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2071
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Muslim Commendatory of the Bible
« on: November 28, 2013, 02:51:31 PM »
Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Welcome to the team, dear brother Syed.  May Allah Almighty bless you for your efforts.  Ameen.  Feel free to post the contents of your book here, akhi.  All I am seeing from your link is the book's front page with little commentary.  I look forward to seeing the contents, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2072
As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Husada,

Welcome to the blog akhi.  I ask Allah Almighty to help  you find all of your answers here, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  Ameen.

Sorry for taking long to reply.  I almost missed your post.  I've discussed this in details during my debates at:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_the_bible_the_true_word_of_god_june_16_2013.wmv

http://www.answering-christianity.com/does_muhammad_exist_in_the_bible_june_16_2013.wmv

http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_jesus_the_god_man_debate_june_15_2013.wmv

As to the close-to-the-Law that I extracted from the Bible, it was from the five books of Moses, peace be upon him.  I made it unavailable, because I needed to investigate many things.  I will make it available when possible, Insha'Allah.  But list of Commands would not be Absolute Divine Revelations like the Holy Quran.  I want to make this clear, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2073
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: SAUDI CRUELTY
« on: November 28, 2013, 10:43:35 AM »
I also feel the same as you brother. I'm sure their (cruel Saudis') days will also come when they will cry for mercy. That day even their Zionist friends won't be able to save them.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

I have given the following reply in the link that was given above:

@Namelee. You are another Islam-hating polytheist Trinitarian pagan and fool. Read your Bible first before you bark about child brides being married to much much older men. Even Mary, peace be upon her, -- the mother of your god -, was married to 99-year old Joseph when she was as young as 11 or 12. Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/aisha.htm to see the proofs from the Catholic Encyclopedia.

Another point worth mentioning is that there are many shias in these camps. Shias are heretic muslims, and they do practice this. And even if Sunnis did it, this still doesn't prove a thing. They're either low, or they've married off their daughters to really good men, IN PERMANENT MARRIAGES as the Holy Quran Commands. Visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/minimum_age_for_marriage.htm

http://www.answering-christianity.com/was_muta_immoral.htm

http://www.answering-christianity.com/muta.htm

At the end of the day, it was the girls' parents that gave them off to marriages. So it's the parents to hold responsible. Also, the numbers of these incidents are little. It's not like it's being done on a massive scale.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2074
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Confusion!!!!
« on: November 28, 2013, 08:41:55 AM »
And the moon darkens.(75: 8 )

  And the sun and the moon are joined,(75:9)

 Can anyone explain the above verses? Why Allah says that the moon and the sun will be joined? As sun is much bigger than the moon , it should swallow it not get joined with it. I'm confused. I have read some articles where they say that through these verses Allah says that Sun will swallow the Moon before the Final Hour. But the verse uses ''JOINED'' not ''SWALLOWED''. Or is it talking about Solar eclipse? If so then the translation might me wrong.

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Here are the Noble Verses:

‏75:7 فاذا برق البصر
‏75:8 وخسف القمر
‏75:9 وجمع الشمس والقمر
‏75:10 يقول الانسان يومئذ اين المفر

[075:007]  At length, when the sight is dazed,
[075:008]  And the moon is buried in darkness.
[075:009]  And the sun and moon are joined together,-
[075:010]  That Day will Man say: "Where is the refuge?"


I believe this is a Prophecy about a Great Eclipse that will take place.  This actually makes sense, since when the Hour Comes, the Universe's orbits' path will turn into a spegetti mess on a massive scale, and all celestial bodies will be colliding violently with each others.  So it makes sense that:

1-  Our atmosphere will change, and hence it will greatly effect our visions, since the sun rays are all magnified and become glorious, as we know them, through our atmosphere as Allah Almighty mentioned clearly in the Glorious Quran:

‏91:1 والشمس وضحاها 
‏91:2 والقمر اذا تلاها
‏91:3 والنهار اذا جلاها 

"By the sun and its radiant light, and the moon that trails (and reflects) its light. By the day that magnifies and glorifies (جلاها) its brightness.  (The Noble Quran, 91:1-3)"
 
Please visit: http://www.quransearch.com/sun_rays_miracle.htm


Lunar Eclipses do blur and permanently damage the eye's cornea:

The following pictures certainly prove the points above.  Another point worth mentioning is that when the Hour Comes, the sun's rays might be much much more than what they already are today.  There are several Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran that indicate that this will actually happen:

http://www.quransearch.com/water_shall_vanish.htm
http://www.quransearch.com/galaxy_explosion.htm
http://www.quransearch.com/end_of_times_volcanoes_caused_by_stretching_of_earth.htm
http://www.quransearch.com/ac20.htm#links



In the case, the lunar eclipse would be far greater than what it appears to be in the following pictures:







When watching the lunar eclipse outside, special Eye Shields are required to prevent blindness and/or permanent eye damages, especially to the cornea:






2-  Because of the chaos in the orbits, our solar system's orbits will also go in chaos, and hence the sun's and the moon's orbits will cross each others, and an eclipse will occur as a result.

