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Assalam-u-alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh,

I was going through the site 'islamic-awareness's 'islamic coins' section and noticed some important facts about the star-crescent emblem. For brothers and sisters who don't know about this, I hope it will be helpful Insh'Allah.

This emblem existed in the pre-islamic ages, specially during the sassanian empre it was widely used. When the Muslims conquered persia, sassanian empire ended but their coin containing the symbol and the face of sassanian emperor Yazdgrid three, WHO WAS A ZOROASTRIAN. Here is te coin's picture taken from
http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Coins/drachm30.html.



Notice the crescent and star symbol at the top of the emperor's head. The coin existed the same even after muslim conquest, though the governors inserted Allah's Holy Name in the coin. See the picture of the coin during the reign of the fifth caliph Muawiya ibn Abu Sufian (R).



Look carefully. Do you see the writing-Bism Allah (In the Name of God) in the right lower corner? But the crescent-star symbol and the pagan emperor's portrait are right in their places!

So a question rises here. How can Muawiya (R), a close companion of the Prophet SAW, allow this coin with a pagan symbol and someone's portrait which is strictly prohibited??

Personally I don't hate Muawiya (R) 'cause I'M NOT A SHIA OR A KHARIZI. In fact I don't like to criticize any of the Prophet's SAW companions. But I do admit he made some mistakes as he was also a human like others (we don't worship the sahabas as the trinitians worship the disciples). And so by the term 'KHULAFA-E-RASHIDIN' (Rightly guided caliphs) I and most people understand Abu bakr, Umar. Usman and Ali (R).

And while critisizing a close companion of the Prophet SAW, we must judge things logically and rationally. Muawiyah R couldn't change the coin in a blink of an eye even if he wanted to. Read the foloowing from http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Coins/  and notice the bold writings.

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After the Muslims defeated the armies of Byzantine and Sassanian empires, there came the need to administer the conquered territories. The early Muslim from Arabia did not have a sophisticated system like that of the two defeated empires. So, the best recourse for them was to maintain the existing administrative systems just like other conquerers before and after them did.  However, the early Muslims inherited two different administrative systems from the conquered two empires. Hence they had to maintain two parallel administrative systems one in the east and another in the west, which differed in their languages, culture, monetary systems and controls. The Muslims maintained these parallel systems for over 50 years until the reforms of the Umayyad caliph al-Malik.

Before the reforms of al-Malik, the Muslims used the existing MONETARY SYSTEMS of their Sassanian and the Byzantine predecessors.
There is a
debate concerning the earliest coinage and their dating. Some argue that Muslims started striking coinage almost immediately as they did in the former Sassanian domain. Other argue that the Muslims did not strike coins in the former Byzantine realms until the reign of al-Malik. However, the middle ground appears to be more appropriate as the the coinage of the era before the advent of al-Malik was very complex. At some point in time, both in the east and in the west, the Islamic empire started to make its presence known via the coins that circulated in their domains. Initially, the changes were very MINOR with the addition of short phrases in Arabic and/or the addition of hijra dates. These lasted until a complete reform of the administrative system by al-Malik who united it in Arabic and changed the coinage drastically to what we essentially call as ISLAMIC COINS.

It is not easy to suddenly change the coinage system of a vast empire, almost impossible.

But still, whoever inserted Allah's name in the coin could at least give the Name a place in the top AS I REALLY REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE/SUPPORT KEEPING A PAGAN SYMBOL ON THE TOP AND A PORTRAIT OF A ZOROASTRIAN EMPEROR IN THE MIDDLE WHILE THROWING OFF ALLAH'S NAME IN THE LOWER CORNER.

The coin of Abd al-Malik ibn AbdAllah, zubayrid governor of Bishapur, also had the name of the Prophet, (which is the earliest occurance of the name Muhammad in a dated Muslim text), but still in the lower left corner!! See yourselves.



And brothers I think this is how the pagan emblem started to enter Islam slowly. Later the Turks adopted this symbol from the persians and finally it became a worldwide emblem for Islam.

