As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,
I'd like to consider the following:
1- Pontus pilot stood between TWO MEN that had the same exact TITLES, i.e., "first" and "last" names; both were called Isa Baraba (Jesus son of his father). In Arabic and Greek, Jesus is called
ISA and IESU. In Latin, he is called IESUS. Let us look at what the Bible says:
Setup for Conjecture, the cursed ones indeed were:The two Jesuses and Pilot:Matthew 2716 At that time they had a well-known prisoner whose name was Jesus Barabbas (son of his father, suggests he was a bastard).
17 So when the crowd had gathered, Pilate asked them, “Which one do you want me to release to you: Jesus Barabbas, or Jesus who is called the Messiah?”Since our Jesus was fatherless (his father was not known), then for sure, people also called him
Jesus Barabbas, or at least this would've been his official name during the execution day. Please visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/conversation_i_had_on_crucifixion_lie.htm2- Not everyday crucifixion events happened. So you can imagine with me here that THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE have flocked to witness the event, especially that life back then was quite boring. No TVs, no internet, no cell phones, no technology. So, such event would definitely be quite an entertainment for them, and would be worthy to go and see.
3- So, since the OTHER JESUS,
was wanted for murdering Roman soldiers, then you would also agree with me that he was not going to live to see tomorrow! He was going to die for sure that day.
Survive the Cross = YOU LIVE!It is also important to know that if one survives the cross, then he can be kept alive and not to be killed, especially if the ruler doesn't want him killed from the first place:
1- From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion#Survival:
"Survival
Since death does not follow immediately on crucifixion, survival after a short period of crucifixion is possible, as in the case of those who choose each year as a devotional practice to be non-lethally crucified.
There is an ancient record of one person who survived a crucifixion that was intended to be lethal, but that was interrupted. Josephus recounts: "I saw many captives crucified, and remembered three of them as my former acquaintance. I was very sorry at this in my mind, and went with tears in my eyes to Titus, and told him of them; so he immediately commanded them to be taken down, and to have the greatest care taken of them, in order to their recovery; yet two of them died under the physician's hands, while the third recovered."[55] Josephus gives no details of the method or duration of the crucifixion of his three friends before their reprieve."Pilot, his Wife, and the "innocent man":Contrast this with Pilot and his wife who didn't want Jesus dead:
Matthew 2719 While Pilate was sitting on the judge’s seat, his wife sent him this message: “Don’t have anything to do with that innocent man (innocent man??), for I have suffered a great deal today in a dream because of him.”
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24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!” So both Pilot and his wife considered our Jesus to be an innocent man. And Pilot further says that he is innocent from Jesus' blood. This further proves that if Jesus was alive in the cave, then no one would've wanted him dead. Instead, they would've all been more than willing to offer him medicine and treatment.
2- From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion#Legal_execution:
In today's laws in some of the countries that still use crucifixion for capital punishment, we read:
"Theoretically, crucifixion is still one of the Hadd punishments in Iran.[103][104] If a crucified person were to survive three days of crucifixion, that person would be allowed to live.[105] Execution by hanging is described as follows: "In execution by hanging, the prisoner will be hung on a hanging truss which should look like a cross, while his (her) back is toward the cross, and (s)he faces the direction of Mecca [in Saudi Arabia], and his (her) legs are vertical and distant from the ground."[106]"3- From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crucifixion#Japan:
Also, keep in mind that Jesus was only placed for few hours on the cross. Yet, we have stories from World War II where people actually survived the crucifixion despite being crucified on the cross for many long tens (10s) of hours:
"Crucifixion was used as a punishment for prisoners of war during World War II. Ringer Edwards, an Australian prisoner of war, was crucified for killing cattle, along with two others. He survived 63 hours before being let down."The Decreed Conjecture!4- Putting Islam aside, it seems quite clear that even in the Bible, Allah Almighty has set up this event to cause confusion among the thousands and thousands from the crowd. So, while OUR JESUS was taken to the cross, the other Jesus was executed. Both the Bible and the Glorious Quran agree that
Jesus was never killed. And we've seen how the Romans didn't kill those who survive the cross. Once the execution fails, the condemned to death gets to live.
Keep in mind that both Jesuses also most likely looked very similar. Both had very long beards and hairs, light or brown skin, dark hair, etc... Both basically looked Middle Eastern. So here we have:
1- Their names are exactly the same.
2- They were to be executed on the same exact day.
3- They both had very similar looks, if not even the same, since it is Allah Almighty
who planned the whole conjecture.
After all, Allah Almighty did Say in the Glorious Quran:
[022:004] About whom it has been decreed, that he will lead astray anyone who abides by him, and that he will steer his flock straight into the torment of hellfire.[004:088] Why are ye divided concerning the ungodly into two parties; since God hath overturned them for what they have committed? Will ye direct him whom God hath led astray; since for him whom God shall lead astray, thou shalt find no true path?Executed on the same exact day??This couldn't be a coincident. The two Jesuses were executed on the same exact day?? Not that one was executed in February and the other in September, for example? Not even in the same month but on two different days? NO. They had to stand with Pontus Pilot, with the latter standing in between them, both on the same exact day.
It is very clear that Allah Almighty had set these people up for a DECREED CONJECTURE!
