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MISCONCEPTION DOES ISLAM PERMITS MUSLIM MEN TO RAPE PRISONERS OF WAR
 
 
 
FROM SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 3, #432:
            Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that while he was sitting with Allah's messenger we said, "Oh Allah's messenger, we got female captives as our booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?"  The prophet said, "Do you really do that?  It is better for you not to do it.  No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence."
 
(also refer to Bukhari Vol. 3, #718)
 
 
FROM SAHIH BUKHARI - VOLUME 9, #506:
            Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri that during the battle with Bani Al-Mustaliq they (Muslims) captured some females and intended to have sexual relations with them without impregnating them.  So they asked the prophet about coitus interruptus.  The prophet said, "It is better that you should not do it, for Allah has written whom He is going to create till the Day of Resurrection".
            Qaza'a said, "I heard Abu Said saying that the prophet said, "No soul is ordained to be created but Allah will create it.""
 
(also ref. Bukhari 5:459).
 FROM THE HADITH OF THE SUNAN OF ABU DAWUD, VOLUME 2, #2167:
            Muhaririz said:  "I entered the mosque and saw Abu Said al-Khudri.  I sat with him and asked about withdrawing the penis (while having intercourse), Abu Said said:  We went out with the Apostle of Allah on the expedition to Banu al-Mustaliq, and took some Arab women captive, and we desired the women, for we were suffering from the absence of our wives, and we wanted ransom; so we intended to withdraw the penis (while having intercourse with the slave-women).  But we asked ourselves:  "Can we draw the penis when the apostle of Allah is among us before asking him about it?"  So we asked him about it.  He said, "It does not matter if you do not do it, for every soul that is to be born up to the Day of Resurrection will be born.""
 NOW THESE AUTHENTIC HADITHS ARE USED BY MANY CHRISTIAN APOLOGISTS SUCH AS SAM SHEMDU DAVID WATS AND SILLY SILLAS TO PROVE THAT ISLAM CONDONES RAPE OF WAR CAPTIVES AND THEN SELLING THEM
REALLY BROTHERS AND SISTERS. I HAVE GOT REALLY IMP AND DETALILED FACTS ON THIS HADITHS
AS FOLLOWS
1) FIRST OF ALL WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE TIME LINE OF THIS HADITH THIS HADITH IS IN REGARDS TO THE BATTLE OF BANU AL MUSTALLIQ WHICH IS ONE OF THE EARLIEST BATTLE OF ISLAM
2)IN THIS PERIOD MOST OF THE LAWS REGARDING SLAVE WOMEN AND PHYSICAL INTIMACY WITH THEM SUCH AS IDDAH LAW AND WAITING FOR PREGNANT WOMEN TILL SHE GIVES BIRTH WAS NOT REVEALED  TO PROPHET MUHMMAD(SAW)
3)WHAT EVER LAW PROPHET MUHMMAD (SAW) RECIEVED WAS A REVEALATION TO HIM FROM ALLAH
4)SO AT THIS TIME MUTTAH(TEMPORARY MARRIAGES WERE NOT FORBIDDEN BY PROPHET (SAW)
5) AND THIS TEMPORARY MARRIAGES WERE ONLY FOR PURPOSE OF SPENDING SEXUAL PLEASURE. SO AUTOMATICALLY ENGAGING IN TEMPORARY SEXUAL WITH SLAVE (CAPTIVE) WAS ALSO NOT PROHIBITED.
5) WHEN PROPHET MUHMMAD (SAW) DIDN'T KNEW ALCOHOL IS BANNED HE NEVER FORBID THEM FROM DRINKING SIMILLARLY HE DIDN'T PROHIBIT THEM FROM ENGAGING IN TEMPORARY SEX.
6) WERE THE SAHABA ABOUT TO RAPE WOMEN ABSOLUTELY NO
(HERE PEOPLE MAY FIND THIS POINT REALLY ODD BUT LET ME TELL U AS I SAID MOST OF THE LAWS REGARDING PHYSICAL INTIMACY WITH CAPTIVE SLAVE WOMAN WAS NOT REVEALED SO IT WAS QUITE NATURAL FOR SAHABA TO WANT TO HAVE SEX DUE TO LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ON THEIRS SITE AS IT WAS NOT REVEALED AND RELY ON THEIR JAHILI SYSTEM)
 BECAUSE THE CAPTIVES WERE LEGALLY DISTRIBUTED BY PROPHET.
7)THEN WHAT ABOUT THE PART OF SELLING AND CONSEUS OF SLAVE GIRL?
THE MOST IMP POINT(PERSONAL OPINION)
REGARDING SELLING THEM;
IF U WILL READ THE CONTEXT THEY WANTED TO ENGAGE IN TEMPORARY SEX BEFORE THEIR RANSOM(NOT SELLING)
NOW DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SELLING AND RANSOMING; SELLING IS NORMAL SELLING
RANSOMIING IS SOMEONE COMING TO PAY THEIR MONEY AND FREE THEM
GOSH!!!! HOW THE WOMEN WILL AGREE WITH IT THAT
CONTINUE...
NOW THE REAL STORY COMES NO ONE HAS TO WORRY REGARDING THE WOMEN AGREEING FOR SEX OR NOT
BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED AT THE BATTLE OF BANU MUSTALLIQ IS THIS
!) IF SOMEONE IS TO READ THE CONTEXT OF THE HADITH THEY WILL REALIZE THAT THE SAHABA INTENDED TO ENGAGE IN SEX TEMPORARILY(OR FOR THE SAKE OF AGRGUEMENT OF ISLAMOPHOBE MIND IT THEIR SAKE NOT MINE CONSIDER RAPE) THEY ACTUALLY NEVER DID AND WHAT HAPPENED WAS THIS
Who was Banu Al-Mustaliq? When Did the Battle Take Place? What Were the Causes Behind It?

