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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The emblem used for Islam: Satan has his ways....
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:50:55 AM »
Crescent is nothing special. Cross isn't islamic, so we are fine with anything else that isn't anti-islamic as a symbol of red-crescent.

And mosques use moon as designs, nobody worships it. It isn't a living thing so drawing it is supposed to be fine.

Btw, what was the design of muslim flag during the jihads taking place during the time of Muhammad Sm.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Does Allah have human-like qualities?
« on: June 19, 2015, 08:43:42 AM »
This is a question usually asked by atheists:

Allah is an intelligent being who loves men. Then why does he care if people worships him or not?? Why he would punish people for not worshiping him? And if a man does shirk, why Allah cares?? Our worships doesn't increase or decrease the glory of Allah. then why he cares about Haqqullah. Isn't being a virtuous man good enough for entering paradise?? Why fast? why offer Salat? why Allah wants us to do these??

Even Noble human doesn't care if other people slander him or doesn't give him proper thanks for what he does for them, why Allah cares then??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Staying healthy during ramadan
« on: June 19, 2015, 06:52:19 AM »
I am physically not that strong. And I usually suffer from diseases.  We have to fast for 13 hours here. How can i stay 100% fit and healthy?? I don't want to become weak as that will hamper my studies. What should i eat?? And is there any medicine that can give me some fat and glucose sufficient for 13 hours??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Rebuttal
« on: May 01, 2015, 10:00:51 AM »
http://www.simpletoremember.com/articles/a/islamjudaism/

Difference Between Judaism and Islam
 All About Islam
Could you explain the difference between Islam and Judaism as you did about Christianity? The way you outlined the differences was very clear. It appears to me that Islam tries to be more like Judaism.
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Islam, like Christianity, accepts the Jewish Bible and is based largely upon Jewish ideas and traditions. The philosophical underpinnings of Islam, however, are more closely aligned with those of Judaism. Whereas Christianity incorporates the idea of the “trinity,” Islam believes in one all-powerful, infinite God.
Indeed. Our basic view is same. But we don’t think your Torah is still authentic. That’s the reason we follow the Almighty’s final testament: Al-Quran
Mohammed, the founder of Islam, based many of his beliefs on the practices of local Jewish population in his native Mecca. For example, the Moslem practices of not eating pig, circumcision, daily prayer and fasting during the first month of the year were all culled directly from Judaism.

Actually Judaism adapted these from Islam :P. Here let me clear it by an analogy. There are many androids. Never mind, I will give the example of windows :P However, there are many versions of Windows, all are pretty much on the same basic but of different versions. Does that mean Windows 8 copied windows xp?? Now in 2015, if you still use windows 98, will that be wise?? So be updated, be a muslim.

Since Islam was so similar to Judaism, Mohammed assumed the Jews would immediately accept this new religion. When the Jews did not live up to his expectations, he turned violently against them and many Jews died by the sword. (We are still suffering from this today; may there be peace soon.)

Actually Jews first turned against him violating the treaty. Before I go into details, for your information you’re not suffering from that and there are already enough peace in your Israel. But our dear Palestine is burning. Our kids and our brothers and our sisters are dying. Open your eyes dude.
However, let’s start with the Prophet[/b]’s relation with Jews.
" As already related the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him), when he first settled at Medina, had patched up treaties with the Jews and guaranteed peace and full freedom of life, property and conscience. But when the Quraish wrote to them a threatening and inciting letter, they turned treacherous. The Holy Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) tried to get the treaty renewed. The Banu Nadir refused and they were banished. The Banu Quraiza concluded a fresh treaty and they were granted peace. These facts have been narrated briefly in Sahih Muslim in the following words: " As reported by 'Abdullah Ibn 'Umar, the Jews of the Banu Nadir and the Quraiza fought with the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him). The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) banished the Banu Nadir but allowed the Banu Quraiza to stay on and showed them favours.
 
  When the Banu Nadir had been banished, their leading chiefs, Huyayy Ibn Akhtab, Abu Rafi and Sallam Ibn Abi Al-Huquaiq had migrated to Khaibar and got recognised as leading chiefs. The battle of the Trenches was but the results of their machinations. They travelled far and near agitating the tribes till the whole country rose up in arms and attacked Medina in alliance with the Quraish. The Jews of the Banu Quraiza had a mind to stick to the treaty, but Huyayy Ibn Akhtab won them over with his guiles, promising to re-establish himself at Medina in case the Quraish abandoned the attack; and this promise he fulfilled.
 
