3 Questions Why trust the islamic sources? Historical Miracle of Quran refuted?

[muzi123]

First question why trust the hadiths seerah someone can say how do you know the companions made up the miracles and attributed it to the prophet to praise him so how can we prove everything is coming from trustworthy people  and there was a miracle in Quran about Iram Answering Islam have done  a response http://www.answering-islam.org/Hoaxes/iram.html how do you respond and the 3rd q can someone show me some irrefutable historical miracles of Quran but nothing to do with Egypt like pharaohs body, etc  like a historical miracle concerning another people or civilization

[mclinkin94]

I've always had an issue with the case of the Quran having "miracles" in it.

Think about it this way. If the Quran had an irrefutable miracle in which it is 100% certainly true, then everyone would become a Muslim. If this happens then there really is no test. Allah stated that life is a test. DO you really think Allah is going to give us the answers to the test, or do you think Allah wants us to strive hard and study hard in order to pass this test?

Given this, Quranic statements must be sufficiently clear to guide someone with an open heart to Islam but at the same time, they must be sufficiently vague so that it does not guide someone with a closed heart who refuses to extensively study the Quran and find the answers.

[Dawud]

I've always had an issue with the case of the Quran having "miracles" in it.

Think about it this way. If the Quran had an irrefutable miracle in which it is 100% certainly true, then everyone would become a Muslim. If this happens then there really is no test. Allah stated that life is a test. DO you really think Allah is going to give us the answers to the test, or do you think Allah wants us to strive hard and study hard in order to pass this test?

Given this, Quranic statements must be sufficiently clear to guide someone with an open heart to Islam but at the same time, they must be sufficiently vague so that it does not guide someone with a closed heart who refuses to extensively study the Quran and find the answers.

This is clear miracle in Quran, visual miracle wich can be tested and veirfied
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog//index.php/topic,1578.0.html

these are are my arguments for that Quran is from God and not humans:

1. Scientific miracles in the Quran
2. Prophecies of future events
3. Nummerical miracles
4. Healthy properties of quranic recitation on sick people (RUQIA)
5. Linguguistic miracles in the quran

[QuranSearchCom]

I've always had an issue with the case of the Quran having "miracles" in it.

Think about it this way. If the Quran had an irrefutable miracle in which it is 100% certainly true, then everyone would become a Muslim. If this happens then there really is no test. Allah stated that life is a test. DO you really think Allah is going to give us the answers to the test, or do you think Allah wants us to strive hard and study hard in order to pass this test?

Given this, Quranic statements must be sufficiently clear to guide someone with an open heart to Islam but at the same time, they must be sufficiently vague so that it does not guide someone with a closed heart who refuses to extensively study the Quran and find the answers.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

The Miracles of the Glorious Quran are irrefutable.  They are too many to list here.  I would first start with the Numerical Miracles, because these require no dictionary and not interpretation, and no scientific theories.  They're just based on raw numbers.  An example of this is Surah Nuh (Chapter Noah) claims that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Amazingly, the entire Noble Surah is also made of exactly 950 Letters.  Not a Letter more or less.  While I wasn't the one who discovered this Miracle, but I personally scanned this Noble Chapter with my hand-written counts of all of the Letters in It, and posted the scanned images on this website.

Please visit:  www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[Dawud]

I've always had an issue with the case of the Quran having "miracles" in it.

Think about it this way. If the Quran had an irrefutable miracle in which it is 100% certainly true, then everyone would become a Muslim. If this happens then there really is no test. Allah stated that life is a test. DO you really think Allah is going to give us the answers to the test, or do you think Allah wants us to strive hard and study hard in order to pass this test?

Given this, Quranic statements must be sufficiently clear to guide someone with an open heart to Islam but at the same time, they must be sufficiently vague so that it does not guide someone with a closed heart who refuses to extensively study the Quran and find the answers.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

The Miracles of the Glorious Quran are irrefutable.  They are too many to list here.  I would first start with the Numerical Miracles, because these require no dictionary and not interpretation, and no scientific theories.  They're just based on raw numbers.  An example of this is Surah Nuh (Chapter Noah) claims that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Amazingly, the entire Noble Surah is also made of exactly 950 Letters.  Not a Letter more or less.  While I wasn't the one who discovered this Miracle, but I personally scanned this Noble Chapter with my hand-written counts of all of the Letters in It, and posted the scanned images on this website.

Please visit:  www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

what do you say about this nummerical miracle in Fatiha?
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog//index.php/topic,1578.msg6754.html#msg6754