3-  When the events in point #2 happen, then the sky will darken and the moon will be buried in darkness.

Great question dear brother, Farhan!  I will add this on the website with more elaborations, Insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2075
Assalam alykam

this was said to me after i showed him his  old dawah videos as a dawah here is one of them http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2UcyFUgTYo

here is what he said

He was a spiritual dead sinner hiding behind religion, I would never want to be under that spiritual oppression ever again Jesus Christ has set me free, I now have eternal life flowing within my heart. Salvation is only found in this person Jesus not any any of these religions. If you die without knowing this person and that person knowing  you are damned for eternity.

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Funny how when we read what comes out of the Lord Jesus Christ's mouth himself (Peace and Blessings and Mercy of GOD Almighty be upon him), we see contrary to what this guy said.  Jesus Christ was personally asked the most important question in life:  What shall I do that I may win Eternal Life?

Let us read Matthew 19:16-21.  The link gives you all of Matthew 19 for more comprehensive reading:

Matthew 19
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
18 He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
19 Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
20 The young man saith unto him, All these things have I kept from my youth up: what lack I yet?
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.



If trinity is true, then Jesus has lied 3 times here:

1-  If Jesus was our Creator, then Jesus has lied when he said no one is Good except GOD Alone; denying that he himself is as Good as GOD Almighty.  Not that the man meant to call Jesus as the Creator of the Universe, when he called him "Good Master", but Jesus' answer clearly made it clear and indisputable that Jesus is not the Creator of the Universe, nor is he as Good as GOD Almighty.

2-  If Jesus was our Creator, then Jesus has lied when he said that in order to win Eternal Life you must keep the Commandments, since he supposedly has come down to earth to die for our sins; a man-made lie that is thoroughly proven to be false even from the very Bible itself.  Please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

3-  If Jesus was our Creator, then Jesus has lied when he supposedly inspired Paul to say that the Moses Law alone will bring you curse, because he answered the man in Matthew 19 by telling him to keep the commandments, and that they are sufficient to win him Eternal Life.  Paul completely rejected that.  Here is what Paul said:

Galatians 3:10-12
10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: "Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law."
11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because "the righteous will live by faith."
12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, "The person who does these things will live by them."


So trinity belongs to the garbage, and it will lead you to Eternal Doom, because it is a war and a blasphemy against GOD Almighty.  And the Bible is corrupt.  What agrees with Islam in it, we take as closest to the Truth, but not absolute Truth.  And what disagrees with Islam belongs to the garbage.  Please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/q_only_god_good_rebuttal.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

Islam came to restore the Original Faith of GOD Almighty to mankind.  Please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/purpose.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2076
the pale (

I have no idea what it means, dear brother.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2077
As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

I acquired the following domains:

www.AlarabiyaAlhadath.com
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Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2078
Assalam alykam here a ex muslim says this to me who is now a christian

i know he is a real ex muslim i have seen  dawah videos of his

he says this about ALlah

I still believe the Lord is one, one in Deut 4 is not a number it means unity a unity of compounds echad, just like ahad in Arabic is not the number one it means unity. Allah according to the Quran and Sunnah is a compound unity! If you want to be logical consistent you have to reject Allah of the Quran also.

what do we say to this

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

The Bible speaks about the 7 Spirits of GOD Almighty.  If GOD Almighty is a Compound One, then this still doesn't prove trinity.  In Islam, there is:

1-  Allah Almighty.
2-  The World of Command.
3-  The World of Creation.

And one of those 7 Spirits is the "Spirit of Fearing GOD", which was put in Jesus Christ.  This is in the Bible.  I've gone through this in great details during my debate on the trinity at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_jesus_the_god_man_debate_june_15_2013.wmv.

Also visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links to see thorough refutations to the trinity blasphemy.

