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.....Anyway, I hope that brother Osama will also join us, since there are extremely valuable info from Arabic sources that must be translated. Brother Osama, I will send you an important lectures when you will decide to join our team. Moreover, there is a digital library we must to get access in that contains a very, very interesting books! Many people are not even aware of it.

Also, does anyone know where is brother Tahmeed/Tahmeem ? He almost certainly will join us also. What is the answer of brother submit… would you like to join me and the rest of brothers ?

Jazakoum Allah khayran!
Ahmed (Poland)

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Idris,

Please count me in.  I will be happy to help in the translation of the Arabic materials into English.  Just assign me the task, akhi.  Insha'Allah, I will do my utmost best this time to be prompt with my delivery.  Also, any financial burden I will carry.  Whatever you need from money to order any material, just let me know insha'Allah.  I will even use the brothers' and sisters' donations to my Paypal account to help in this.  This way, everyone can contribute, insha'Allah.

As to brothers Tahmeed and Submit, they are each in their rings.  Just rub the rings with your finger and they'll pop up with mighty smokes from their rings :).  I will email them :).

Jazaka Allah Khayr.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Assalamu alaikum brother Osama and Idris,

It feels greal to write here after a like time!

Well brother, I am literally in a ring like bro Osama said but the Jinee is having difficulties popping up!!! My HSC exam just finished and my 'Admission war' just began brothers. I would really really like to join you but I am currently buried in studies. I will inshaAllah have a lot of free times after my University admission. Till then, please pray for me. May Allah bless you and wipe out your sins for the great service you are doing to Islam.

Tahmeed

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Catholics say...
« on: October 26, 2015, 06:18:45 AM »
Well it is good then!

The next time they criticize the Quran, tell them, "Shaitan, dogs and trinitarians can't interpret the Quran. So just shut up"

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Assalamu alaikum brothers,

At first, why do you even bother about what is written in the bible? Isn't that a corrupted book with 100+ contradictions? Anyone can write these things and put them in the book. But yet it is crystal clear from the OT and NT that God is one and One only.

Tell the polytheist to bring a 100% proof that Jesus really said those things.

Don't you know that there are so many false hadiths making Prophet Muhammad almost equal to God? Like the hadiths where he says he was created from Allah's Light, the world was created for him........... NAUZUBILLAH... he never said these things.

May Allah save us from the fitna of Christians and the fitna of false Hadiths.
Tahmeed

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Assalamu alaikum everyone,

Here is a good article about it, written by Christian and proving that Islam is not the biblical antichrist.

http://blogs.christianpost.com/geopolitics-and-bible-prophecy/myths-of-a-muslim-antichrist-12641/

It will be better if you avoid the hateful comments on that page  >:(

Peace :) :)

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: I just restored the blog....
« on: September 29, 2015, 09:18:34 AM »
Bro does this happen often? I have seen it twice before. You should do something.  :-\

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: JESUS is GOD – Prophecies
« on: September 27, 2015, 01:40:52 PM »
Now discover the Truth is an incredible website! The author Kaleef K. Karim is very talented I see!

Isaiah 9:6
http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/06/25/isaiah-96-messiah-god/

Isaiah 7:14
http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/06/22/isaiah-714-immanuel-prophecy-of-jesus/

Also my favorite part in the website-

Debunking The Myth That The Quran Endorses Violence
http://discover-the-truth.com/2014/11/08/debunking-the-myth-that-the-quran-endorses-violence-2/

May Peace be upon you all

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: JESUS is GOD – Prophecies
« on: September 27, 2015, 01:30:15 PM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother Ahmed,

At first a little advice brothert. Before posting this kind of things, please add- "Christians claim, Missionaries say...etc" at the beginning or people might get confused.

Now, it's a really an old technique of those polytheists to use the OT to validate their foul Trinity.

Talking about Isaiah 7:14, the Hebrew is not even 'Virgin' it's 'Young woman'. This has been explained here.

http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/268/trinitarian-verses-part-2/

About Isaiah 9:6, the fact that the New Testament does not quote this passage shows that even the New Testament authors didn’t take this verse to be in reference to Jesus!

This has been explained here http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/267/trinitarian-verses-part-1/

Daniel 7:13-14 is a verse where christians translators have proven how fraud they are. Firstly, it is not 'worshipped' but 'served' and secondly, it does not talk about Jesus.

http://discover-the-truth.com/2013/07/06/daniel-713-14-messiah-jesus-god/
http://forums.understanding-islam.com/showthread.php?10722-Daniel-7-13-14-human-receives-worship

And from a Jewish forum:
http://hermeneutics.stackexchange.com/questions/1756/jewish-interpretation-of-daniel-713-14

Yes these three verses are indeed mostly quoted by Christians trying to validate their hoax. But all have been refuted Alhamdulillah!

