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As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

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My brief update on 2/27/2013...

Just wanted to bring to your attention my favorite part of this detailed refutation to the doofus Walid Shoebat, who nick-names himself as "Wali".  It is the following verses are among many below:

Daniel 11
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43 and he will take its rich treasures of gold and silver. He will also conquer Libya and Ethiopia.[g] 44 But he will be alarmed by news from the east and the north, and he will become furious and cause great destruction. 45 After this, he will set up camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion (Wait a minute! Did captin "crunch" Wali now invade Israel too???). Then he will be destroyed (aww, poor Wali), and no one will be able to save him.


So the enemy will be all over the map.  He will invade Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt and even Israel (he will camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion).  Obviously, this couldn't be any more absurd and far from reality, if you want to be like the neo-con zionists, and consider it an End of Times "prophecy" AGAINST THE ARABSI mean wouldn't you agree with me that these are history stories (perhaps even man-made fables) and not End of Times Prophecies?

Besides Walid, WHO INVADED LIBYA TODAY?  Was it not the USA and NATO?  I am not saying that this is a prophecy about them.  I don't believe this is a prophecy at all!  But I just wanted this to serve as a brief demonstration to show the reader how low, ridiculous and hateful the neo-con christians and zionists are, especially towards Arabs.  We see how none of these so-called "prophecies" are modern-day ones.  These "prophecies" are:

1-  Either old prophecies that already came to pass and are long gone.

2-  Are lies invented by man, as the Bible was indisputably proven to contain fabrications and lies and alterations in it, ironically according to its own theologians.  Not only that, but according to the Bible's own theologians' commentaries on almost every single Bible's book and gospel (indexes on history and information before each chapter), the Bible's books and gospels were:

(a)-  Written in unknown places.
(b)-  Written in unknown dates.
(c)-  Written by unknown people.
(d)-  Altered by unknown how many times, and by whom.

Don't believe it?  Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm and read the MANY QUOTATIONS that I quoted for almost every single book and gospel.

Continuing with this rebuttal....

The following are the link to Walid Shoebat's 2-hour lecture, and his absurd "prophecies" which are quite obviouse to be no more than hate mongering rubbish.  I'll let you examine the verses and see his absurd lies for yourselves.  His link is located at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD_N9t2j9jg (Walid Shoebat End Times / Prophecy Lecture, August 28th, 2011).

Like his other absurd lies, which were exposed in greate details at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/walid_shoebat_islam_satan_rebuttal.htm, these ones below are no different.  Like for instance, when he turned a prayer that was rejected by Yahweh Almighty, into a "prophecy", it was clear that he lying and fabricating things.  Watch this brief clip: http://www.answering-christianity.com/walid_mixing_acts_psalm_judges.wmv.

Now, the Verses that Walid used in this latest lecture are:

Daniel 11, Daniel 2, Joel 3, Zacharia 9, Ezekiel 38, Ezekiel 28, Ezekiel 30, Ezekiel 32, Revelation 8, Revelation 9, Revelation 13, Revelation 14, Jeremiah 49, Jeremiah 50, Jeremiah 51, Isaiah 45, Isaiah 46, Acts 19:35, Revelation 18:2, Isaiah 21, Habakuk 3.

The following are the links to these Biblical verses.  Make sure you read the chapters before and after them to get the complete context, and to see how these are no prophecies, but rather they were about LOCAL EVENTS THAT CAME AND PASSED, AND THEY ARE NOT FUTURE PROPHECIES:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=daniel%2011,%20daniel%202,%20joel%........&version=CEV

and

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=habakkuk%203&version=CEV


Walid's points:

WALID SHOEBAT SAYS IN HOUR 1:13 "I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU TO BRING SOMEONE TO STRAIGHTEN ME OUT."  We'll see about that.

The following are his points regarding the mentioned Biblical verses:

Daniel 11 (america in the bible).

Daniel 2, Joel 3, (iron led), about Turkey, also he will not honor the desire of women.  he's anti-women.  he will also attempt to set time and laws (Shariah has iit's own different time and law).  He also shall honor the god of fortresses and war that our fathers knew not.  this god uses gold, silver and precious stones to advance his cause (Zakat is used similarly to advance Jihad).  the anti-christ will also declare war on foreign fortresses with a foreign god.  he will aknowledge the god of war and advance its glory.  he shall declare war on the strongest fortresses.  he shall divide the land (Israel) for gain.  he is pro-palestine.  he divides the land of Israel.

Zachariah 9, the return of Jesus.

Ezekiel 38, about Lydia (Turkey).

WHAT HAPPENS TO THE ANTI-CHRIST:

Ezekeil 28, prince of tyre (lebanon).  Why was he called prince of lebanon, and not prince of rome?  he is also called the pharoah of egypt.  also called king of babylon.  and what is babylon or the future babylon or mystery babylon? the cities of this babylon are all in arabia.  yathrib also was the head quarter of sin, the moon god, and it was called the daughter of babylon.  this was established by Nabucanasser's son, Nabonidus. Also in Verse 12, you are the seal of perfection. 

In verse 2, yet you are a man, and not a GOD.  Verse 7, behold, I will bring strangers against you, the most terrible (in battle and might) of the nations; in other words, the most powerful nations will fight the anti-christ.  this means that the anti-christ will not rule all of the people. as in Daniel 11, he will declare war against the strongest fortresses, and they shall draw their swords against YOUR WISDOM.  verse 8, they shall throw you down into the pit.

In Ezekiel 30, the nations that will be thrown into the pit are Sudan, Egypt, Libya (North Africa of algeria, tunisia, morocco, muritania), Lydia (turkey), Ezekiel 32, verse 22, assyria and all of her company will be part of the anti-christ.  Assyria here is Iraq, Syria, Turkey.  Elam (Persia) and all of her multitude. Also Mashach and Tobal (both in Turkey).  They stand for Mushki and Tabalani.  Gog is the chief prince of Mashach and Tubal.  There is also Edom (arabia) and all of her kings.

Revelation 8 & 9, a great star fell from Heaven, burning like a torch.  And he (the star) will be thrown in the fire of the pit.

Revelation 13, the beast comes out of the sea.  It had a body of a leapord.  Daniel defines the leapord as Greece, which is Turkey.  Also the FEET OF A BEAR.  This refers to mido-persia.  MOUTH LIKE A LION, that's babylonia. 

Revelation 14, also the burden against DUMMAH.  DUMMAH is DUMMAT AL-JANDAL in Arabia. Also the Book talks about the BURDEN AGAINST ARABIA (direct reference).

Jeremiah 49, 50, 51, the ship masters of the RED SEA crying alas alas the great city. Exactly in Jeremiah 49:21.  Also verse 7 against EDOM.  Also DEEDAN.  The Arabs will no longer pitch tents there.  Verse 21: the earth shakes at the noise of their fall.  at the cry, it's noise shall be heard at the red sea.

Isaiah 45, 46, every knee shall bow, and every mouth shall take the oath, including BELL (the moon god).  Even the moon god will bow to Jesus Christ.

Mystery babylon is also called "the mother of all harlots".

Daniel tells us that they countries will follow the anti-christ IN SUBMISSION.

Acts 19:35, forbids worshiping an image that was a black stone.

IN HOUR 1:44 of the lecture, WALID SAID THAT MUSLIMS HATE SAUDI ARABIA.  BIBLE SAYS SHE HAS A CUT IN HER HAND AND DRINKS THE BLOOD OF SAINTS.  FROM HER COMES THE MARTYRS.  SHE IS THE CAUSE OF MARTYRDOM.  and she give her cup of wine to the kings of the earth.  It is the cup of fornication.  She has 7 heads (mountains, which are kingdoms. see also Daniel 2).

