without seeing you (O Prophet) and in the state of Ghabah in your companionship. I had broken one tooth but couldn't get satisfaction so kept on breaking them one by one until I had broken them all '".
Tadhkhirathul Awliya, by Shiekh Farid al Din Attar, Page 17-18
Had the breaking of teeth by Owais al-Qarni (ra) been in opposition to Shariah, Umar would certainly have pointed it out at the time or at least commented and answered the accusation by Owais al-Qarni (ra) of his less than perfect companionship. The silence of Umar proves that he didn't deem the act of breaking one's teeth as done by Owais al-Qarni (ra) as opposed to Shariah but considered it an act of sincerity and also a proof of friendship.
We should point out that breaking one's teeth is a thousand times more painful than the beating of one's chest for a few hours. It is more extreme than chest beating with chains or knives (Zanjeer) because those who have suffered from tooth ache will understand the immense pain that circulates in the mouth and head. Compare the removal of a tooth to the forced removal of a full set of teeth using a stone without the benefit of modern day anesthetics and instruments. The pain must have been unbearable. This was clearly an act of great courage.
This shows that mourning the death of Hussein (as) is Sunnah and taking part in mourning practices that helps one to remember the pain of Imam Hussein (as) is Sunnah. After reading this a previously ignorant non-Shia should never criticise this act that Shias perform, of course the blame of this is down to the scholars and leaders of the Muslims who hide this knowledge from the people they are supposed to lead to heaven, the people they are rather deviating. The fact is there are even Shias and Shia leaders who oppose this out of shame in front of non-Shias and their fear to take part of such acts and only prefer to beat their chest lightly. I say non-Shia as this is also for Christians who oppose this practice:
"Howl, Heshbon, for Ai is despoiled. Cry aloud you villages round Rabbath Ammon, put on sack cloth and beat your breast and score your body with gashes"
Jeremiah 49:3
*Other examples include Isaiah 22:12, Isaiah 32:11, Luke 23:48, Ezekiel 27:31, Jeremiah 7:29 and more.
Now concerning wives of the prophet (saww), why did Lut (as) and Nuh (as) marry their wives?
Ali (as) did not marry his daughter to the person who killed her mother, what logic is this. You Sunnis love to jump on this without using your logic, I can prove this in detail by many ways and let me know if you wan't me too, but use your logic for now.
This is enough for now, but since you bought up Abu Bakr, I will give you a snippit of my document about Abu Bakr just using the Quran:
If you do not aid the Prophet - Allah has already aided him when those who disbelieved had driven him out [of Makkah] as one of two, when they were in the cave and he said to his companion, "Do not grieve; indeed Allah is with us." And Allah sent down His peace upon him and supported him with angels you did not see and made the word of those who disbelieved the lowest, while the word of Allah - that is the highest. And Allah is Exalted in Might and Wise.
Quran 9:40
*First we can see who has greater trust in Allah (SWT) and his messenger (saww), Abu Bakr would “grieve†while with the prophet (saww) and Ali (as) would sleep in his bed waiting for his killers. Also notice what Allah (SWT) did? He sent down His peace upon "him" not upon them. The Arabic word used is singular. Why did Allah (SWT) not send down peace upon the second of the two, Abu Bakr? Let us see who Allah (SWT) sends his peace to:
Then Allah sent down His peace upon His Messenger and upon the believers and sent down soldiers angels whom you did not see and punished those who disbelieved. And that is the recompense of the disbelievers.
Quran 9:26
When those who disbelieved had put into their hearts chauvinism - the chauvinism of the time of ignorance. But Allah sent down His peace upon His Messenger and upon the believers and imposed upon them the word of righteousness, and they were more deserving of it and worthy of it. And ever is Allah , of all things, Knowing.
Quran 48:26
I expect you to refute each Hadith in your book and each verse in the Quran and please have a go in refuting the videos, refute how your great leader Adnan Aroor lied about the history of the prophet (saww). I would like to for next time justify Shia acts like the way we do wudu, the way we pray and so on. However, if you would like me to go straight into Abu Bakr, Umar, Uthman and Aisha bashing or showing who are the Ahlul-Bayt (as), please let me know, you will be like a Christian or a Jew, all surprised in what's in their own books, the Bible and the Talmud. Trust me on this, the second you read it you will know your scholars are liars and deniers of the truth.
I do request you to ask Allah (SWT) for guidance to the truth and just pretend if you have to, that you don't belong to the sect of the 73 that's on the right path as you and I both know now Shia Islam is the fastest growing sect within Islam as its truth.
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