And here is a technique of debunking their 'prophesies'. Keep in mind that Jews understand the Scripture more than Christians, as they are actually the ones who follow OT and they actually know Hebrew- also their Rabbis are much more wise than fraud Christian translators. So whenever you see a trinitarian quoting these so called prophesies from the OT, go to google, type "Jewish explanation of Isaiah 7:14/ 9:6/ Daniel 7:13-14 and etc........" I saw myself it helps! I found the last link in this way  ;)

May Allah give us victory over these infidels.

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Assalamu alaikum everyone!!!

We all know Allah's Divine claim:

[003:059]  The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.

Now we also know that each of the names 'Isa/Masih' and "Adam" occurs 25 times in the Quran which has been discussed in this article-

Adam and Jesus have the same occurrences in the Noble Quran:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/adam_jesus_miracle.htm

But bro Osama if we stop there the bloody infidels will say this is just a coincidence!

So ALLAH Almighty has given us a back up!

Look what this article says- http://www.discoveringislam.org/return_of_jesus.htm

Though it's about 'The return of Jesus', it has a interesting section (number 15) named  "The similarity between Jesus and Adam"

If you just add one chart and some explanation, it will be solid In-shaa-Allah!

I am quoting from the article now.

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15. The similarity between Jesus and Adam

The 59th verse of the Sura 3 (Family of Imran) points to a similarity between Adam and Jesus. There is no other comparison like that between any other two prophets in the Quran. How many times are each of Jesus' first name and the word "Adam" mentioned in the Quran? Exactly 25 times each.

The verse that points to this similarity between Jesus and Adam is :

[3:59] The example of Jesus, as far as GOD is concerned, is the same as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him, "Be" so he becomes.

If we study the numerical value of the names,  عِيسَى (Jesus  in Arabic) and  ءَادَمَ (Adam in Arabic), we will find that the numerical values of Jesus: 70 +10+ 60 +10 and of Adam: 1+ 1+ 4 + 40.

If we add all the digits of Jesus and Adam:  7+0+1+0+6+0+1+0+1+1+4+4+0 = 25.

Jesus' name is mentioned 25 times in the Quran and also Adam's name is mentioned 25 times in the Quran.

Trinitarian Christians believe Jesus is God because Jesus was created without a father. Such a blasphemous belief is contrary to the omnipotence of God. God provides us with Adam as the ultimate, miraculously created human being whom God created, though Adam had no father and no mother. Whereas Jesus had at least mother, but no father.  Adam's birth was more miraculous than Jesus' birth. Since Christian believe Adam was a merely a human being, so they should recognize that Jesus was also merely a human being like Adam.

By doing so, God shows how illogical it is to attribute to Jesus divine qualifications. God, while referring to the similarity between Adam and Jesus, also supports this statement with numerical miracles mentioning each of Jesus and Adam  25 times in the Quran.

The numerical miracle is not limited to this alone. Let’s examine the table below: 



Verse 59 of Sura Family of Imran (Chapter 3) illustrates the relationship between Adam and Jesus. It is the only verse in which these two names are mentioned together. In this verse, both these two names are used the 7th time from the beginning of the Quran. On the other hand, these two names in verse 59 are the 19th time they are mentioned in Quran, if we start counting from the end of the Quran.

From the beginning of the Quran to verse 3:59, there are 352 verses. In 3:59, the names Adam and Jesus are used for the 7th time. So, we get: 352 + 7 = 359 which refers to verse 3:59

We would like to present another interesting point. How many times the word Mary is used in the Quran? 34 times. As we have mentioned earlier, Jesus is mentioned by name is Sura Mary in verse 34.

ذَلِكَ عِيسَى ابْنُ مَرْيَمَ قَوْلَ الْحَقِّ الَّذِي فِيهِ يَمْتَرُونَ

34. Such is ‘Isa son of Maryam (Jesus son of Mary. That is) the truth about which these people doubt.

The 19th occurrence of each of the names of Jesus and Adam in the Quran (if we count from the beginning of the Quran) is in the Sura Mary which is the 19th Sura of the Quran. The word Jesus appears in verse 34 and the word Adam appears in the verse 58 of Sura Mary. If we start counting from the verse 34 (including verse 34), we find that verse 58 is the 25th verse.

