As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mendacium Remedium,
The following are your questions and my responses:
The mother of believers fought with Ali(may Allah be pleased with him) when he was a caliphah. Why are you picking on Muawiyah brother ?
The mother of the believers didn't fight Ali in the way that Shias think. All of the Muslims in the Madina gave their Bayaa (allegiance) to Caliph Ali. The problem emerged when Caliph Ali couldn't avenge from those who killed Caliph Uthman. The Muslims wanted to avenge, but Caliph Ali didn't want to have inner conflicts among Muslims, especially that the Muslims were fragile and the enemies from Roman empire and others were waiting for the right moment to move right back in.
Unfortunately, the Muslims in Madina got split among themselves over this very issue. Many of the most pious and righteous of the Believers in Madina split off from Ali and went to Iraq to do the job themselves. Caliph Ali followed them with his own troops. They ended up clashing in Iraq, in what became known as the Battle of Camel (of Aisha), because she at one point was on her camel and ended up right in the cener of the battle.
After the battle ended (Ali's army won), Ali sent Aisha back to Madina. He hired 20 female servants to serve her. And he always addressed her as
"O Mother....". When she was captured by him, he told her:
"You have done wrong, O Mother."THE SHIAS VS THE SUNNIS ON THIS ISSUE: The Shias claim that those who fought Ali were infidels, and they deserve to be cursed for Eternity for this. This is where you see them cursing the enemies of Ali in their prayers. But these Muslims weren't really Ali's enemies. And they did give him their allegiance and made him Caliph. The split didn't happen because they left Islam. The split happened because they wanted to avenge for the murder of Caliph Uthman.
The shias' hate and exagerrations are just too ridiculous! But this is what you can expect from such idol worshipers and polytheists who seek mere creations (Ali and the rest of Ahlul Bayt), in Prayer, for:
1- Guidance.
2- Mercy.
3- Forgiveness.
4- Protection.Such polytheists do not represent Ali and the rest of Ahlul Bayt. Ahlul Bayt are all innocent from the wicked and blasphemous Shias.
So why was Caliph Uthman was killed:Caliph Uthman burnt as you know that false qurans. The Glorious Quran that we have today was the one that the top Quranic Scholars of Uthman's time compiled and copied by hand. There were mixes between wrong verses, Hadiths mistaken for Quranic-verses, Biblical sayings and verses mistaken for Quranic verses and other quotations floating around. This was one of the main reasons why the Glorious Quran was Compiled and Copied, and all of the other copies were burnt.
Some Muslims didn't like this, and they charged Caliph Uthman with burning real Qurans. But these were not real Noble Quranic Verses. They were mix ups, and the top Quranic Scholars and Committee went through this painstaking task to determine which Verse is valid and which isn't.
Caliph Uthman was assasinated for this reason. They marched down on him from Iraq with close to 20,000 soldiers to Madina and killed him. The Muslims' army was scattered at the time between Rome's and Persia's and also Africa's lands. It was wide open.
This is where the nonsense about the Glorious Quran being corrupt comes from. But when we look at the Glorious Quran's
Overwhelming Scientific Miracles, and Allah Almighty's Divine Promise to protect
Its Compilation and proper Recitation, then we have ample evidence to believe that the Glorious Quran was perfectly preserved:
"It is upon Us to collect and compile it (i.e., the Quran) and to promulgate it: (The Noble Quran, 75:17)""We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly Guard it (from corruption). (The Noble Quran, 15:9)"All other claims are empty nonsense. Claims about missing Surahs, and missing verses that the narrators didn't even give the text of a single verse from those so-called missing Surahs and missing verses
only shows how empty those claims are.
Do we have hadiths of Muhammed pbuh saying 'when i die, here is how you should choose' or 'if i die, then this will be your leader' ?
This is another lie from Hell that the blasphemous and polytheist and idol worshiping Shias fabricated. The Prophet didn't have to give a will for anyone to rule after him, nor was he obligated to give a will, nor is Islam concerned about such a thing.
Allah Almighty made Democracy and Voting very clear in the Glorious Quran:
"Those who hearken to their Lord, and establish regular Prayer; who (conduct) their affairs by mutual Consultation; who spend out of what We bestow on them for Sustenance; (The Noble Quran, 42:38)"The Muslims did choose Abu Bakr to be the first Islamic Caliph after the Prophet died. That's it. The idol-worshing shias don't like a simple and plain Islam. Most of them are enemies from outside who really want to defile Islam and cause doubts in It. Their hearts are filled with hate and jealousy from the Mainstream Muslims. Plus, their leaders have been proven to be zionist agents.
