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As for humans all of them had took covenant with Him prior to being born on earth.

So prior to being born on earth,  Allah told the humans they need to worship him five times a day ?

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.  gods such as who demanded human sacrifice etc.


Pointing to the "criminal human behavior" of other gods does not mean

 Allah should also be viewed as having human characteristics ( example: worship among humans can only be found in abusive husbands and even then those abusive husbands do not demand worship five times a day )

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Deceiver has his ways to falsify the covenant sent by God for mankind.

When did Allah create the Deceiver ?

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If the Deceiver led you to think of something outside what was revealed by God. Then you will believe in part of God becoming human. Thats what the Deceiver had been doing to many sons of Adam in the past. So reread the Words of God for guidance.

You say "Deceiver".

 Can you tell me more about this "Deceiver"?

 Was he created by Allah ?

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they have to follow God's commands.

The command of worshipping only Allah seems a little too human to me since humans have the tendency of demanding or commanding worship of themselves (  abusive husbands tend to command worship )

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You do agree with the Trinity of a human being, right ?

 And why would you compare traits of a human being onto God. Is God some sort like Hellenistic God that has physical human bodies?

Let's assume all non-Muslim religions including Christianity are polytheistic, why would Allah care ? isn't he all loving and kind and does not mind people going after other gods ?

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it still does not make the Qur'an a separate being, it is an attribute of God, and it has also been called as a reflection of God's knowledge.

In addition to my comment above, are you saying there is no Quran in heaven beside Allah ?

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As I have already mentioned before, Qur'an's existence in eternity is a disputed point not one of consensus, and even if there was unanimity over this,

When you say  "there was unanimity over this, " you are also saying there is, at least, a minority of scholars who say that the Quran existed together with Allah in eternity, right ?

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We know its easy to think of a human as a trinity ( mind, body and spirit );
 the mind is the conscious self,
 the body is what we can see and
 the spirit is the unconscious self that regulates heartbeat, body temperature, sugar levels etc.
Can we apply the same trinity explanation, analogously to God ? in other words,
God exists as Mind and Spirit and the Spirit  in turn through the analogy of binary fission be (came )  Jesus in Mary's womb

There you go. About such philosophy.

You do agree with the Trinity of a human being, right ?

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how you evaluate the Mightiness of God.

Since God is truly mighty, He is able, not only to undergo "binary fission" but to be able to  use the Word "I"  (be) come Jesus in Mary's womb, right ?

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They agreed to be tested, therefore according to this covenant, they have to follow God's commands.

Could any reasonable person agree to a test when failure ( to worship Allah )  means being burned alive forever ?

 Allah must have revealed to the "test takers" that the devil failed to worship and, at least, one of the "test takers" would fail to worship and the result is being burned alive without end

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her (Mary) and for her offspring
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If Jesus was the offspring of Mary,where did the sperm come from ? the Spirit of God could not have provided the sperm, right ?

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 So His Words are eternal as God is eternal.


We know its easy to think of a human as a trinity ( mind, body and spirit );

 the mind is the conscious self,

 the body is what we can see and

 the spirit is the unconscious self that regulates heartbeat, body temperature, sugar levels etc.

Can we apply the same trinity explanation, analogously to God ? in other words,

God exists as Mind and Spirit and the Spirit  in turn through the analogy of binary fission  be (came )  Jesus in Mary's womb

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Christians say Holy Ghost did something to the egg's of Mary.

Does the Quran say anything about Mary's egg or was only the Spirit of God involved without any interaction with the egg ?

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Your assertion that the Qur'an does not call Jesus the "son of Mary" is amazing.

I did not say that the Quran does not call Jesus, son of Mary. What I said is

 that Jesus being the biological son of Mary ( from Mary's egg ) is not what the Quran is saying when Jesus is called son of Mary, similar to

the bible is saying Jesus is the Son of God, does not mean Jesus is the biological son of God

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