أُوْلَئِكَ الَّذِينَ أَنْعَمَ اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِم مِّنَ النَّبِيِّينَ مِن ذُرِّيَّةِ آدَمَ وَمِمَّنْ حَمَلْنَا مَعَ نُوحٍ وَمِن ذُرِّيَّةِ إِبْرَاهِيمَ وَإِسْرَائِيلَ وَمِمَّنْ هَدَيْنَا وَاجْتَبَيْنَا إِذَا تُتْلَى عَلَيْهِمْ آيَاتُ الرَّحْمَن خَرُّوا سُجَّدًا وَبُكِيًّا

58. These are the people on whom Allah bestowed Favour from among the Prophets of the seed of Adam and of those (believers) whom We (saved and) carried with Noah in the Ark, and of the descendants of Abraham and Israel (Jacob) and of those (chosen ones) whom We guided and exalted. When the Verses of the Most Kind (Lord) are recited to them, they fall down prostrating themselves in (profuse) tears.


I have not confirmed it yet. But I will soon is-shaa-Allah.

The site is mainly about the End of Time signs and incidents. You will find it very interesting!

Your brother in Islam,

Tahmeed

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Arman,

What does Alif Lam Meem have to do with this doomed-to-Hell infidel's statement, which is entirely against Islam?  Christian Prince is an infidel that is full of hate and envy against Islam, because he gets up everyday with doubts about his false religion, the trinity.  He knows that Jesus the Messiah, peace be upon him, isn't our Creator.  He knows that his religion is no more than a man-made lie.  And he hates us and hates Islam for that.

This infidel had been thoroughly refuted here:

www.answering-christianity.com/christian_prince_rebuttals.htm

And to the reader, to see the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Scientific Miracles, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Please don't mind but I am disappointed bro Osama!

Bro Arman has a teeth breaking response here!!!! You should tell him whether this is gramatically correct or not.

And bro Aramn, can you do this using the name 'Paul' instead of Jesus??? Ask bro Osama what's Paul in Arabic.

And to Christian prince about his foul logic.....

The Quran says Alif, Lam, Mim and numerical value is 426.

'Jesus Christ is the Son of God' also is 426!

So the Quran really came from God!

So Islam is true!

So Jesus is not Son of God!

Case Solved!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now I hope that helped InshaAllah!!!

Tahmeed

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Tahmeed,

Thank you again dear brother for the beautiful addition.  May Allah Almighty bless you.  Ameen.  I have added the article to the website at:

www.answering-christianity.com/lie_about_prophet_muhammad_and_grandson_hasan.htm

It was too irresistible :).  I couldn't wait to add it.  You have motivated me, akhi.  Keep up the great work :).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Walaikumus Salam wa rahmatullah akhi,

And JazakaAllahu khair!!!

May Allah bless you too for your great service to Islam!

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Walai kumus salam wa rahmatullah!

the Jews do have a tradition claimed to be from biblical times being called covenant of circumcision where the Jews placed their mouth at baby penis and suck blood from penis.

The fabricated stories may have come from 'Israelite Muslims' to show blessing by kissing penis.

To add to brother Submit's point, here is what I found on the internet:

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brit_milah:

Reasons for circumcision[edit]
...
causes the circumcised portion of the penis to resemble a heart, .....


31. ^ Rambam - Maimonides in his "book of laws" Laws of Milah Chapter 2, paragraph 2: "...and afterwards he sucks the circumcision until blood comes out from far places, in order not to come to danger, and anyone who does not suck, we remove him from practice."

33. ^ Jump up to: a b Halperin, Mordechai; (translated by Yocheved Lavon) (Winter 2006). "Metzitzah B'peh Controversy: The View from Israel". Jewish Action (Orthodox Union) 67 (2): 25, 33–39. Archived from the original on March 6, 2012. Retrieved February 15, 2007. The mohel brings the baby’s organ into his mouth immediately after the excision of the foreskin and sucks blood from it vigorously. This action lowers the internal pressure in the tissues of the organ, in the blood vessels of the head of the organ and in the exposed ends of the arterioles that have just been cut. Thus, the difference between the pressure in the blood vessels in the base of the organ and the pressure in the blood vessels at its tip is increased....


The reader can do more Google research on this topic at:

https://www.google.com/#q=covenant+of+circumcision+definition+suck+blood+from+baby+penis

Thank you both brothers! I didn't know that! That information is greatly helpful as bro Submit explained it!

And bro Osama please notify us when you update the site and add the article. Some christians are using that fabricated thing but I can't give them a useful link. I will be if you add the article soon! :)

May Allah bless you both!

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Yes your point is good akhi Arman.