I also would like to repeat the following statement that I said earlier above to brother Fadi:
"Allah Almighty used the word SUBSTITUTE (BADAL) 35 times in 34 Noble Verses throughout the Glorious Quran. Yet, this Noble Word was never used in Noble Verse 4:157."5- You can now see very clearly that the people would start propagating their confusions and mixups. SOME WOULD SAY HE WAS KILLED,
"I saw him". Others would say:
"NO MAN, HE GOT CRUCIFIED". The roamers were flying left and right
among the thousands and thousands of people. This is where Allah Almighty came to settle the score once and for all by saying:
(a)- THEY NEITHER KILLED HIM.
(b)- NOR CRUCIFIED HIM.
(c)- But it appeared as such to them.So here, Allah Almighty listed the roamers. He addressed them. And He then sums it all up by Saying at the end of the Noble Verse:
(a)- BUT FOR SURE, THEY NEVER KILLED HIM:[004:157] And their saying: Surely we have killed the Messiah, Isa son of Marium, the apostle of Allah; and they did not kill him nor did they crucify him, but it appeared to them so (like Isa) and most surely those who differ therein are only in a doubt about it; they have no knowledge respecting it, but only follow a conjecture, and they killed him not for sure.This includes all of the roamers on how he supposedly got killed. Allah Almighty puts it all to rest by assuring all mankind that Jesus was never killed in anyway, shape or form. If Jesus was not even there on earth that day, then this last part of the Noble Verse would be more accurate to say something like:
More accurate:"...they never even touched him."
"...they never seized him."
"...they never even got hold of him."But no, the Noble Verse says "THEY NEVER KILLED HIM, FOR SURE". This clearly says that Jesus was there in the event. Again, I would like to repeat the following statement that I said earlier above to brother Fadi:
"Allah Almighty used the word SUBSTITUTE (BADAL) 35 times in 34 Noble Verses throughout the Glorious Quran. Yet, this Noble Word was never used in Noble Verse 4:157."Conjecture by Osama Abdallah?Absolutely not. I did not conjecture. I instead connected the dots. And the evidence above makes perfect sense and is standing on very solid ground. And I don't mean to be obnoxious, but I MUST repeat the following statement that I said earlier above to brother Fadi:
"Allah Almighty used the word SUBSTITUTE (BADAL) 35 times in 34 Noble Verses throughout the Glorious Quran. Yet, this Noble Word was never used in Noble Verse 4:157."I challenge ALL MUSLIMS to refute this. Again, please also visit:
www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/conversation_i_had_on_crucifixion_lie.htmThe Salafi and Shia:On a side note, I have one question to those from the salafies and shias, who say that the interpretation of the STUNNING Scientific Miracles of the Glorious Quran are false, because the Hadiths do not say what we say today, then I want to ask them how come your hadiths are silent about Jesus' crucifixion?? You have to conjecture and put out several theories, including
"Judas substituted Jesus".
This attitude that if it's not in the hadiths then it's false has no merits. It is nothing but conjecture and falsehood from the cults that do Islam so much harm:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac11.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htmAnd I further want to renew my challenge to all of the cultists to refute the
NUMERICAL MIRACLES in the Glorious Quran, and to also refute the ample definitions that we provided from the dictionaries that thoroughly demonstrate the Glorious Quran's Scientific Miracles:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#linksThose who attack the Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran,
NEVER DARE to attack the Numerical Miracles! I have yet to see one from them step forward and refute these STUNNING MIRACLES.
Cultists can make empty assertions. But their empty words have no merits and not substance. And I love how when I make them mad enough, they call me an apostate. This happened several times before. Gotta love the emptiness of those people, and how it occurs to them to resort to these name-callings against other Muslims.
Furthermore from
www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2445.msg11096.html#msg11096:
I would like everyone to notice the following important points:
1- Notice how the infidels try to discredit the Glorious Quran's STUNNING Scientific and Numerical Miracles by saying that the Greeks wrote it before.
2- Of course, they have to resort to big leaps of lies and exaggerations to prove their lies about both the Greeks and the Glorious Quran.
3- But if you look past their lies and smoke screens, what do you see? You see that
they concede that the Quran indeed contains the Scientific Miracles that they can't refute.
4- And I have yet to see one monkey from them dare to refute the NUMERICAL MIRACLES. Here is an example:
It's funny that when I wrote my article about
Paul calling GOD Almighty a fool, three Arab stooges from the infidels' team jumped to refute my Arabic analysis. LOL. Over a small article, they popped out of the sewage and rushed to "refute me". You can see the link here:
www.answering-christianity.com/pauls_blasphemy_against_god.htmYet, I've had the NUMERICAL MIRACLES
for years now, and no rodent ever stepped forward to refute them. Yeah. So much for their "refutations" of the Holy Quran's Miracles. Again, visit the following links and cut all of the BS from your minds:
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#main_sectionsIslam is the Divine Truth!Islam is the Divine Truth of GOD Almighty. Don't let any doomed-to-Hell infidel make you question that, my dear brothers and sisters in Islam. Be at peace. The Holy Quran is Perfect and Miraculous. And most importantly, it is Divine and from Allah Almighty.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah