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Title: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on January 28, 2013, 10:19:10 am
As-Salamu 'Alaykum, brother Osama Abdallah. I was wondering if you can tell me where the "Heart of the earth" is.

For example, in this article: http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jesuscrucified.htm (http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jesuscrucified.htm) it says the "Heart of the earth"

is Mecca, but in this article: https://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/crucifixion_of_judas.htm (https://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/crucifixion_of_judas.htm)

on your website, it says the "Heart of the earth" is Sychar in Samaria. So I just wanted to know which one it is, because I could see why it could be Mecca. And I could see why it could be Sychar in Samaria. I just wanted to know your thoughts on where the "Heart of the earth" might be, Jazak'Allah Khair P.S. I'm also palestinian. :)
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: QuranSearchCom on January 31, 2013, 10:16:21 am
As-Salamu 'Alaykum, brother Osama Abdallah. I was wondering if you can tell me where the "Heart of the earth" is.

For example, in this article: http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jesuscrucified.htm (http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/jesuscrucified.htm) it says the "Heart of the earth"

is Mecca, but in this article: https://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/crucifixion_of_judas.htm (https://www.answering-christianity.com/abdullah_smith/crucifixion_of_judas.htm)

on your website, it says the "Heart of the earth" is Sychar in Samaria. So I just wanted to know which one it is, because I could see why it could be Mecca. And I could see why it could be Sychar in Samaria. I just wanted to know your thoughts on where the "Heart of the earth" might be, Jazak'Allah Khair P.S. I'm also palestinian. :)
 
 

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Tariq,

Sorry for not being able to reply back earlier.  The heart of the earth akhi is the cave (like any bear's or moutain lion's cave) that Jesus Christ was placed in after the alleged crucifixion.  In fact, the New Testament say it was a roomy cave, and it belong to a rich man.  Christ was placed there in the cave, and above ground (he was never burried), and received medical treatment and massaging by Mary Magdalene and others, according to the New Testament's accounts themselves.  This is also where Jesus became a Messiah according to Christians.  He got annointed (rubbed with oil as this is the Jewish tradition of choosing a king) while in the cave, and from there he became the Messiah (King of the Jews).

Jesus Christ never died.  He was always alive and remained alive even after the alleged crucifixion.  No resurrection happened.  The Bible's use of "Rose from the Dead" is a symbolic term that means he didn't die, and that he defeated death by remaining alive.  The Old Testament has also a RISING FROM THE DEAD incident also between Abraham and Isaac, peace be upon them.  Yet, Isaac was never crucified nor died when he "ROSE FROM THE DEAD".

For ample more details, quotes and proofs, visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on January 31, 2013, 11:51:53 pm
Masha'Allah, Jazak'Allah Khair Akhi
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on February 04, 2013, 03:34:37 am
I would like to know more about this articles in the links I posted above, Jazak'Allah Khair
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on February 11, 2013, 11:03:18 am
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Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 11, 2013, 04:32:03 pm
Dear brother,

When the Bible says heart of the earth, it does not mean a cave.

Mathew 12:40  is the verse we refer to.
40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

The heart of the earth is synonymous to deep parts of the earth or the nether regions.

Ephesians 4:8-9
8 This is why it[a] says:
"When he ascended on high,
    he took many captives
    and gave gifts to his people."
 9 (What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions


This shows that Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth to preach the good news to the people who died under the law so that he was able to take those who were waiting for redemption to Heaven with Him.

1 Peter 4:6
For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.

God bless you all.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: adnaanshaikh195 on February 11, 2013, 07:05:45 pm
Dear brother,

When the Bible says heart of the earth, it does not mean a cave.

Mathew 12:40  is the verse we refer to.
40 For just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the great fish, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

The heart of the earth is synonymous to deep parts of the earth or the nether regions.

Ephesians 4:8-9
8 This is why it[a] says:
"When he ascended on high,
    he took many captives
    and gave gifts to his people."
 9 (What does "he ascended" mean except that he also descended to the lower, earthly regions


This shows that Jesus descended into the lower parts of the earth to preach the good news to the people who died under the law so that he was able to take those who were waiting for redemption to Heaven with Him.

1 Peter 4:6
For this is why the gospel was preached even to those who are dead, that though judged in the flesh the way people are, they might live in the spirit the way God does.

God bless you all.
 
 

The author of 'Matthew' is unknown.

Secondly, any 5 year old can do the Math and work out that from Friday night to sunday morning is not 3 days/3 nights!

The miracle of Jonah was that he was alive for 3 days and 3 nights!

The following is taken from:  http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/signofjonah.html


If Jonah was alive for three days and three nights, then Jesus also ought to have been alive in the tomb as he himself had foretold! But Christianity hangs on the flimsy thread of the death" of Jesus for its salvation. So it has to answer that Jesus was DEAD for three days and three nights. The contradiction  between  his utterance and its fulfilment is obvious. Jonah ALIVE, Jesus DEAD! Very UNLIKE Jonah! Jesus had said "LIKE Jonah" not UNLIKE Jonah. If this is true then according to his own test Jesus is not the TRUE Messiah of the Jews. If the Gospel record is genuine then how can we blame the Jews for rejecting "CHRIST".   

THREE AND THREE = 72 HOURS?   

The Doctor of Divinity and the Professor of Theology replies that in Matthew 12:40 under discussion, the emphasis is on the TIME factor - "as Jonas was THREE days and THREE nights in the belly of the whale, so shall the son of man be THREE days and THREE nights in the heart of the earth." "Please note," says the learned theologian, "that the word "THREE" is repeated F-O-U-R times in this verse to prove that Jesus was going to fulfil the prophecy as regards the length of time he was going to remain in the tomb, and NOT 'As Jonas was' in relation to his being alive or dead. If it is the time factor that Jesus was stressing then let us ask whether he fulfilled that aspect of his promise to the Jews as well. The Christian dogmatist answers: "OF COURSE!"   

PUBLIC HOLIDAY   

The question arises: when was Christ crucified? The whole Christian world answers: "FRIDAY!" Is this the reason we celebrate "Good Friday" - as a Public Holiday in every Christian nation from America to Zambia, from Abyssinia to Zaire at Easter? What makes Good Friday" so good? "it is the death of Christ on the Cross on this day to wash off our sins," says the Christians. So he was killed on the cross on a Friday, 19xx years ago? "YES!" says the Christians. From the Gospel records we gather that the Jews were in a hurry to eliminate Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. Hence the midnight trial, and then dispatching  him off to Pilate in the morning; from Pilate to Herod and then back again to Pilate. The vested interests were afraid of the general public. Jesus was their hero. He had been their benefactor. His enemies had to do away with him quickly, and succeeded in doing so. However, as much as they were in a hurry to hang him on the cross, they were in equal hurry to bring him down from the cross before sunset on Friday because of the Sabbath. The Sabbath starts at about 6 p.m. on Friday and the Jews were warned in Deuteronomy 21:23 that the victim of crucifixion was an "accursed of God" and was not to be permitted to remain hanging on the Sabbath day, "that thy land be not defiled which the Lord thy God giveth thee for an inheritance."

To satisfy the religious scruples of the Scribes and Pharisees the "secret disciples" of Jesus took down the body from the cross. They gave the body the Jewish burial-bath, plastered it with "one hundred pounds weight of aaloes and myrrh" (John 19:39), then placed the shrouded body into the sepulcher before night-fall.   

WHY "SUPPOSED"?   

There are numerous differences between the various sects and denominations of Christianity, but on the above they are unanimous. Jesus is SUPPOSED to be in the tomb on the night of Friday. He is still SUPPOSED to be in the tomb on the day of Saturday. He is still SUPPOSED to be in the tomb on the night of Saturday. Christians agree whole-heartedly with this. It will be noted that I have repeated the word 'SUPPOSED' three times. The reason is that the Gospels are silent as to when exactly Jesus came out of the tomb. He could have been taken away on Friday night by his "secret disciples"  to  a  more congenial and restful place, but I have no right to assume about what the Gospel writers are silent. I have, therefore, repeated the word 'SUPPOSED' three times.   

In the final analysis, let us see whether Jesus was THREE days and THREE nights in the tomb:-

EASTER WEEK

IN THE SEPULCHER

 

DAYS

NIGHTS

FRIDAY - placed in tomb just before sunset

- nil -

One night

SATURDAY - supposed to be in tomb

One day

One night

SUNDAY - missing before sunrise

- nil -

- nil -

TOTAL

One Day

Two Nights


You will no doubt note that the GRAND TOTAL is ONE day and TWO nights, and NOT three days and three nights. According to the Christian Scriptures Jesus had failed a SECOND time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). FIRST he was unlike Jonah, who was ALIVE in the belly of the fish, which is the exact opposite of what the Christians claim had happened to their master Jesus, who was DEAD for the same period of time as Jonah was - ALIVE. 
SECONDLY, we discover that he also failed to fulfill the TIME FACTOR as well. The greatest mathematician in Christendom will fail to obtain the desired result - THREE days and THREE nights. We must not forget that the Gospels are explicit in telling us that it was "before sunrise" on Sunday morning (the FIRST day of the week), that Mary Magdalene went to the tomb of Jesus and found it empty.   