Well in this case, thanks to Muawiya's (R) son Yazid (only for this reason, not for his other works!) as he removed Allah's name from the gathering of pagan marks! (ie the crescent-star symbol and the portrait) At least he didn't mix Allah's name with those things! This is his coin:



Finaly, umayyad caliph Abd al-Malik ibn Marwan completely removed the coin with the pagan symbol and started a new and truly ISLAMIC COIN. May Allah bless him for this work. See his dinar (gold coin) and dirham (silver coin).





May Allah bless the muslim ummah and save us from shirk, kufr and bidat.

And Allah knows best...
Tahmeed

Main source: http://www.islamic-awareness.org/History/Islam/Coins/

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Assalamu alaikum dear brother submit,

Look, when people like david wood say: there is 0 proof of naming people after pious persons existed in 1st century israel.


Maybe his logic is saying that  Israelites with the name Johns/Yuhanans that came before John of Zecharia are all non pious. John of Zecharia is the first and only pious of all Johns out there.

If that's his logic, he missed the point.

Look at the line brother TDRTB bolded.
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“ There is no one among your relatives who is
called by this name.”

It means their tradition was to name someone after the name of any famous or pious name in the family. So naming someone John would be out of the tradition, as none existed having that name. That was their complaint.

Peace....
Tahmeed

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Islam in the Bible
« on: April 17, 2015, 10:54:09 PM »
Assalamu alaikum brother Osama,

Do you have any detail article on 'Islam in the Bible' on the main site? I am having troubles finding it. Please help. :)

The thing is I just read this verse and am very excited.

[Jeremiah28:9] As for the Prophet who prophesies of Shalom (!), when the word of the prophet comes to pass, the Prophet will be kbown as whom the Lord has truly sent!

This verse doesn't only prove that Islam is the religion of all prophets (to understand this, read the preious verse) but also proves that Muhammad PBUH was a true prophet!

The clever translators always tranlate the word Shalom as 'peace'. So it's very hard to notice this amazing thing!

Glory to Allah and His true religion

Tahmeed

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Wa laikumus Salam dear theydontreadthebible, and welcome to the board. :)

That's a really good point. JajakAllahu Khair.

Check this out too:

[1 Chronicles 6:18] The sons of Ezrah were Jether, Mered, Epher and Jalon. And Mered's wife bore MIRIAM, Shammai, and Ishbah the father of Eshtemoa.

Most probabily Mered named his daughter after Miriam the sister of Moses.

For people who think that Mary's (mother of christ) having a father named Imran and a brother named Harun or Aaron make her the sister of moses, I have a problem too.

See Matthew 1:16.

And JACOB begot JOSEPH the husband of Mary......

We know prophet Jacob was the father of prophet Joseph too!! (pbut) Not only this. Notice that Joseph the husband of Mary left the holy land and went to Egypt, prophet Joseph did this too! Both took their families there !!

Is this enough to proof that this Joseph is Joseph the prophet? NOO!

Imran saw that he had the name of a pious man (the father of moses), so he named his children after the names of that pious man's children (Aaron and Mary).

If the AUTHOR of the Quran thought that Christ's mother was the sister of Aaron and Moses, He wouldn't write 'O sister of Harun', rather, it would be, 'O sister of Musa', as to Israelites, Moses was a lot more important than Harun (see exodus 7:1). It's common sense! [And by the way the author is Allah!]

Another question rises here. If Imran wanted to name his children after the names of Amram's children, why did he named his son (if Mary literally had a brother named Aaron) Aaron instead of Moses? As Moses was also Amram's son and he was more important than Aaron as I have said. ??? ???

Answer is simple. How many muslims name their children Muhammad? Some may add the name as they are muslims, but that's not their real name. I would like to quote something from brother Mohammed.Rashid's post. (Bro Rashid please don't mind :)) )

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One more thing my name is Rashid not Mohammed. :)

See? There is also a hadith where a sahabi wants to name his son Kasim, and other sahabas forbid him daying, "We can't call you Abul Kasim (as this was one of the prophet's names)". Unfortunately I can't provide the reference :(.

Actually we consider his name very holy, as he is the most important prophet for us. The same case with Musa PBUH!

Glory to Allah and peace be upon His prophets.