Revelation 18, verse2, babylon the great has fallen.  See also Isaiah 21.

Habakuk 3, Christ is fighting against midean.  Midean is the brother of Ishmael. 

The tents of Cush and Sudan are in affliction. 

WALID SAID: WE DON'T READ THESE PROPHECIES, AND WE STRAIGHT TO REVELATIIONS.  Aside from these not being prophecies at all, but Walid also doesn't see that GOD Almighty NULLIFIED THE OLD COVENANT AND LAW with the Israelites.  He also said that He'll from now on talk about NEW THINGS THAT WERE NOT MENTIONED in the past.

isaiah 21, the burden against the desert of the sea.  the bible also says the harlot is surrounded with waters.  John is taken by the Angel and is shown the desert, and showed me a WOMAN (the harlot) riding on a beast.  this harlot is a city in the desert, which people come to and bow to.  black stone is an image, and Muslims bow to it.  ALSO IRAN (ELAM) WILL DESTROY ARABIA.

In the video, HOUR 1:35 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


My response:

These were the notes that I was able to write down from his 2-hour lecture.  I will delve into them in great details and expose this quack and fraud below, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  The reader can also read the verses' links, which I gave above, and see how these stories were about LOCAL EVENTS THAT CAME AND PASSED, AND THEY ARE NOT FUTURE PROPHECIES.  Make sure to read the chapters that are before and after the ones that he gave.  This way, you see the entire context clearly.

Let us now thoroughly examine the verses which Walid Shoebat spoke about during his lecture:

Daniel 11, Daniel 2, Joel 3, Zacharia 9, Ezekiel 38, Ezekiel 28, Ezekiel 30, Ezekiel 32, Revelation 8, Revelation 9, Revelation 13, Revelation 14, Jeremiah 49, Jeremiah 50, Jeremiah 51, Isaiah 45, Isaiah 46, Acts 19:35, Revelation 18:2, Isaiah 21, Habakuk 3.

The key to refuting this quack is in going through these verses and books in great details.  Therefore, I'll take them one by one, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  Let us see.  Pay attention to the emphasized verses below.

1-  Daniel 11.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=daniel%2011&version=CEV

Daniel 11
Contemporary English Version (CEV)


1 You also need to know that I protected and helped Darius the Mede[a] in his first year as king.

The Angel’s Message to Daniel
Part One: The Four Kings and their Successors
2 What I am going to tell you is certain to happen. Four kings will rule Persia, one after the other, but the fourth one will become much richer than the others. In fact, his wealth will make him so powerful that he will turn everyone against the kingdom of Greece (Addition by Osama Abdallah:  HOSTILITIES AND MANY HISTORIC WARS BETWEEN PERSIA AND GREECE ARE WELL KNOWN, AND ARE TAUGHT IN HISTORY).

3 Then a mighty king will come to power and will be able to do whatever he pleases (hmmmmm let see, is this Ahmadinejad to you, Walid Shoebat?).

4 But suddenly his kingdom will be crushed and scattered to the four corners of the earth (earth is now a flat square with four corners), where four more kingdoms will rise. But these won’t be ruled by his descendants or be as powerful as his kingdom (instead, they'll be ruled by Walid Shoebat).

5 The king of the south will grow powerful. Then one of his generals will rebel and take over most of the kingdom. 6 Years later the southern kingdom and the northern kingdom will make a treaty, and the daughter of the king of the south will marry the king of the north (which daughter is that?). But she will lose her power. Then she, her husband, their child,[b ] and the servants who came with her will all be killed.

After this, 7 one of her relatives will become the ruler of the southern kingdom. He will attack the army of the northern kingdom and capture its fortresses.

8 Then he will carry their idols to Egypt (Egypt today has NO IDOLS.  ISLAM CAME TO END ALL IDOLS), together with their precious treasures of silver and gold, but it will be a long time before he attacks the northern kingdom again. Some years later 9 the king of the north will invade the southern kingdom, but he will be forced back to his own country (I thought the USA was already in the region.  How will she allow all of this back and forth fighting and invasion to occur under her watch?).

10 The sons of the king of the north will gather a huge army that will sweep down like a roaring flood, reaching all the way to the fortress of the southern kingdom. 11 But this will make the king of the south angry (Walid is now angry), and he will defeat this large army from the north. 12 The king of the south will feel proud because of the many thousands he has killed. But his victories won’t last long, 13 because the king of the north will gather a larger and more powerful army than ever before. Then in a few years, he will start invading other countries.  (Man, I feel sorry for the US military being caught in the middle of all of this pillow fighting!!)

14 At this time many of your own people will try to make this vision come true by rebelling against the king of the south, but their rebellion will fail. 15 Then the army from the north will surround and capture a fortress in the south, and not even the most experienced troops of the southern kingdom will be able to make them retreat. 16 The king who invaded from the north will do as he pleases, and he will even capture and destroy the holy land.[c] 17 In fact, he will decide to invade the south with his entire army. Then he will attempt to make peace by giving the king of the south a bride from the northern kingdom, but this won’t be successful.

18 Afterwards, this proud king of the north will invade and conquer many of the nations along the coast, but a military leader will defeat him and make him lose his pride. 19 He will retreat to his fortresses in his own country, but on the way he will be defeated and never again be seen.

20 The next king of the north will try to collect taxes for the glory of his kingdom. However, he will come to a sudden end in some mysterious way, instead of in battle or because of someone’s anger.

Part Two: The Evil King from the North
21 The successor of this king of the north will be a worthless nobody, who doesn’t come from a royal family. He will suddenly appear and gain control of the kingdom by treachery. 22 Then he will destroy armies and remove God’s chosen high priest. 23 He will make a treaty, but he will be deceitful and break it, even though he has only a few followers. 24 Without warning, he will successfully invade a wealthy province, which is something his ancestors never did. Then he will divide among his followers all of its treasures and property. But none of this will last very long.

25 He will gather a large and powerful army, and with great courage he will attack the king of the south. The king of the south will meet him with a much stronger army, but he will lose the battle, because he will be betrayed 26 by members of the royal court. He will be ruined, and most of his army will be slaughtered.

27 The two kings will meet around a table and tell evil lies to each other. But their plans will fail, because God has already decided what will happen. 28 Then the king of the north will return to his country with great treasures. But on the way, he will attack the religion of God’s people and do whatever else he pleases.

29 At the time God has decided, the king of the north will invade the southern kingdom again, but this time, things will be different. 30 Ships from the west will come to attack him, and he will be discouraged. Then he will start back to his own country and take out his anger on the religion of God’s faithful people, while showing kindness to those who are unfaithful. 31 He will send troops to pollute the temple and the fortress, and he will stop the daily sacrifices. Then he will set up that “Horrible Thing” that causes destruction. 32 The king will use deceit to win followers from those who are unfaithful to God, but those who remain faithful will do everything possible to oppose him.

33 Wise leaders will instruct many of the people. But for a while, some of these leaders will either be killed with swords or burned alive, or else robbed of their possessions and thrown into prison. 34 They will receive only a little help in their time of trouble, and many of their followers will be treacherous. 35 Some of those who are wise will suffer, so that God will make them pure and acceptable until the end, which will still come at the time he has decided.