(Taken from http://www.missionislam.com/comprel/signofjonah.html)

Jesus was NOT crucified.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Mujahid Saifullah on February 11, 2013, 07:19:12 pm
If you go to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jesus_Christ) you will find they cite 5 (non-Christian) references which supposedly prove that 'Isa was crucified. Someone should refute the claim.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 12, 2013, 11:37:29 am
Dear brother adnaanshaikh195,

To start with, I do not believe in Easter. Nor do I celebrate Good Friday, Easter Sunday or even Christmas. They are traditions which are followed by men and not condoned by God as said in the Bibles:

Mark 7:6-8
6 He replied, "Isaiah was right when he prophesied about you hypocrites; as it is written:
"‘These people honor me with their lips,
    but their hearts are far from me.
7 They worship me in vain;
    their teachings are merely human rules.'
8 You have let go of the commands of God and are holding on to human traditions."
 


The following link offers an explanation which is based more on the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. http://www.bible-truth.org/WhatDayDidChristDie.html

When talking about the death of Jesus, the Bible is talking about the death of the flesh. The spirit can never die - even our spirits live after the body is dead. It is the body that was dead and placed in the tomb whereas the spirit of Lord Jesus was alive in the heart of the Earth just as Jonah was alive in the belly of the fish:

Mark 15:45-46
45 And when he learned from the centurion that he was dead, he granted the corpse to Joseph. 46 And Joseph[a] bought a linen shroud, and taking him down, wrapped him in the linen shroud and laid him in a tomb that had been cut out of the rock. And he rolled a stone against the entrance of the tomb.

After the 3 days, the body was no longer found in the tomb as the Lord Jesus's ressurrection had occured.

Mathew Chapter 27: 63-66 describes how the soldiers placed a Roman Seal on the tomb which in those times meant that anyone breaking it would suffer an unpleasant death.

63 and said, "Sir, we remember how that impostor said, while he was still alive, ‘After three days I will rise.' 64 Therefore order the tomb to be made secure until the third day, lest his disciples go and steal him away and tell the people, ‘He has risen from the dead,' and the last fraud will be worse than the first." 65 Pilate said to them, "You have a guard[a] of soldiers. Go, make it as secure as you can." 66 So they went and made the tomb secure by sealing the stone and setting a guard.

The following passage described what happened when 3 women that followed Jesus went to the tomb.

Mathew 28:2-6
2 And behold, there was a great earthquake, for an angel of the Lord descended from heaven and came and rolled back the stone and sat on it. 3 His appearance was like lightning, and his clothing white as snow. 4 And for fear of him the guards trembled and became like dead men. 5 But the angel said to the women, "Do not be afraid, for I know that you seek Jesus who was crucified. 6 He is not here, for he has risen, as he said. Come, see the place where he[a] lay.

Please feel free to reply if you would like anything to be explained or answered further. In the meantime, I pray to Almighty God that you may all grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. God bless you.
 
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 12, 2013, 12:14:56 pm
Quote
When talking about the death of Jesus, the Bible is talking about the death of the flesh. The spirit can never die - even our spirits live after the body is dead.
 

Peace be upon you dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.breadoflife,

Prophet Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, never died even according to the New Testament itself.

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

He received medicine and massaging from Mary Magdalene and others during this time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).  He then "rose up from the dead" and left the tomb (cave).

1- Notice in Luke 24:1, the women came to the tomb with medicine and found Jesus gone.  If he was already dead, they would have no reason to bring this to dead Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  But Jesus was alive and was receiving medical treatment.

2- Also, notice in John 20:15, Mary Magdalene thought Jesus was a gardener, after he healed and rose back up.

3- And in John 20:17, Jesus was still in pain, he told Mary Magdalene "touch me not!".

4- And in John 20:19-29, Jesus showed his original body to the disciples, and they checked it.

Jesus Christ:
   
(1)-  Never actually died. He has always been alive in the tomb receiving medical treatment.
 
(2)-  He was never buried underground, or in a coffin. He was laid on the floor, alive.



And to really give a detailed answer, I would recommend first watching Dr. Zakir Naik's 3-hour debate (see link above) and respond to the many New Testament verses that he put forth that proved that Christ never died.

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 12, 2013, 04:26:22 pm
Hi Brother Osama,

Firstly I shall address medicine administered to Jesus that you speak of.

Luke 24:1
24 But on the first day of the week, at early dawn, they went to the tomb, taking the spices they had prepared.

I would disagree that it was a form of medical treatment. It was, in fact, a Jewish custom to prepare the body by using frankinsense, oils, spices etc. Here is a passage of Lord Jesus talking about His burial before his crucifixion:

3 Mary therefore took a pound[a] of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume. 4 But Judas Iscariot, one of his disciples (he who was about to betray him), said, 5 "Why was this ointment not sold for three hundred denarii and given to the poor?" 6 He said this, not because he cared about the poor, but because he was a thief, and having charge of the moneybag he used to help himself to what was put into it. 7 Jesus said, "Leave her alone, so that she may keep it[c] for the day of my burial.
His body was buried in the tomb as it says in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.

Secondly, dear brother, it absolutely does not say in John 20:17 that Jesus told Mary to not touch him as he was still in pain. This is what it says:

17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brothers and say to them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'"

As you read the full verse, you can see that the explanation you suggested is entirely different to what the Bible says. I urge you in the name of Lord Jesus to not misrepresent the word of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). You may not believe in it but, dear brother, if only you could see how it does amazing works amongst those who trust in His name.

Hebrews 4:12 - For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.

Lastly, I fail to see how it is possible for one to say that the New Testament provides verses which show that Jesus never died. The following verses are a few examples which showed that he did die:

Mark 15:37-39
37 And Jesus uttered a loud cry and breathed his last. 38 And the curtain of the temple was torn in two, from top to bottom. 39 And when the centurion, who stood facing him, saw that in this way he[a] breathed his last, he said, "Truly this man was the Son of God!"

John 19:32-37
32 So the soldiers came and broke the legs of the first, and of the other who had been crucified with him. 33 But when they came to Jesus and saw that he was already dead, they did not break his legs. 34 But one of the soldiers pierced his side with a spear, and at once there came out blood and water. 35 He who saw it has borne witness—his testimony is true, and he knows that he is telling the truth—that you also may believe. 36 For these things took place that the Scripture might be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken." 37 And again another Scripture says, "They will look on him whom they have pierced."

God bless you all, may the grace of Lord Jesus be with you.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on February 14, 2013, 03:30:50 pm
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Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 14, 2013, 03:58:53 pm
Sorry, I accidently replaced this post with the one below.  The original one for this one got lost.  But it's ok.  My answer below is thorough, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Also, my rebuttals started from the following first post of mine in this thread:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg2677.html#msg2677.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 14, 2013, 06:12:57 pm
Dear Brother Osama,

The oinment worth 300 denarii was not wasted. The passage I referred to in my previous post was from John 12:1-7. This shows that when Jesus was in the house of Lazarus when Mary anointed Lord Jesus's feet with the ointment - verse 3 Mary therefore took a pound[a] of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.

If you look at Mathew 26:6-12, Jesus is again in Bethany but this time he is at the house of Simon the leper. The woman came to him with "an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table". Lord Jesus says in verse 12,  "In pouring this ointment on my body, she has done it to prepare me for burial." None of his words are in vain.

I find it difficult to believe that you suggested that Lord Jesus faked his own death. Firstly, if he did not want to die, all he had to do was to was ask God and he would be saved. When Lord Jesus was arrested and his disciples tried to prevent this by taking the sword, this is what Lord Jesus said,

Mathew 26:52,53
52 Then Jesus said to him, "Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. 53 Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels?  

Secondly, Lord Jesus would basically be lying if he had faked his own death. And since he had said that he came to do the will of the Father, you are suggesting that God lied to all the people who were at the crucifixion. There are two points to consider here. What purpose would this have achieved? If it was God's will that Jesus shouldn't die, then surely it would have been better to save him publicly so that sinners may repent, listen to Jesus and turn to the Father. Most importantly, God is righteous and truthful.

Isaiah 45:19

I did not speak in secret,
    in a land of darkness;
I did not say to the offspring of Jacob,
    ‘Seek me in vain.'[a]
I the Lord speak the truth;
    I declare what is right.

In a world that was at the time already full of darkness, idolatory and lies, would God really give people another lie to believe in?

Your points on https://www.answering-christianity.com/balanced_lies_rebuttal.htm do not look at the verses in the Bible in the same meaning that it was written in. As time does not permit me to go through them all, I shall address a couple for now. Paul is not saying that it would be OK to lie nor did he lie.

Romans 3:7
7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?