A nine hour crucifiction is nothing when compared to burning in Hell for eternity :P

Also, nine hour crucifiction is not enough punishment for the sin of whole mankind. I think that just covers one or two mans' sins!

So the NT God is so much love that he is planning to roast us (perhaps for the feast of his marriage with jerusalem :P ) and then kill us by the sword! WOW!

Hallaluyah and Hell yeah!

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Assalamu alaikum all brothers and sisters,

Specially brother Osama,

Previously I asked about this fabricated Hadith and if someone could translate this thread (http://www.ahlalhdeeth.com/vb/showthread.php?t=205706 ) but no one did :( But Alhamdulillah I just found incredible material proving that this hadith is nothing but a big fat lie!

I found this article in a Facebook Group. May Allah bless that Group and the admins! It provides ample proof that the narrators in the chain are mostly liars!

Till now, I haven’t found any Islamic Site (which answer critics, like AC, Call to Monotheism, Turning the Table etc…) having a detail article about this, just some forum chats like the one in Multaqa Ahl Al-Hadeeth. But this is such a serious matter so I think you, bro Osama, should add this article in the main AC site, it will be greatly helpful for Muslims in-shaa-Allah!

If you do so, mention these two links please, the admin of the group translated from here.

https://antishubohat.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/hassan_shubha/
and   http://www.4salaf.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1221

Now read the article. I copy pasted directly so if you have a problem please ask me. The bibliography is also provided below the article.

Please read the whole article!

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Assalamo Alaykom ,
BismiLah Al Rahman Al Raheem

Refutation of the lie :
The Prophet Muhammad ﷺ used to kiss Al Hussein’s ( little ) Penis !!!
 
What Christians and Hadith Rejecters don’t understand is : we don’t accept narrations just like that , we don’t accept narrations from weak narrators , from unknown people but only from trusted people .
 
Imam Muslim says in the introduction of his book Sahih Muslim :
 
Know - may Allah, exalted is He, grant you success – that what is obligatory upon everyone who is aware of the distinction between the Sahīh transmissions and their weak, the trustworthy narrators from those who stand accused, is to not transmit from them except what is known for the soundness of its emergence and the protection of its narrators; and that they fear what may be from those accused (of deficiency in narrating) and the stubborn people of innovation . [ 1 ]
 
Takhrij Al Hadith ( tracking of hadith ) :
 
This Hadith have 5  ways ( was narrated by 5 people about the messenger of Allah ﷺ  with different chains ) : 
1==   Hadith of Ibn Abbas RA ,
2== Hadith Abi Dabyan (a companion of a companion ) ,
3==   Hadith Jabir ibn Abdellah RA ,
4==   Hadith of Abi Layla Al Ansari ,
5==  Hadith of Anas ben Malik RA .
 
In shaa Allah we will list all the books who mentioned the Hadith ,all the different Isnads the Hadith have been reported with  , will see what scholars said about the Hadith , will check the chains of Narrations ( Isnad )  of each Hadith and see either if it is authentic or just someone fabricated the Hadith and the chains of Narration  .
 
1 ==   Hadith of Ibn Abbas RA
 
 
Al Tabari said :
Al Hasan ben Ali Al Faswi  narrated to us about Khaled ben Yazid Al Arni , about Jarir , About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father , that Ibn Abbass RA said :
He (the prophet) put Husein’s legs apart and kissed his (little) penis . [ 2 ]
 
What Christians and HR don’t know is that there is a defect in this Hadith , which is Qabous ben Abi Dabyan ; Who is a weak narrator according to the scholars of Jarh and Taadil .
 
Ibn Al Mulaqan in Al Badr Al Munir, after he cited the Hadith commented : Qabous , Al Nisaai and others said  he is not a strong narrator . [ 3 ]
Ibn Saad said : he is a weak narrator and his narration shouldn’t take as a testimony . [ 4 ]
 
Al Nisaai said : Not a Strong narrator . [ 5 ]
 
Ibn Hibban said : he was a bad memorizer (weak memory ) ,he used to narrate about his father things no other one has mentioned .  [ 6 ]
 
Al Dahabi in Mizan Al Itidal :
Qabous ben Abi Dabyan ; Ibn Mouyein ,Abo Hatim ,Nisaii and Ibn Hiban declared him  : not a trustworthy narrator . [ 7 ]
 
Al Albani in Asilsila Daeefa : commented on the Hadith as weak he cited what the scholars said about Qabous . [ 8 ]
 
Ibn Hajar in Al Talkhis Al Habir : Hadith is Daeef and Qabous is not a trustworthy narrator. [ 9 ]
 