36 This king will do as he pleases. He will proudly claim to be greater than any god and will insult the only true God. Indeed, he will be successful until God is no longer angry with his people. 37 This king will reject the gods his ancestors worshiped and the god preferred by women.[d] In fact, he will put himself above all gods 38 and worship only the so-called god of fortresses, who was unknown to his ancestors. And he will honor it with gold, silver, precious stones, and other costly gifts. 39 With the help of this foreign god, he will capture the strongest fortresses. Everyone who worships this god will be put in a position of power and rewarded with wealth and land.

Part Three: The Time of the End
40 At the time of the end, the king of the south will attack the kingdom of the north. But its king will rush out like a storm with war chariots, cavalry, and many ships. Indeed, his forces will flood one country after another, 41 and when they reach the holy land,[e] tens of thousands will be killed. But the countries of Edom and Moab and the ruler of Ammon[f] will escape.

42 The king of the north will invade many countries, including Egypt (Wow, invade Egypt!!  Just like that.  A nation of almost 100 million people will finally be invaded by Walid Shoebat.  GO WALI!!!!!!!!!),

43 and he will take its rich treasures of gold and silver. He will also conquer Libya and Ethiopia.[g] 44 But he will be alarmed by news from the east and the north, and he will become furious and cause great destruction. 45 After this, he will set up camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion (Wait a minute! Did captin "crunch" Wali now invade Israel too???). Then he will be destroyed (aww, poor Wali), and no one will be able to save him.


Footnotes:
a. Daniel 11:1 Darius the Mede: See 5.30.
b. Daniel 11:6 their child: One Hebrew manuscript and two ancient translations; most Hebrew manuscripts “her father.”
c. Daniel 11:16 the holy land: See the note at 8.9.
d. Daniel 11:37 god preferred by women: Perhaps Tammuz or Adonis, which were  popular among the women of that time.
e. Daniel 11:41 the holy land: See the note at 8.9.
f. Daniel 11:41 the ruler of Ammon: Or “what is left of Ammon.”
g. Daniel 11:43 Ethiopia: The Hebrew text has “Cush,” which was a region south of Egypt that included parts of the present countries of Ethiopia and Sudan.



2-  Daniel 2.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel%202&version=CEV

Daniel 2
Contemporary English Version (CEV)


Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream
During the second year that Nebuchadnezzar was king, he had such horrible nightmares that he could not sleep. 2 So he called in his counselors, advisors, magicians, and wise men, 3 and said, “I am disturbed by a dream that I don’t understand, and I want you to explain it.”

4 They answered in Aramaic,[a] “Your Majesty, we hope you live forever! We are your servants. Please tell us your dream, and we will explain what it means.”

5 But the king replied, “No! I have made up my mind. If you don’t tell me both the dream and its meaning, you will be chopped to pieces and your houses will be torn down. 6 However, if you do tell me both the dream and its meaning, you will be greatly rewarded and highly honored. Now tell me the dream and explain what it means.”

7 “Your Majesty,” they said, “if you will only tell us your dream, we will interpret it for you.”

8 The king replied, “You’re just stalling for time, 9 because you know what’s going to happen if you don’t come up with the answer. You’ve decided to make up a bunch of lies, hoping I might change my mind. Now tell me the dream, and that will prove that you can interpret it.”

10 His advisors explained, “Your Majesty, you are demanding the impossible! No king, not even the most famous and powerful, has ever ordered his advisors, magicians, or wise men to do such a thing. 11 It can’t be done, except by the gods, and they don’t live here on earth.”

12-13 This made the king so angry that he gave orders for every wise man in Babylonia to be put to death, including Daniel and his three friends.

God Tells Nebuchadnezzar’s Dream to Daniel
14 Arioch was the king’s official in charge of putting the wise men to death. He was on his way to have it done, when Daniel very wisely went to him 15 and asked, “Why did the king give such cruel[b ] orders?” After Arioch explained what had happened, 16 Daniel rushed off and said to the king, “If you will just give me some time, I’ll explain your dream.”

17 Daniel returned home and told his three friends. 18 Then he said, “Pray that the God who rules from heaven will be merciful and explain this mystery, so that we and the others won’t be put to death.” 19 In a vision one night, Daniel was shown the dream and its meaning. Then he praised the God who rules from heaven:

20 “Our God, your name
will be praised
    forever and forever.
You are all-powerful,
    and you know everything.
21 You control human events—
you give rulers their power
    and take it away,
and you are the source
    of wisdom and knowledge.

22 “You explain deep mysteries,
because even the dark
    is light to you.
23 You are the God
who was worshiped
    by my ancestors.
Now I thank you and praise you
    for making me wise
and telling me the king’s dream,
    together with its meaning.”

Daniel Interprets the Dream
24 Daniel went back to Arioch, the official in charge of executing the wise men. Daniel said, “Don’t kill those men! Take me to the king, and I will explain the meaning of his dream.”

25 Arioch rushed Daniel to the king and announced, “Your Majesty, I have found out that one of the men brought here from Judah can explain your dream.”

26 The king asked Daniel,[c] “Can you tell me my dream and what it means?”

27 Daniel answered:

Your Majesty, not even the smartest person in all the world can do what you are demanding. 28-29 But the God who rules from heaven can explain mysteries. And while you were sleeping, he showed you what will happen in the future. 30 However, you must realize that these mysteries weren’t explained to me because I am smarter than everyone else. Instead, it was done so that you would understand what you have seen.

31 Your Majesty, what you saw standing in front of you was a huge and terrifying statue, shining brightly. 32 Its head was made of gold, its chest and arms were silver, and from its waist down to its knees, it was bronze. 33 From there to its ankles it was iron, and its feet were a mixture of iron and clay.

34 As you watched, a stone was cut from a mountain—but not by human hands. The stone struck the feet, completely shattering the iron and clay. 35 Then the iron, the clay, the bronze, the silver, and the gold were crushed and blown away without a trace, like husks of wheat at threshing time. But the stone became a tremendous mountain that covered the entire earth.

36 That was the dream, and now I’ll tell you what it means. 37 Your Majesty, you are the greatest of kings, and God has highly honored you with power 38 over all humans, animals, and birds. You are the head of gold. 39 After you are gone, another kingdom will rule, but it won’t be as strong. Then it will be followed by a kingdom of bronze that will rule the whole world. 40 Next, a kingdom of iron will come to power, crushing and shattering everything.[d] (Neo-cons used to refer to verses like this during Saddam Hussein's reign, and attributed these verses to Iraq, because it is ancient Babylon.  Yet, Iraq today and even during Saddam's days was virtually NOTHING, and never even came 1% close to conquoring the WORLD.  I hope the reader clearly sees how stupid and dangerous the neo-cons' garbage full-filling are.  They're not fulfilling any prophecy here, because these are no End of Times Prophecies!  And if they were, then they'd clearly wouldn't be talking about Iraq and Arabia, for the Middle East is virtually powerless, and never ruled the world at all.).

41-42 This fourth kingdom will be divided—it will be both strong and brittle, just as you saw that the feet and toes were a mixture of iron and clay. 43 This kingdom will be the result of a marriage between kingdoms, but it will crumble, just as iron and clay don’t stick together.