This is the verse you referrred to and upon reading it, it clearly shows that if I tell a lie in order that God may be glorified, I would be condemned as a sinner irregardless. Paul is talking about a hypothetical situation - note the use of the word 'if'.

Philippians 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

You say that this shows that Paul lied for the sake of the Gospel of Christ. These verses do not show that at all. What Paul says is that he is aware of some who proclaim the name of Lord Jesus for their own selfish ambition. Yet Paul rejoices not in their lies but in the truth that they say - the Gospel of the Lord. How can he not rejoice when the Gospel is spread for the saving of many lives? After all, it is the spirit of God who works in people's hearts - not men whether they be liars or truthful. Those who lie will have to stand before God in judgement.

This is what Paul says in Philippians 1:9-11 9  And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10 so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. As this is what he believed and urged others to do, he would not lie.

John 6:35
35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst

God bless you all.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 15, 2013, 10:37:59 am
Dear Brother Osama,

The oinment worth 300 denarii was not wasted. The passage I referred to in my previous post was from John 12:1-7. This shows that when Jesus was in the house of Lazarus when Mary anointed Lord Jesus's feet with the ointment - verse 3 Mary therefore took a pound[a] of expensive ointment made from pure nard, and anointed the feet of Jesus and wiped his feet with her hair. The house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.
 

Dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.breadoflife,

So now you agree with me that the Lord Jesus Christ was already an annointed Messiah before the crucifixion.  He wasn't just a mere Prophet and just Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  No, he was the Lord Messiah (Al-Sayyed Al-Maseeh as we say in Arabic).  So, the women coming to the tomb with "spices" is a misleading interpretation and a translation, because there was no need to annoint him in the tomb.  And why would you annoint a dead person to become the Messiah anyway??  So this clearly shows that in Luke 24:1, the women actually came to the tomb (cave which Christ was laying on the floor in) with MEDICINE to the live and hurt Jesus (not a dead one), and not just mere spices.

Furthermore, if they truly wanted to annoint him to be the Messiah in the tomb (cave), then they would've also brought men with them.  Three women sounds very suspicious, if not ridiculous, to annoint THE LORD MESSIAH, the King of the Jews and King of entire earth when he returns.

The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


Where is Jesus' promise??

-  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
-  They ended up splitting into
Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
-  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

-  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

-  They were barking at each other like
rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
[1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


  

Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

  

Remember:

If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





Holy Gambling:
  
Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
[1]

   


Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

  

Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
  Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

  

Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
  
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"bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


"...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

  

  
  

Dismal Spiritual Failures:

Let us examine the following:

Romans 3:23 ESV
For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

  

1 Corinthians 2:15
A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
is not subject to any man's judgment.

    

How???

How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

  

Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

  



Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

  


Insufficient Jesus:

Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
[1]

   


Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

  


Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
كتاب المرحاض المقدس


  

***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

Notice the language of how Satan was:

1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
2. Glorious.
3. "the chosen one".
4. The "Anointed".
5. ruler over earth.
6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
.

7.
Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



Holy Gambling:
  
Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
[1]

   


Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

  

Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

  

Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

  

Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

  

  

Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

Paul ate his vomit.

Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

  

Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

  



See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

 (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

  

Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

 

 

  

 

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If you look at Mathew 26:6-12, Jesus is again in Bethany but this time he is at the house of Simon the leper. The woman came to him with "an alabaster jar of very expensive perfume, which she poured on his head as he was reclining at the table". Lord Jesus says in verse 12,  "In pouring this ointment on my body, she has done it to prepare me for burial." None of his words are in vain.
 

You see, this is where the New Testament shows its corruption and fabrications.  What does a wiping of Jesus to make him the Messiah, in front of people and the disciples, have to do with burial?  And who told you that "burial" here means actual death?  The Bible is so filled with metaphores that you really can't take it literally.  The Bible in so many verses uses terms such as GOD, DEATH, LIFE loosely.

Furthermore, Jesus was never burried.  Burried to us today means that one would be placed in a coffin and burried underground.  This NEVER happened to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  He was only put in a cave on the floor, wrapped in cloths, and rested there for 3 or so days.  So no burrial occured, which further proves that the Bible here is also speaking in metaphores:



 
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I find it difficult to believe that you suggested that Lord Jesus faked his own death. Firstly, if he did not want to die, all he had to do was to was ask God and he would be saved. When Lord Jesus was arrested and his disciples tried to prevent this by taking the sword, this is what Lord Jesus said,

Mathew 26:52,53
52 Then Jesus said to him, Put your sword back into its place. For all who take the sword will perish by the sword. 53 Do you think that I cannot appeal to my Father, and he will at once send me more than twelve legions of angels?  
 

Telling half-truth and tricking the enemy is nothing new in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  Yahweh Almighty did it in the Old Testament:

1 Samuel 16:1-13
1 The LORD said to Samuel, "How long will you mourn for Saul, since I have rejected him as king over Israel? Fill your horn with oil and be on your way; I am sending you to Jesse of Bethlehem. I have chosen one of his sons to be king."
2 But Samuel said, "How can I go? Saul will hear about it and kill me." The LORD said, "Take a heifer with you and say, 'I have come to sacrifice to the LORD.'
3 Invite Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will show you what to do. You are to anoint for me the one I indicate."

4 Samuel did what the LORD said. When he arrived at Bethlehem, the elders of the town trembled when they met him. They asked, "Do you come in peace?"
5 Samuel replied, "Yes, in peace; I have come to sacrifice to the LORD. Consecrate yourselves and come to the sacrifice with me." Then he consecrated Jesse and his sons and invited them to the sacrifice.
6 When they arrived, Samuel saw Eliab and thought, "Surely the LORD's anointed stands here before the LORD."
7 But the LORD said to Samuel, "Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The LORD does not look at the things man looks at. Man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart."
8 Then Jesse called Abinadab and had him pass in front of Samuel. But Samuel said, "The LORD has not chosen this one either."
9 Jesse then had Shammah pass by, but Samuel said, "Nor has the LORD chosen this one."
10 Jesse had seven of his sons pass before Samuel, but Samuel said to him, "The LORD has not chosen these."
11 So he asked Jesse, "Are these all the sons you have?" "There is still the youngest," Jesse answered, "but he is tending the sheep." Samuel said, "Send for him; we will not sit down until he arrives."
12 So he sent and had him brought in. He was ruddy, with a fine appearance and handsome features. Then the LORD said, "Rise and anoint him; he is the one."
13 So Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the presence of his brothers, and from that day on the Spirit of the LORD came upon David in power. Samuel then went to Ramah.

So as we clearly see, Yahweh Almighty Himself supposedly tricked the enemies of David into thinking that Samuel came to sacrifice, when in actuality this wasn't his primary purpose and mission.  His primary mission was to annoint David, which was kept hidden under the Command of GOD Almighty.

Furthermore, did not GOD Almighty send LYING SPIRITS THAT CAUSED PEOPLE TO LIE many times in the Old Testament?

1 Kings 22:21-23
21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the LORD and said, 'I will entice him.'
22 " 'By what means?' the LORD asked. " 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'
23 "So now the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The LORD has decreed disaster for you."

2 Chronicles 18:21 " 'I will go and be a lying spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said. " 'You will succeed in enticing him,' said the LORD. 'Go and do it.'

So why couldn't Jesus Christ fake his death on the cross?  And even if he never faked it, he could've easily passed out from all of the fatigueness and tiredness that his body had to endure.  But he most certainly never died.

Again, please visit:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/balanced_lies_rebuttal.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm


 
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Secondly, Lord Jesus would basically be lying if he had faked his own death. And since he had said that he came to do the will of the Father, you are suggesting that God lied to all the people who were at the crucifixion. There are two points to consider here. What purpose would this have achieved? If it was God's will that Jesus shouldn't die, then surely it would have been better to save him publicly so that sinners may repent, listen to Jesus and turn to the Father. Most importantly, God is righteous and truthful.

Isaiah 45:19

I did not speak in secret,
    in a land of darkness;
I did not say to the offspring of Jacob,
    ‘Seek me in vain.'[a]
I the Lord speak the truth;
    I declare what is right.

In a world that was at the time already full of darkness, idolatory and lies, would God really give people another lie to believe in?
 

My dear brother, you are the one who is considering it a lie, when the Bible clearly permits it.

As to your question: "What purpose would this have achieved? If it was God's will that Jesus shouldn't die, then surely it would have been better to save him publicly so that sinners may repent, listen to Jesus and turn to the Father."

In Islam, we don't believe the Lord Jesus Christ (Al-Sayyed Al-Maseeh in Arabic) died, nor got crucified.  My discussion with you, dear brother, is based on what the New Testament currently says.  And even with what the New Testament says, we can clearly see that Christ never died.  But the Islamic point of view is Jesus was saved.

