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Title: I dont understand this ??
Post by: Isa27James on December 25, 2014, 11:58:22 AM
Assalam  alykam


God in the OT addresses people as my son and  describes them as his beggoten son 

i know this is metaphorical meaning  e.g.  son means servant and begotten means chosen

my issue is why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus And Abraham  and other prophets   . and now  condems these tittles?   why woul God give room to misuse these terms like the greek and romans did    please help me understand  Insha'Allah
Title: Re: I dont understand this ??
Post by: QuranSearchCom on December 26, 2014, 02:04:29 AM
Assalam  alykam


God in the OT addresses people as my son and  describes them as his beggoten son 

i know this is metaphorical meaning  e.g.  son means servant and begotten means chosen

my issue is why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus And Abraham  and other prophets   . and now  condems these tittles?   why woul God give room to misuse these terms like the greek and romans did    please help me understand  Insha'Allah

As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

We actually have them in the Glorious Quran.  They're not the misleading translated-into-English ones that you find in the Bible.  The originals were different, and the Glorious Quran explained that.  Visit:

http://www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

The problem with the Jews and Christians is that they exaggerated this Honor from GOD Almighty so much, that they created the false religion of trinity out of it.  This is one of the main things Islam came to fix.

Also visit:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_creating.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

Please ask any and all questions that you have.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: I dont understand this ??
Post by: submit on December 26, 2014, 08:28:26 AM
Father, (some use Mother), Son are terms used by Israelites simply to indicate their beloved relationship to God. The Jews believed in One God, however there are some depending on which era,, that have disbeleived and took Ezra as Son of God. And Paul a Jew repeating the same disbelieve and took Jesus as Son of God.
Obviously the two Son of God figures must have done miracles comparable to God. So it was easy for the disgraced one to convince them to disbelieve.
 
The same happened to early generations of Adam (a.s) descendants, they end up from believing to disbelieving One God. Either they forgot or they no longer fear God for God do not grant what they wish, thus they seek thru other means (idols) for miracles. Again the disgraced one must have answered their needs thus convincing them to disbelieve.

Why did God agree to the term requested by fallen disgraced one in the past. Certainly, it can only be one reason which is to be a test for mankind.