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NWO cleanse, Concerning the meaning of "Makka", i can see that Osama already responded to you a you said you'll have to consult an expert to check his claim....we'll have to wait for you i guess

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NWO cleanse, you claim about politicians changing the name from Bekka to Mecca and stuff....where are the proofs for that?  As far as AMuslimDude's reply is concerned, well if i were you i would have used the same response to him but i've got nothing to back it up....if you could bring some proofs it would be great for us....

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: John 10:30 & 1 Corinthians 3:8
« on: November 12, 2017, 11:41:23 PM »
Trinitarians can be funny eh?

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / John 10:30 & 1 Corinthians 3:8
« on: November 12, 2017, 11:37:25 PM »
Assalamualaikum,

John 10:30 New International Version (NIV)

"30 I and the Father are one."

1 Corinthians 3:5-8 NKJV

"5 Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers through whom you believed, as the Lord gave to each one? 6 I planted, Apollos watered, but God gave the increase. 7 So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase. 8 Now he who plants and he who waters ARE ONE...."

This is one more proof to prove that John 10:30 means Jesus and The Father are ONE in Purpose....the greek word used in 1 Corinthians 3:8 is ἕν(hen) which is EXACTLY the same one used in John 10:30....so basically what Paul meant is that he and Apollos were one in Purpose instead of being "literally one"...

In the NIV translation of 1 Corinthians 3:8 ἕν(Hen) is translated as "One purpose"...

"8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose"





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NWO cleanse, sorry for being rude yesterday by the way....

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: John 1:1
« on: November 12, 2017, 06:44:31 PM »
Juanita, okay, what do you want to talk about mate?

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NWO cleanse, you said that MuslimDude's points are already dealt with in the documentary then it won't be hard for you refute it by yourself right? I remember you implied that this website is intellectually stagnant, so it would be easy for an intellectually superior being like you to refute those points....

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By the way correct me if i'm wrong, isn't Mecca clearly mentioned in 48:24?

"....بِبَطۡنِ مَكَّةَ"

If that's not the case then what is the explanation for it?

Why don't you watch the documentary or read through the comments.

NWO cleanse, did you watch it before coming here? Of course you did....why don't you at least summarize the point then mate? Is that so hard?

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By the way correct me if i'm wrong, isn't Mecca clearly mentioned in 48:24?

"....بِبَطۡنِ مَكَّةَ"

If that's not the case then what is the explanation for it?

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NWO cleanse, we'll be waiting Professor Lazy...take your time...

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Intellectually stagnant? Says the guy who watched a video but can't even summarise the points...he's not a kid by the way, he's a teenager, such a pity you're ignoring his points, why don't you even try to refute it instead of asking him spending real money on a documentary? Come on Mr. Quranist, summarise the points...of course you won't do it, too lazy eh?

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AMuslimDude STOP THINKING. Watch the documentary or shut up.

Every atom of data is considered; safa, marwa, ptolemy, surah fil, masjid al-haram etc EVERYTHING. Dont ask me to do your research for you.

I don't understand you're telling him to do his own research when you're the one who started this discussion...how is that even logical? If you've watched the documentary then why don't you summarise the points? It's $2.99 on Amazone prime, i wonder if his parents would allow him to rent this documentary...

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NWO cleanse, you've watched the documentary right? Maybe you should summarise the points for him....how much does it cost by the way? I don't think AMuslimdude213 would be able to afford it, he's still a high school teenager as far as i know....

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NWO cleanse, you're simply rejecting their arguments without pointing out with which of the points you're in disagreement, if you really are confident like you're portraying then why don't you point out the mistakes and discuss about it? It would be a win-win situation because first of all if you succeed, you'll be able to "open our eyes" or if it is the other way around, we'll be able to "open" your's....

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I'm a total noob on this subject but i've found an article which may help...

http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2016/10/refuting-claim-petra-was-qibla-before.html?m=1

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