NWO cleanse, take your time, take a deep breath, get comfortable and write a summary...it would be easier for brother Albarra and the others to discuss your points...
I'll do it for him, akhi. Here is the video and here are the points:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inJ1mCIsz5A&t=53s
1- Mecca called
"the mother of all cities" refers to it being the center of all trading routes. This is false because Petra was the center of the trading routes.
RESPONSE: Your author, NWO Cleanse, - Sam Gerrans, - imposed this meaning on the Quranic term to the Holy City of Mecca.
2- Mecca was not found on any map until around year 900 AD, 300 years after Prophet Muhammad came.
RESPONSE: No proof. Yet, we have ample physical proofs that Mecca existed far earlier than this. See above.
3- Mecca does not have any substantial valley or mountain surrounding it,
"which is part of the Quranic concept of a holy site"??RESPONSE: Where did your Sam Gerrans come up with this lie?? The Glorious Quran does not give this criteria or condition for any holy site! Also, Mecca does have surrounding mountains, - MOUNT ARAFAT is used in the pilgrimage, - and it does have the underground stream of Zamzam, which fills the Well of Zamzam and it sustains life there.
Then he goes on to say that Petra has deep routes and that supposedly matches the Glorious Quran's
"deep routes" statement about Muslims coming from all over the world to do Hajj (pilgrimage). And he talked about the doomed civilizations that were mentioned in the Glorious Quran were all located in Northern Arabia.
RESPONSE: The Arabs in central Arabia were fresh and had no corrupt scriptures like the Jews and Christians were. They were ready for a new Prophet and new Scripture, and this is one of the reasons why Allah Almighty chose them:
34:44 ومااتيناهم من كتب يدرسونها وماارسلنا اليهم قبلك من نذير
[034:044] Although, prior to you We did not give them books they could study كتب يدرسونها, nor did We send a warner towards them وماارسلنا اليهم قبلك من نذير.This would not apply to the northern Arabs around Petra, because they were under the Christians' rule at the time. The central Arabs were nomadic people and had no scriptures and no Prophets.
Silencing Mr. Sam Gerrans:
I finished the video and it has ample problems. All wishful thinking, conjecture and bias towards Petra. Again, there are points that you just can't refute:
1- Muslims by the MILLIONS flock to pilgrimage to Mecca, not to Petra. If Muslims were flocking to Petra by the THOUSANDS and THOUSANDS during the early days of Islam, then they would not be flocking today to Mecca. And we would certainly have a
record for it (Petra), which we do not.
2- The graves of Prophet Muhammad and many of his companions are in Medina and Mecca and near by lands. Yes, some are in Northern Arabia due to the battles with the Romans and Persians, and many ended up settling there.
But the Prophet's grave is in Medina! Can you refute that?
3- The four Islamic Rightly Guided Caliphs, Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman and Ali ruled in Medina. Ali later migrated to Iraq, but he was elected in Medina and began his rule in Medina. Uthman was killed in Medina. Omar was assassinated by the Persians in Medina. Abu Bakr fought the apostates from Medina. Ali migrated to Iraq from Medina.
The Muslims liberated Mecca with 10,000 Muslims army. And it's even prophesied in the Bible:
www.answering-christianity.com/10000.htmNothing mentioned about Petra.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