Muheyii Deen Al Dimashqi in Khulasat Al Ahakam : weak Hadith . [ 10 ]
 
Muhamed ben Tahir Al Maqdisi in Dakhirat Al hufad : weak Hadith and Qabous is a weak narrator . [ 11 ]
 
Imam Shawkani in Nail Al Awtar : in the Isnad Qabous ben abi Dabyan , declared weak by Al Nisaai . [ 12 ]
 
 
2 == Hadith of Abi Dabyan 
 
Ibn Abi Dunya narrated about his sheikh Isaac ben Ismail about Jarir about Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father :
the prophet used to put Al Husein’s legs apart and kiss his (little) penis . [ 13 ]
 
This Isnad reported by Ibn Abi Dunya here is much weaker than the one reported by Al Tabari, because it adds another defect which is :  Qabous ben Abi Dabyan attributed the Hadith directly to the prophet ﷺ .
 
-The Isnad reported by Tabari was : ….. Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father , that Ibn Abbass RA said .
-The Isnad reported by Ibn Abi Dunya is :….. Qabous ben Abi Dabyan about his father .
 
In the science of Hadith we call it “ Mursal Hadith ” which means a companion of the companion (of the prophet ﷺ ) narrates directly from the Prophet ﷺ without mentioning the companion which he heard the Hadith from .
Dabyan the father of Qabous narrated the Hadith directly from the Prophet ﷺ .
The father of Qabous was a companion of a companion of the prophet ﷺ. he never saw the prophet ﷺ .
 
So , the narration reported by Ibn Abi Dunya has two problems :
1= Qabous ben Abi Dabyan is a weak narrator
2= the Hadith is Mursal .
 
3 ==   Hadith of Jabir ibn Abdullah RA
 
Ibn Asaker narrated in  Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus )  :
Abu Al Kasim Ali Ben Ibrahim and Abu Al Hassan Ali ben Ahmed , about Abu mansour ben Zurayq told us , about Abu Bakr  Ahmed ben Ali Al Khateeb , about Al Azhari , about Al muaafi ben Zakarya , about Muhamed ben Mazyad ben Abi Al Azhar , about Ali ben Muslim Al Tousi , about Said ben Ameir , About Qabous ben Abi Dabyan , about his father , about his grandfather , about Jabir ben Abd Allah RA .
And he narrated to us Another time  ( Qabous )  about his  father , about jabir ben Abd Allah RA said :
I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his  (little) penis and Saying : May Allah curse the one who will kill you  . End quot  [ 14 ]
 
A fabricated narration : In the Isnad we have a weak narrator and a liar.
 
Ibn Asakir in the next page , after citing the hadith said : Al Khateeb Said : this hadith is a fabricated one both its Isnad (the chain of narration) and its Matn (the story ) , and I think that Ibn Abi Al Azhar put / invented / fabricated  it , then attributed it to Qabous about his father about his grandfather about Jabir ben Abdellah RA; when he released that this Isnad is impossible he changed it to Qabous about his father about jabir RA .End quot
 
Al  Kahteeb Al Baghdadi in Tarikh Baghdad , after citing the Hadith :
 
this hadith is a fabricated one both its Isnad (the chain of narration) and its Matn (the story ) , and I think that Ibn Abi Al Azhar fabricated  it (made it up ) , then attributed it to Qabous about his father about his grandfather about Jabir ben Abdellah RA; when he released that this Isnad is impossible he changed it to Qabous about his father about jabir RA ; Abu Dabyan ( the father of Qabous ) met Salman Al Farisi RA and Ali Ben Abi Talib RA and heard Hadith from them  ,
the father of Qabous ‘s name was Huseein ben Jundob , and this Jundob ( the grandfather of Qabous ) we don’t know if he was  either a Muslim or a Kafir .
there is another evidence that shows the Hadith is fabricated : it is impossible for Said ben Ameir to narrate from Qabous , they never met each other , Said is from Basra and Qabous from Kufa ,more than that Qabous died before Said was born . End quot  [ 15 ]
 
The defects in the Narration are :
 
1 = Qabous ben Abi Dabyan as we mentioned earlier is a weak narrator.
2 = Muhamed ben Mazyad ben Abi Al Azhar is a Liar .
3 = broken chain of narration
 
Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani said in Lisan Al Mizan :
Al Khateeb said : it’s possible that ibn Abi Al Azhar fabricated the Hadith , he fabricated many Ahadith ; he was (Muhamed ben Mazyad)  not a trustworthy narrator, he used to fabricate Hadith and attribute it to a trusted narrators .
Al Daraqoutni : he was weak ; other fabricated Ahadith were narrated about him .
Abu Al Hassan ben Al Furat said , Abu Al Fath Ubaid Allah ben Ahmed Al Nahwi said :the scholars of Hadith declared ben abi Al Azhar as a liar .
Al Marzabani said : the scholars of Hadith declared him as a liar ; and I say he was a shameless liar  . End quot [ 16 ]
 
Al Tarablosi in Al Kashf Al Hatit : a fabricated Hadith . [ 17 ]
 
Al Dahabi in Mizan Al Itidal :  a fabricated Hadith , Muhammed ben Mazyad ben Abi Al Azhar is a liar . [18]
 
Imam Shawkani in Al Fawaid al majmouaa : this Hadith of Jabir about the prophet ﷺ kissing Husein’s little penis , Al Khateeb said it is fabricated both Isnad and Matn . [ 19 ]
 
A fabricated Hadith said Ibn Al Jawzi in Al Mawduaat (the fabricated ones ). [ 20 ]
 
Ibn Iraq Al Qinani Al Shafii in his book Tanzih Al Sharia : a fabricated Hadith . [ 21 ]
 
Jalal udeen Al Suyuti in Al La alyi’ Al Masnouaa fi Al Ahadith Al Maoudouaa : a made-up Hadith. [22]
 
4 ==   Hadith of Abi Layla Al Ansari
 
Al Bayhaqi narrated in his book Al Sunan Al Kubra :
 
Abu bakr Al Qadi and Abu Said ben Abi Amrou said, Abu Al Abbas Muhamed ben Yacoub said, muhamed ben Isaac  said ,Muhamed ben Imraan about his father , about ben Abi Layla about Isa about Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla said :
We were at the presence of Rasoul Allah , and al Hasan came to him  ,he kissed his (little) penis. [23]
 
Al Bayhaqi himself commented on this narration as weak , he cited the narration then just after he commented : and this Isnad is not strong  ; In the Isnad there is Muhamed ben Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla , who is a weak narrator .
 
Al Albani said in Irwa’ Al Ghalil : the Hadith was narrated by ibn Abi Layla who is Muhamed ben Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla and he is a weak narrator for his bad memorization . [ 24 ]
 
Al Dahabi said in Mizan Al Itidal  :
 
Abu Zuraa (Al Razi) said : not a strong narrator .
and Ahmed (ben Hanbal ) Said : confused (used to mix narrations ) .
and Shuba said : I didn’t saw worse than his memorization .
Yahya Al Qatan said : he had a very bad memorization / memory.
Nisaii : not so strong .
Al Daraqoutni : weak memorization , illusionist .
Abu Ahmed Al hakim : most of his narrations are
Reversed /mixed. [ 25 ]
 
Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani in Al Talkhis Al Habir : Muhamed ben Abd-alrahman ben Abi Layla is a weak narrator . [ 26 ]
 
Ibn Al Mulaqan said in Al Badr Al Munir : …. Weak Hadith . [ 27 ]
 
Imam Nawawi in Al Majmou’ Sharh Al Muhadab : … Hadith of Abi Layla is weak . [ 28 ]
 
Ibn Abi Dunya in Al Iyal : weak Hadith . [ 29 ]
 
5 ==  Hadith of Anas ben Malik RA
 
Ibn Asaker in Tarikh Dimashq :
 
Abu Muhamed Ismail ben Abi Al Qasim , about Abu Hafs Omar ben Ahmed ben Masrour ,about Al Hakim Abu Ahmed Muhamed ben muhamed  ben Ahmed Al Hafiz , about Abu Yusef Muhamed ben Sufyan Al Safaar in Al Masisa , about Al yaman ben Said , about Al Harith ben Atiya , about Shu’ba , About Al Hakam , about Ibrahim , About Anas RA that he said : I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his  (little) penis . [30]
 
Tamam Al Razi in Al Fawaid : Al Hassan ben Al Hassan ben Alan Al Harani Al Hafiz told us , about Muhamed ben Sufyan Al masisi , about Al yaman ben Saiid ,about  Al harith ben Atia, About Shu’ba , about Al hakam , about Ibraheem , that Anas ben malik Said : I saw the messenger of Allah ﷺ putting Al Hassan’s legs apart and kissed his  (little) penis . [ 31 ]
 
The Narration is too weak for 6 reasons :
 
1 =  This is a weak Isnad , Al Yaman ben Said al Masisi is a weak narrator .
Imam Ibn Hajar Al Haithami said in his book Tuhfat Al Muhtaj fi sharh al minhaj  :
Ibn Asakir narrated in his Tarikh with a >>weak Isnad 32 ]
 