And again like I mentioned in my previous reply, this is assuming that he was actually put on the cross from the first place.  If you remember the New Testament account, Pilot stood BETWEEN TWO "JESUS SON OF HIS FATHER" (Jesus Baraba) when he stood before the multitudes.  We had two Jesus' whose fathers were not known.  Our Jesus Christ was also called Jesus son of his father, because he had no known human father.  So it is quite possible that our Lord Jesus Christ (Al-Sayyed Al-Maseeh) never got crucified at all.  The other Jesus was a rebel who killed two Roman soldiers, because he was a Jew who didn't want his people to be ruled by pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  For more details, visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
https://www.answering-christianity.com/which_jesus_released_and_which_crucified.htm


 
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Your points on https://www.answering-christianity.com/balanced_lies_rebuttal.htm do not look at the verses in the Bible in the same meaning that it was written in. As time does not permit me to go through them all, I shall address a couple for now. Paul is not saying that it would be OK to lie nor did he lie.

Romans 3:7
7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?

This is the verse you referrred to and upon reading it, it clearly shows that if I tell a lie in order that God may be glorified, I would be condemned as a sinner irregardless. Paul is talking about a hypothetical situation - note the use of the word 'if'.

Philippians 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

You say that this shows that Paul lied for the sake of the Gospel of Christ. These verses do not show that at all. What Paul says is that he is aware of some who proclaim the name of Lord Jesus for their own selfish ambition. Yet Paul rejoices not in their lies but in the truth that they say - the Gospel of the Lord. How can he not rejoice when the Gospel is spread for the saving of many lives? After all, it is the spirit of God who works in people's hearts - not men whether they be liars or truthful. Those who lie will have to stand before God in judgement.

This is what Paul says in Philippians 1:9-11 9  And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10 so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. As this is what he believed and urged others to do, he would not lie.
 

My dear brother, the text is crystal clear about Paul saying that if he had to lie, then he would.  No need to re-translate it and re-interpret it.  Here is what the English translation says:

Philippians 1:15-18
15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.
17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Romans 3:1-8
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were intrusted with the oracles of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.
3 For what if some were without faith? shall their want of faith make of none effect the faithfulness of God?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
5 But if our righteousness commendeth the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who visiteth with wrath?
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
7 But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?
8 and why not, Let us do evil, that good may come? whose condemnation is just.  [/quote]

 
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John 6:35
35 Jesus said to them, "I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst

God bless you all.
 
 

The Lord Jesus Christ (Al-Sayyed Al-Maseeh in Arabic) is nothing without his Creator, GOD Almighty.  All authority was given to Jesus here on earth, and earth only, by GOD Almighty.  GOD Almighty made him the heir of earth:

https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm

Furthermore, Jesus' attributes here on earth, such as forging sins and what have you, - which are heavily used by Trinitarians to prove their blasphemies about Jesus being the Creator of the Universe, - do not prove anything.  Let us examine the following verses to shed more light on this point:

Luke 5:17-24
Jesus Forgives and Heals a Paralyzed Man
17 One day Jesus was teaching, and Pharisees and teachers of the law were sitting there. They had come from every village of Galilee and from Judea and Jerusalem. And the power of the Lord was with Jesus to heal the sick.
18 Some men came carrying a paralyzed man on a mat and tried to take him into the house to lay him before Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.
19 When they could not find a way to do this because of the crowd, they went up on the roof and lowered him on his mat through the tiles into the middle of the crowd, right in front of Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
20 When Jesus saw their faith, he said, "Friend, your sins are forgiven."
21 The Pharisees and the teachers of the law began thinking to themselves, "Who is this fellow who speaks blasphemy? Who can forgive sins but God alone?"
22 Jesus knew what they were thinking and asked, "Why are you thinking these things in your hearts?
23 Which is easier: to say, ‘Your sins are forgiven,' or to say, ‘Get up and walk'? 24 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority ON EARTH to forgive sins." So he said to the paralyzed man, "I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home."

Jesus' authority was ONLY earthly.  It was limited to this planet earth, and nothing more!  And this is nothing new in the Bible, by the way.  Others in the Old Testament were able to do these things, and also raise the dead (https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm).  So Jesus being the bread of life, and having the authority to forgive sins, and what have you is nothing but metaphores, and privileges that were given to him by his Creator, Allah Almighty.  Otherwise, Jesus is absolutely a nothing and a nobody when compared to GOD Almighty.  In fact, add all creations with Jesus and still we all add up to absolute nothing when compared to GOD Almighty.

And I would like remind you that the Lord Christ always rejected to be elated by humans, and he always reminded them that GOD Almighty is Absolute One, and no one is beside Him, and no one is part of Him, the Almighty:

"The most important one," answered Jesus, "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.  (From the NIV Bible, Mark 12:29)"

Notice the "our God".  GOD Almighty is Jesus' GOD and Creator.  It's really simple, dear brother.  It's very simple.  It's the Trinitarians who are the lost and complicated ones.

""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good-except God alone."   (From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)"

"I do nothing of myself" (John 8:28)

Even when Christ performed Miracles, he always took permission from GOD Almighty, and seeking GOD Almighty to give him the power to perform the Miracle.  He couldn't do a thing by himself.

Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links


I hope this helps, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

Take care, and may Allah Almighty further opens your heart, shed His Light upon you, and lead you more and more to Islam.  Ameen.

Osama Abdallah
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 15, 2013, 08:13:32 pm
Hi Brother Osama,

 

So now you agree with me that the Lord Jesus Christ was already an annointed Messiah before the crucifixion.  He wasn't just a mere Prophet and just Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  No, he was the Lord Messiah (Al-Sayyed Al-Maseeh as we say in Arabic).  So, the women coming to the tomb with "spices" is a misleading interpretation and a translation, because there was no need to annoint him in the tomb.  And why would you annoint a dead person to become the Messiah anyway??  So this clearly shows that in Luke 24:1, the women actually came to the tomb (cave which Christ was laying on the floor in) with MEDICINE to the live and hurt Jesus (not a dead one), and not just mere spices.

 
 

There is nothing that suggests that the women came to anoint Lord Jesus so that he may become Messiah. It was just common Jewish burial practice to wash the body, wrap it in linen cloth and anointed with spices and oils. A basic definition of the word 'anoint' is 'To apply oil, ointment, or a similar substance'. There are examples in the Bible where anointing is used to sanctify someone such as a King but in the case of a burial, the definition I have given here is the most fitting. 

http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8493339_jewish-burial-customs-anointing-oils.html


 

Furthermore, Jesus was never burried.  Burried to us today means that one would be placed in a coffin and burried underground.  This NEVER happened to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  He was only put in a cave on the floor, wrapped in cloths, and rested there for 3 or so days.  So no burrial occured, which further proves that the Bible here is also speaking in metaphores:

 
 

Jesus was buried in a tomb - it was not uncommon in those times. Abraham and Jacob was buried in a tomb as it says in the Bible

Acts 7: 15-16
15 And Jacob went down into Egypt, and he died, he and our fathers, 16 and they were carried back to Shechem and laid in the tomb that Abraham had bought for a sum of silver from the sons of Hamor in Shechem.

Genesis 25:8-9
8 Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age, an old man and full of years, and was gathered to his people. 9 Isaac and Ishmael his sons buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, east of Mamre,

 
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Your points on https://www.answering-christianity.com/balanced_lies_rebuttal.htm do not look at the verses in the Bible in the same meaning that it was written in. As time does not permit me to go through them all, I shall address a couple for now. Paul is not saying that it would be OK to lie nor did he lie.

Romans 3:7
7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?
This is the verse you referrred to and upon reading it, it clearly shows that if I tell a lie in order that God may be glorified, I would be condemned as a sinner irregardless. Paul is talking about a hypothetical situation - note the use of the word 'if'.

Philippians 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

You say that this shows that Paul lied for the sake of the Gospel of Christ. These verses do not show that at all. What Paul says is that he is aware of some who proclaim the name of Lord Jesus for their own selfish ambition. Yet Paul rejoices not in their lies but in the truth that they say - the Gospel of the Lord. How can he not rejoice when the Gospel is spread for the saving of many lives? After all, it is the spirit of God who works in people's hearts - not men whether they be liars or truthful. Those who lie will have to stand before God in judgement.

This is what Paul says in Philippians 1:9-11 9  And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10 so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. As this is what he believed and urged others to do, he would not lie.
 

My dear brother, the text is crystal clear about Paul saying that if he had to lie, then he would.  No need to re-translate it and re-interpret it.  Here is what the English translation says:

Philippians 1:15-18
15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.
17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Romans 3:1-8
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were intrusted with the oracles of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.
3 For what if some were without faith? shall their want of faith make of none effect the faithfulness of God?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
5 But if our righteousness commendeth the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who visiteth with wrath?
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
7 But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?
8 and why not, Let us do evil, that good may come? whose condemnation is just.  
 