 The Banu Quraiza openly took sides in the battle of the Trenches; and when repulsed, brought the greatest enemy of Islam, Huyayy Ibn Akhtab with them. Now there was no way out for the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) but to settle accoutns with them once for all."
 
(Source: Sirat Un Nabi by Allama Shibli Nu'Mani rendered into English by M. Tayyib Bakhsh Budayuni, p.119-120, Volume. II, Kazi Publications Lahore)
" The Muslims had hardly finished the preparations when the formidable army of the confederates consisting of 24,000 trained warriors, one of the largest forces ever assembled in the history of Arabia, knocked at the gates of Medina with determination to crush Islam. The whole of Arabia was thirsting for Muslim blood. It was critical juncture that a huge number of hypocrites seceded from the Holy Prophet on one pretext or the other. Banu Qurayzah who had been his ally, also deserted to the hostile camp since Huyayy b. Akhtab the head of the  Banu Nadir had promised them all kinds of concessions and rewards.
 
  Muhammad (peace be upon him) deuputed Sa'd b. Mu'adh and Sa'd b. 'Ubadah to negotiate with them and persuade them to honour their agreements with the Prophet. All the attempts of these devoted sons of Islam were futile. It was an hour of distress for the Muslims. The Holy Qur'an has referred to this state of affairs in the following words:
 
 When they came upon you from above you and from below you and when eyes turned aside and hearts reached the gullets and of Allah ye were imagining various things. There were the believers proven and shaken with a mighty shaking. And when the hypocrites and those in whose hearts is disease saying: Allah and His apostle have promised us naught but delusion.' And when a party of them said : O inhabitants of Yathribm there is no place for you, so return.' And a party of them asked leave of the Prophet saying : Veryily our houses lie open; whereas they lay not open; they only wished to flee. (xxxiii:10-13)"
 
(Source: The Life of Muhammad PBUH by Abdul Hameed Siddiqui, p.208 Islamic Publications LTD.)
 

Narrated Ibn `Umar: Bani An-Nadir and Bani Quraiza fought (against the Prophet violating their peace treaty), so the Prophet exiled Bani An-Nadir and allowed Bani Quraiza to remain at their places (in Medina) taking nothing from them till they fought against the Prophet again. He then killed their men and distributed their women, children and property among the Muslims, but some of them came to the Prophet and he granted them safety, and they embraced Islam. He exiled all the Jews from Medina. They were the Jews of Bani Qainuqa’, the tribe of `Abdullah bin Salam and the Jews of Bani Haritha and all the other Jews of Medina. – (Sahih al-Bukhari Volume 5, Book 59, Hadith 362)

And he didn’t do that at first as I showed above. To call a spade a spade, prophet didn’t do it at all. Saad Ibn Muadh was selected as Judge from the muslim by the jews themselves who was a friend of Jews. He asked everyone including prophet to promise that they would follow whatever judgement he gives. He judged it and Prophet peace be upon him just agreed to it. And besides Muslims didn’t break the treaty and according to the treaty, jews were supposed to be judged by jewish law.

Here is the jewish law:

Deuteronomy, 20-12-14(from bible gateway)

12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city. 13 When the LORD your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. 14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies.


The real difference between the two religions, however, lies in their basis for belief. Judaism is based on the unique historical event of a divine revelation experienced by the entire nation. Whereas Islam is based on the prophetic claims of a single individual who subsequently convinced others to follow his ways.

Actually we accept that Torah is word of God(But not your Torah; its corrupted). Torah was revealed in thousand years ago. Can you provide an evidence that it wasn’t changed???

And besides Prophet showed many miracles and the biggest miracle was and still is Quran. And do you forget how Moses’s people forgot what he taught when Moses was getting revelation?? At least our iman is better(even if we accept your claim that this event wasn’t witnessed by then muslims).

Talmudic tradition says that while Abraham’s son Isaac became the forefather of the Jewish people, the Islamic line is descended from Abraham’s other son Ishmael.
Maimonides states that the popularity of Christianity and Islam are part of God’s plan to spread the ideals of Torah throughout the world. This moves society closer to a perfected state of morality and toward a greater understanding of God. All of this is in preparation for the Messianic age.

Well Judaism comes from Islam, Moses was Muslim, Adam was, Ibrahim was, all prophets were muslim. Judaism is just a version of Islam.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Art and culture
« on: April 30, 2015, 01:59:04 PM »
Makruh and Haram...........