Al Yaman Ben Said al masisi , Al Daraqoutni classified him among the weak narrators in his book Al Duaffa’ wal Matroukin (the weak narrators and those who shouldn’t take narrations from them ). [ 33 ]
 
Ibn AL Jawzi in Al Duafaa wal Matroukin : Yaman ben Said Abu redwan Al Shami Al Masisi , Daraqoutni Said he is weak . [ 34 ]
 
Al  Dahabi in Al Mughni fi Al Duafaa : Yaman Ben Said al masisi , Al Daraqoutni classified him among the weak narrators . [ 35 ]
 
Al Dahabi in Mizan ul Itidal :
Yaman Ben Said al masisi , declared weak by Al Daraqoutni . [ 36 ]
 
Ibn Hajar in lisan Al Mizan :
Yaman Ben Said al masisi , declared weak by Al Daraqoutni and others …. [ 37 ]
 
2 =  In the Isnad Al Harith ben Atiya Al Basri .
 
Ibn Hajar in Tahdib Al Tahdib : …. Al Saji Said , he is a weak narrator, Ahmed said  I didn’t took Hadith from him . [ 38 ]
 
3 =  Muhamed ben Sufyan Al Masisi is not mentioned in the biographies of narrators , an unknown narrator .
 
4 =  Ibrahim that was mentioned in the Hadith full name is Ibn yazid Al Nukhaai , and he is a Mudalis ( used to change the Isnad - to make it short -  and attribute narrations to someone who didn’t say it ) .
 
Al Ala’yi in Jamii’ Al tahseel : Ibrahim ben Yazid Al Nukhaai , Al hakim mentioned that he was a dangerous Mudalis…. . [ 39 ]
 
5 =  The Hadith is maktou’ (broken chain of narration ) because Ibrahim ben Yazid al Nukhaai never heard from any Sahabi .
Al Ala’ii in Jamii’ Al tahseel :
 
Ibrahim ben Yazid Al Nukhaai , was a Mudalis and used to narrate Hadith with a broken Isnads , Ali ben Al Madini said : Ibrahim never met any of the Sahaba of the prophet [ 40 ]
   
 
6= Al Hakam ben Utaiba is a Mudalis .
Al Ala’i in Jamii’ Al tahsil :
Al Hakam ben Utaiba accused of being a Mudalis according of many scholars . [ 41 ]



Bibliography :
 