Tahmeed

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Assalamu alaikum brother Osama,

The NT and even the gospel of Barnabas (ch. 2) says that Mary took Joseph as her husband.

But we know that the Jews called her an aduteress. Even the Talmud says that.

If Joseph was really Mary's husband, they wouldn't make such a nasty claim. They would simply take Jesus as the son of Joseph.

Please reply soon.

Your brother,
Tahmeed

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Assalamu alaikum dear brother,

Brother these Islamophobia also burn Holy Quran. So i don't think that you should be worried about Emlem containing Allah's or Prophet's name. No matter what you do these racist & bigoted Islamophobia will hate us and can do anything to destroy Islam

So true!

But we should be cautious while using very often something which rasul SAW didn't use often. For example, in important letters, posters etc we can use such emblems if Islam needs to be represented there; as rasul SAW did. Also in mosques, there is no problem. But I think we should avoid using emblems in places where rasul SAW didn't and where there are risks such as the following example.

I have seen 'La ilaha illAllah....' in Saudi Arabian coins. But a coin can fall anywhere, anyone can carelessly walk over it. Is that appropiate? So, in cases like these, we should avoid using Allah's name or emblem containing it.

May peace be upon you,
Your brother in Islam, Tahmeed

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Assalamu alaikum dear brother Tarek and Uzair,

JajakAllahu dear bro Tarek for those informations about that Tagut (Atatuk).

And may Allah bless you for your understanding dear brother Uzair.

I also thought that we can use 'La ilaha illAllah......' or the picture I showed, 'Allah, rasul, muhammad' as our emblem instead of that pagan mark. I guess that won't be any sin (Allah knows best).

But have you thought about the results of using those writtings or the seal as an emblem? The christians love burning things to dishonor Islam.>:( Every christian and bloody 'Islam-hating infidel' will burn at least one emblem each day. But we are not like those ******* as we respect the people of the Books. Does any of us want to see the sacred name of Allah SWT and the name of  His beloved prophet SAW burning?

Actually there is very little need of an emblem. But we can use the emblems you or I have shown only in special cases and not very often.

May Allah bless you and all the muslims in this world,
Tahmeed

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Quran Morality and Moral Code, Laws & QA / Re: Music
« on: April 15, 2015, 03:27:16 PM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brothers,

Allah gave psalms to David which contained songs and were sang with musical instruments.

The use of musical instruments is an information you get from the bible, the most unauthentic book in the world.

Even if Allah permitted David to use musical instruments, that doesn't mean we ummat e muhammad are permitted to do it.

According to the bible, Jesus drank wine. SO LET'S DRINK WINE.

And as far as I know, only the instrument 'daff' is permitted. People used those while they were receiving the prophet pbuh in madina. Notice that in the hadith were the prophet told Abu Bakr to let the little girl sing, he was playing a daff.

And singing is halal without instruments andf vulgur sayings. There are many nasheeds like that.

Salam,
Tahmeed

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Definition of Jinn
« on: April 15, 2015, 02:40:53 PM »
Assalamu alaikum,

So we are studying demonology here? Has anyone played or seen the game 'Devil May Cry'? :P

In this game, the hero dante is a half demon. In the story, his father sparda was a powerful demon who ruled the human world in harmony. Both of them are good characters.

So see, the word 'demon' doesn't always have to mean 'bad' or 'evil'! :)

(NOTE: I am not advestising for any video game here! I have never played that game and I have given up playing video games. :) I am just using the example here. So don't take it seriously!)

If you use the word 'demon' (for jinns) in that sense, (i.e. demons don't always have to be evil) and then use the word 'devil' to mean evil jinns or evil demons, I think there is no problem!

Salam,
Tahmeed


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Assalamu alaikum dear brothers,

Salam 3alaykum brothers and sisters,

As far as I know, that symbol was adopted by the Ottomans while under the leadership of Ataturk.

Ataturk the Zionist, alcoholic infiltrator, who hated Islam with a vengeance.

Islam does not permit the use of Emblems or symbols.

Salam

That's damn true, brother Tarek !! JajakAllahu khair, And thanks for the information. Is this kamal ataturk pasha, the person I hate most??