This is an old Osama Abdullah article that was removed from this site.

http://www.irfi.org/articles/articles_351_400/is_music_prohibited_in_islam.htm


Say, "Who prohibited the nice things God has created for His creatures, and the good provisions?" Say,"Such provisions are to be enjoyed in THIS life by those who BELIEVE. Moreover, the good provisions will be exclusively theirs on the Day of resurrection." We thus explain the revelations for people who know."  QURAN, 7:32


Now some hadiths:

From Bukhari Volume 2, Book 15, Number 70:

Narrated Aisha:
Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) came to my house while two girls were singing beside me the songs of Buath (a story about the war between the two tribes of the Ansar, the Khazraj and the Aus, before Islam). The Prophet (p.b.u.h) lay down and turned his face to the other side. Then Abu Bakr came and spoke to me harshly saying, "Musical instruments of Satan near the Prophet (p.b.u.h) ? " Allah's Apostle (p.b.u.h) turned his face towards him and said, "Leave them." When Abu Bakr became inattentive, I signaled to those girls to go out and they left. It was the day of 'Id, and the Black people were playing with shields and spears; so either I requested the Prophet (p.b.u.h) or he asked me whether I would like to see the display. I replied in the affirmative. Then the Prophet (p.b.u.h) made me stand behind him and my cheek was touching his cheek and he was saying, "Carry on! O Bani Arfida," till I got tired. The Prophet (p.b.u.h) asked me, "Are you satisfied (Is that sufficient for you)?" I replied in the affirmative and he told me to leave.

This same Hadith is reported to us again in Sahih Muslim:

Book 004, Number 1942:

'A'isha reported: The Messenger of Allah (way peace be upon him) came (in my apartment) while there were two girls with me singing the song of the Battle of Bu'ath. He lay down on the bed and turned away his face. Then came Abu Bakr and he scolded me and said: Oh! this musical instrument of the devil in the house of the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)! The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) turned towards him and said: Leave them alone. And when he (the Holy Prophet) became inattentive, I hinted them and they went out, and it was the day of 'Id and negroes were playing with shields and spears. (I do not remember) whether I asked the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) or whether he said to me if I desired to see (that sport). I said: Yes. I stood behind him with his face parallel to my face, and he said: O Banu Arfada, be busy (in your sports) till I was satiated. He said (to me): Is that enough? I said: Yes. Upon this he asked me to go.

Once again in Bukhari, this event is recorded:

Volume 5, Book 58, Number 268:

Narrated Aisha:
That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "Musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id."

PROPHET SM WOULD NEVER DO SOMETHING THAT IS HARAM.

   Noble Verse 4:163 "We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms."
 17:55 "And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We did bestow on some prophets more (and other) gifts than on others: and We gave to David (the gift of) the Psalms." 

Why would Allah give David something that would take people away from worshiping Allah??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Art and culture
« on: April 28, 2015, 10:07:58 AM »
Note that when I am talking about Music and Art, I am meaning those which doesn't cause problem. For example classic music, Arts of Da Vinci, Sculptures of Miachelangelo that is never worshipped. Look, is cultivating grapes haram?? Grapes are used to make wine, so why it isn't made haram??

I ain't interested about ruling. I am interested to get logical answer. Of course non-muslims won't be much interested in a religion that prohibits all forms of good arts and crafts. Afterall, a religion is a guideline to live your life. 

http://www.sailanmuslim.com/news/fatwa-on-music-by-the-grand-mufti-and-shaykh-of-al-azhar-shaykh-jad-al-haq-ali-jad-al-haq/

Al-Azhar's grand mufti making a rulling on music allowed. And as far as i recall, i think AC also had an article where brother Osama proved it was allowed. Not sure though but most probably there is/was a such article.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Was Jesus really equal to God?
« on: April 23, 2015, 07:58:35 AM »
John 5:

16 So, because Jesus was doing these things on the Sabbath, the Jewish leaders began to persecute him. 17 In his defense Jesus said to them, “My Father is always at his work to this very day, and I too am working.” 18 For this reason they tried all the more to kill him; not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

19 Jesus gave them this answer: “Very truly I tell you, the Son can do nothing by himself; he can do only what he sees his Father doing, because whatever the Father does the Son also does. 20 For the Father loves the Son and shows him all he does. Yes, and he will show him even greater works than these, so that you will be amazed. 21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

24 “Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. 25 Very truly I tell you, a time is coming and has now come when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God and those who hear will live. 26 For as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself. 27 And he has given him authority to judge because he is the Son of Man.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / A problem of bible.
« on: April 23, 2015, 07:53:10 AM »
The verses:

Jesus Is Tested in the Wilderness

4 Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 where for forty days he was tempted[a] by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry.

