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Hello!
Thank you for all your hard work on this website. I am a Christian, but have been interested to know what Muslims believe. A website like this takes a lot of time and hard work, so thank you for that!
In your article entitled, "Can Muslims take non-Muslims as friends?", you say, "It is clear that Islam doesn't prohibit personal friendships with Jews and Christians or any other people." You also say, "Muslim men are allowed to marry Jewish and Christian women."
But in your article entitled, "Marriage in Islam", you say, "If we are not allowed to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors, do you think we should consider marrying from them?"
That is a contradiction. Can you clarify, please?
Thank you!
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Hello!
Thank you for all your hard work on this website. I am a Christian, but have been interested to know what Muslims believe. A website like this takes a lot of time and hard work, so thank you for that!
In your article entitled, "Can Muslims take non-Muslims as friends?", you say, "It is clear that Islam doesn't prohibit personal friendships with Jews and Christians or any other people." You also say, "Muslim men are allowed to marry Jewish and Christian women."
But in your article entitled, "Marriage in Islam", you say, "If we are not allowed to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors, do you think we should consider marrying from them?"
That is a contradiction. Can you clarify, please?
Thank you!
I will assume since no one has answered that you all agree with me that this is a contradiction in your teaching.
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As'salamu Alaikum brother TheTruthSeeker,
The first statement is from the Glorious Quran about Muslim men allowed to marry Jewish and Christian women, and about being friends with all non-hostile and peaceful non-Muslims.
The second statement is an opinion about Muslim men shouldn't marry non-Muslim women. This would prevent future problems down the road, especially under the systems that don't follow Islam.
Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
Also visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac22.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac23.htm#links
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salamu Alaikum brother TheTruthSeeker,
The first statement is from the Glorious Quran about Muslim men allowed to marry Jewish and Christian women, and about being friends with all non-hostile and peaceful non-Muslims.
The second statement is an opinion about Muslim men shouldn't marry non-Muslim women. This would prevent future problems down the road, especially under the systems that don't follow Islam.
Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
Also visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac22.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac23.htm#links
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
The article said, "If we are not allowed" to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors, do you think we should consider marrying from them?"
That doesn't make sense if it's just an opinion.
Who has said you are not allowed?
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Again, Islam allows for Muslim men to marry Jewish and Christian women. So being friends and living in harmony and peace with them is not forbidden in Islam.
And the Noble Verse doesn't say don't take them as friends besides Allah. It says don't take them as ALLIES AND PROTECTORS over Allah, especially against other Muslims. This is because they do remain as disbelievers. Allah Almighty is our NUMBER ONE ALLY.
Now, Islam does not prohibit making alliance with non-Muslims in general. But you can't make alliance with them against other Muslims, or against what Allah Almighty Commanded.
Please provide the link to the articles that you are referring to, and give precise quotes. And to the reader, please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/friends.htm
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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Again, Islam allows for Muslim men to marry Jewish and Christian women. So being friends and living in harmony and peace with them is not forbidden in Islam.
And the Noble Verse doesn't say don't take them as friends besides Allah. It says don't take them as ALLIES AND PROTECTORS over Allah, especially against other Muslims. This is because they do remain as disbelievers. Allah Almighty is our NUMBER ONE ALLY.
Now, Islam does not prohibit making alliance with non-Muslims in general. But you can't make alliance with them against other Muslims, or against what Allah Almighty Commanded.
Please provide the link to the articles that you are referring to, and give precise quotes. And to the reader, please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/sami_zaatri/friends.htm
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Yes, but you said in the article: "If we are not allowed" to take the Jews and Christians as friends AND protectors. That is a very confusing and contradictory statement if a Muslim CAN in fact take a Jew or Christian to be a friend.
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To 'QuranSearchCom':
The quote has been taken from: http://www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm (http://www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm)
(The same one you linked in your post)
The precise quote (the last line of text under the first two headings):
Important Note: If we are not allowed to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors, do you think we should consider marrying from them?
To 'thetruthseeker':
From what I understand, the author of this article is using the word "Friends" in the sense that the Qur'an uses it, which is somewhat different from the usual definition of a "Friend". If the explanations on this website weren't enough, to explain it further consider the following:
If a friend is defined as – someone with whom a person has relationships based on sympathy, kindness, concern which includes charitable help and support, condolence and consolation and any well-meaning attitude of wishing well OR customary cordiality, adequacy in courtesy, pleasant and friendly behaviour and mannerly politeness – then, non-Muslims can indeed be taken as friends by Muslims.