Now back to my topic. Perhaps some of the brothers are thinking that this emblem is nothing that dangerous. So I'm gonna make some illustrations this time.

But first of all, brothers and sisters, I need to make one thing very clear. If you think I am doing this to proof that Islam has a pagan origin (Nau'zubillah)....YOU ARE BADLY MISTAKEN. I am saying again and again that Muhammad SAW didn't show such emblem nor did the rightly guided caliphs. So this has absolutely NOTHING to do with true Islam

THE EMBLEM USED FOR ISLAM: SATAN HAS HIS WAYS.......

See this picture carefully.

This is a picture of a harranian moon deity from 2200 BCE. What's over the head?? The present emblem used for Islam (Though the star has more arms) !! (ASTAG-FIRULLAH)

And this is the picture of ottoman flag with the emblem, the one brother Tarek was talking about.


So either the ottomans adopted this emblem from persians who were once 'fathers of paganism', or just satan used his special symbol he had been using for thousand years, a he planned to insert this pagan symbol in Allah's true religion; ISLAM.

And brothers and sisters, satan plans for thousand years, and he has his ways!

It was prophesied in hadiths that muslims will little by little return to paganism and past ignorance. It's happening everywhere!! Almost every mosque's entrance is adorned with this pagan symbol.

Rasul SAW said that shirk comes more silently than an ant!!

And look, our so called scholars have no headache regarding this pagan symbol.

If you indeed want a symol for Islam, is the official seal of prophet muhammad SAW too bad for that? How about this one?



Question: Your showing that the emblem was the symbol of some harranian moon deity proves nothing. The pagan Arabs also considered the black stone holy. So is it a pagan thing? What if this harranian symbol has something to do with Islam, and later people used this for their moon deity?

Answer: You are making a mistake here. The fact about the black stone and the fact about this symbol are not the same.

Black stone and kaaba are originally Islamic. The kaaba was built and the black stone was placed by Ibrahim PBUH. Later, pagans housed their gods in the kaaba. But as the kaaba and the black stone are originally Islamic, Prophet Muhammad SAW restored the hajj and kissing the black stone.

Thus, he restored many practices which were originally Islamic, but later had been adopted by pagans. He came to restore original Islam. So if the foul symbol had something to do with Islam, wouldn't he restore it? Can you show me one hadith were he recommended such a thing? Rather, I can show the two hadiths I quoted before which says about new inventions like this pagan symbol.

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Aisha (R) reported, Rasulullah pbuj said, "He who innovates things in our affairs which is invalid, they are to be rejected." (Muslim, Kitab al Aqdiyya, chapter 6)

Narrated Ibn Sariyah...

........He (the prophet) then said, "I enjoin u to fear Allah, and to hear and obey even if it be an Abyssinian slave, for those of u who live after me will see great disagreement. You must then follow my sunnah and that of the rightly guided caliphs. Hold to it and stick fast to it. Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error."
(Abu Dawud pdf, hafith no. 4590)

May Allah save us from all kinds of shirks and the deception of satan the deceiver.

And brother Osama, if you agree with me in these points and I hope you will InshAllah, you need to raise mass awareness about this (If you don't have any articles yet. :P) May Allah greatly reward you for your great work!!

Tahmeed

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Christian asked me.
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Why would Gabriel ask Muhammad to read when he was illiterate? Angel Knows everything. This proves that it was not an angel but it was a demon.


How should I answer this?

Assalamu alaikum dear brothers,

I find this thing very interesting!

Gabriel said, 'read'.

The prophet said, 'I can't read.'

So why then Gabriel again said, 'Read'? ???

If it was a demon, then a demon should be cleverer than an angel !!

I think he wasn't actually telling the prophet to read, but was repeating the first word of the verse 96:1, 'Iqra', from which the name 'Quran' comes.

Sometimes the infidels' logics stinks.

And another important thing. Saying that angels know everything is evident shirk. Even humans have higher status than angels, that's why the angels were told to bow down to Adam. But u will see in the bible how they worship angels, for example see gen 19:1-2.

