Explanation of 72:9 needed!!!

[FARHAN_UDDIN]

Assalamualykum.


''And we used to sit in some of its seats to listen. But whoso listens now finds a shooting star in ambush for him,'' (72:9)


 Okay this verse says, ''....we used to sit in....''. That means jinns used to enter the lowest Heavens. But how is it possible? Because our universe from its inception is guarded with stars. I mean to say that stars were there from the inception of the universe serving as missiles by emitting different types of rays, so how jinns used enter here? Didn't they face any obstacle??  It can't happen that they started serving as missile just some 2000 or 3000 years ago. Can it?  They have been there for billions of years.Please help.

[mclinkin94]

Assalamualykum.


''And we used to sit in some of its seats to listen. But whoso listens now finds a shooting star in ambush for him,'' (72:9)


 Okay this verse says, ''....we used to sit in....''. That means jinns used to enter the lowest Heavens. But how is it possible? Because our universe from its inception is guarded with stars. I mean to say that stars were there from the inception of the universe serving as missiles by emitting different types of rays, so how jinns used enter here? Didn't they face any obstacle??  It can't happen that they started serving as missile just some 2000 or 3000 years ago. Can it?  They have been there for billions of years.Please help.

Asalamu Alaikum:

No, stars did not exist at the inception of the universe. They came into being at one point of the universe's existence.

Secondly, the context of that verse is referring to Jinns listening to the Quran from some kind of celestial mechanism (sitting on these positions), but these positions have now been covered by Allah with those flames (Stars, Quasars etc.). Stars are constantly being formed and dying. So you could argue that that position that jinns use has been foiled by the birth of a star.

[FARHAN_UDDIN]

Isn't the verse taking about Muhammad's (PBUH) time? That means  these stars were formed and have been working as missiles since 7th century which is 1400 years ago!!!!


 Allah says in the Quran :

 41:12 "So he ordained them seven heavens in two periods, and revealed in every heaven its affair; and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars and made it to guard; that is the decree of the Mighty, the knowing."


 From the above verse we can see that the stars have been guarding the Universe since their inception. Or we might say long before Muhammad (PBUH).

[mclinkin94]

Isn't the verse taking about Muhammad's (PBUH) time? That means  these stars were formed and have been working as missiles since 7th century which is 1400 years ago!!!!


 Allah says in the Quran :

 41:12 "So he ordained them seven heavens in two periods, and revealed in every heaven its affair; and We adorned the lower heaven with brilliant stars and made it to guard; that is the decree of the Mighty, the knowing."


 From the above verse we can see that the stars have been guarding the Universe since their inception. Or we might say long before Muhammad (PBUH).

No, it doesn't mean that all stars have been working at missiles since 7th century. It means that a certain position that the Jinns sat in to listen has been foiled by a star. Lets look at the verse again:

''And we used to sit in some of its seats to listen. But whoso listens now finds a shooting star in ambush for him,'' (72:9)

^It says in certain positions, they would listen, but that position has been foiled by a star.

Next, the verse you posted does not say that the stars have been guarding the universe since the beginning of the universe and neither does that verse say that new stars would not be formed.