[ 1 ] Chapter 1 : The Obligation of Transmitting on Authority of Trustworthy         Narrators and Abandoning the Liars .
http://www.sunnah.com/muslim/introduction
[ 2 ]  Al Mujam Al Kabir by Al Tabarani vol 3 , p 51 , N° 2658 .
Also narrated by Al Dyaa’ in his book Al Ahadith Al Mukhtara vol 9 , P 555 , N° 549 .
[ 3 ]  Ibn Al Mulaqan , Al Badr Al Munir fi Takhrij Al Ahdith wa Al Atar Al Waqiaa fi Al Sharh Al Kabir  vol 2 p 479 .
البدر المنير في تخريج الاحاديث الواقعة في الشرح الكبير لابن الملقن ج2 ص479 ط دار الهجرة – الرياض
[ 4 ] Ibn Saad , Al Tabaqat Al Kubra vol 8 , p 459 .
[ 5 ] Al Nisaai , Al Duafaa wal Matroukin p 227 .
[ 6 ]  Ibn Hibban , Al Majrouhin min Al Mutahaditeen vol 2 , p 219 .
[ 7 ]  Al Dahabi , Mizan Al Itidal  vol 5 , p 445 .
[ 8 ]  Al Albani , Asilsila Daeefa vol 5 p 28 Hadith N° 2029 .
[ 9 ] Ibn Hajar ,  Al Talkhis Al Habir vol 1 p 127 .
تلخيص الحبير في تخريج أحاديث الرافعي الكبير بن حجر العسقلاني ج1 ص222 ط مؤسسة قرطبة .
[10] Muheyii Deen Al Dimashqi Khulasat Al Ahakam vol 1 p 138 N° 283 .
[11] Muhamed ben Tahir Al Maqdisi, Dakhirat Al hufad vol 2 , p 769 , N° 1466 .
ذخيرة الحافظ لمحمد بن طاهر المقدسي ص769 ح1466 ط دار الدعوة بالهند، ودار السلف بالرياض .
[12]  Shawkani , Nail Al Awtar vol 2 , p 53 .
[13] Ibn Abi Dunyaa , Al iyal vol 1 , p 376 , N° 211.
كتاب العيال لابن أبي الدنيا ج1/ص 376 برقم 211
[14]  Ibn Asaker,Tarikh Dimashk (history of Damascus )  vol 14 , p 224 .
[15] Al  Kahteeb Al Baghdadi , Tarikh Baghdad vol 3 , p 290 .
[16] Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani ,  Lisan Al Mizan vol 7 ,  p 501.
[17]  Al Tarablosi ,Al Kashf Al Hatit aman romia bewada’ al Hadith vol 1 , p 248 , N° 733 .
[18] Al Dahabi , Mizan Al Itidal vol 6, p 330 .
[19]  Shawkani , Al Fawaid al majmouaa fi al Ahadith al mawduaa , vol 1 , p 388 , N° 107 .
[20]  Ibn Al Jawzi , Al Mawduaat (the fabricated ones ) vol 1 , p 307 .
[21] Ibn Iraq Al Qinani , Tanzih Al Sharia Al Marfouaa an Al Akhbar Al Maoudouaa , vol 1 , p 408 .
تنزيه الشريعة المرفوعة لابن عراق الكناني ج1/ص 408 .
[22] Jalal udeen Al Suyuti , Al La alyi’ Al Masnouaa fi Al Ahadith Al Maoudouaa vol 1 , p 358 .
[23] Al Bayhaqi , Al Sunan Al Kubra  vol 1 , p 137 , N° 637 .
[24] Al Albani , Irwa’ Al Ghalil , vol 6 , p 213 .
[25] Al Dahabi ,  Mizan Al Itidal vol 6 , p 222 .
[26] Ibn Hajar Al Asqalani , Al Talkhis Al Habir vol 1 p 127 ,N° 169 .
[27]  Ibn Al Mulaqan , Al Badr Al Munir fi Takhrij Al Ahdith wa Al Athar Al Waqiaa fi Al Sharh Al Kabir  vol 2 , p 478 .
[28] Imam Nawawi , Al Majmou’ Sharh Al Muhadab vol 2 , p 54  .
[29] Ibn Abi Dunya , Al Iyal vol 1  , p 375 , N° 210 .
[30] Ibn Asaker ,  Tarikh Dimashq , vol 13 , p 222 .
[31] Tamam Al Razi , Al Fawaid , vol 1 , p 251 , N° 610 .
[32] Ibn Hajar Al Haithami ,Tuhfat Al Muhtaj fi sharh al minhaj  vol 7 , p 196  .
[33] Daraqoutni  , Al Duaffa’ w Al Matroukin p 206 , N° 609 .
[34] Ibn AL Jawzi ,  Al Duafaa wal Matroukin , vol 3 , p 218 , N° 3838  .
[35] Al  Dahabi , Al Mughni fi Al Duafaa , vol 2 , p 760 , N° 7219 .
[36] Al Dahabi , Mizan ul Itidal vol 7 , p 289 .
[37] Ibn Hajar , lisan Al Mizan vol 6 , p 316 , N° 1135  .
[38] Ibn Hajar , Tahdib Al Tahdib , vol 2 , p 131 , N° 256 .
[39] Al Ala’yi , Jamii’ Al tahsil , vol 1 , p 104  , N° 1
جامع التحصيل للعلائي ج1/ص104 رقم1
[40]  Al Ala’ii , Jamii’ Al tahsil , vol 1, p 141,N° 13 .
[41] Al Ala’i , Jamii’ Al tahsil ,vol 1 ,p 106  ,N° 13 .



Translated from
 
https://antishubohat.wordpress.com/2011/06/22/hassan_shubha/
and   http://www.4salaf.com/vb/showthread.php?t=1221
 
with modifications
 
Le Samedi 29 - 08 - 15
Al Hamdu Lilahi Rabi Al Alamin
 
 
Sunnah Is Revelation

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So bro Osama, please tell me what you think about this article soon and also if you find any problems here. Waiting for your reply! :)

Your brother in Islam,
Sadat Tahmeed

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Assalam.alykam he embraced him.to show he was not dreaming .  If you look.in the bible an angel wrestled with Jacob and broke his hip.  So what is worse breaking a hip.or a hug from.an angel?

Some says it was god himself which makes it even worse!  :P

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: ODIN AND DAJJAL!!!!!!!
« on: September 14, 2015, 12:00:52 PM »
All ancient deities alluded to Dajjal.. He has been awaited for centuries..

Horus is another example of Dajjal

Right you are akhi! And we all know who Horus is in the present world! So the Christians will immediately accept him as God when he comes on earth!

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