More ironically about the polytheist shias is that their zionist agents (scholars) ARE NOT EVEN REQUIRED to be scholars of the Quran! Any hogwash zionist with money and influence can become a scholar in the shia religion. It is a religion of blasphemies, idol worship, and polytheism, - glorification and idolozing of mere creations and praying to them for:
1- Guidance.
2- Mercy.
3- Forgiveness.
4- Protection.I think we need to start a new sect inbetween shia and sunni Islam.
Yazid(l) (i'm sure we both agree he was the biggest tyrant ) ruthlessly Murdered Hussain (may Allah be pleased with him) the Grandson of Muhammed pbuh?
Ali, Hassan,Hussein - all killed.
The son of Hussain, killed.
The son of him , killed.
We do not need to start any sect. The killings that you mentioned were Caliph Ali's battles in Iraq. Caliph Ali's ranks were divided, and he was killed by his own former soldiers. His older son was poisoned.
As to Hussein, he was in Madina, and the people of Madina (those whom the shias declare infidels) advised him to not go to Iraq, because they will betray him as they did with his father and older brother. He didn't listen, and he too was killed.
Jaffer Sadiq (may Allah be pleased with him) murdered as well:
Scholars believed to have learned extensively from Ja'far Al-Sadiq:
Jābir ibn Hayyān – known in Europe as Geber, a great alchemist.[31]
Musa al-Kadhim – his son, the seventh Shi’ah Imam according to the Twelvers
Isma'il ibn Jafar – his son, the sixth Ismaili Imam according to the Ismailis.
Ali al-Uraidhi ibn Ja'far al-Sadiq- his youngest son.
Mufadhal ibn Amr- his Gate keeper and a prominent student.
Sunni scholars Abū Ḥanīfa and Malik ibn Anas worked with Qasim ibn Muhammad ibn Abu Bakr, Hisham ibn Urwah, Salim ibn Abd-Allah, Zayd ibn Ali, Ja'far Al-Sadiq and Muhammad al-Baqir
Abū Ḥanīfa - founder of Hanafi school of thought.
Malik ibn Anas – founder of the Maliki school of thought.
He taught all of these men, yet very few scholars refer to him? He taught two of the major Imams in the Ahle Sunnah wal-jamaat school of thought, yet very few of his scholarly works are at all referred to?
All of the Shias' books today were written 100s of years after the original scholars. The narrations that the shias have on Imam Ja'far Al-Sadiq are all unreliable. Like I mentioned before, the shia's scriptures were written at least 200 years years after OUR SAHIH BUKHARI AND SAHIH MUSLIM Hadiths. And those Hadith volumes of ours were compiled 300 years after the Prophet. Our books' sources though contain many Hadiths that are traceable to original sources.
NONE OF THE SHIAS' HADITHS are traceable to any original source! They are like the Bible's verses. They're just there. No chain of narrations to the original source.
Nothing makes sense anymore. Do you not see how politics has wrecked this all ? People crave for power, forget Islam, kill the true muslims, distort the message.
Come back to Mainstream Islam. Why are you with a deviant cult? And politics are irrelevant here. I know that the shias' polytheistic religion is based on the politics of the old days when a conflict broke out over Uthman's death. This is how they justify their:
1- Constant curses to the Companions of the Prophet, peace be upon him and them.
2- Beating themselves with swords, knives, rocks and shoes. They even beat their own little children (the shias beat their own children that is).
To us real Muslims, those poltics are long gone, and they are irrelevant to us today, because they are not part of Islam. As Allah Almighty Commanded us to never dwell into the dramas of the people before us:
[002:134] That was a people that hath passed away. They shall reap the fruit of what they did, and ye of what ye do! Of their merits there is no question in your case!Please visit this link to see how I have thoroughly destroyed the shia satanic religion in this thorough debate that I had with a shia here on this board:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,561.msg2867.html#msg2867It is clear that Shiism is not Islam. All Shias are required to disown this dangerous cult. Leave this satanic idol worship and zionist agency, and come back to the True and Real Islam.
I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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