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False prophecy/sentence in the quran
« on: July 12, 2017, 03:17:26 AM »
Assalamu alaikum,

I was reading up about the event of the splitting of the moon, so i read quran 54 beginning which reads as the following: The Hour has come near, and the moon has split [in two]. And if they see a miracle, they turn away and say, "Passing magic."

And we know this verse refers to the event of moon splitting at the time of muhammad saws.

 As ibn kathir says: and the moon has been cleft asunder.) It occurred during the time of Allah's Messenger , according to the authentic Mutawatir Hadiths the scholars agree that the moon was cleft asunder during the lifetime of the Prophet, and it was among the clear miracles that Allah gave him. Hadiths mentioning that the Moon was split , Imam Ahmad recorded that Anas bin Malik said, "The people of Makkah asked the Prophet for a miracle and the moon was split into two parts in Makkah. Allah said,The Hour has drawn near, and the moon has been cleft asunder.)'' Muslim also collected this Hadith. Al-Bukhari recorded that Anas bin Malik said, "The people of Makkah asked the Messenger of Allah to produce a miracle, and he showed them the splitting of the moon into two parts, until they saw (the mount of) Hira' between them.'' This Hadith is recorded in the Two Sahihs with various chains of narration.Imam Ahmad recorded that Jubayr bin Mut`im said, "The moon was split into two pieces during the time of Allah's Prophet ; a part of the moon was over one mountain and another part over another mountain. So they said, `Muhammad has taken us by his magic.' They then said, `If he was able to take us by magic, he will not be able to do so with all people.''' Only Imam Ahmad recorded this Hadith with this chain of narration. Al-Bayhaqi used another chain of narration in a similar Hadith he collected in Ad-Dala'il.

Jalalayn says: it broke in two at Mount Abū Qubays and Qu‘ayqa‘ān as a sign for the Prophet s for it had been demanded of him and when it took place he said ‘Bear witness now!’ — as reported by the two Shaykhs al-Bukhārī and Muslim.

Also: http://www.islamicstudies.info/tafheem.php?sura=54

I can quote more but i believe these are enough. So my question is: quran 54:1 says " the hour has come close or drawn near and the moon has split" this moon splitting refers to the time of muhammad and it has been 1400 YEARS and the hour hasnt come. So 54:1 says the hour is near, but it hasnt come in 1400 YEARS. Also tanwir al miqbas min ibn abbas says: He says: the coming of the Hour drew nigh by the advent of Muhammad. So it seems to me as if the verse is saying that at the event of the moon split AT THE TIME OF MUHAMMSD 1400 YEARS AGO, the hour was close, is this not a false prophecy because it has been so pong and thenhour has not been established yet?

Jazakallah khair

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Re: False prophecy/sentence in the quran
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2017, 05:36:39 AM »
Wa alaikum assalam:


Does the Ayah refer to the fact that the moon will split before the destruction of the world ?

Ali Unal's commentary - Surah Qamar 54:1:

"Some modern commentators claim that the verse refers to the fact that the moon will split before the destruction of the world.

    However, the second verse rejects this assertion. The signs to appear before the destruction of the world will decisively prove that the Last Hour has come and this is the time when the world will be destroyed.

    But the second verse clearly says that the unbelievers reacted to the splitting of the moon by claiming that it was sorcery, and they showed the same reaction to many similar signs.

    Hasan al-Basri and 'Ata' ibn ar-Rabah, who asserted that the moon would split before the destruction of the world, did not deny the occurrence of this miracle as evidence of the Prophethood of Muhammad, in Makkah."


So, moon splitting isn't a sign of the last day- hereafter ?

It is !

Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim >  the Day of Judgement, Paradise and Hell - كتاب صفة القيامة والجنة والنار > Hadith
Abdullah said that five signs have (become things) of the past (and have proved the truth of the Holy Prophet):

(Enveloping) by the smoke, inevitable (punishment to the Meccans at Badr), (the victory of) Rome, (violent) seizing (of the Meccans at Badr) and (the splitting up of) the Moon.


حَدَّثَنَا قُتَيْبَةُ بْنُ سَعِيدٍ، حَدَّثَنَا جَرِيرٌ، عَنِ الأَعْمَشِ، عَنْ أَبِي الضُّحَى، عَنْ مَسْرُوقٍ، عَنْ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ خَمْسٌ قَدْ مَضَيْنَ الدُّخَانُ وَاللِّزَامُ وَالرُّومُ وَالْبَطْشَةُ وَالْقَمَرُ ‏.‏


The Prophet, upon whom be peace, said, whilst pointing with his index and middle fingers, "The time of my advent and the Hour are like these two fingers." In another report he said, "The Hour almost came before me."

This indicates how close we are, relatively speaking- to history of life on earth, to the Hour.

Prophet Muhammad himself is a sign of the last day !

Full: http://quranscientificerror.blogspot.com/2013/06/re-moon-split-in-two-quran-error-refuted.html

https://islamgreatreligion.wordpress.com/2011/10/25/the-signs-before-the-day-of-judgment-day-minor-and-major-signs/

 

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