44-45 During the time of those kings, the God who rules from heaven will set up an eternal kingdom that will never fall. (The zionist Israel, which is behind just about every major mischief and evil (INCLUDING 9/11), and world-wide corruption in the world, is not an Eternal Kingdom of GOD Almighty, nor is Israel here mentioned, despite that the Bible was for the Israelites and the Jews.  SO THIS ETERNAL KINGDOM COULD VERY WELL BE JESUS CHRIST'S KINGDOM THAT HE WILL ESTABLISH IN PALESTINE, WHICH ISLAM PERFECTLY AGREES WITH).  Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm

It will be like the stone that was cut from the mountain, but not by human hands—the stone that crushed the iron, bronze, clay, silver, and gold. Your Majesty, in your dream the great God has told you what is going to happen, and you can trust this interpretation.  (If the dictatorships of Arabia get crushed and destroyed forever, and then Christ comes back and establishes the Kingdom, then this PERFECTLY FULFILLS ISLAM'S PROPHECIES!  After all, the Prophet did say that the "horn of satan" will emerge from the land of Najd, in Arabia, and then Christ will return and crush the anti-Christ, and destroy the evil zionist state of Israel.  The Muslims led by Christ will fight the Israelites in Israel and defeat them, in the End of Times Battles.  This is again after Christ returns).  Again, visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm to see the evil state of Israel today, and its evil doings.


Daniel Is Promoted
46 King Nebuchadnezzar bowed low to the ground and worshiped Daniel. Then he gave orders for incense to be burned and a sacrifice of grain to be offered in honor of Daniel. 47 The king said, “Now I know that your God is above all other gods and kings, because he gave you the power to explain this mystery.” 48 The king then presented Daniel with a lot of gifts; he promoted him to governor of Babylon Province and put him in charge of the other wise men. 49 At Daniel’s request, the king appointed Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego to high positions in Babylon Province, and he let Daniel stay on as a palace official.


Footnotes:
a. Daniel 2:4 Aramaic: Chapter 2.4—7.28 is written in Aramaic, a language closely related to Hebrew.
b. Daniel 2:15 cruel: Or “urgent.”
c. Daniel 2:26 Daniel: Aramaic “Daniel whose name was Belteshazzar” (see 1.7).
d. Daniel 2:40 crushing. . . everything: Three ancient translations; Aramaic adds “and like iron crushing.”


More to come, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Website updated on 01/08/2013!
« on: January 08, 2013, 12:36:34 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

I have updated the website with new materials.  I ask Allah Almighty that it will meet your satisfactions and further help.  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/whatsnew.htm.

And as always, all criticisms are welcomed :).  May Allah Almighty protect you and bless you all!  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

This post will address  Fox News' article, which they called: "Al Gore sells Current TV to Al-Jazeera, nets reported $100 million".  Their article can be found at: http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/01/03/al-gore-nets-reported-100-million-in-sale-current-tv-to-al-jazeera/.

They wrote:

It's Emir-acle!

Former Vice President Al Gore has made himself a much, much richer man by selling his little watched cable channel Current TV to the Emir of Qatar-funded Arab news channel Al-Jazeera.

Gore netted $100 million with his 20 percent stake in the network when it was sold for a reported $500 million on Wednesday.

Al-Jazeera plans to euthanize the struggling, seven-year-old Current TV and turn it into Al-Jazeera America by adding five to 10 new U.S. bureaus beyond the five it has now. More than half of its content will be U.S. news, and the network will have its headquarters in New York, according to a rep.

But while Al-Jazeera will now be available in millions more American homes, it will not be seen on the nation's second-largest TV operator, Time Warner Cable, as they dropped Current TV immediately after the sale became final.

"Our agreement with Current has been terminated and we will no longer be carrying the service. We are removing the service as quickly as possible," the company said in a statement.

Time Warner Cable's move is a sign that Al-Jazeera will have an uphill climb to shed its reputation as a purveyor of propaganda, but the acquisition of Current TV instantly boosts its reach in the U.S. nearly ninefold, to about 40 million homes.

But even if it’s part of their cable plan, will people tune in?

“There are still people who will not watch it, who will say that it’s a ‘terrorist network,’ ” Philip Seib, the author of “The Al Jazeera Effect,” told the New York Times.

Al-Jazeera has been criticized for having a pro-Islamist bent, and accused of working with members of Al Qaeda. One of its journalists was arrested in Israel in 2011 on suspicion of being an agent of the Palestinian group Hamas. Dave Marash, a former "Nightline" reporter who worked for Al-Jazeera in Washington, said he left the network in 2008 in part because he sensed an anti-American bias there.

Another hurdle for Al-Jazeera is that few are watching Current TV now, with an average prime time viewership around 42,000 for shows starring disgraced New York Governor Eliot Spitzer, Jennifer Granholm and other liberal pundits.

But Gore, on his way out the door, sees a bright future for Al-Jazeera America where his Current TV failed, saying both networks were founded "to give voice to those who are not typically heard; to speak truth to power; to provide independent and diverse points of view; and to tell the stories that no one else is telling."

My response:

Looking at http://www.alexa.com/search?q=current.com&r=site_screener&p=bigtop, we see that www.current.com (Current TV) is actually among the internet's top websites.  It's rank is 9,254.  The lower the number, the higher is the rank.  Fox Noise is 145.  This is all among the 100s of millions of websites out there.  So the 9,254 number (which is also expected to rise, insha'Allah) is a very impressive number as it stands.

By the way, www.answering-christianity.com now ranks at 151,584.

Hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Happy New Year Everyone! :)
« on: January 02, 2013, 03:41:36 PM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

I would like take this opportunity to wish you all and your families a happy and blessed year.  Sorry, I meant to post it here earlier but forgot :).  I did, however, post it on the site's whatsnew page.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

I just updated the website with a new 2 1/4 hours long video-rebuttal to David Wood and Robert Spencer's following videos:

1-  "Who killed Muhammad?"
2-  "Did Muhammad Exist?"

Hope insha'Allah you'll like it.  All of the website's new updates and additions can be found at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/whatsnew.htm.  Please feel free to share your comments here.  All criticism is always welcomed, and all suggestions are also always welcomed.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

A Muslim brother has asked me to go through the following link and refute it in great details: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread423757/pg1.  The following is the refutation paragraph by paragraph (I will be updating this post on regular basis, insha'Allah).


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My brief update on 2/27/2013...

Just wanted to bring to your attention my favorite part of this detailed refutation to the doofus Walid Shoebat, who nick-names himself as "Wali".  It is the following verses are among many below:

Daniel 11
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43 and he will take its rich treasures of gold and silver. He will also conquer Libya and Ethiopia.[g] 44 But he will be alarmed by news from the east and the north, and he will become furious and cause great destruction. 45 After this, he will set up camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion (Wait a minute! Did captin "crunch" Wali now invade Israel too???). Then he will be destroyed (aww, poor Wali), and no one will be able to save him.


So the enemy will be all over the map.  He will invade Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt and even Israel (he will camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion).  Obviously, this couldn't be any more absurd and far from reality, if you want to be like the neo-con zionists, and consider it an End of Times "prophecy" AGAINST THE ARABSI mean wouldn't you agree with me that these are history stories (perhaps even man-made fables) and not End of Times Prophecies?

Besides Walid, WHO INVADED LIBYA TODAY?  Was it not the USA and NATO?  I am not saying that this is a prophecy about them.  I don't believe this is a prophecy at all!  But I just wanted this to serve as a brief demonstration to show the reader how low, ridiculous and hateful the neo-con christians and zionists are, especially towards Arabs.  We see how none of these so-called "prophecies" are modern-day ones.  These "prophecies" are:

1-  Either old prophecies that already came to pass and are long gone.

2-  Are lies invented by man, as the Bible was indisputably proven to contain fabrications and lies and alterations in it, ironically according to its own theologians.  Not only that, but according to the Bible's own theologians' commentaries on almost every single Bible's book and gospel (indexes on history and information before each chapter), the Bible's books and gospels were:

(a)-  Written in unknown places.
(b)-  Written in unknown dates.
(c)-  Written by unknown people.
(d)-  Altered by unknown how many times, and by whom.