As to Ahad, the Word in Arabic doesn't mean compound one.  It means absolute one:

"Say: He is God, the One and Only (Ahad); God, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.  (The Noble Quran, 112:1-4)"

Also in Arabic, Ahad is used for an absolute one.  You would say for example:

1-  "I won't speak with anyone (ahad) today" - لن أكلم أحد اليوم

2-  "No one (ahad) has come" - لم يأتي أحد

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2079
Assalam alykam brother how are you i need help refuting this n the end times, when the pale (

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Your post was cut.  Can you please repost it?

Your brother,
Osama Abdallah

2080
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: refuting 1 John 2:18-27
« on: November 24, 2013, 01:29:59 PM »
ASSALAM ALYKAM

when ever i am in  a debate christians always quote me this

1 John 2:18-27
English Standard Version (ESV)
Warning Concerning Antichrists

18 Children, it is the last hour, and as you have heard that antichrist is coming, so now many antichrists have come. Therefore we know that it is the last hour. 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us. But they went out, that it might become plain that they all are not of us. 20 But you have been anointed by the Holy One, and you all have knowledge.[a] 21 I write to you, not because you do not know the truth, but because you know it, and because no lie is of the truth. 22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. 23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. 24 Let what you heard from the beginning abide in you. If what you heard from the beginning abides in you, then you too will abide in the Son and in the Father. 25 And this is the promise that he made to us

Does Muhammad (pbuh) deny Jesus being the messiah?

Does the prophet Muhammad deny the existence of God and God's servant Jesus?

As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

Notice here how Messiah was defined by the author of the 1 John book to be "Father and Son".  Islam does not deny that Jesus is the Christ, nor does the Holy Quran deny that the Jews and Christians were called sons of GOD.  The problem is that, like every exaggerated religion out there, the "Son of GOD" title became ridicoulous over-blown.  This is one of the many things that Islam came to straighten out from the corruption of the Jews and Christians.

Son of GOD in the Bible means Servant of GOD.  This is a fact that no Jew or Christian could deny.  And the Servant is not just any servant.  He is a servant "raised to Honor" as the Holy Quran puts it.  That's what son of GOD means.  Taking it beyond this is bordering polytheism and blasphemy.  Please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm

Similarly, in Judaism, Idolatry is considered Spiritual Adultery against GOD Almighty.  Now I want you to think about this for a second.  Are we married to Allah Almighty?  Absolutely not.  Yet, it is considered spiritual adultery?  Similarly, if you take this beyond metaphor, and start speaking nonsense about you are married with GOD Almighty, then you would be bordering blasphemy.

The liar in the 1 John verses, and I am not saying that they are divine or original or authentic in anyway, is one who denies Jesus is the Messiah.  We do not deny that Jesus is the Messiah.  Therefore, this title would not apply to us.  But the title is messed up anyway.  How could you be a liar even if you don't believe Jesus was the Messiah??  Again, another metaphor that doesn't mean anything actual.  What is it that you're lying about??  It's like one saying if you're not hindu, then you're a thief!  What kind of a stupid statement is that??

Again, Islam came to fix this stupidity and put an end to it.  The blasphemies and stupidity stop with Islam!  That's the bottom line, my beloveds.

And last and not least, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm.  In this article, you'll see that the books of John:

1-  Were written by unknown people.
2-  Do contain alterations and man-made injections in them.
3-  Were written by an unknown number of men.
4-  Were written in unknown places.
5-  Were written in unknown dates.

Here is an example:

We find even more alarming troubles with the Gospel of John itself.  Since Christians believe that the writer of the gospel of John is the same one as the one who wrote 1 John, then it is important to point out the following absurdity in the authenticity of this gospel from its last and concluding chapter:

John 21:24-25
24 This is the disciple (WHICH DISCIPLE??  WHAT IS HIS NAME??) who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true (HOW DO YOU KNOW??  DID YOU EVEN MEET HIM IN PERSON??)
25 Jesus did many other things as well. If every one of them were written down, I suppose that even the whole world would not have room for the books that would be written.


Many have doubted that John even wrote the entire book:

"Many scholars of the past two centuries have denied that John wrote this book, partly because of their belief that the author fabricated many details such as the miracles and the discourses of Jesus.  (The Holman Illustrated Study Bible, ISBN: 978-1-58640-275-4, Gospel of John, Page1540)"

For ample more quotes from several other Bible commentaries, again, please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm.

Now here is some analysis:

"We know that his testimony is true"?!