The above is in accordance with the book Ma’áriful-Qur’án by Mauláná Mufti Muhammad Shafi’ (Volume 2, p. 56-58)
https://ia802707.us.archive.org/2/items/maarifulquran-english-pdf/MaarifulquranEnglishPdf-Vol2-Page001-672ByMuftiShafiUsmaniRah.pdf (https://ia802707.us.archive.org/2/items/maarifulquran-english-pdf/MaarifulquranEnglishPdf-Vol2-Page001-672ByMuftiShafiUsmaniRah.pdf)
The Maulana uses Sunnah of the Prophet & his companions as evidence for this.
Regards.
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As'salamu Alaikum brothers,
I have updated the article with much clearer note and also with two Noble Verses that make the point very clear. Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm.
Thanks to TheTruthSeeker for pointing this out. I greatly appreciate it. This article was one of the early ones on this website.
Regards,
Osama Abdallah
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As'salamu Alaikum brothers,
I have updated the article with much clearer note and also with two Noble Verses that make the point very clear. Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm.
Thanks to TheTruthSeeker for pointing this out. I greatly appreciate it. This article was one of the early ones on this website.
Regards,
Osama Abdallah
Thank you so much! I appreciate you updating the article.
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To 'QuranSearchCom':
The quote has been taken from: http://www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm (http://www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm)
(The same one you linked in your post)
The precise quote (the last line of text under the first two headings):
Important Note: If we are not allowed to take the Jews and Christians as friends and protectors, do you think we should consider marrying from them?
To 'thetruthseeker':
From what I understand, the author of this article is using the word "Friends" in the sense that the Qur'an uses it, which is somewhat different from the usual definition of a "Friend". If the explanations on this website weren't enough, to explain it further consider the following:
If a friend is defined as – someone with whom a person has relationships based on sympathy, kindness, concern which includes charitable help and support, condolence and consolation and any well-meaning attitude of wishing well OR customary cordiality, adequacy in courtesy, pleasant and friendly behaviour and mannerly politeness – then, non-Muslims can indeed be taken as friends by Muslims.
The above is in accordance with the book Ma’áriful-Qur’án by Mauláná Mufti Muhammad Shafi’ (Volume 2, p. 56-58)
https://ia802707.us.archive.org/2/items/maarifulquran-english-pdf/MaarifulquranEnglishPdf-Vol2-Page001-672ByMuftiShafiUsmaniRah.pdf (https://ia802707.us.archive.org/2/items/maarifulquran-english-pdf/MaarifulquranEnglishPdf-Vol2-Page001-672ByMuftiShafiUsmaniRah.pdf)
The Maulana uses Sunnah of the Prophet & his companions as evidence for this.
Regards.
Thank you for the clarification!
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As'salamu Alaikum brothers,
I have updated the article with much clearer note and also with two Noble Verses that make the point very clear. Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/marriage_islam.htm.
Thanks to TheTruthSeeker for pointing this out. I greatly appreciate it. This article was one of the early ones on this website.
Regards,
Osama Abdallah
This is a great way to put it: "Now regular friendship and kindness are allowed to all non-hostile disbelievers." I certainly feel this way about non-hostile Muslims and other non-Christians. Thank you again Osama!
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This is a great way to put it: "Now regular friendship and kindness are allowed to all non-hostile disbelievers." I certainly feel this way about non-hostile Muslims and other non-Christians. Thank you again Osama!
Thank you dear brother, TheTruthSeeker. May Allah Almighty continue to lead you and open your heart to Islam. Ameen. You are a nice person and a kind one. Happy Holiday for the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ, our Messiah :).
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
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This is a great way to put it: "Now regular friendship and kindness are allowed to all non-hostile disbelievers." I certainly feel this way about non-hostile Muslims and other non-Christians. Thank you again Osama!
Thank you dear brother, TheTruthSeeker. May Allah Almighty continue to lead you and open your heart to Islam. Ameen. You are a nice person and a kind one. Happy Holiday for the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ, our Messiah :).
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
And same to you, Osama :)