Assalamualaikum guys,
I really need some help right now can you guys please help, there's a hadith which is generally believed to be fabricated but a shia tried to to prove it is authentic, i have absolutely no idea how to answer him...here's his argument...
Assalamualaikum,
This hadith is generally thought as fabricated but a shia tried to prove it is authentic...can you please verify this? Can you please do it as soon as possible? I'm gonna quote it for you,
"The Holy Prophet (pbuh) said: O Ali, you and your Shi'a will be in Paradise Many Sunnis are confused by the hadith, since they are not from the Shi'a of Imam Ali (as). So, many of them have declared the hadith weak. However, it is either ignorance or dishonesty. This is because the hadith is not just sahih, it is mutawatir! Inshallah, I will set out now to prove that. First, what is a mutawatir hadith? Well, any hadith narrated through a minimum of 9 or 10 Companions is accepted as mutawatir, and thus absolutely authentic. Imam Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani has some more words: For a mutawatir hadith, the reliability or justice of the narrators is irrelevant. Its authenticity only depends on the multiplicity of narrators, to a number that clearly removes the possibililty of any collusion to lie. Al-Isabah, Vol. 2, p. 252 Imam al-Haskani in his Shawahid Tanzil, Vol. 2, p. 461, has recorded the hadith through a chain from Ibn Abbas. Al-Khawarizmi too in his al-Manaqib, p. 323, has recorded it from another chain from Sa'eed ibn Jubayr from Ibn Abbas. Al-Khawarizmi again has recorded it through another chain from Anas ibn Malik in his Manaqib, p. 319. Ibn Maghazili too has narrated from him through a chain in his Manaqib Amir al-Mumineen, pp. 183-184. Ibn Maghazili al-Shafi'i, in his Manaqib Amir al-Mumineen, pp. 157-158, cites a chain leading up to Jabir ibn Abdullah al-Ansar. Imam al-Tabarani, in his Mu'jam al-Awsat, Vol. 7, p. 343, has narrated it through another chain from Abu Hurayrah. Al-Khawarizmi again has narrated it through a chain from Imam Husayn (as) in his al-Manaqib, p. 317. Al-Haskani, through a chain, has recorded it from Abu Barzah al-Aslami in his Shawahid Tanzil, Vol. 2, p. 463. Imam al-Hakim in his al-Mustadrak, Vol. 3, pp. 174-175 has narrated from Mayna ibn Abi Mayna through a chain. Ibn Asakir in his Tarikh, Vol. 42, p. 333 has narrated it, through a chain, from Umm Salamah. Al-Haythami too, in his Majma al-Zawaid, Vol. 10, p. 21 (Egypt) has narrated it through another chain from her. Al-Hafiz Jamaluddin al-Zarnadi, in his Nasm Duroor al-Simtayn, p. 24, has narrated it, through a chain, from Ibrahim ibn Shaybah al-Ansari. Al-Khatib al-Baghdadi, in his Muwazzih Awham al-Jami' wa al-Tafriq, Vol. 1, p. 43, records it, through a chain, from Bibi Fatimah al-Zahra (as). A huge number of Sunni scholars have narrated it through several chains from Imam Ali (as). Among them are Ibn Asakir in his Tarikh, Vol. 42, p. 332, al-Dawlabi in his al-Dhurriyat al-Tahirat, p. 121, al-Khatib al-Baghdadi in his Tarikh, Vol. 12, p. 284 and others. The hadith has been narrated from ELEVEN Companions. It is therefore absolutely authentic and must be accepted as proof, being a mutawatir tradition. Imam Ibn Hajar records in his 'Nuzhat al-Nadhar' page 10: "Verily one must work with the mutawatir hadith without checking its narrators" Sunni scholar and a teacher of university of Makka Allamah Ahmad bin Umar bin Salim records in Al-Muqtareb fi Bayan al-Mutareb, page 10: "The tawattur do not require checking of narrators, verily one must work with it without checking because it is acceptable" Present day Salafi scholar and one of the students of Shaykh Bin Baz namely Abdulkarim al-Khudhair (born in 1374 H) records in Tahqiq al-Raghba fi Tawdih al-Nukhba, page 44: The mutawatir: Traditions that should be believed because they are absolutely true, there is hence no need to check through its narrators We read the aspect of a mutawatir tradition in Tadrib al-Rawi by Imam Jalaluddin Suyuti, Volume 2 page 173: "Hence one must work with it without checking the narrators." Allahuma salli 'ala Muhammadin wa ahlihi wa shi'atihim ajma'een."
I'm in a tough spot right now...