 
1-    Banu Al-Mustaliq were a sub-tribe of Khuzaa‘ah and Al-Mustaliq was their forefather. He was Juthaymah bin Sa‘d bin ‘Amr bin Rabee‘ah bin Haarithah bin ‘Amr bin ‘Aamir bin Maa’is-Samaa’.
 
2-     The Date of the Battle
 
Scholars differ regarding the date of the Battle. Their views may be summed up as follows: Ibn Is’haaq, Khaleefah bin Khayyaat and Ibn Jareer At-Tabari  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  them said that it took place during the month of Sha‘baan in the 6th year AH. Others, such as Al-Mas‘oodi  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  him said that it took place during the month of Sha‘baan in the 4th year AH. A third group of the scholars are of the view that it took place during the month of Sha‘baan in the 5th year A.H. Of the earlier scholars who adopted the third view are: Moosa bin ‘Uqbah, Ibn Sa‘d, Ibn Qutaybah, Al-Balaathuri, Ath-Thahabi, Ibn Al-Qayyim, Ibn Hajar Al-‘Asqalaani and Ibn Katheer  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  them. Of the modern scholars who adopted this view are: Al-Khudhari Bik and Al-Ghazaali  may  Allah  have  mercy  upon  them and Al-Booti, may Allah preserve him.
 
Sa‘d bin Mu‘aath, may Allah be pleased with him, died following the Battle of Banu Quraythah, which took place during the month of Thul-Qa‘dah in the 5th year A.H., according to the most preponderant view. This means that the Battle of Banu Al-Mustaliq took place before it.
 
3-    The reasons behind the Ghazwah of Banu Al-Mustaliq
 
The following are the most important reasons behind this Battle
 
A- The tribe of Banu Al-Mustaliq supported Quraysh and joined it during the Battle of Uhud against the Muslims. It was among the block of Ahaabeesh tribes who participated in the battle supporting Quraysh.
 
B-   The tribe of Banu Al-Mustaliq governed the main road leading to Makkah. It was a strong barrier that prevented the Muslims from reaching Makkah.
 
C-   News came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) that Banu Al-Mustaliq were mobilizing an army to fight him under the leadership of Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar. Having heard about that, the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) set out and met them in one of their watering areas called Al-Muraysee‘ in the direction from Qadeed to the sea coast. The Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) made them taste a bitter defeat there.
 
4-    Events of the Battle of Banu Al-Mustaliq
 
Having learnt about the notorious mobilization of Banu Al-Mustaliq, the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) dispatched Buraydhah bin Al-Husayb Al-Aslami, may Allah be pleased with him, to verify the reports, and he told Banu Al-Mustaliq that he wanted to support them. He stayed with them until he verified their intention, then returned and told the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and informed him about that.
 
On a Monday two nights of the month of Sha‘baan, in the 5th year AH., the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) left Madeenah along with 700 fighters and thirty horses and moved towards Banu Al-Mustaliq. Banu Al-Mustaliq had been informed about Islam and invited to embrace it. They had also joined the polytheists in the Battle of Uhud. They were mobilizing allies to fight the Muslims. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) attacked them while they were heedless and their cattle were watering. He killed their fighters and captured their children. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives. [Al-Bukhari and Muslim]
 
The Marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, May Allah Be Pleased with Her
 
The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives and she was a blessing for her people. Let us know about her story from ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. It was narrated that she said, “When the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq, Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith belonged to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas or one of his cousins. She held a manumission contract with him. She was a beautiful and attractive woman. Anyone who saw her admired her. She came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) in order to help her in paying her manumission.”
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, continued
 
By Allah, as soon as I saw her at the door of my room, I hated her. I knew that the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) would admire her. She entered to see the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and said “O Messenger of Allah, I am Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, the chief of his people. I have been afflicted with an adversity that you know [i.e. that she had become a slave woman after she was a free woman and the first lady of her people]. I belong to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas, or a cousin of his, and I hold a manumission contract with him. Here I am seeking your help for the manumission.” The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) said: “Would you want what is better than this?” She said, “What is that, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied: “I shall pay your manumission and marry you.” She agreed, and then the news spread among people.
 