Wasn't the disciple John the one who supposedly wrote the gospel of John?  How can he say about himself that "we know that his (the author) testimony is true"?!  Isn't this a clear and indisputable proof that the book was written by an unknown person?

I hope this helps, insha'Allah. 


Osama Abdallah's Post:

And by the way, I know that what I just wrote was actually all written by mclinkin94, because somebody had just told me so!  I know it.  Don't question it!  I was just told that the post wasn't written by me!  Even if it has my name on it, and was written using my account.  It doesn't matter.  mclinkin94 wrote it.  I was just told that.  I don't remember if whether I actually wrote it or not.  But I know whoever wrote it, his testimony is true.  Somebody told me so.

Now of course, brother mclinkin94 didn't write my post.  But the point I am making here is that with this statement uttered by Osama Abdallah, do you see just how stupid and incompetent, and even a liar (if not mentally retarded), Osama Abdallah is??  This is all hypothetical of course :).

This kind of lies and retardedness and stupidity exist by the bulk in the Bible!

Everyone is supposedly inspired by GOD Almighty in the Bible, and all of their words are Divine Revelations.  Yet, we find fights among the disciples, where Peter and other disciples were called "clearly in the wrong", and Paul was called a "false apostle" by several of the disciples and believers.  I've went through this in my debate at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/is_the_bible_the_true_word_of_god_june_16_2013.wmv.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2081
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Confusion!!!!
« on: November 24, 2013, 11:34:21 AM »
'' It is not allowable for the sun to reach the moon, nor does the night overtake the day, but each, in an orbit, is swimming.''(36:40)


As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

People were asking the Prophet, peace be upon him, if the sun and the moon were ever going to collide.  The people thought that the sun and the moon were both running on one lane or line or orbit or path, and that they're together, and that if one slows down, then the other would catch up to it and they'd ultimately collideAllah Almighty responded to this nonsense by making it absolutely clear that the sun and the moon are traveling in entirely different orbits, and that they could not catch up to each others and collide.  So what the empty anti-Islamics of today try to prove as a scientific blunder in the Holy Quran turns out to be an accurate Scientific Statement and a Scientific Miracle of its time.

Also,  the Holy Quran Said that the moon's orbit is S-Shaped.  Allah Almighty never said the same about the sun's orbit.

Enbiya/33
It is He Who created the Night and the Day, and the sun and the moon: all (of them) swim in an orbit.


Same exact reponse as above.  Yes, they're not on the same orbit.  This is Scientifically estabilished.  And again, the Holy Quran Said that the moon's orbit is S-Shaped.  Allah Almighty never said the same about the sun's orbit.

Okay in some articles it is said that the above verses are talking about the motion of everything including sun,moon,earth,planets and stars. But how? Because the verses only mention sun, moon and earth? If I say Ibrahim and Ali, Sami and Abdel, Ahmad and Uthman everyone is a good player or all are good players will it imply also the people whose names are unmentioned?  Can anyone explain this in detail?

And does Quran say anything about earth's motion around the Sun? And Moon's motion around the earth?

Allah Almighty started the Noble Verse with speaking only about the sun and the moon, and the night and the day.  But ended it by saying ALL swimming in their independent orbits.  This is referring here to all celestial bodies in the Universe.  This is further clearly proven in other Noble Verses where Allah Almighty talking about the orbits of the celestial bodies, and how once in space, traveling becomes in orbits.  Please visit the following video of Dr. Zaghloul Al-Najjar.  He thoroughly and beautifully explained this beautiful Miracle in the Holy Quran with ample examples and details:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/day_layer_reveals_the_sun_brightness.wmv

All celestial bodies are يعرجون Yaa'rujoon (traveling in orbits) in space.  The video in the link speaks about the countless orbits in the Universe, and the day-layer reveals the sun's brightness.  This video is about Noble Verses 32:5, 34:2, 57:4, 70:3-4 and others, and the Arabic words عرج , عروج , معارج  and  معراج  that all refer to "going in an orbital and curvy path" in the Glorious Quran and our Islamic Texts.

