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Offline shaad

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Mystery Babylon
« on: September 11, 2017, 03:23:44 AM »
Assalamualaikum,

Have you guys ever heard of "Mystery Babylon"? I was claimed by christians in the past that it was the Vatican, NOWADAYS many Christians have brought up proofs that it is infact Mecca by using some pretty detailed biblical descriptions and i saw a 59 mins video on youtube about it...i've also read articles which talks about this subject which shows that Mystery Babylon should infact be in a desert according to the Bible and there's also lots of descriptions which according to them are "irrefutable" proofs that it is infact Mecca and we(muslims) are infact the "bad guys" to keep it short....can you guys please tell me what are your thoughts about that? I have also seen some christians using this argument at some places during debates on the internet, can someone who please tell me how to respond to their claims concerning this subject?

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2017, 05:55:27 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Shaad,

This link gives you the details about the Bible's 3 Babylons.  Everything you need to know about them is there, insha'Allah:

www.answering-christianity.com/10000.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2017, 11:03:59 AM »
Assalamualaikum brother Osama,


Hmmmmmmmm....so the "Virgin Daughter of Babylon" was infact pagan Arabia and i do get your point.I wonder where the Mystery Babylon aka The Great harlot is....i'm really worried about their arguments concerning Mystery Babylon and Mecca to be honest because many muslims may fall prey to it...Ok let us ASSUME that Mecca is indeed Mystery Babylon then it should have been filled with lots of sexual immoralities,idolatry,polytheism,ungodly activities an so on right? So where do we find all these in Mecca nowadays? I guess you already have the answer...BUT before the coming of Islam, Mecca was kinda like a much more extreme version Las Vegas right? It was pretty much a sinful society full of idolatry,polytheism,barbaric crimes such as killing daughters,lots of immoralities and the list goes on....so judging  from their arguments, it means that the "Mystery Babylon" has already been destroyed with the coming of Islam right?

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2017, 01:41:35 PM »
There are detailed articles on how New babylon is america aswell

https://escapeallthesethings.com/america-mystery-babylon-great/

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2017, 01:44:36 PM »
Mystery babylon has been refuted here too

http://faith-happens.com/the-mystery-of-mystery-babylon/

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2017, 11:23:41 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Mystery Babylon, which will rule the entire world, will be defeated by the return of Prophet Isa, peace be upon him.  That's "Jesus".  The Glorious Quran supports this by declaring that the Jews will reach "Mighty Heights" on earth in evil and blasphemies.  The doomed-to-Hell infidels can talk all of the nonsense about Islam and Mecca, but it is quite clear that the sins come from them, not from us.

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2017, 11:33:36 PM »
Thanks for the help dear brothers Osama and AMuslimDude213, the authors on the websites have some really good points....


1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great wh*re that sitteth upon many waters:

2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.

7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns…

18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.


After reading this, i am damn sure it is not Mecca...i'm pretty sure everyone must have already guessed which society fits this description...

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2017, 12:01:37 AM »
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After reading this, i am damn sure it is not Mecca...i'm pretty sure everyone must have already guessed which society fits this description...

LOL.  Dear brother, even the Jews' Bible, in the book of Daniel, says that the anti-Christ will establish his settlement from Jerusalem to the Mediterranean sea.  It even excludes Gaza and the West Bank of the Palestinians:

Daniel 11:45: "(the evil one) will establish his settlement between Mount Zion (Jerusalem) and the Mediterranean sea.  Then he will be destroyed, and no one will be able to save him."

What Mecca are the doomed-to-Hell toilet dumps, and biological excrement waste talking about??  Even their Bible SPELLS OUT that it is Israel.  For more proofs, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Re: Mystery Babylon
« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2017, 05:33:55 AM »
Hmmmmmmmm...i remember reading from a Christian website that Israel was also a contender for the Mystery Babylon Title alongside the Vatican and the USA....anyway thank you once again brother Osama for making me understand this subject and by the way those websites were really helpful dear brother AMuslimDude213 so thanks a lot for that ...

 

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