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« on: September 01, 2017, 02:47:40 PM »
1 Is absurd and stupid,
If A'isha R.A was 6 explain the historical maths
If we look at the undisputed, well-documented historical facts, we can immediately deduce that A’isha was NOT a child when she married the Prophet [pbuh]. She was actually 16 at the time of her betrothal (engagement) to the Prophet, and 19 when she married and moved in with him.
A chronological documentation of major events in A’isha’s life is as follows:
A’isha was born before Islam was revealed in 610, and accepted Islam shortly after it was revealed.
The Hijra occurred in 622
A’isha’s older sister (of 10 years), Asmaa, was 27 at the time of Hijra, making A’isha 17 at the time of Hijra.
A’isha was betrothed to the Prophet two years after the death of Khadijah, or a year before the Hijrah.
A’isha moved in with the Prophet a year or two after the Hijrah, or two to four years after her betrothal. (Various reports are unclear, but all agree as to the general time frame.)
A’isha was involved in the battles of Badr (624) and Uhud (625), in neither of which was anyone under the age of 15 allowed.
A’isha was widowed in 633
A’isha died in 672 at the age of 67. (We know that her older sister, Asmaa, died at the age of 100 in the year 695, which means she was 77 at the time of A’isha’s death.)
So again, based on the timeline above, we can conclude that A’isha was 16 at the time of her engagement to the Prophet [pbuh], and 19 when she married and moved in with him.
Now you will ask where did this come from?
All of the reports that say that A’isha was 6 at the time of her engagement, and 9 at the time of her marriage, come from Iraq.
Most of these reports come from Asmaa’s grandson, Hisham bin ‘Urwa (born in 683).
None of the reports come from Mecca or Medina, where Hisham bin ‘Urwa spent the first 70 years of his life.
Hisham spent the last 15 years of his life in Iraq, where all of the reports come from.
It is reported that as he became older, Hisham’s memory suffered quite badly.
When we look at this information, we learn some very interesting facts. Hisham bin ‘Urwa (who was born after A’isha died) spent the majority of his life in Madina, and yet no one else from Madina ever confirmed his reports about A’isha’s age at the time of her marriage.
One of Hisham’s most well known students was Malik ibn Anas, and even he objected on the narratives of Hisham which were reported by the people of Iraq.
So essentially what we’re dealing with here is a false hadith which was misreported by an elderly man with a bad memory. That’s understandable, but that brings us to the next question: Why wasn’t this hadith checked, double-checked, and triple-checked? Especially since it is included in Sahih Bukhari, the most widely accepted hadith collection!
Okay,now number 2
He is for all times,thats why A'isha R.A was 16
NOT 6 and now most countries marry at 16,infact this argument is again absurd,because the problem is he doesn't focus on the other wives,
he ignores them and uses biased explanation,
So if we were to see the age of his other wives we see there are many different examples NOT just A'isha R.A.
If A'isha R.A was 6 explain the historical maths
If we look at the undisputed, well-documented historical facts, we can immediately deduce that A’isha was NOT a child when she married the Prophet [pbuh]. She was actually 16 at the time of her betrothal (engagement) to the Prophet, and 19 when she married and moved in with him.
A chronological documentation of major events in A’isha’s life is as follows:
A’isha was born before Islam was revealed in 610, and accepted Islam shortly after it was revealed.
The Hijra occurred in 622
A’isha’s older sister (of 10 years), Asmaa, was 27 at the time of Hijra, making A’isha 17 at the time of Hijra.
A’isha was betrothed to the Prophet two years after the death of Khadijah, or a year before the Hijrah.
A’isha moved in with the Prophet a year or two after the Hijrah, or two to four years after her betrothal. (Various reports are unclear, but all agree as to the general time frame.)
A’isha was involved in the battles of Badr (624) and Uhud (625), in neither of which was anyone under the age of 15 allowed.
A’isha was widowed in 633
A’isha died in 672 at the age of 67. (We know that her older sister, Asmaa, died at the age of 100 in the year 695, which means she was 77 at the time of A’isha’s death.)
So again, based on the timeline above, we can conclude that A’isha was 16 at the time of her engagement to the Prophet [pbuh], and 19 when she married and moved in with him.
Now you will ask where did this come from?
All of the reports that say that A’isha was 6 at the time of her engagement, and 9 at the time of her marriage, come from Iraq.
Most of these reports come from Asmaa’s grandson, Hisham bin ‘Urwa (born in 683).
None of the reports come from Mecca or Medina, where Hisham bin ‘Urwa spent the first 70 years of his life.
Hisham spent the last 15 years of his life in Iraq, where all of the reports come from.
It is reported that as he became older, Hisham’s memory suffered quite badly.
When we look at this information, we learn some very interesting facts. Hisham bin ‘Urwa (who was born after A’isha died) spent the majority of his life in Madina, and yet no one else from Madina ever confirmed his reports about A’isha’s age at the time of her marriage.
One of Hisham’s most well known students was Malik ibn Anas, and even he objected on the narratives of Hisham which were reported by the people of Iraq.
So essentially what we’re dealing with here is a false hadith which was misreported by an elderly man with a bad memory. That’s understandable, but that brings us to the next question: Why wasn’t this hadith checked, double-checked, and triple-checked? Especially since it is included in Sahih Bukhari, the most widely accepted hadith collection!
Okay,now number 2
He is for all times,thats why A'isha R.A was 16
NOT 6 and now most countries marry at 16,infact this argument is again absurd,because the problem is he doesn't focus on the other wives,
he ignores them and uses biased explanation,
So if we were to see the age of his other wives we see there are many different examples NOT just A'isha R.A.