36:41 noah and flood

[pascoe]

That only the Arabs and children of Israel came from the ark not all mankind is that right jazzakallah

[pascoe]

Is that right also was noah's nation the first ever nation to commit shirk or were there others jazzakallah at the same time

[pascoe]

Any thoughts sorry

[pascoe]

Also the you in 69:11 speaks in 2nd person not 3rd so the you is too them or all of us

[AMuslimDude213]

In 69:11 it is to them,Allah is speaking from a different perspective here,in this verse he I see speaking to Nuh and his people and saying "You" as in Nuh,etc,etc and only Egypt,no there is no mention of Egypt it was most probably in Iraq-Syria where the flood happened.

[pascoe]

True so when it speaks in second person it is to noah and the believers but what does 69:12 mean is that to noah as well

[pascoe]

Also isn't 36:41 for all us us because in 36:40 it says a sigh for them because the verse before that is talking about the universe so normally normally when it says a sign it's talking to all of us so when it says a sign for them is that we carried there ancestors in the ship doesn't that mean all humans so all of us came from the ark because it says a sign and the universe so for all of us if you know what I mean sorry

[pascoe]

Unless 36:41 is talking about ships in general and it has nothing to do with noah's arak

[AMuslimDude213]

And on 69:12 it tells us to get a lesson out of Noah PBUH and reflect on his life.

[AMuslimDude213]

36:41,Yes i do think this is about ships only. If it was Nuh A.S there would have been Hadith narrations behind it saying so,but none of that is to be found,so I think that this verse is just telling us how our ancestors immigrated.

[pascoe]

Ok so 69:12 is for the Arabs semitic people only when speaking about there ancestors but for all of us about the story that Allah saved the ancestors of the Arabs semitic people etc

[QuranSearchCom]

That only the Arabs and children of Israel came from the ark not all mankind is that right jazzakallah

Neither.  The flood of Noah was limited to certain people only, and not all of the earth, nor to all of the Arabs or the Middle East.  It came to limited people, perhaps a village or a group of villages:

[007:059]  We sent Noah to his people. He said: "O my people! worship God! ye have no other god but Him. I fear for you the punishment of a dreadful day!

Ok so 69:12 is for the Arabs semitic people only when speaking about there ancestors but for all of us about the story that Allah saved the ancestors of the Arabs semitic people etc

Nothing mentioned in the Noble Verse about only Arabs or semitic people.  As brother Muslim Dude said, this is an example for us.  Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslims to walk through earth and learn from the ancient people's stories:

[003:137]  Many were the Ways of Life that have passed away before you: travel through the earth, and see what was the end of those who rejected Truth.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

[pascoe]

Assalam alikum Osama thanks I was wondering what does the verse 69:11 and 36:41 mean to you when you read them jazzakallah

[pascoe]

But also a side note it does say in 17:3 that the children of Israel came from the ark also 7:69 says AD was the Khalifa after noah and thamud in 7:74 after AD which implies they were descendents of one of another and 11:48 says some nations that came from the ark etc sorry for not posting the verses I'm only using a mobile so it's not the best devices sorry but anyway yea what does 69:11 and 35:41 mean too you jazzakallah

[pascoe]

Any thoughts Bro on what you think 69:11 means to you Bro jazzakallah