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Title: every living thing from water?
Post by: karim fattah on August 26, 2017, 11:31:41 PM
salam,

quran 21:30 says: Have those who disbelieved not considered that the heavens and the earth were a joined entity, and We separated them and made from water every living thing? Then will they not believe?

we as muslims all see this as a scientific miracle verse because it says made from water every living thing, but i say a video on this verse from a non muslim making this argument, if you could help me refute it inshaAllah

there are 2 arguments:

1. the argument in short is that all living things are not made from water at all, it isnt like a drop from water was there and it turned into us. Living things are not made from water. They require water to function. the verse would be correct if it would say, all living things contain water, but because the verse says from water we made every living thing, it seems to say that water turned into a man

2. arent jinn and angels living beings, are they made from water?
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: karim fattah on August 26, 2017, 11:41:42 PM
to add to the first argument

quran 24:45 says: Allah has created every [living] creature from water,

with whom i am having a discussion claims this verse is an error, because creatures are not created from water, they contain water, the verse seems to indicate that water turned into a man, but rather man contains water, therefor this verse is incorrect because it said creatures were created from water when they contain water.

oxford dictionary says: Bring (something) into existence is the definition of create

water does not make man come into existence does it?

same thing applies with quarn 25:54, And it is He who has created from water a human being

please answer guys i need help with this

jazakallah khair.
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: Syedsamad on August 27, 2017, 01:33:24 AM
Quran does not say every living thing is created only from water Quran says Allah created man from nutfah dust and many other elements
To whom is this book being addressed to ? To Jinns or humans ?
Whom is Allah reminding to about his creation ?

Talking about we are not created by water rather it is inside us
Here is an example :- when we make a chemical composition we mix two three chemicals and when the composition is complete we can say element x is present inside the composition or we can say compostionion was made by chemical x and other elements
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: QuranSearchCom on August 27, 2017, 04:56:18 AM
Ja'alna does not mean "created".  It means "made", "evolved", "developed".  I have proven this from the Glorious Quran before at:

www.answering-christianity.com/bones_then_muscles_wrapping.htm

Khalaqna means "we created".


As to from water every living thing ON EARTH was developed, built, evolved, made, this had been scientifically proven to be 100% true:

www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#life

Since you're pulling lies out of your anus like your childhood priest probably did to you in your church, then I warn you this:

Do not write any Islamic sacred noun without capitalizing the first letter.  Allah, Quran, Muhammad, etc... all must be written the way you see them here.  Otherwise, I will ban you.

I don't mind infidels here.  But when infidels pretend to be Muslims come here, then the matter becomes different.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: QuranSearchCom on August 27, 2017, 05:03:22 AM
And since you're a polytheist trinitarian pagan who speaks Arabic, then why don't you rescue your crucified friend in polytheism and try to refute my challenge here:

www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm

Go through my images and show me where I made and error or lied.

Osama
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: Syedsamad on August 27, 2017, 07:46:12 AM
Yeah  I too doubt this dumb guy the day he came here he only has been trying to put up childsish allegations on Quran here
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: QuranSearchCom on August 27, 2017, 02:43:38 PM
Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother, Syed. 

I want everyone here to see the Arab coward and infidel, "Karim", how he backed away from my challenge about the Glorious Quran's Numerical Miracles, above.  I said it before and I say it again, these Arab infidels WILL NOT DARE to take on the Glorious Quran's Numerical Miracles.  They only use the dajjal Rashad Khalifa's numbers, which had been proven to not add up.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/rk_cult_exposed.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: every living thing from water?
Post by: submit on September 01, 2017, 12:37:59 AM
water was among the early creations. hence the throne of God above water