Suicide bombing

[muslimforever2012]

Assalamu alaikum.

This was the reason I registered here, but I was busy with Sina. Anyways, in this article (http://www.answering-christianity.com/suicide_bombing.htm) suicide bombing is praised. But I have a question. Doesn't committing suicide violate the Quran and sunnah?

"And do not kill yourselves, surely God is most Merciful to you."

— Qur'an, Sura 4 (An-Nisa), ayat 29

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "He who commits suicide by throttling shall keep on throttling himself in the Hell Fire (forever) and he who commits suicide by stabbing himself shall keep on stabbing himself in the Hell-Fire."


— Sahih al-Bukhari, 2:23:446

Thanks.

[AMuslimDude213]

 that suicide bomber will keep blowing up in hell now.

[QuranSearchCom]

Wa Alaikum As'salam

There are stories of Sahabas (Companions) who drove themselves to death during battle to gain Martyrdom.  The "Suicide Bombers" are not people who commit suicide.  They are Martyrs.

Both sides have their arguments.  But a Martyr, who drove himself or herself to death knowing that they will certainly die, is not one who committed suicide.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Dr Tazeen]

This type of bombing could be controversial, but there should be NO controversies over these points:

1.Killing any Muslim without Haq (zina or qisas) is kufr, so NO Muslim should be killed.

2.Killing innocent children ,killing women and elderly is also forbidden.

3.There is no need to kill those who are NOT fighting us.

What I think is more appropriate, is wherever you are sure enough, use remote control objects or even birds like hen or other animals etc to do so as in Palestine, rather than going for martyrdom with a very few of the enemies blown away.

Why not die after creating a greater loss of the enemies?I really want that every Palestinian Muslim should go for martyrdom after killing at least 1000s of israeliees.

AND yes, suicide bombing could be discussed for countries such as Palestine, but never for countries as in south east Asia, where people blow other Muslims just because they belong to different schools of thought.THIS IS HARAAAAM

[Dr Tazeen]

This discussion should maintain controversy, so that people going for such measures could invent other simpler methods for more EFFICIENT ways of destroying the "Non believing " "attacking" enemy.

Again, we should keep in mind that blowing anyone who says that he is a Muslim, is NOT Islam. Even for disbelievers, we have to be careful.

I am mentioning it over and over, just because I have seen people who think killing anybody whom they assume to be  kafir,is totally okay, which I surely condemn.

[Albarra]

Wa Alaikum As'salam

There are stories of Sahabas (Companions) who drove themselves to death during battle to gain Martyrdom.  The "Suicide Bombers" are not people who commit suicide.  They are Martyrs.

Can you please show me how the companions commited suicide during the wars?

Jazakallah Khair

[AhmadFarooq]

I really want that every Palestinian Muslim should go for martyrdom after killing at least 1000s of israeliees.

Maybe you want to rephrase or, better yet, change that sentence?

[Dr Tazeen]

What do you mean bro?

[AhmadFarooq]

Your comment is giving the impression that Palestinian Muslims should cause as much Israeli bloodshed as possible, whether they are innocent or not.

If a Christian were to say "I really want that every American Christian should kill at least 1000s of Iraqis", what would your impressions be? Does the first thought that naturally comes to your mind is that he is talking about killing Daesh members or ordinary Muslims?

[Dr Tazeen]

1.Killing any Muslim without Haq (zina or qisas) is kufr, so NO Muslim should be killed.

2.Killing innocent children ,killing women and elderly is also forbidden.

3.There is no need to kill those who are NOT fighting us.

[AhmadFarooq]

I believe that non-nuanced, absolute statements like these make it incredibly easy to instigate public opinion against Muslims.

For years the Iranian political and religious leadership continued to make statements like "America is evil" and that "they will destroy Israel". Such a scenario allowed Israeli governments and their American supporters to have a quick and easy escape for any and all criticisms of the Israeli state. Whenever some Muslims were to criticise the Israeli government they just started shouting how Muslims want to annihilate the Israelis whether they be civilian or not and how Muslims can never accept Jews in their countries and so on and so forth.

When Western lay persons are told that a Muslim said: "I really want that every Palestinian Muslim should go for martyrdom after killing at least 1000s of israeliees", they are not going to naturally assume that the statement comes under some rules and regulations. They are going to naturally assume that literally all Israelis are the target (including Christians). When such an understanding reaches a westerner, why should he/she ever support the Palestinian cause?

Just a small quantity of nuance and care can make it extremely difficult for the blind supporters of Israel to use these statements against Muslims themselves. I believe being more careful of how Muslims phrase their sentences can create a significant positive change.

[Dr Tazeen]

Actually you are right brother... Jazakullah khair

[muslimforever2012]

OK, I'm still a bit confused. The Quran says:

And no person can ever die except by Allah's Leave and at an appointed term. And whoever desires a reward in (this) world, We shall give him of it; and whoever desires a reward in the Hereafter, We shall give him thereof. And We shall reward the grateful.
(3:145).

How can you Allah's leave by doing suicide bombing?

[QuranSearchCom]

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sister,

Brother Muslimforever2012, the Noble Verse has nothing to do with what the infidels call "suicide bombing".  Allah Almighty's "System" (for lack of better terms) in His Realm and how He runs the Universe and all creations is infinitely beyond us in mystery. 

In a capsule or a nutshell, basically whatever you decide to do with your life, and whatever decisions you take and actions you commit, - even though they were by your own free will, - they are still by Allah Almighty's Will AND CONTROL 100%.

The way I personally understand it is as follows:

1-  Osama Abdallah was born a male, Palestinian, has a university degree, has a certain job, looks a certain way, etc...

2-  Osama Abdallah lives on a planet and in a life where his FUTURE POSSIBLE ACTIONS are all laid out clearly before Allah Almighty.

What does FUTURE POSSIBLE ACTIONS mean?  It means that Allah Almighty Knows exactly what Osama Abdallah would be doing today and will be doing 20 years from now if Osama became an atheist say 5 years ago.  All of the actions and decisions that I would've taken as an atheist, - which I right now obviously do not know what they would've been, - all of them are clearly known to Allah Almighty.  So in other words, while it is in Allah Almighty's Hands and Will and Knowledge and Control what each creation WILL DO and WOULD'VE DONE, but Allah Almighty still left it to us to decide which roads to take in our existence, whether here on earth or beyond.

I am very sure it is INFINITELY MORE COMPLEX than this.  But I hope this somehow helps explain it for you.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Albarra]

Yeah, but Muhammad (phub), Abu Bakr, Umar, Othman, and Ali did not commit suicide during the battles.

This topic is very controversial, but many Muslim scholars, including the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, issued a fatwa condemning suicide bombing.

Muhammad (phub) however did plan to commit suicide, but Gabriel stopped him.

You see why this topic is very controversial?


Brother Osama has his own opinion about Islam, but you choose to agree with me or him.


Jazakallah khair