Thereupon, the Muslims released all Banu Al-Mustaliq’s captives as they had become relatives through the marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ).
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “The marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the cause of the setting free of one hundred families of the Banu Al-Mustaliq. I do not know of a woman who was greater in blessing to her people than she was. Following the incident, Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, Juwayriyah’s father, came to Madeenah with the ransom of his daughter. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) invited him to embrace Islam, and he did.”
 
The Battle of Al-Muraysee‘ is considered one of the unique and blessed Battles in Islam. Following that Battle, a whole tribe embraced Islam. The reason behind their conversion to Islam was that the Companions, may Allah be pleased with him, freed and returned the captives that were their shares of the booties. They hated to enslave the relatives of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ). Due to that communal emancipation and unique generosity, the whole tribe embraced Islam.
 
The far reaching cause of this historical event was the love that the Companions, may Allah be pleased with them, had for the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) honoring him and exalting his great personality. As such, love of the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) gives these fine fruits and produces such unique incidents in history.
 
There were far reaching aims behind the marriage of the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, and these aims were achieved when her people embraced Islam. The conversion of her people to Islam was one of the goals behind that marriage. In this way the number of Muslims increased, and Islam became more exalted; thus the hopes behind that marriage were achieved. Allah The Exalted facilitated the marriage, blessed it and realized the goal behind it, as Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, as well as her father embraced Islam, and then the whole tribe embraced Islam as well. This marriage resulted in blessing and power for Muslims as well as the material and moral support altogether for Islam and the Muslims.
THIS CLEARLY SHOWS THAT ALL THE CAPTIVES WERE REALEASED NONE OF THE WOMEN WERE INTIMATED AND SOLD OR RANSOMED U SAY AND ALL OF THEM EMBRACEED ISLAM
WHAT FOOLS THEY WERE NO accepted islam after battle(according to islamophobes)
THE FOOLS SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT WHAT RUBBISH HELL THEY ARE DOING
the promise of allah came true
70. “O Prophet! Say to the captives in your hands: ‘If Allah knows any good in your hearts, He will give you better than what has been taken away from you, and He will forgive you; and Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.”
later on Allah kept on revealing laws regarding treatment of captives and finally revealed the law of iddah for captive
apart from this read this hadith
 
The Marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, May Allah Be Pleased with Her
 
The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq. Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith, may Allah be pleased with her, was among the captives and she was a blessing for her people. Let us know about her story from ‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with her. It was narrated that she said, “When the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) distributed the captive women of Banu Al-Mustaliq, Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith belonged to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas or one of his cousins. She held a manumission contract with him. She was a beautiful and attractive woman. Anyone who saw her admired her. She came to the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) in order to help her in paying her manumission.”
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, continued
 
By Allah, as soon as I saw her at the door of my room, I hated her. I knew that the Prophet  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) would admire her. She entered to see the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) and said “O Messenger of Allah, I am Juwayriyah bint Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, the chief of his people. I have been afflicted with an adversity that you know [i.e. that she had become a slave woman after she was a free woman and the first lady of her people]. I belong to the share of Thaabit bin Qays bin Shammaas, or a cousin of his, and I hold a manumission contract with him. Here I am seeking your help for the manumission.” The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) said: “Would you want what is better than this?” She said, “What is that, O Messenger of Allah?” He replied: “I shall pay your manumission and marry you.” She agreed, and then the news spread among people.
 
Thereupon, the Muslims released all Banu Al-Mustaliq’s captives as they had become relatives through the marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ).
 
‘Aa’ishah, may Allah be pleased with him, said, “The marriage of the Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) to Juwayriyah, may Allah be pleased with her, was the cause of the setting free of one hundred families of the Banu Al-Mustaliq. I do not know of a woman who was greater in blessing to her people than she was. Following the incident, Al-Haarith bin Abi Dhiraar, Juwayriyah’s father, came to Madeenah with the ransom of his daughter. The Messenger of Allah  sallallaahu  `alayhi  wa  sallam ( may  Allah exalt his mention ) invited him to embrace Islam, and he did.”
HERE JUWARRIYAH (RA) FREELY  WENT TO ASK FOR EMANCIPATION SO FREELY, DOES RAPISTS ALLOW That TO ASK FOR FREEDOM. AND HOW COME SHE WAS NOT RAPED. AND THE TOP CLASS RAPISTS LET THEIR SHARE GO SO EASILY. AND THE BIG FOOLS ACCEPTED  ISLAM ,
ONE MORE IMPORTANT POINT THIS IS A HIGHLY EXCEPTIONAL CASE WHERE SAHABA WANTED TO HAVE SEX AND MONEY BUT THAT TO BY GRACE OF ALLAH WHAT HAPPENED . APART FROM THIS HADITH(OF WHICH I KNOW) NO OTHER HADITH IS THERE OF WHICH I KNOW WHERE SAHABA WANTED TO HAVE TEMPORARY SEX AS WELL AS GET AWAY WITH WOMEN.
 