3 The devil said to him, “If you are the Son of God, tell this stone to become bread.”

4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone.’”

5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world. 6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”

8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’[c]”

9 The devil led him to Jerusalem and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. “If you are the Son of God,” he said, “throw yourself down from here. 10 For it is written:

“‘He will command his angels concerning you
    to guard you carefully;
11 they will lift you up in their hands,
    so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.’[d]”

12 Jesus answered, “It is said: ‘Do not put the Lord your God to the test.’[e]”

13 When the devil had finished all this tempting, he left him until an opportune time.


GOD WAS BEING TEMPTED BY SATAN???? :O Its impossible. So we conclude jesus isn't God even in the eyes of bible.

5 The devil led him up to a high place and showed him in an instant all the kingdoms of the world.

Thats scientifically impossible.

6 And he said to him, “I will give you all their authority and splendor; it has been given to me, and I can give it to anyone I want to. 7 If you worship me, it will all be yours.”

8 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God and serve him only.’[c]”

Satan is telling God to worship him????????  And if Jesus was God, doesn't that mean he already has all those things??

33 In the synagogue there was a man possessed by a demon, an impure spirit. He cried out at the top of his voice, 34 “Go away! What do you want with us, Jesus of Nazareth? Have you come to destroy us? I know who you are—the Holy One of God!”

35 “Be quiet!” Jesus said sternly. “Come out of him!” Then the demon threw the man down before them all and came out without injuring him.

36 All the people were amazed and said to each other, “What words these are! With authority and power he gives orders to impure spirits and they come out!” 37 And the news about him spread throughout the surrounding area.

the Holy One of God!”!!! And the Demon is telling him to go away??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Art and culture
« on: April 23, 2015, 07:36:05 AM »
Is Islam really against Art and Culture??

1. Classical and other good music, 2. Painting(including painting of living things. 3. Sculpture... are these really prohibited?? Why??

Allah said in Quran surah Maidah, verse 4:

Translation : Eng-Yusuf Ali

They ask thee what is lawful to them (as food): say: Lawful unto you are (all) things good and pure:

Those art form are good things basically. And it doesn't necessarily diver one from path of Allah.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / The property of Fadak.
« on: April 23, 2015, 07:31:06 AM »
Is it true that Prophet SM took the whole property of fadak because no sahabas fought to achieve that?? Is it just for the ruler to get the whole property that was earned without a fight, for himself?? Or should it be donated in the Path of Allah??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Banu Quraiza
« on: April 23, 2015, 07:23:29 AM »
Did the people of Banu Quraiza really break the treaty?? Is there any hadiths on it??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / what is our response to this??
« on: April 13, 2015, 01:56:51 AM »
Since there is no clear and direct proof of God, why would God want people to believe him??

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Declining the truth
« on: April 13, 2015, 01:52:56 AM »
As for those living in areas that Islam never reaches them, or perhaps Islam have reaches their places. But due to how Islam is portrayed as communism or evil belief nowadays.
They will simply decline truth or they will avoid study about Islam that is clearly bad in their eyes, they can just say Muslims's religion and their book are the work of Satan.

This is a matter of Allah to judge them in the Day of Judgement.

EXACTLY! well, i am wondering if there are any verses about these issues.

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The destroying and looting of manat temple
« on: April 13, 2015, 01:50:25 AM »
Sorry, actually, my topic was about the destruction of manat's temple.

The Muslim historian Hisham Ibn Al-Kalbi, mentions this event as follows:
“    The Quraysh as well as the rest of the Arabs continued to venerate Manah until the Apostle of God set out from Medina in the eighth year of the Hijrah[16], the year in which God accorded him the victory[17]. When he was at a distance of four or five nights from Medina, he dispatched 'Ali to destroy her. 'Ali demolished her, took away all her [treasures], and carried them back to the Prophet. Among the treasures which 'Ali carried away were two swords which had been presented to [Manah] by al-Harith ibn-abi-Shamir al-Ghassani, the king of Ghassan[18]. The one sword was called Mikhdham and the other Rasub. They are the two swords of al-Harith which 'Alqamah mentions in one of his poems.

He said:

"Wearing two coats of mail as well as Two studded swords, Mikhdham and Rasub [19]."

The Prophet gave these two swords to 'Ali.
[The Book of Idols, By Hisham Ibn-Al-Kalbi, Pg 13-14]

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / The destroying and looting of manat temple
« on: April 04, 2015, 01:37:43 PM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raid_of_Sa%27d_ibn_Zaid_al-Ashhali

What is this????

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