Don't believe it?  Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm and read the MANY QUOTATIONS that I quoted for almost every single book and gospel.

Continuing with this rebuttal....

Before we begin, I want to bring to your attention Jesus Christ's (peace be upon him) statements about the relationship between the Old and New Testaments:

Luke 5:36
36 He told them this parable: “No one tears a piece out of a new garment to patch an old one. Otherwise, they will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old.

Not that the neo-cons' Old Testament stories about the Middle East are modern-day End of Times Prophecies (because they have already come to pass as we will see below and throughout this section), but the New Testament further states that the Old Covenant and its Laws and any Prophecy that it may have.

I also would like the reader to visit this article, which is also the most important and top article on my website, which is located at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

In there, I directly addressed these neo-con and zionist deceivers in great details.



She wrote:

INTRODUCTION

Hello everyone! Thanks for viewing my first research project on ATS.

There has been a lot of discussion among prophecy scholars as they begin to notice the eerie similarities between certain figures and events foretold in Christian and Islamic eschatology (the study of the end times).

My response:

First of all, there are no eerie similarities.  The Old Testament's "Prophecies" were all made FOR and during the period of Nebuchadnezzar and the Babylonian Empire.  I have thoroughly demonstrated this with ample quotes from the bible's Ezekiel, Jeremiah, Isaiah and other books at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,669.0.html (End of Times Prophecy Fulfillment, or Garbage Full-Filling?)

The reader must also visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm to see:

1-  9/11 was 100% an Israeli mossad operation, and an inside job.

2-   Islam's Prophecies about the End of Times, and the rise of the ONE-EYED ANTI-CHRIST SYSTEM HAVE COME TRUE.







MILITARY GRADE THERMITE WAS FOUND AT GROUND ZERO, WHICH MELTED THE WTC TWIN TOWERS' PILLARS:




MISSING 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS IS ONE OF THE MAIN CAUSES FOR 9/11
Donald Rumsfeld admitted $2.3 Trillion missing on 9/10/2001; one day before 9/11!!



It was clearly a drone or a missile that hit the pentagon, and WTC7 came down by controlled demolition explosions from bottom-up, almost simultaneously!  Also, it's been scientifically proven that military-grade Thermite was used to melt the WTC pillars, which caused the buildings to collapse.  9/11 was 100% an Israeli Mossad operation!

Again, visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm.

Also visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/walid_shoebat_islam_satan_rebuttal.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm


The reader should also watch: http://www.answering-christianity.com/loose_change_2nd_edition_film_about_911_being_inside_job.wmv

Your verses in your article, as the reader will thoroughly see insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), are absolutely NO DIFFERENT.  They too spoke about past events that already took place thousands of years ago, and they have nothing to do with today's events.


She wrote:

As most of us know, the Christian prophecies predict an Antichrist, False Prophet, an end times government system, one world religion, and the return of Christ.

My response:

Not true.  The New Testament predicts the coming of the anti-Christ, a LEGITIMATE PROPHET, and lots of chaos and sinning among humans, natural disasters.

In John 1:19-21, during the time of Jesus, the Israelites were still awaiting for that prophet like unto Moses prophecied in Deuteronomy 18:18. When John the Baptist came, they asked him if he was Christ and he said "no". They asked him if he was Elias and he said "no". Then, in apparent reference to Deuteronomy 18:18, they asked him "are you that Prophet" and he answered, "no". (John 1: 1 9-2 1).

As to "like unto thee", Muhammad was like Moses because both of them:

1-  Were normal human beings with a father and mother.
2-  Both received Divine Revelations through Angels.
3-  Both fought battles.
4-  Both fought idol worship and paganism.  Jesus never fought that.
5-  Both married multiple women.
6-  Both names start with M or meem.
7-  Both had children and families.
8-  Both received the Law of Thikr, which is the Law that defines the laws for its followers.  The Mosaic Law or Thikr is the fundamental Law for Judaism and Christianity, and the Muhammadan Thikr is also the fundamental Law for Islam.  Jesus received no law! 

Also, Deuteronomy 33:1-2 combines references to Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. It speaks of God (i.e. God's revelation) coming from Sinai, rising from Seir (the village of Sa'ir near Jerusalem) and shining forth from Paran. According to Genesis 21:21, the wilderness of Paran was the place where Ishmael settled (i.e. Arabia, specifically Mecca).

Also, Habakkuk 3:3 speaks of God (God's help) coming from Te'man, and the holy one (coming) from Paran.  In "The Dictionary of the Bible," bearing the Nihil Obstat, Imprimatur, and Imprimi Potest (official Church seals of approval), by John McKenzi, we read that "Tema" is:

"a place name and tribal name of Arabia; a son of Ishmael.... The name survives in Teima, an oasis of the part of the Arabian desert called the Nefud in N Central Arabia."

This word, Tema, is the name of the ninth son of Ishmael (the father of the Arabs), in Genesis 25:13-15 we read:

"And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam, And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa, Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah" (Genesis 25:13-15).

In Genesis 12:2-3  And I (God) will make a nation of thee (Abraham), and  I will bless them and make thy name (Abraham) great, and thou (Abraham) shalt be a blessing: and I (God) will bless them that bless thee (Abraham). 

We Muslims do praise and honor Prophet Abraham in every single Prayer of our daily and nightly Prayers. 

Not only that, but as we saw in Noble Verses 2:130 and 3:95, Islam is called the "Religion of Abraham".

It is not a common practice among Christians to bless and praise Abraham.  On the contrary, christians DESPISE the Prophets and call them sinners.  Some even go as far as declaring that many of the Prophets will burn in Hell for Eternity.  ONLY THE MUSLIMS praise and bless Abraham.


She wrote:

What is now becoming more known is that sects of Islam also prophesy a figure known as 'Al Mahdi' who is seen as a Messiah-like figure for Islam, as well as the return of Jesus that will reinforce the Mahdi, their own Antichrist figure known as the 'Dajjal,' and an Islamic government.

None of this may sound terribly interesting at first glance due to the fact that all three Abrahamic faiths share similarities. However, there is a twist. The startling difference is that the figure prophesied in the Judeo-Christian texts regarding the Anti-Christ is clearly shown to be the 'villain' while the anticipated Mahdi of Islam is described as being a hero and a 'messiah' of sorts.

This has led many scholars to believe the prophecies regarding the Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi are describing and pointing to the same figure and events and that the Antichrist could ultimately be the Mahdi.

My response:

I read your entire article, and I saw no references to your ridiculous assertions.  Not only that, but the Hadiths also contain idioms in them, which is language that is not always to be taken literally.  There are also different accounts on what the Mahdi (the one who will pave the way for Christ to come) will be like and will do.  But anyway, the reader will thoroughly see, you have provided nothing but a chart that you wrote without any references.


She wrote:

OBJECTIVE

So in order to explore the similarities between Christian and Islamic eschatology, we'll review the correlations between:

1). The Antichrist of Christianity vs. Al Mahdi (the 'Redeemer') of Islam.
2). The Antichrist of Christianity vs. the Dajjal (the Antichrist) of Islam.
3). The False Prophet of Christianity vs. the Islamic Version of Jesus.
4). The End Times Empire of the Antichrist of Christianity vs. the End Times Empire of the Al Mahdi of Islam.

Throughout this project I will also be providing the historical background when necessary in order to have a foundation to explain the prophetic similarities.


