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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris and Everyone,

Masha'Allah and may Allah Almighty continue to protect you and bless you with knowledge and skills, akhi, people care a lot about your research.  Your posts on this blog have 10s of thousands of hits, walhamdulillah.

Keep up the great work akhi.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Wa aleikum as-salam wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh, thank you dear brother Osama for such kind words and dua. Amin! Same to you akhi.
Alhamdulillah, its realy good to hear that. Its certainly encouraging.

Take care
Idris
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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Idris and Everyone,

Masha'Allah and may Allah Almighty continue to protect you and bless you with knowledge and skills, akhi, people care a lot about your research.  Your posts on this blog have 10s of thousands of hits, walhamdulillah.

Keep up the great work akhi.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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@IDRIS

How can we tackle this verse in Hebrew


יב  וְנִתַּן הַסֵּפֶר, עַל אֲשֶׁר לֹא-יָדַע סֵפֶר לֵאמֹר--קְרָא נָא-זֶה; וְאָמַר, לֹא יָדַעְתִּי סֵפֶר.  {ס}   12

and the writing is delivered to him that is not learned, saying: 'Read this, I pray thee'; and he saith: 'I am not learned.

if we compare it to codex sinaiticus

we can clearly see word Hira, which corrector change into HEIRAS to mean hands


isaih in hebrew is older than codex sinaiticus in greek, so if someone say why do we not find word HIra or Hands/Heiras in hebrew bible isaih 29:12?

How do you respond to that?

Salam aleikum brother Dawud,

Well, if by "isaiah in hebrew is older than codex sinaiticus" you mean the Great Isaiah Scroll (1QIsa-a) of Qumran, then I would say don't be naive, and don't let them fool you! This Isaiah scroll is not really ancient as IAA claim to the world. In fact, Solomon Zeitlin (1886-1976) has already proved that it’s a medieval copy (produced sometime after Islam, possibly in the 7th-8th century). Solomon Zeitlin wrote many important publications. He was a distinguished Jewish historian, Talmudic scholar, and in his time the world's leading authority on the Second Temple period, thus he was a scholar whose reputation could hardly be denied (See e.g. Solomon Zeitlin: Scholar Laureate: An Annotated Bibliography, 1915–1970, With Appreciations of His Writings, ed. Sydney B. Hoenig (New York: Bitzaron; Philadelphia: Dropsie University, 1971). He was one of those few brave scholars who "dared" to question the supposed antiquity of DSS. See e.g. S. Zeitlin, "The Alleged Antiquity of the Scrolls." Jewish Quarterly Review 40/1 (1949), pp. 57-78; Idem, "The Propaganda of the Hebrew Scrolls and the Falsification of History." Jewish Quarterly Review 46/1 (1955), pp. 1-39; Idem, "The Fallacy of the Antiquity of the Hebrew Scrolls Once More Exposed." Jewish Quarterly Review 52/4 (1962), pp. 346-366

Such a well-known and highly reputed scholar certainly would not claim they are medieval fabrication unless convinced it was true. Internal-paleographical evidence from the scrolls themselves indicates toward a medieval production. Some have stressed the fact that many scrolls are written on vellum (about 90% of them), further confirms that these documents are indeed a medieval production. What is even more strange, scholars noted the lack of cinnabar-based metallic deterioration on the manuscripts which normally occurs after just 200 years on ancient materials. Additionally, many of the reading variants that 1QIsa-a shares, and that are not attested by MT, can only be found in the private collections of Kennicott’s and de Rossi's Hebrew medieval manuscripts, thus again potentially betraying the medieval nature of DSS.