Dear Brother, the Holy Spirit is my witness when I say I did not re-interpret it or retranslate the passage, I just explained in simpler terms. After all, who am I to add to or take away from the word of God? You don't need to look beyond these verses to come to the conclusion I came to. For example, Romans 3:7 - But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?  Well, it is 100% clear in this verse that I would still be condemned as a sinner even if a lie I tell is for the glory of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. Similarly, in verses Philippians 1:15-18, the passage is very clear - there is only 1 meaning of this - some people are preaching Christ out of false motives - 'envy and rivalry' so that 'they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains'. The lying that you refer to is the 'false motives' that Paul describes. This says that the lie is that people pretend they preach out of goodwill but it is actually for their 'selfish ambition'.They are competing with Paul whilst he is imprisoned. Paul is saying he doesn't care (i.e. about the envy and rivalry) but he rejoices as Christ is preached.  I just cannot see from where you got the idea that Paul would lie if he had to.


 
So as we clearly see, Yahweh Almighty Himself supposedly tricked the enemies of David into thinking that Samuel came to sacrifice, when in actuality this wasn't his primary purpose and mission.  His primary mission was to annoint David, which was kept hidden under the Command of GOD Almighty.
Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
 
 

Yes, God did not allow Samuel to reveal His plans to Saul. Why would he? It wasn't the time when God wanted David to be revealed as the King of Israel. That is not the same as lying.

 

Furthermore, did not GOD Almighty send LYING SPIRITS THAT CAUSED PEOPLE TO LIE many times in the Old Testament?
 
 

This is the passage that you are referring to:
1 Kings 22:17-23
17 Then Micaiah answered, "I saw all Israel scattered on the hills like sheep without a shepherd, and the Lord said, ‘These people have no master. Let each one go home in peace.'"
 
18 The king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, "Didn't I tell you that he never prophesies anything good about me, but only bad?"
 
19 Micaiah continued, "Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the multitudes of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left. 20 And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'

"One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.'
 
22 "‘By what means?' the Lord asked.

"‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.

"‘You will succeed in enticing him,' said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.'
 
23 "So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you."

King Ahab wants to go to battle and he was Jehoshaphat to go with him. Jehoshaphat wants to ask the Lord before going for battle so the King calls out 400 false prophets and they all say that the King will be victorious. Jehoshaphat is not convinced and he wants to hear from a prophet of the Lord and therefore Micaiah is called. He prophesied disaster.

We can see that King Ahab, unlike Jehoshaphat, had already made up his mind to do what was against the will of God (i.e. go to war) before he had even heard from the prophet of the Lord. God permitted a a lying spirit to be in all the false prophets. This highlights the absolute sovereignty over all things. Even the lying spirit cannot do anything unless God allows them to. If someone wants to commit a murder, they may have that spirit of Satan in him but it is there because God allowed it to be there. If someone is not under the mighty hand of God, they are open to attack - this due to the choices made by people to turn away from God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. God protects all who trust in his name - he protects them from Satan, from people etc. However, Satan is free to destroy those who are not the children of God - and yes, Satan cannot do anything unless God allows it to happen. But you can see that the Spirit of God did not lie to Ahab - Micaiah prophesied disaster and revealed everything.

I am aware that it says the Quran that it appeared to them that Jesus was crucified. Well, if that were true, Allah would be lying. Also, there is absolutely no reason why this 'false vision' would be of any use to anyone.

 
My discussion with you, dear brother, is based on what the New Testament currently says.  And even with what the New Testament says, we can clearly see that Christ never died.
 
 

The New Testament does say that Jesus died in many places one of which is below.

Mark 15:37-39
37 With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last.
38 The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. 39 And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died,[a] he said, Surely this man was the Son of God!

 
All authority was given to Jesus here on earth, and earth only, by GOD Almighty.  GOD Almighty made him the heir of earth:
 
 

This is not entirely true.

Mathew 28:18
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Also, if you accept that all authority on earth had been given to Jesus, why would you refrain from believing what he said and obeying his commands concerning baptism etc ? Yes, the greatest command is to love God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. Firstly, to love God means to do his will. Secondly, obeying the greatest commandment does not mean that one is allowed to diregard the others - James 2:10 - For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

When Jesus came to the Earth, he came to do the will of the Father and did everything through His Holy Spirit. No one denies that. Before he was born as a man, he was in the same nature of God but he hold onto his equality with God but left that to come to Earth for the salvation of mankind.

Philippians 2:6-11

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
    by taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    by becoming obedient to deathâ€"
        even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.


Yes, Jesus did not want to be exalted by men when he was a man but as we can see in the New Testament, he was worshipped after his resurrection when he was no longer of human form.

Dear brothers and sisters, I urge to to seek God's voice for yourself. The Bible speaks of prophets and men of God but their testimony is their own. The Bible shows us the glory of God but we must all seek the God for ourselves and listen to His voice. I was only able to accept the Bible as the word of God after it God revealed it to me. I don't expect that you will listen to my voice and I wouldn't ask you to; but you must listen to the voice of God.

Mathew 11:25
25 At that time Jesus said, I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26 Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.
 
27 All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.


If we are wise in our own eyes, the Spirit of God will not work in us. Let us be like children and so that we may hear God's voice.
 
And it is the voice of the Lord that lead me to where I now stand in Christ from whom nothing can separate me. I pray that God may do the same for you.

God bless you all.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: adnaanshaikh195 on February 16, 2013, 08:44:02 am
Hi Brother Osama,

 

So now you agree with me that the Lord Jesus Christ was already an annointed Messiah before the crucifixion.  He wasn't just a mere Prophet and just Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  No, he was the Lord Messiah (Al-Sayyed Al-Maseeh as we say in Arabic).  So, the women coming to the tomb with "spices" is a misleading interpretation and a translation, because there was no need to annoint him in the tomb.  And why would you annoint a dead person to become the Messiah anyway??  So this clearly shows that in Luke 24:1, the women actually came to the tomb (cave which Christ was laying on the floor in) with MEDICINE to the live and hurt Jesus (not a dead one), and not just mere spices.

 
 

There is nothing that suggests that the women came to anoint Lord Jesus so that he may become Messiah. It was just common Jewish burial practice to wash the body, wrap it in linen cloth and anointed with spices and oils. A basic definition of the word 'anoint' is 'To apply oil, ointment, or a similar substance'. There are examples in the Bible where anointing is used to sanctify someone such as a King but in the case of a burial, the definition I have given here is the most fitting. 

http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8493339_jewish-burial-customs-anointing-oils.html


 

Furthermore, Jesus was never burried.  Burried to us today means that one would be placed in a coffin and burried underground.  This NEVER happened to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.  He was only put in a cave on the floor, wrapped in cloths, and rested there for 3 or so days.  So no burrial occured, which further proves that the Bible here is also speaking in metaphores:

 
 

Jesus was buried in a tomb - it was not uncommon in those times. Abraham and Jacob was buried in a tomb as it says in the Bible

Acts 7: 15-16
15 And Jacob went down into Egypt, and he died, he and our fathers, 16 and they were carried back to Shechem and laid in the tomb that Abraham had bought for a sum of silver from the sons of Hamor in Shechem.

Genesis 25:8-9
8 Abraham breathed his last and died in a good old age, an old man and full of years, and was gathered to his people. 9 Isaac and Ishmael his sons buried him in the cave of Machpelah, in the field of Ephron the son of Zohar the Hittite, east of Mamre,

 
Quote
Your points on https://www.answering-christianity.com/balanced_lies_rebuttal.htm do not look at the verses in the Bible in the same meaning that it was written in. As time does not permit me to go through them all, I shall address a couple for now. Paul is not saying that it would be OK to lie nor did he lie.

Romans 3:7
7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?
This is the verse you referrred to and upon reading it, it clearly shows that if I tell a lie in order that God may be glorified, I would be condemned as a sinner irregardless. Paul is talking about a hypothetical situation - note the use of the word 'if'.

Philippians 1:15-18
15 Some indeed preach Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from good will. 16 The latter do it out of love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel. 17 The former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but thinking to afflict me in my imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in that I rejoice.

You say that this shows that Paul lied for the sake of the Gospel of Christ. These verses do not show that at all. What Paul says is that he is aware of some who proclaim the name of Lord Jesus for their own selfish ambition. Yet Paul rejoices not in their lies but in the truth that they say - the Gospel of the Lord. How can he not rejoice when the Gospel is spread for the saving of many lives? After all, it is the spirit of God who works in people's hearts - not men whether they be liars or truthful. Those who lie will have to stand before God in judgement.

This is what Paul says in Philippians 1:9-11 9  And it is my prayer that your love may abound more and more, with knowledge and all discernment, 10 so that you may approve what is excellent, and so be pure and blameless for the day of Christ, 11 filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ, to the glory and praise of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. As this is what he believed and urged others to do, he would not lie.
 

My dear brother, the text is crystal clear about Paul saying that if he had to lie, then he would.  No need to re-translate it and re-interpret it.  Here is what the English translation says:

Philippians 1:15-18
15 It is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
16 The latter do so in love, knowing that I am put here for the defense of the gospel.
17 The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely, supposing that they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains.
18 But what does it matter? The important thing is that in every way, whether from false motives or true, Christ is preached. And because of this I rejoice.