May Allah bless the muslim ummah,
Tahmeed

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: Declining the truth
« on: April 13, 2015, 04:42:28 AM »
Assalamu alaikum dear brother Abdullah Tahmeed,

As for those living in areas that ISLAM NEVER REACHES them, or perhaps Islam have reaches their places. But due to how Islam is portrayed as communism or evil belief nowadays.
They will simply decline truth or they will avoid study about Islam that is clearly bad in their eyes, they can just say Muslims's religion and their book are the work of Satan.

This is a matter of Allah to judge them in the Day of Judgement.


EXACTLY! well, i am wondering if there are any verses about these issues.

Could this be the verse u want?

[17:15] And we never punish until We have sent a messenger (to warn)

This verse may refer to the native people living in remote areas of the world, some of whom don't even know what is pant, let alone Islam !!

(I read about such a race who say the earth will be destroyed if they wear pants !!!)

But u will have to keep these verses in mind too;

[10:47] To every people (was sent) a messenger...

[13:7] ...And to every people there is a guide.

[16:36] Verily We sent a messenger for every people..

[35:24] and there was never a people, without having a warner  living among them...

[40:5] and every people plotted against their prophet...

So every nation had prophets or guides.

But still therer are some uncivilzed ethnic people who have no knowledge about the truth. Perhaps their prophets are long forgotten. It's completely Allah's will what He will do with them.

But I think we muslims will have to take a part of their burden in the Judgement Day. Because we are appointed to call others to Islam. What people like Zakir Naik and brother Osama are doing is great work mashAllah and perfect for general people. But the problem is people who don't wear pants :P don't watch TV or browse on internet !!

Look at the christian missionaries, they are all over the world. The sahabas (R) did the same thing too; came out of homes and spread the message.

The Prophet (SAW) said, "The fire of Hell won't touch the servant whose legs touched dirt in the way of Allah." (bukhari)

But still, Allah gave us a head to think about Allah's signs. Many philosophers became monotheists in this way. I guess u know that in mecca before the prophet pbuh there were four people seeking the true religion? They were Oraka ibn Nawfel, Ubaidullah ibn Zahsh, Usman ibn Huairis and Zaid ibn Amr. The first three became christians. But Zaid became a Abrahamic monotheist, neither Jew-Christian nor pagan. He even forbade to bury daughters! (That's how Allah grants them hikmah who seek Him!) [souce: Sirat e Ibn Hisham]

(NOTE: Ibn Hisham is not always authentic, but here I used it just to show how people can realize the truth)

But he died before Islam came. And Prophet pbuh permitted his relatives to pray for him and said that he will be a unique ummah on the judgement Day.


As for those living in areas that Islam never reaches them, or perhaps Islam have reaches their places. But due to how Islam is portrayed as communism or evil belief nowadays.
They will simply decline truth or they will avoid study about Islam that is clearly bad in their eyes, they can just say Muslims's religion and their book are the work of Satan.

Well, that's their burden. Who told them to avoid studying Islam? We are studying christianity. And if anyone decline the truth even after studying Islam (people like uncle Sam Shamoun :P), for them Allah revealed this verse,

[27:84] Until when they come (Allah) will say, "Did ye reject My sign/verses though ye comprehended them not in knowledge, or what was it ye did?"

May Allah be with us all
Sadat Tahmeed

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The emblem used for Islam
« on: April 12, 2015, 07:56:34 PM »
Assalamu alaikum dear Bro Osama,

I read your article about the kaaba. It's very good mashAllah. But Bro, I think I didn't saw this verse in the article. I just read it and I hope it will be useful inshAllah.

Ezra 10:1

No while Ezra was praying, and while he was confessing, weeping and bowing down BEFORE THE HOUSE OF GOD..........

Allah Hafiz,
Tahmeed

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Re: The emblem used for Islam
« on: April 12, 2015, 01:42:53 AM »
Walaikumus salam brother Osama and submit,

My point was not actually about their claim that Allah is a moon god but the emblem they use for Islam. Using this emblem to support the foul claim has no sense because muhammad sm didn't recommend such an emblem. But why should we give them the chance?

But as u have taken up the point, I will say something about that.