Besides Solomon Zeitlin, few other biblical scholars of great reputation such as Louis-Hugues Vincent (1872-1960), a French archaeologist of the École Biblique, and Johannes Petrus Maria van der Ploeg (1909-2004), a Dutch Dominican specialist in Hebrew, Dead Sea Scrolls and Syriac manuscripts, also thought that DSS are medieval, not ancient. See John C. Trever, The Untold Story of Qumran (Chicago: F.H. Revell Company, 1965), p. 108

A couple of years ago, I had an email conversation with a Christian scholar Frederick Peter Miller (1931–2018) who confirmed to me that there are many strange editorial markings and traces of later revisions (altered shapes of letters, numerals, punctuation, etc.) observed in between different DSS publications that seems to be anachronistic since they are more consistent with the Middle Ages rather than the Macabbean or Hasmonean period to which the scrolls are said to come from. He and David Cooper told me about Neil Altman who is an independent researcher and expert on DSS, and who carefully studied the scroll of 1QIsa-a, and he was about to release his findings in a journal of El Paso. Scholars posed many questions to IAA with regard to the existence of these strange markings but they never answered them.

We can delve deeper into some of the "unspoken" controversies (and scandals) surrounding DSS but it’s not the right place to talk about it. However, I will insha'Allah write on it more in another occasion. In any case, this whole Israeli propaganda is a mere deceptive strategy to gain a pre-Islamic attestation (and attention) for the antiquity of biblical writings. They urgently needed a certificate to "back up" and/or predate their masoretic text (written in 10th century AD) by claiming to have found a much older copies, and one of the reasons is that they have realized that the Quranic accusation of corrupting the Hebrew Bible, sooner or later, will be inconvenient, unfavorable, and burdensome to their theo-political interest.

Take care,
Idris (Ahmed)
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As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

Welcome back akhi Idris.  I wanted to point out that we have to be mindful that not every Prophecy is necessarily about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  The OT makes prophecies about two Prophets to come, and like the ones about the Prophet who will come from Arabia, and demolish the idols through Holy Wars against the pagans, establish GOD's House and Covenant in Arabia, - who is Prophet Muhammad, - there are also ones about the coming Messiah, who will be born in Bethlehem.  Jesus perfectly fulfilled this:

Micah 5:2
But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, are only a small village among all the people of Judah. Yet a ruler of Israel, whose origins are in the distant past, will come from you on my behalf.

Matthew 2:6
‘And you, O Bethlehem in the land of Judah, are not least among the ruling cities of Judah, for a ruler will come from you who will be the shepherd for my people Israel.’”

Matthew 2:1
Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the reign of King Herod. About that time some wise men from eastern lands arrived in Jerusalem, asking,


Now Prophet Muhammad certainly has ample Prophecies in the OT and NT:  www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm



In regards to Isaiah 53, it doesn't talk about GOD Almighty will come down and be a suffering servant like the invented christianity claims.  All it issaying is that the Prophet-to-come will suffer from the Jews' plots and wickedness, but GOD Almighty in the end will save him from harm and death:

www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_91.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm




Mary and Jesus thanked GOD:

In Psalm 116:16, Jesus and his mother thanked GOD for saving Jesus from death and harm.  See Psalm 91:3, 8, 10, 11, 12 and 15.  So Isaiah 53 could be talking about Jesus.  I personally have no issues with it at all, and I don't see in it support for the false religion of satan, christianity; that he will die for our sins and rise on the third day.  The NT and OT thoroughly refute christianity's lies. 

www.answering-christianity.com/psalm_116_117_118.htm


Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As-salam aleikum wa rahmatullah,

I'm happy to see a brother who have a courage and creative mind to interpret Isaiah 53 as refering to Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ). And yes, based on my analysis I can confirm that Isaiah 53 is indeed, paradoxically, about Rasulullah (ﷺ), not Jesus (AS). After I finish Isaiah 29:12 (God willing), I will show insha'Allah in few points how Isaiah 53 actually depicts Prophet Muhammad (ﷺ), and especially one detail alludes to him in a truly spectacular way.

Take care,
Idris (Ahmed)
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on December 16, 2022, 09:03:23 PM »
I knew from your boyish name that you weren't from central Arabia.  Bedouins don't name Fadi.  Your name is also quite common among Arab Christians.
 But I don't care.