Romans 3:1-8
1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what is the profit of circumcision?
2 Much every way: first of all, that they were intrusted with the oracles of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.
3 For what if some were without faith? shall their want of faith make of none effect the faithfulness of God?
4 God forbid: yea, let God be found true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy words, And mightest prevail when thou comest into judgment.
5 But if our righteousness commendeth the righteousness of God, what shall we say? Is God unrighteous who visiteth with wrath?
6 God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
7 But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?
8 and why not, Let us do evil, that good may come? whose condemnation is just.  
 

Dear Brother, the Holy Spirit is my witness when I say I did not re-interpret it or retranslate the passage, I just explained in simpler terms. After all, who am I to add to or take away from the word of God? You don't need to look beyond these verses to come to the conclusion I came to. For example, Romans 3:7 - But if the truth of God through my lie abounded unto his glory, why am I also still judged as a sinner?  Similarly, in verses Philippians 1:15-18, the passage is very clear - there is only 1 meaning of this - some people are preaching Christ out of false motives - 'envy and rivalry' so that 'they can stir up trouble for me while I am in chains'. The lying that you refer to is the 'false motives' that Paul describes. This says that the lie is that people pretend they preach out of goodwill but it is actually for their 'selfish ambition'.They are competing with Paul whilst he is imprisoned. Paul is saying he doesn't care (i.e. about the envy and rivalry) but he rejoices as Christ is preached.  I just cannot see from where you got the idea that Paul would lie if he had to.

Well, it is 100% clear in this verse that I would still be condemned as a sinner even if a lie I tell is for the glory of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.

 
So as we clearly see, Yahweh Almighty Himself supposedly tricked the enemies of David into thinking that Samuel came to sacrifice, when in actuality this wasn't his primary purpose and mission.  His primary mission was to annoint David, which was kept hidden under the Command of GOD Almighty.
Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
 
 

Yes, God did not allow Samuel to reveal His plans to Saul. Why would he? It wasn't the time when God wanted David to be revealed as the King of Israel. That is not the same as lying.

 

Furthermore, did not GOD Almighty send LYING SPIRITS THAT CAUSED PEOPLE TO LIE many times in the Old Testament?
 
 

This is the passage that you are referring to:
1 Kings 22:17-23
17 Then Micaiah answered, "I saw all Israel scattered on the hills like sheep without a shepherd, and the Lord said, ‘These people have no master. Let each one go home in peace.'"
 
18 The king of Israel said to Jehoshaphat, "Didn't I tell you that he never prophesies anything good about me, but only bad?"
 
19 Micaiah continued, "Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne with all the multitudes of heaven standing around him on his right and on his left. 20 And the Lord said, ‘Who will entice Ahab into attacking Ramoth Gilead and going to his death there?'

"One suggested this, and another that. 21 Finally, a spirit came forward, stood before the Lord and said, ‘I will entice him.'
 
22 "‘By what means?' the Lord asked.

"‘I will go out and be a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all his prophets,' he said.

"‘You will succeed in enticing him,' said the Lord. ‘Go and do it.'
 
23 "So now the Lord has put a deceiving spirit in the mouths of all these prophets of yours. The Lord has decreed disaster for you."

King Ahab wants to go to battle and he was Jehoshaphat to go with him. Jehoshaphat wants to ask the Lord before going for battle so the King calls out 400 false prophets and they all say that the King will be victorious. Jehoshaphat is not convinced and he wants to hear from a prophet of the Lord and therefore Micaiah is called. He prophesied disaster.

We can see that King Ahab, unlike Jehoshaphat, had already made up his mind to do what was against the will of God (i.e. go to war) before he had even heard from the prophet of the Lord. God permitted a a lying spirit to be in all the false prophets. This highlights the absolute sovereignty over all things. Even the lying spirit cannot do anything unless God allows them to. If someone wants to commit a murder, they may have that spirit of Satan in him but it is there because God allowed it to be there. If someone is not under the mighty hand of God, they are open to attack - this due to the choices made by people to turn away from God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. God protects all who trust in his name - he protects them from Satan, from people etc. However, Satan is free to destroy those who are not the children of God - and yes, Satan cannot do anything unless God allows it to happen. But you can see that the Spirit of God did not lie to Ahab - Micaiah prophesied disaster and revealed everything.

I am aware that it says the Quran that it appeared to them that Jesus was crucified. Well, if that were true, Allah would be lying. Also, there is absolutely no reason why this 'false vision' would be of any use to anyone.

 
My discussion with you, dear brother, is based on what the New Testament currently says.  And even with what the New Testament says, we can clearly see that Christ never died.
 
 

The New Testament does say that Jesus died in many places one of which is below.

Mark 15:37-39
37 With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last.
38 The curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. 39 And when the centurion, who stood there in front of Jesus, saw how he died,[a] he said, "Surely this man was the Son of God!"

 
All authority was given to Jesus here on earth, and earth only, by GOD Almighty.  GOD Almighty made him the heir of earth:
 
 

This is not entirely true.

Mathew 28:18
18 Then Jesus came to them and said, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Also, if you accept that all authority on earth had been given to Jesus, why would you refrain from believing what he said and obeying his commands concerning baptism etc ? Yes, the greatest command is to love God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
. Firstly, to love God means to do his will. Secondly, obeying the greatest commandment does not mean that one is allowed to diregard the others - James 2:10 - For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it.

When Jesus came to the Earth, he came to do the will of the Father and did everything through His Holy Spirit. No one denies that. Before he was born as a man, he was in the same nature of God but he hold onto his equality with God but left that to come to Earth for the salvation of mankind.

Philippians 2:6-11

6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
    did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
    by taking the very nature of a servant,
    being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
    he humbled himself
    by becoming obedient to deathâ€"
        even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
    and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.


Yes, Jesus did not want to be exalted by men when he was a man but as we can see in the New Testament, he was worshipped after his resurrection when he was no longer of human form.

Dear brothers and sisters, I urge to to seek God's voice for yourself. The Bible speaks of prophets and men of God but their testimony is their own. The Bible shows us the glory of God but we must all seek the God for ourselves and listen to His voice. I was only able to accept the Bible as the word of God after it God revealed it to me. I don't expect that you will listen to my voice and I wouldn't ask you to; but you must listen to the voice of God.

Mathew 11:25
25 At that time Jesus said, I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. 26 Yes, Father, for this is what you were pleased to do.
 
27 All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.


If we are wise in our own eyes, the Spirit of God will not work in us. Let us be like children and so that we may hear God's voice.
 
And it is the voice of the Lord that lead me to where I now stand in Christ from whom nothing can separate me. I pray that God may do the same for you.

God bless you all.
 
 
Blablabla, Jesus is not God, end off.

Christian 'countries' do not even follow Jesus, they worship him, and their people are full of pornography, homosexuality, paganism, man-made laws, rape, pedophilia, etc.

Worship God alone.

There is none worthy of worship except God alone.

Jesus is Christ is no more than a messenger sent by God.

'Son of God' is an idiom for Servant of God.

 
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 16, 2013, 12:52:07 pm
Blablabla, Jesus is not God, end off.

Christian 'countries' do not even follow Jesus, they worship him, and their people are full of pornography, homosexuality, paganism, man-made laws, rape, pedophilia, etc.

Worship God alone.

There is none worthy of worship except God alone.

Jesus is Christ is no more than a messenger sent by God.

'Son of God' is an idiom for Servant of God.
 
 

Dear adnaanshaikh195,

If there is anything from my previous post that you wish to address specifically, please feel free to do so.

Jesus is called the begotten Son of God - that he was born by the Holy Spirit (i.e. without a worldly father) and not by the will of flesh.

In John 3:16, Jesus says
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It does not matter what Christian countries do - those who follow Christ from their heart would never engage in the activities you have described. In every religion, there are people who hurt others and sin against God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.

Worshipping Jesus is the same as worshipping the Father because they are one.

John 14:11
11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

There are many instances where people worshipped Jesus in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Mathew 2:11, The wise men who came to see Jesus worshipped him

11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

John 9:38, The blind man worshipped Jesus
38 Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him.

In John 20, Thomas calls Jesus "God" when he appeared to the disciples after resurrection. Thomas did not believe that Jesus had resurrected after his death and he said he would not believe until he sees for himself.

John 20:24-29
24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"

But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe."
 
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
 
28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Praise the Lord,
God bless you all.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on February 18, 2013, 05:44:37 pm
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Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: There is only one God on February 19, 2013, 09:02:48 am
Blablabla, Jesus is not God, end off.

Christian 'countries' do not even follow Jesus, they worship him, and their people are full of pornography, homosexuality, paganism, man-made laws, rape, pedophilia, etc.

Worship God alone.

There is none worthy of worship except God alone.