Also visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/seas_dont_mix_and_orbit_of_earth_in_noble_quran.wmv
http://www.answering-christianity.com/motion_of_earth.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/orbits.wmv
http://www.answering-christianity.com/precise_prophecy_about_traveling_up_to_space_in_noble_quran.wmv (by Sheikh Yusuf Estes)
http://www.answering-christianity.com/the_earth_like_a_cradle.wmv
http://www.answering-christianity.com/sun_orbit.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/allah_and_science.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/moon_orbit_miracle.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/daylight_and_moon_miracle.wmv
http://www.answering-christianity.com/skin_day_from_night_miracle.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/sun_rays_miracle.htm

And the main section on overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Holy Quran, on this website, please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

I will update the text-articles with this response today, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2083
Assalam alykam

A christian missionary told me to compare Jesus and Muhammad

he said  look at the life they both lived and you will see which one is holly which one is not

they say Muhammad had sex with many women ect ect  while Jesus refrained

and Muhammad killed ect ect while Jesus did not

and all this other crap they try to pin on Muhammad

what is the best way to respond

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

Tell the polytheist trinitarian pagan the following:

1-  Tell him that while all of Muhammad's wars that he declared on idolatry caused less than 3,000 deaths from both the Muslims and the infidels' sides combined, Jesus' future End of Time wars on earth will cause millions, if not billions, of deaths.

2-  Tell him that even according to the very Bible that he believes in, Prophet Muhammad, the Prophet of "Arabia", will come and:

(a)-  Destroy all of the idols in Arabia.
(b)-  Put the pagans to the sword.
(c)-  Spread GOD Almighty's Divine Truth, Islam, to mankind.

For ample Biblical references, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

3-  As to "sex with women", if they call legal marriage with women, and having sex with his lawful "Right Hand Possessions" (female captive of wars from his share of the spoils of wars) a sin, then that's their problem.  They should look into the Bible's Old Testament to make worse judgments then.  In the OT, children were slaughtered and also raped:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links

4-  As to Christ never had sex with any woman, this is not proven.  Outside the Bible, there are manuscripts that talk about Christ loved Mary Magdalene, and even kissed her on the mouth (in the Gospel of Philips; one of Jesus' disciples).  There are even writings about him married.  In the current Bible, very very little is mentioned about Jesus' life.  We only know that he was born, fled to Egypt when he was a boy because King Herod wanted to kill him, and then began his ministry when he was an adult.  And the quotes that we have of Jesus in the NT are less than a column and a half of news paper's column.  So the NT is almost silent about Jesus' life.

5-  And last and not least, how does the missionary know that when Christ returns and slaughters billions of infidels on earth that he:

(a)-  Will not take female spoils of wars to himself, like GOD Almighty Commanded the Prophets and the Believers in the Old Testament.
(b)-  Will not marry women.

Can the polytheist trinitarian pagan give any guarantee on this?  I challenge him to do so.  The enemies of Islam are empty.  Again, please visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links

May Allah Almighty's Peace, Mercy and Blessings be upon both Prophets Jesus and Muhammad.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2084
Assalam alykam

christians will say this is temple of solomon

I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.  (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 138:2)"

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

Islam came to restore the Original Faith.  And in this precious Faith is the practice of bowing down to Allah Almighty as Muslims exactly do today on regular basis.

And as to the Temple in the verse that you quoted above, there are ample proofs that it is about the Kaaba.  But regardless, it can be both the Kaaba and the Temple of Solomon, since both would be legitimate Places of Worship.  But like I said, there are ample and thorough Biblical passages that clearly demonstrate that Islam is the Divine Truth, and that Prophet Muhammad, - peace be upon him, -was clearly prophesied in the Old Scriptures.  For the proofs, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

2085
GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: An advice to mclinkin94
« on: November 21, 2013, 12:26:35 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

While it is great for all of us to interact with one another, and while it is healthy to disagree, but we should not pass the line of fitnah.  If fitnah seems to emerge then it becomes a duty for the Muslims to work on putting it out.  This also goes for treatment towards the disbelievers as well.

All I wanted to say is this:  If you guys want me to freeze this thread, then I can do so.  I won't interfere unless the brotherhood is being compromised.  We're all adults here, and we're all brothers and sisters in Islam.  Just please keep in mind that at the end of the day, we are Believers.  Personally, I don't agree at all with the claim that we, humans, originated from animals.  Man is a different creation, and is a newer creation, relatively speaking.  Now, if a brother or sister insists that we evolved from animals, and they feel very strongly about it, and they feel that they have strong proofs from the Holy Quran to back their claim up, then I'll just have to agree to disagree with him/her.  The reason is because his/her view isn't a threat to any of Islam's Pillars.  It's a side and minor point.  So whether I am right or wrong on it, it's minor.  The same with the brother or sister.

This is my input.  May Allah Almighty bless you all.  Ameen.

Your brother,
Osama Abdallah

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