My response:

This is the type of garbage that Walid Shoebat spews.  This clown had been thoroughly refuted in great details at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/walid_shoebat_islam_satan_rebuttal.htm.


She wrote:

GOAL

My goal with this project is to create the most comprehensive study possible on this subject and to get as close to the sources as possible. All too often dealing with this subject, I have noticed much of the research is presented without sourcing. Most of the research I have come across on this topic is also very brief and lacking in detail. Therefore, I'd like to create this thread in an effort to provide an in depth collection of the information regarding this subject while focusing on original sources.

My response:

Like the garbage that you collected, your "research" also lacks references on the important key issues that you presented against Islam.  The reader will clearly see this in great details throughout this rebuttal of mine, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).


She wrote:

NOTICES

Because others are not able to reply to this thread, please feel free to U2U me in the event:

1). You have a question regarding this topic or an issue you'd like me to investigate. I will do my best to research your inquiry and post the answer on this thread.

2). You are a fellow scholar and are interested in participating in this project. At this time, this is a solo project. However, if this topic interests you and you are willing to research this project using the highest standards of scholarship, please send me a U2U request.

3). You notice any errors in this project's research. Although I plan to be very thorough and meticulous, please contact me with your concerns if you find any of my research suspect. I will investigate your objections and if an error is indeed found to exist, I will publicly post the correction on this thread.

Thanks to everyone who has taken an interest in this topic. I'm very excited about researching this topic and sharing my discoveries.

My response:

Nothing of substance to refute here.


She wrote:

INTRODUCTORY POST: THE ANTICHRIST

Due to the fact most people are aware of the Antichrist figure and because we will be discussing his characteristics and actions throughout this project in depth to make comparisons to the Mahdi, this post won't be too tedious but will simply offer a brief introduction to the history of the Antichrist prophecies.

Note: Not all Christians believe a future, literal Antichrist is to appear. Those who adhere to a PRETERIST view point of Biblical prophecy believe the Antichrist prophecies were fulfilled in the life and actions of Nero while those who adhere to the interpretation of HISTORICISM believe the prophecies have been fulfilled metaphorically throughout the course of this current church age. Historicists believe the Antichrist is not a literal figure but instead a metaphor for the continual spirit of Antichrist prevalent throughout the church age.

Opposed to the Pretersist and Historicist view, this project will consist of the FUTURIST viewpoint taking on the perspective of a still future, literal, and single human Antichrist.


My response:

Ms. AshleyD here has conceded that her points:

1-  Are considered absurd and utter nonsense by many of the Christians out there.

2-  Conceded that her argument is no more than wishful thinking nonsense at best!  The reason I say this is because in the ample verses that I gave in the link above, http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm, the so-called "prophecies" are no more than local events of their times.  This is overwhelmingly clear in the

(a)-  Conversations that took place between the Characters.

(b)-  The battles themselves ended and the victorious ones were DECLARED!

(c)-  The prophecies were speaking about giving Syria and Egypt to Iraq's king, Nebuchadnezzar.

(d)-  The times, dates and places of these events were detailed in the books of the OT, and these events already happened.

Ms. AshleyD said "...this project will consist of the FUTURIST viewpoint..."  I'd like to correct her quote with the following instead:

"...this project will consist of the GARBAGIST viewpoint...", because it is indeed no more than garbage full-filling, and not a Prophecy fulfilling.


She wrote:

A Brief Summary & History of the Antichrist Prophecies

The Antichrist is given many names throughout the Hebrew and Christian texts. These titles include but are not limited to:

The Antichrist.
The Abomination that Causes Desolation.
The Man of Lawlessness.
The Son of Perdition.
The Desolater.
The Little Horn.
The Man of Sin.
The Beast/The Beast out of the Sea.

The Antichrist will ultimately be a powerful political and military world leader of the final one world government prophesied in the Bible.


My response:

"The Antichrist will ultimately be a powerful political and military world leader of the final one world government prophesied in the Bible." 

Yes, and that state's capital will be Israel!  The zionist state is the mother of all evil.  9/11 and the stealing of Trillions from the US and the Western world, and the causes of WWI, WWII are only small examples of their long history of consipiracies and plottings.


She wrote:

Although the Antichrist will be assisted by a religious leader known as 'the false prophet,' the Antichrist will also take part in this movement and demand political as well as religious allegiance. He will implement a one world monetary system as well as create a false peace with Israel who he will later betray. The Antichrist will be a fierce world dictator who will lead mankind into the most terrible period of history the world will ever know, known as the tribulation.

My response:

This is where the neo-con Christians demonstrate how ridiculous and false they are.  No references to your claims.  And when you provide references, we find out that they are completely absurd and don't say what you claim.  The reader can visit the following link to see ample examples of this:  www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.


She wrote:

Examples of Antichrist Prophecies

Because my research partner in his first post will provide a thorough list of Antichrist prophecies and because the prophecies will be analyzed in depth later, the below are only a few examples of Antichrist prophecies found in the Old and New Testaments:


My response:

The reader will see how false your "prophecies" are, because they don't say what you claim.


She wrote:

Example 1: The Two Shepherds of Zechariah 11.

One of the Old Testament prophets, Zechariah, foretold the coming of two shepherds. One would be the 'Good Shepherd' while another 'Evil Shepherd' is yet to come who will be the Antichrist.

Christians believe Jesus was the 'Good Shepherd' promised to come. Even Jesus acknowledges He has fulfilled this role when He states:

I am the good shepherd. The good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep. The hired hand is not the shepherd who owns the sheep. So when he sees the wolf coming, he abandons the sheep and runs away. Then the wolf attacks the flock and scatters it. -John 10:11-12

Reading the above linked Zechariah passage will also help clarify the good shepherd was Jesus with the prophecy:

I told them, "If you think it best, give me my pay. But if not, keep it." So they paid me thirty pieces of silver. And the LORD said to me, "Throw it to the potter"-the handsome price at which they priced me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and threw them into the house of the LORD to the potter.

This is an obvious prophetic reference to us today of the betrayal by Judas. However, both the prophecy in Zechariah and Jesus allude to a future bad shepherd who will be the antithesis of Jesus, the good shepherd. Just like the bad shepherd will 'oppress the flock,' so will the Antichrist.


My response:

Read Zachariah 6 & 7, and you'll see it is about some events that were happening with Babylonia.  While I believe that there are certainly Prophecies about the coming of the Messiah, Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, but the so-called "End of Times Battles" are nothing but lies invented by the neo-cons.

The reader must also know that the numbering of the chapters and verses are modern.  These books, while authored by unknown authors and in unknown places and dates (www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm), were grouped together as one text.

Here is Zachariah 6:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+6&version=CEV

Zechariah 6
Contemporary English Version (CEV)


Eighth Vision: Four Chariots
6 Finally, I looked up and saw four chariots coming from between two bronze mountains. 2 The first chariot was pulled by red horses, and the second by black horses; 3 the third chariot was pulled by white horses, and the fourth by spotted gray horses.

4 “Sir,” I asked the angel. “What do these stand for?”

5 Then he explained, “These are the four winds[a] of heaven, and now they are going out, after presenting themselves to the Lord of all the earth. 6 The chariot with black horses goes toward the north, the chariot with white horses goes toward the west,[b ] and the one with spotted horses goes toward the south.”

7 The horses came out eager to patrol the earth, and the angel told them, “Start patrolling the earth.”

When they had gone on their way, 8 he shouted to me, “Those that have gone to the country in the north will do what the Lord’s Spirit[c] wants them to do there.”

The Chosen Leader
9 The Lord said to me:

10-11 Heldai, Tobijah, and Jedaiah have returned from Babylonia. Collect enough silver and gold from them to make a crown.[d] Then go with them to the house of Josiah son of Zephaniah and put the crown on the head of the high priest Joshua son of Jehozadak.[e] 12-13 Tell him that I, the Lord All-Powerful, say, “Someone will reach out from here like a branch and build a temple for me. I will name him ‘Branch,’ and he will rule with royal honors. A priest will stand beside his throne,[f] and the two of them will be good friends. 14 This crown will be kept in my temple as a reminder and will be taken care of by Heldai,[g] Tobijah, Jedaiah, and Josiah.”[h]

15 When people from distant lands come and help build the temple of the Lord All-Powerful, you will know that the Lord is the one who sent me. And this will happen, if you truly obey the Lord your God.


Footnotes:
a. Zechariah 6:5 winds: Or “spirits.” The Hebrew word may mean either.
b. Zechariah 6:6 goes toward the west: Or “follows behind.”
c. Zechariah 6:8 Lord’s Spirit: Or “Lord.”
d. Zechariah 6:10 a crown: Two ancient translations; Hebrew “some crowns.”
e. Zechariah 6:10 Heldai. . . Jehozadak: Or “Go to the house of Josiah son of Zephaniah, where you will find Heldai, Tobijah, and Jedaiah, who have returned from Babylonia. Collect enough silver and gold from them to make a crown. Then put it on the head of the high priest Joshua son of Jehozadak.”
f. Zechariah 6:12 stand beside his throne: Or “sit on a throne.”
g. Zechariah 6:14 Heldai: One ancient translation; Hebrew “Helem.”
h. Zechariah 6:14 Josiah: One ancient translation; Hebrew “Hen.”


Zechariah 7
New International Version (NIV)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zechariah+7&version=NIV

Justice and Mercy, Not Fasting
7 In the fourth year of King Darius, the word of the Lord came to Zechariah(A) on the fourth day of the ninth month, the month of Kislev.(B) 2 The people of Bethel had sent Sharezer and Regem-Melek, together with their men, to entreat(C) the Lord(D) 3 by asking the priests of the house of the Lord Almighty and the prophets, “Should I mourn(E) and fast in the fifth(F) month, as I have done for so many years?”



She wrote:

Example 2: The Man of Lawlessness of II Thessalonians 2.

This passage is a direct refutation to the concepts held in futurism and historicism claiming the Antichrist has already come or that he will not be a single man but is instead some figurative concept or government system. Some important excerpts from II Thessalonians 2 are:


Don't let anyone deceive you in any way, for (that day will not come) until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God's temple, proclaiming himself to be God.

For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming. The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with the work of Satan displayed in all kinds of counterfeit miracles, signs and wonders, and in every sort of evil that deceives those who are perishing.


Many important things in the above passage:
1). He will be a physical man.

2). He is described as being different from the 'spirit of lawlessness already at work.' This is a contrast between the general Antichrist spirit throughout the age and an actual human figure who will appear and will embody this spirit.


My response:

Let us take a close look at 2 Thessalonians 2:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=II%20Thessalonians%202&version=CEV

2 Thessalonians 2
Contemporary English Version (CEV)


The Lord’s Return
2 When our Lord Jesus returns, we will be gathered up to meet him. So I ask you, my friends, 2 not to be easily upset or disturbed by people who claim that the Lord[a] has already come. They may say that they heard this directly from the Holy Spirit, or from someone else, or even that they read it in one of our letters. 3 But don’t be fooled! People will rebel against God. Then before the Lord returns, the wicked[b ] one who is doomed to be destroyed will appear (Take a look at your Western world today, and tell me what do you see?  A pornified, sexually open and sexually sinful society that is addicted to every sin that GOD Almighty has prohibitted.  Alcoholism, drugs, sexual without marriage, boyfriend-girlfriend relationships, open lewdness, sexually revealing clothes, pornography, dirty music, dirty movies, dirty TV, dirty radio, colonizations, theft, conspiracies, and much more). 4 He will brag and oppose everything that is holy or sacred. He will even sit in God’s temple and claim to be God. 5 Don’t you remember that I told you this while I was still with you?

6 You already know what is holding this wicked one back until it is time for him to come. 7 His mysterious power is already at work, but someone is holding him back. And the wicked one won’t appear until that someone is out of the way. 8 Then he will appear, but the Lord Jesus will kill him simply by breathing on him. He will be completely destroyed by the Lord’s glorious return.

9 When the wicked one appears, Satan will pretend to work all kinds of miracles, wonders, and signs. 10 Lost people will be fooled by his evil deeds. They could be saved, but they will refuse to love the truth and accept it. 11 So God will make sure that they are fooled into believing a lie. 12 All of them will be punished, because they would rather do evil than believe the truth. (Indeed, when one examines the 9/11 consipiracy, and the 2.3 TRILLION dollars that were stolen prior to it, and examines the WWI, WWII, and all other world-major mischief and evil, he'll see that it is the zionist machine that is 100% behind all of it.  And this zionist machine is headquartered in the zionist state of Israel today, which symbol are the evil star and the EYE.  And yes, your pornified western world are overwhelmingly fooled by this machine, and they think serving it is serving GOD Almighty and Good, when all you're doing is serving satan himself.  See Islam's ample and accurate Prophecies about this evil machine during the End of Times at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm.

See also the Hijacked Bible at: http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm).


Be Faithful
13 My friends, the Lord loves you, and it is only natural for us to thank God for you. God chose you to be the first ones to be saved.[c] His Spirit made you holy, and you put your faith in the truth. 14 God used our preaching as his way of inviting you to share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 My friends, that’s why you must remain faithful and follow closely what we taught you in person and by our letters.

16 God our Father loves us. He is kind and has given us eternal comfort and a wonderful hope. We pray that our Lord Jesus Christ and God our Father 17 will encourage you and help you always to do and say the right thing.


Footnotes:
a. 2 Thessalonians 2:2 Lord: The Greek text has “day of the Lord.”
b. 2 Thessalonians 2:3 wicked: Some manuscripts have “sinful.”
c. 2 Thessalonians 2:13 God chose you to be the first ones to be saved: Some manuscripts have “From the beginning God chose you to be saved.”


She wrote:

(to be continued, insha'Allah)

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As'salamu Alaikum dear Brothers and Sisters,

Brother "There is only One God" requested from me to remove three offensive topics that he created.  I appreciate the dear brother's move and I ask Allah Almighty to further Guide him and all of us to the Wisdom and Truth.  Ameen.

Insha'Allah, we'll start a fresh and clean page.  If there is any post or entire topic that a brother (notice no sisters made offensive things here LOL) made that wishes to be removed, then please let me know :).  Send me an email to my account on this blog, and give me the URL and insha'Allah I'll take care of it.

Take care dear brothers,
Osama Abdallah

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Peace be upon you dear Brothers and Sisters,

I would like to take this apportunity to give my condolences to the families of the Newtown's Sandy Hook Elementary School, in Connecticut.  May the children and the rest of the victims who died rest in peace.

This of course doesn't diminish in anyway shape or form, our victims abroad who have died from the injustice that was caused by the zionists through the USA in several Muslim countries and also non-Muslim countries.  I ask Allah Almighty that someday the good Citizens of the USA will see the filth of zionism that is ruling them and deceiving them.  Ameen.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

I was asked this question, and I'd like to ask for your feedback, dear brothers and sisters.  If a Muslim lives in the north, where the sunrise and sunset cycles are not like what we know.  The sun could stay up for months, and the sun could also stay down for months due to the earth's tilting and rotation around the sun.

Allah Almighty Said:

[002:185] The month of Ramadhan, wherein was revealed the Koran, for a guidance to men, and for manifestations of guidance, and for a Discrimination. And he amongst you who beholds this month then let him fast it (فمن شهد منكم الشهر فليصمه); but he who is sick or on a journey, then another number of days;- God desires for you what is easy, and desires not for you what is difficult,- that ye may complete the number, and say, 'Great is God,' for that He has guided you; haply ye may give thanks.

[002:187] You are allowed on the night of the fast to approach your wives: they are your garment and ye are their garment. God knoweth that ye defraud yourselves therein, so He turneth unto you and forgiveth you! Now, therefore, go in unto them with full desire for that which God hath ordained for you; and eat and drink until ye can discern a white thread from a black thread by the daybreak: then fast strictly till night (وكلوا واشربوا حتي يتبين لكم الخيط الابيض من الخيط الاسود من الفجر ثم اتموا الصيام الى الليل), and go not in unto them, but rather pass the time in the Mosques. These are the bounds set up by God: therefore come not near them. Thus God maketh his signs clear to men that they may fear Him.

The following article gives an answer in great details: http://islamqa.info/en/ref/5842.

"So the Muslims in the country mentioned in the question have to define the times of prayer in that land, basing those times on the closest country in which the night and day can be distinguished from one another and the times of the five daily prayers are known according to the signs described in sharee’ah, within each twenty-four hour period.

Similarly they also have to fast Ramadaan. They can set the time for their fast and determine the beginning and end of Ramadaan and the times of starting and breaking the fast each day by the dawn and sunset each day in the closest country in which night can be distinguished from day. The total period must add up to twenty-four hours, because of the hadeeth of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) about the Dajjaal mentioned above, in which he told his companions how to determine the times of the five daily prayers. There is no difference in this regard between fasting and prayer.

And Allaah is the Source of strength. May Allaah send blessings and peace upon our Prophet Muhammad and his family and companions."


(http://islamqa.info/en/ref/5842)

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Did you Know? (Scientific Facts) / What is the area of the planet Earth?
« on: December 07, 2012, 11:16:34 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

The formula to measure the surface area of a sphere is:

pi * diameter^2 (or 4 * pi * radius^2)

EDIT: U R 2 oblivious -- Volume is calculated with:

(pi * diameter^3) / 6 (or 4/3 * pi * radius^3)

The earth is not a perfect sphere (bit flattened at the poles) but close enough for this. The radius of the earth is 6.37 x 10^6 meters. If you do the math you get:

1,097,509,500,000,000,000,000 cubic meters (or 1.09 sextillion cubic meters). Quite a lot and the earth is not even all that big for a planet!

The exact answer after fiddling with exact measurements for a not quite spherical earth is 1,083,206,246,123,080,894,852 cubic meters.

(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080222164107AAfjcGh)

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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Did you Know? (Scientific Facts) / Facts about the Noble Quran
« on: December 07, 2012, 11:07:37 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum,

Did you know that the Noble Quran has 6236 Noble Verses?  See www.QuranSearch.com.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS / Website has been updated.
« on: December 05, 2012, 08:04:54 AM »
As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

The website was updated on Wednesday, 12/5/2012.  Please visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/whatsnew.htm.
 
Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

I am sorry for the strong language in the Subject title, but there is a sweeping deception that is taking over all of the Christians about the so-called "End of Times Prophecies against Egypt, Syria and the rest of Arabia."

They often quote Isaiah 17 and Isaiah 19, and other books and verses.  Yet, after careful examination of these books, it is beyond any doubt and question that the verses are speaking about giving Syria and Egypt to Iraq's King, Nebuchadnezzar!  And it is historically known that Iraq never invaded Egypt in the past!  So, not only we have unfulfilled "prophecies" in these corrupt books, but they virtually have NOTHING to do with what is happening in the Middle East today.

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My brief update on 2/27/2013...

Just wanted to bring to your attention my favorite part of this detailed refutation to the doofus Walid Shoebat, who nick-names himself as "Wali".  It is the following verses are among many below:

Daniel 11
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43 and he will take its rich treasures of gold and silver. He will also conquer Libya and Ethiopia.[g] 44 But he will be alarmed by news from the east and the north, and he will become furious and cause great destruction. 45 After this, he will set up camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion (Wait a minute! Did captin "crunch" Wali now invade Israel too???). Then he will be destroyed (aww, poor Wali), and no one will be able to save him.


So the enemy will be all over the map.  He will invade Libya, Ethiopia, Egypt and even Israel (he will camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion).  Obviously, this couldn't be any more absurd and far from reality, if you want to be like the neo-con zionists, and consider it an End of Times "prophecy" AGAINST THE ARABSI mean wouldn't you agree with me that these are history stories (perhaps even man-made fables) and not End of Times Prophecies?

Besides Walid, WHO INVADED LIBYA TODAY?  Was it not the USA and NATO?  I am not saying that this is a prophecy about them.  I don't believe this is a prophecy at all!  But I just wanted this to serve as a brief demonstration to show the reader how low, ridiculous and hateful the neo-con christians and zionists are, especially towards Arabs.  We see how none of these so-called "prophecies" are modern-day ones.  These "prophecies" are:

1-  Either old prophecies that already came to pass and are long gone.

2-  Are lies invented by man, as the Bible was indisputably proven to contain fabrications and lies and alterations in it, ironically according to its own theologians.  Not only that, but according to the Bible's own theologians' commentaries on almost every single Bible's book and gospel (indexes on history and information before each chapter), the Bible's books and gospels were:

(a)-  Written in unknown places.
(b)-  Written in unknown dates.
(c)-  Written by unknown people.
(d)-  Altered by unknown how many times, and by whom.

Don't believe it?  Visit: http://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm and read the MANY QUOTATIONS that I quoted for almost every single book and gospel.

Continuing with this rebuttal....

For ample more proofs, please visit:

1-  http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,666.msg1540.html#msg1540.

2-  http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,711.msg1766.html#msg1766 (A Rebuttal to "Correlations Between the Antichrist and the Islamic Mahdi").

3-  http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,775.0.html  (Walid Shoebat's End of Times Verses all analyzed and exposed).

4-  Walid Shoebat falsely turned a prayer that was rejected by Yahweh Almighty, into "prophecy": http://www.answering-christianity.com/walid_mixing_acts_psalm_judges.wmv.  Walid even calls it "the most amazing piece of prophecy in the Bible", but yet, it was no more than a rejected prayer, which in turn caused for the Israelites to get badly defeated in the end, because of them (including with them, Gideon, their Prophet and leader) turning to idol worship after Yahweh Almighty granted them victory.  He, the Almighty, rejected their prayer and caused them to get annhialated.  See Psalm 83, Judges 8, and Jeremiah 21.  Yet, these hate mongering neo-con zionists fabricate lies and turn ancient history and stories into "prophecies".

Also, keep in mind the following statement from Jesus Christ along with many others like it throughout the New Testament about the relationship between the Old and New Testaments:

Luke 5:36
36 He told them this parable: “No one tears a piece out of a new garment to patch an old one. Otherwise, they will have torn the new garment, and the patch from the new will not match the old.

Not that the neo-cons' Old Testament stories about the Middle East are modern-day End of Times Prophecies (because they have already come to pass as we will see below and throughout this section), but the New Testament further states that the Old Covenant and its Laws and any Prophecy that it may have.

Please feel free to share more quotes, or your comments and thoughts.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

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