Jesus is Christ is no more than a messenger sent by God.

'Son of God' is an idiom for Servant of God.
 
 

Dear adnaanshaikh195,

If there is anything from my previous post that you wish to address specifically, please feel free to do so.

Jesus is called the begotten Son of God - that he was born by the Holy Spirit (i.e. without a worldly father) and not by the will of flesh.

In John 3:16, Jesus says
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

It does not matter what Christian countries do - those who follow Christ from their heart would never engage in the activities you have described. In every religion, there are people who hurt others and sin against God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
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Worshipping Jesus is the same as worshipping the Father because they are one.

John 14:11
11 Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves.

There are many instances where people worshipped Jesus in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Mathew 2:11, The wise men who came to see Jesus worshipped him

11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense and myrrh.

John 9:38, The blind man worshipped Jesus
38 Then the man said, "Lord, I believe," and he worshiped him.

In John 20, Thomas calls Jesus "God" when he appeared to the disciples after resurrection. Thomas did not believe that Jesus had resurrected after his death and he said he would not believe until he sees for himself.

John 20:24-29
24 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus[a]), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, "We have seen the Lord!"

But he said to them, "Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe."
 
26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, "Peace be with you!" 27 Then he said to Thomas, "Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe."
 
28 Thomas said to him, "My Lord and my God!"

29 Then Jesus told him, "Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."

Praise the Lord,
God bless you all.
 
 

Dear Brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.breadoflife,

You'll have to excuse adnaanshaikh195 here. His primary argument method is "blahblahblah I don't wanna read what you wrote, it probably sucks anyway. I am right. You are just an evil twisted psychopath. Grow up kid". You see, it's really hard coping in debates and discussions when alcohol hits the sweet spot, or as you may know it, the brain.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: jesus.breadoflife on February 20, 2013, 04:17:20 pm

Brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
.breadoflife,

You'll have to excuse adnaanshaikh195 here. His primary argument method is "blahblahblah I don't wanna read what you wrote, it probably sucks anyway. I am right. You are just an evil twisted psychopath. Grow up kid". You see, it's really hard coping in debates and discussions when alcohol hits the sweet spot, or as you may know it, the brain.
 
 

Let us all submit ourselves into the hands of God who is able to remove our shortfalls. I bear no ill will or anger towards anyone but love you all in Christ.

May the grace of Almighty God be with you.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: EDOMS THORN on February 20, 2013, 08:47:40 pm
  I know I am off topic here but could you direct my comment to Osama Abdallah - My NOBEL ally in the fight against our COMMON ENEMY, the "SO CALLED JEW" and fellow seeker of the truth!

I was researching an article I am writing titled; "BLATANT ANTI-SEMITE JESUS CHRIST"  when I came upon your Site through this link;  Was Jesus sent to the Jews only, or - Answering Christianity: https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_mankind.htm    Now I do not seek to belittle you or your knowledge, but JESUS was NOT a JEW! That is a "JEWISH FABLE". Jesus knew who those VIPERS were and exposed them, and they wanted to murder Jesus for that.

In your article you quoted from Matthew 10:5-6 and if you read all of it and then the next chapter you will see;  WHAT JESUS DID!
Matthew 11:1 And it came to pass, when Jesus had made an end of commanding his twelve disciples, he departed thence to teach and to preach in their cities. (Their so called, JEW™ Cities)   JESUS did indeed come to seek the LOST sheep of the (ten Tribes) of ISRAEL and they were not and have NEVER been JEWS! This is a truth the even Christians HATE! The JEWS have infiltrated the Christian Seminaries and Churches, and deceived them, and their pride will not allow them to see the PLAIN truth.

Anyway, I have said that the ARAB People are my ally since 1989, we ALL share a common enemy that seeks to destroy us ALL, They want us to fight and hate each other and those disgusting Christian Zionist's are all to willing to be manipulated by the Vipers that want to bring about the N.W.O.  AT my website I have presented the irrefutable truth that is hated by JEWS and Christians a like! The Christians hate me (A CHRISTAN) because I point out the fact that they have chosen to believe JEWISH FABLES!     

If you find the time check out just WHO those JEWS really are!
http://www.edomsthorn.wordpress.com/edom-the-story-of-jacob-and-esau-is-

PEACE to you and yours

E.T.
Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: Wizdom on February 23, 2013, 02:33:00 pm
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Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 25, 2013, 10:52:24 am
Peace be upon you dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).breadoflife,

You are obviously a victim of the trinitarian blasphemeis.  It's really not that difficult to see from the New Testament how Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, is only a creation of GOD Almighty.
Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.

I do not wish to drag this too long, because I have a lot of things to do.  But all of your points above had been soundly and thoroughly refuted at: www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm.

 

The Doubting Thomas:

Doubting Thomas said "My Lord and my God" to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)The church thoroughly admits that NT is badly altered, and earliest copies of NT don't date before year 200.  So not only the Aramaic original language of Jesus was never documented, hence his original sayings are permanently lost, but the Greek writings (a language Jesus never spoke) had been badly corrupted.  Trinity and all its faulty analysis are based on writings that are totally off (different language and phrases spoken altogether) and utter nonsense.  Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

  • Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh.  Jesus said he was greater than Moses.  Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28).  Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty.  All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest.  Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator.  And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty.  He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.
      

  • The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek".  And who is Melchizedek?  According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20).  Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
      
  • The Bible called Jesus a slave (abd) of GOD throughout the Old Testament!
      
  • Jesus denied knowing when Judgment Day will come, and said I DON'T KNOW, ONLY GOD ALONE KNOWS!
  • For ample more details, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
    www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm



    Jesus and the Father are One:

    Jesus is one in the Father.  Yes.  But Jesus also said that his followers are one in him, and he is one in them, and they are one in the Father, and all of the Believers are one in the Father (https://www.answering-christianity.com/muslim1/john10_30.htm) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/i_father_one_response_dr_zakir_naik.mp4)].  Why did you ignore this part?  Are you deliberatly trying to fool or mislead the reader?



    "Son of GOD" Title:

    As to Jesus being the so-called "only begotten son of GOD Almighty", yes, and go to the Old Testament to see the other ONLY BEGOTTEN SONS OF GOD ALMIGHTY!  And even the Bible itself defines Son of GOD to mean a Righteous Believer and Servant of GOD Almighty.  Also, Jesus Chist reduced his "Son of GOD" title to be even BELOW the "God" (Elohim) title that is given to every single Believer.  The reader can visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm for ample proofs from the NT.

    FRIENDS = SONS:

    In fact, we further read the following in the Bibles:

    Isaiah 41:8
    "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7
    Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23
    And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

    So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

    [002:257] Allah is the friend and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend.

    So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.

    Again dear brother, please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203


    BEGET = CHOSE:

    Regarding the above quote:

     

    Quote
    King James Bible Psalm 2:7
    I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
     

    Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

    [027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

    ‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

    [003:033] God did choose ] اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

    ‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

    [003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

    ‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

    [007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

    ‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

    [022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

    ‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

    [035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

    ‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

    [038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

    ‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

    [039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

    ‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

    Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know.  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT.  And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

    1-  Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

    2-  Wali - Guardian.

    In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali.  But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father.  This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery.  No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty!  Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these.  Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter.  Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters??  No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

    [005:018]  (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

    Again, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203

    As to Jesus being worshiped, you know very well that many others in the Old Testament were "worshiped" and bowed down to.  Worshiped in the Bible means to bow to the chosen leader or master and follow him.  It doesn't to pray to him or to worship him as GOD Almighty is Worshiped!  Again, are you trying to fool or mislead the reader with trinity-lies and blasphemies??



    Definition of "The Father":

    Furthermore, did you know that "Father" in Hebrew means The Supreme GOD Who Knows Everything?  Rabbis and Priests in the Bible and in Judaism are called "Father".  This is where Roman Catholics get the "Father" title for their Priests from.  This is also where Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, was called "Everlasting Father" [1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%209:6&version=NIV)] (Highest Priest or Rabbi or Teacher for being the Messiah and King of the Jews and all Earth) in Isaiah 9:6 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%209:6&version=NIV) [1 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm)] [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm)] [3 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm)] [4 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/lord_of_sabbath_lie.htm)] comes from.  GOD Almighty being "The Father" means that GOD Almighty is the Supreme and All Knowing GOD Almighty of the Universe.  That's what Father means.  And Son means the Righteous Believer and Follower of GOD Almighty [1 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm)].

    And again, Jesus Christ being called "Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty, because throughout the Bible, the Righteous Believers are all called "God" (Elohim) and "Sons of God".  Visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm for ample proofs.

    The reason why Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, was called MIGHTY God was because he is the Messiah, and the King of the Jews, and the coming Ruler of the entire Earth who will crush the anti-Christ.  He is the heir of all earth, and ONLY THE EARTH (https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm) according to the Old and New Testaments of the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  So he is no mere God.  He is a Mighty God.  But he is NOT the Creator of the Universe.  Besides, many Prophets and Angels were also given Mighty Godly Names similar to the one given to Christ.  Visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm for ample proofs.