Also, not only I have read the Glorious Quran, but I have done thorough analysis on Its Holy Words and Topics:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm


If you can get inside your head that Iblis used to be Iblis peace be upon him before he became the curse satan, then everything I mentioned above will make sense to you.  Otherwise, get lost.  I don't need takfiri monkeys apostatizing when their logic goes bankrupt.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by fadi on December 14, 2022, 08:02:31 PM »
You did not guess right this time because you assumed that I am from Saudi Arabia, etc. I am Palestinian from Safad and have been living in Ontario Canada since 1987. Before you attack anyone, keep your intention good. Again, your argument that Mohamed or Jesus or else (pbut) could end up in hell fire or Jesus was put on the cross, tells me that you NEVER read the Quran.

Cheers,
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by QuranSearchCom on December 14, 2022, 06:07:25 PM »
The Glorious Quran says they neither crucified him nor killed him, but it was made to appear as such to them.  This means it appeared that they both crucified him and killed him.


It is possible that he received some painful beating in the midst of it due to his idiotic language in the NT that turned sinful into lawful and lawful into sinful.  We argued this before.  I have proven that even Prophets can be punished and even enter Hell Fire:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2428.msg18248#msg18248
https://www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_has_more_than_39_members.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_problematic_hyperboles.htm


And no I am not a Christian.  I am a Muslim.  But I am not a barfoon that just parrots back what scholars of old have said.  They have not reached the ceiling of all knowledge about Islam.  I am not confused at all.  You seem to be in so much confusion due to the cult that you're attached to.


And again, Jonah was an apostate Prophet when he was punished.  David too reach apostacy when he killed his neighbor and committed adultery with his wife.  So Jesus being punished by GOD Almighty is nothing new.  It happened before.  I also don't see any exoneration or vindication by Allah Almighty to Jesus in the Glorious Quran when Jesus will be put on trial and asked:

"Did you command your followers to take you and your mother as gods to be worshiped besides me?"


Yes Jesus will deny it.  But he could be telling a lie.  Read the Quran again.  The trial is left open.  No exoneration or vindication.  This means Jesus could end up in Hell.




Mary acquitted from all بهتان "buhtaan":


‏‏4:156 وبكفرهم وقولهم على مريم بهتانا عظيما

[004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;


We do see ample acquittal, exoneration and vindication of our mother Mary in the Glorious Quran about her:

1-  Never committed any fornication or adultery.
2-  Her child, Jesus, was born from her while she was still a virgin.



I know where you grew up you would not dare to think like this.  They would call you and apostate.  My neck is not under anyone's foot.  Maybe you should check where your neck is.



Jesus replaced Iblis (Satan):


You know that Iblis became the cursed satan because arrogance took him.  Well, according to Ezekiel 28:13-19, Jesus replaced Satan:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_learned_more_and_more.htm



So like satan,  pride and arrogance could take a Prophet like Jesus or any other.



I know that where you grew up and the cult that you follow, all of this is above your head brother.  LOOOL.  No issues.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: QuranSearchCom
« Last post by fadi on December 14, 2022, 05:22:14 PM »
QuranSearch: you are using the examples of Prophet Abraham (pbuh) that they put him in the fire but no harm happened to him, and the whale swallowed Jonah (Younes) (pbuh) but no harm happened to him, so you are saying that it’s the same for Jesus (pbuh) that they put him on the cross but no harm happened to him.

Let me inform you that your argument is completely false because for Prophet Abraham and Jonah (pbut), Allah clearly told us in Quran that they put Abraham in the fire and the whale swallowed Jonah but NO harm happened to them, but for Jesus, Allah clearly said: (Ma Salaboh) they did not crucify him. Therefore, there is no reason to discuss of whether they put Jesus on the cross or not because Allah told us (Ma Salaboh) which means he was not put on the cross. But you keep arguing, so it seams to me that perhaps Allah has blocked your heart and your eyes from seeing the truth, or perhaps your site is not an Islamic site but a Christian site and you are pretending that you are Muslim to promote the Christians ideology and to create confusion between Muslims.

Have a good day,
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