Think about it. There were many jew christians in arabia in muhammad's time. If Allah was truly a pagan god why didn't they complain? (as they say they are monotheists!) Abdullah bin Salam (R) was a former jewish scholar. Why didn't he say, 'Muhammad, the real name of God is not Allah, it should be Yehweh, Allah is a pagan moon god'? ???

The arabs worshipped Allah as the highest God, not a silly moon god. The Quran testifies this.

[43:87] If you ask them Who created them, they will say, 'Allah,.

Also read verse 10:31 and verse 29:63

If this verses were wrong, the pagans would surely complain, "Muhammad, what are you saying? we don't say Allah is the supreme god, he is a moon god!" But they didn't say such things.

And jajakAllahu khair brother submit for the star god example, I didn't know that. I just knew that the christians worship sun god horus (thanks to the canadian atheist :P, May Allah guide him to Islam).

May Allah, the one true God, be with us all

Tahmeed


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Assalamu alaikum bro Osama,

Recently I've been thinking about the symbol used for Islam (A crescent moon and a 5 pointed star) and I realized something.

Look at the past and present mythologies. The greek goddess of moon and hunting, Artemis, who was known as Diana in roman mythology; both are drawn with crescents on their heads. The hindu god shiva has a crescent on his head. Even the pagan arabian god hubal had a crescent on his head. So see, satan has his ways !

The mark they use for Islam, was invented neither by the prophet pbuh nor by any of his companions may ALLAH be pleased with them. So who gave the foul inventor of this symbol the right to make up an emblem for Allah's religion??

Aisha (R) reported, Rasulullah pbuj said, "He who innovates things in our affairs which is invalid, they are to be rejected." (Muslim, Kitab al Aqdiyya, chapter 6)

Narrated Ibn Sariyah...

........He (the prophet) then said, "I enjoin u to fear Allah, and to hear and obey even if it be an Abyssinian slave, for those of u who live after me will see great disagreement. You must then follow my sunnah and that of the rightly guided caliphs. Hold to it and stick fast to it. Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error."
(Abu Dawud pdf, hafith no. 4590)

Actually this symbol was invented in Turkey. Many bidats came from that place.

I guess u know about red cross and red crescent.  The organization's emblem was at first a red cross. Then the Turkeys brought the red crescent emblem for 'muslim use'. Read this:

The Red Cross flag is the colour-switched version of the Flag of Switzerland. In 1906, to put an end to the argument of Turkey that the flag took its roots from Christianity, it was decided to promote officially the idea that the Red Cross flag had been formed by reversing the federal colours of Switzerland, although no clear evidence of this origin had ever been found. [13]

THE RED CRESCENT

The Red Crescent emblem was first used by ICRC volunteers during the armed conflict between the Ottoman Empire and Russia (1877–1878). The symbol was officially adopted in 1929, and so far 33 Islamic states have recognized it.


(from http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Red_Cross_and_Red_Crescent_Movement)

(And read in wikipedia that israel wanted a 'red david's star' too but was rejected :P)

So the crescent is an alternative for the cross, huh? The christians have a nice emblem, why shouldn't we have one too?

And then satan thought, "Well, I can't take them back to paganism, but surely I can resurrect the pagan symbol I have been using for thousand years!"

(I am not mocking the red cross organisation here, I am just talking about why the emblem changed)

Almost every mosque has now this emblem. And what hurts me the most is that they included this symbol on the prophet's grave.

I wont say that this symbol is shirk, but it surely is evident bidat. Why would we need an emblem anyway? Just because the enemies of Allah have emblems of their own doesnt mean we should have one too. "We are muslims"- that's enough for us to represent ourselves.

And the idea of having an emblem is not the only thing muslims adopted from other religions. Things like rosary beads (known as Tasbi), pendants with Allah's name, birthday, armlets; are also adopted things, which the Prophet didnt use or perform..and so bidat.

Another fitna with this symbol is that the infidels use it to support their claim that muslims worship a moon god. NAUZUBILLAH.

Bro Osama do u have any artcles about this emblem? I think I saw one about the pendant with Allah's name.

Please reply soon and beware of bidats !!
Tahmeed

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