WATCH OUT BROTHER AND SISTERS CRITICS WILL SURELY QUOTE FROM
AL WAQIDI VOL 1 PAGE 413  WHERE IT DOES SAYS THAT ABU SAID AL KHUDRI(RA) PERFORMED AZL AND TOOK THE SLAVE GIRL TO SELL HER
WHICH IS AGAIN NOT SUPPORTED BY ANY EVIDENCE OF BEING SAHIH OR EVEN DAIF


EVEN AFTER THE CONTEXT EXPLAINED PEOPLE MAY FIND THE PHRASES IN THE CONTEXT OF  THIS HADITH SUCH AS
"WE DESIRED THE WOMEN" "WE LOVED TO DO COITUS INTERRUPTUS"
WHICH LEADS TO THE DISINTEGRATION OF SAHABA'S PICTURE IN OUR MINDS POSING THEM AS ANY OTHER HUMAN BEINGS MAKING US SAD AND UNCOMFORT BUT AS I SAID
MOST OF THE LAWS SPECIALLY IDDAH LAW WAS NOT REVEALED TO PROPHET SO IT WAS QUITE NATURAL FOR THEM TO WANT IN THAT WAY
BUT THE GENEROSITY AND HUMANNESS OF SAHABA CAN BE EASILY WITNESSED IN THE HADITH FOLLOWED WERE THEY RELEASED ALL CAPTIVES.
THEY WERE NOT RAPISTS NEITHER SEX HUNGRY
WELL I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FAMILIES WERE MADE CAPTIVES
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST!!!
CONCLUSIONS:
REASONS I COMPARED THIS SCENERIO WITH MUTAH MARRIAGE
1)THIS WAS JUST A HIGHLY EXCEPTIONAL CASE NO OTHER HADITH EVEN TALKS SELLING OF SLAVE WOMEN THAT TOO AFTER HAVING SEX WITH THEM
2)ISLAM ALLOWS SEX WITH SLAVE GIRL BUT DOSEN'T ALLOWS "USING" THE SLAVE GIRL FOR PHYSICAL PELEASURE.
THIS EXCEPTIONAL CASE RATHER SEEMS CONTRADICTORY THATS WHY I COMPARED WITH MUTAH MARRIAGE.
3) http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/09/no-rape-slave-women-islam.html
WILL CLARIFY THE DOUBTS
4)(24:32) Marry those of you that are single, (whether men or women),50 and those of your male and female slaves that are righteous.51,52 If they are poor, Allah will enrich them out of His Bounty.53 Allah is Immensely Resourceful, All-Knowing.
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(24:33) Let those who cannot afford to marry keep themselves chaste until Allah enriches them out of His Bounty.54 And write out a deed of manumission for such of your slaves that desire their freedom55 in lieu of payment56 - if you see any good in them57 - and give them out of the wealth that Allah has given you.58 And do not compel your slave-girls to prostitution for the sake of the benefits of worldly life the while they desire to remain chaste.59 And if anyone compels them to prostitution, Allah will be Most Pardoning, Much Merciful (to them) after their subjection to such compulsion.
HERE ALLAH MADE THE DOORS OF FREEDOM OPEN FOR ALL SLAVES AND SLVE GIRLS THAT THEY CAN BE MARRIED AMONG THEMSELVES AND AND WORK THEIR WAY TO ATTAIN FREEDOM.
5)ONE OF THE MOST IMP POINT THAT IDDAH LAW IS HIGHLY SIGNIFICANT IN THIS RESPECT AS IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY AVOID THESE SITUATIONS
6)MUTAH MARRIAGE WAS PROHIBITED BECAUSE IT IS CONSIDERED AS A FORM OF ADULTERY
SIMILARLY USING SLAVE WOMEN ON TEMPORARY BASIS WOULD AGAIN BE AUTOMATICALLY PROHIBITED AND AFTER REVEALATION OF ABOVE QURANIC AYAHS IT IS QUITE CLEAR THAT ISLAM PROHIBITS PROSTITUTING AND USING THE SLAVE WOMEN OF PHYSICAL PLEASURE AND WORDLY GAINS
INDEED ALLAH KNOWS BEST!!!

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