    Furthermore, the Bible declares that GOD Almighty created us in His Image.  The Bible further defines being in the "Image of GOD" means having the Attributes of GOD Almighty that He, the Almighty, Has put in us, humans.  Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/let_us.htm for ample details and proofs.  This is another reason why GOD Almighty is symbolically called "The Father".  He is the Supreme GOD Almighty who created man in His Image, by giving him some of His Divine Attributes:

    Genesis 1:26-27
    26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

    "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.  (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 3:5)"

    "and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.  (From the NIV Bible, Ephesians 4:24)"

    "Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.   (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 7:1)"

    "On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them.  (From the NIV Bible, Zechariah 12:8 )"

    Again, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/let_us.htm for ample more details and proofs.



    Jesus had to match Melchizedek:

    And furthermore, did you know that Jesus Christ had to be this way (miraculous, has authority, and is powerful), because he needed to match up with Melchizedek?  Melchizedek had no father and no mother (Jesus at least had a mother), and he was the Highest Jewish Priest.  And he was Eternal.  Jesus had to at least be equal to Melchizedek.  See: Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7:1-20 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2014:18,%20Psalm%20110:4,%20Hebrews%205:6-10,%20Hebrews%206:20,%20Hebrews%207:1-20&version=NIV):

    Genesis 14:18
    18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High,


    Psalm 110:4
    4 The Lord has sworn
        and will not change his mind:
    "You are a priest forever,
        in the order of Melchizedek."


    Hebrews 5:6-10
    6 And he says in another place,

    "You are a priest forever,
        in the order of Melchizedek."[a]

    7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
    8 Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered
    9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
    10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.


    Hebrews 6:20
    20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.


    Hebrews 7:1-20
    Melchizedek the Priest
    1 This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,
    2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means "king of righteousness"; then also, "king of Salem" means "king of peace."

    3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

    4 Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!
    5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham.
    6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.
    7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater.
    8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.
    9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham,
    10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

    Jesus Like Melchizedek
    11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?
    12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
    13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.
    14 For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
    15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears,
    16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an
    indestructible life (another proof Jesus Christ never died (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm)!).
    17 For it is declared:

    "You are a priest forever,
        in the order of Melchizedek."


    18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
    19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
    20 And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath,

    Again, to the reader, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm




    A Brotherly Reminder:

    I want to end this reply by reminding you also with the following verses:

    Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." 

    Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows.  Notice here how "The Father" title was used for the All Knowing GOD Almighty.

    Also, if Christ was indeed your Creator, brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife, then JESUS HERE CLEARLY LIED!  If he were GOD Almighty, he would've certainly known when the Hour would come.  Him denying that he had any knowledge about the Hour, while he supposedly knew it, makes him a liar.

    Luke 18:19 ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."

    Mark 10:18 "And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone."?

    Trinity is false and a blasphemy.  Islam is the Divine Truth.  Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone for making the Noble Quran be the Perfect and Everlasting Miracle, for us humans, out of all of His Divine Miracles!  And may Allah Almighty send His Peace, Mercy and Blessings upon our Beloved and Blessed Prophet, Teacher and Role Model, Muhammad.  Ameen.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: Wizdom on March 01, 2013, 05:52:43 pm
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    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: There is only one God on March 01, 2013, 09:07:49 pm
    gotta correct something here. @jesusbreadoflife: It was not part of Jewish burial rites to use spices and linen cloth, that was Egyptian mummification
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: jesus.breadoflife on March 03, 2013, 08:35:45 am
    Dear Brother Osama,

    Apologies for the late reply.

     
    Jesus is one in the Father.  Yes.  But Jesus also said that his followers are one in him, and he is one in them, and they are one in the Father, and all of the Believers are one in the Father (https://www.answering-christianity.com/muslim1/john10_30.htm) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/i_father_one_response_dr_zakir_naik.mp4)].  Why did you ignore this part?  Are you deliberatly trying to fool or mislead the reader?
     
     

    Could you please clarify which verse you are referring to that says believers and God are one?  Jesus said that he and the Father are one. [John 10:30 -  I and the Father are one The Bible does say that God will live in those who love and obey Him and put his Spirit in them.
    John 14:23 -  Jesus replied, ‘Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.  
    Ezekiel 36:26 -  I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.


    Jesus is called the only begotten Son of God in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . The Bible does not speak of any other only begotten Sons of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Worship in the Bible does not mean to simply bow down before someone. Worshipping of the Lord comes from your spirit and it is giving praise to the almighty creator.

    John 4:24
    24 God is spirit, and his worshippers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.'

    Jesus is the King of Jews/King of Israel in the, also the Saviour - all in the New Testament.

    Mark 15:32 (Lord Jesus is mocked when he is on the cross)
    32 Let this Messiah, this king of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe.' Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him

    2 Peter 3:18
    18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

    When we looked to the Old Testament, we can see that the terms used to describe God matches this.

    Isaiah 44:6
    ‘This is what the Lord says -
        Israel's King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
    I am the first and I am the last;
        apart from me there is no God.

    Lord Jesus also says of himself that he is the first and last in the New Testament.

    Revealation 22:13
    I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

    There are many such examples which show that Jesus and the Father are one.

    Finally, dear brother, there is no need to call me a liar. I know the Bible to be amazing and true. My faith is not paganism or polytheism. My God is one - he is my Father, my rock, my protector, the Spirit who lives in me. Jesus is my Lord and I love him in perfect truth. God loves all of you, we are the work of his hands. Let there be no unpleasantness between us.

    God bless you all :)
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: jesus.breadoflife on March 03, 2013, 09:32:26 am
    gotta correct something here. @jesusbreadoflife: It was not part of Jewish burial rites to use spices and linen cloth, that was Egyptian mummification
     
     

    I included a reference in my original post - http://www.ehow.co.uk/info_8493339_jewish-burial-customs-anointing-oils.html

    Also, John 19:40

    40 Taking Jesus' body, the two of them wrapped it, with the spices, in strips of linen. This was in accordance with Jewish burial customs.  
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: Wizdom on March 06, 2013, 12:01:47 am
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    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 13, 2013, 12:31:08 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Tariq and Everyone,

    Thank you for reminding me about this dialogue.  I will insha'Allah resume posting answers to brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife tomorrow, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: Wizdom on March 18, 2013, 12:03:18 am
    Jazak'Allah Khair brother Osama, Insha'Allah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 18, 2013, 09:43:41 am
    Dear Brother Osama,

    Apologies for the late reply.

     
    Jesus is one in the Father.  Yes.  But Jesus also said that his followers are one in him, and he is one in them, and they are one in the Father, and all of the Believers are one in the Father (https://www.answering-christianity.com/muslim1/john10_30.htm) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/i_father_one_response_dr_zakir_naik.mp4)].  Why did you ignore this part?  Are you deliberatly trying to fool or mislead the reader?
     
     

    Could you please clarify which verse you are referring to that says believers and God are one?  Jesus said that he and the Father are one. [John 10:30 -  I and the Father are one The Bible does say that God will live in those who love and obey Him and put his Spirit in them.
    John 14:23 -  Jesus replied, ‘Anyone who loves me will obey my teaching. My Father will love them, and we will come to them and make our home with them.  
    Ezekiel 36:26 -  I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh.
     
     

    My dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife, it is beyond clear that you are a victim of the paganism and blasphemy of trinity.  One thing that I really humbly want to ask you, and that is to actually read the sources that I give you, because I believe everything about the blasphemy of trinity had been soundly refuted in the arguments and links that I gave above.

    Regarding all in GOD Almighty are One, and GOD Almighty is One in all Believers, EXACTLY AS JESUS AND GOD ARE ONE, here is the verse:

    John 17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%2017&version=KJV)
    ......
    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
    23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

    A Plea to All Christians:

    I ask you and ask every Christian in the Holy Name of GOD Almighty to actually READ your entire New Testament from Matthew to Revelation!  Picking verses off of pamphlets or  "cheat-sheets" that are handed to you by missionaries to quote verses left and right from them, and make baseless arguments will only doom you to Hell.  Not saying that Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife is doing that here.  But the shallow and out-of-context arguments that trinitarians continue to present are just too pathetic, and also demonstrate their lack of knowledge about their own Scriptures by the wholesale.  I wouldn't be exaggerating if I say that it is a case of the blind leading the blind, or (sorry to say that) the dumb leading the dumb!  As Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

    [002:018]  Deaf, dumb, and blind, they will not return (to the path).

    [002:171]  The parable of those who reject Faith is as if one were to shout Like a goat- herd, to things that listen to nothing but calls and cries: Deaf, dumb, and blind, they are void of wisdom.

    [017:097]  It is he whom God guides, that is on true Guidance; but he whom He leaves astray - for such wilt thou find no protector besides Him. On the Day of Judgment We shall gather, them together, prone on their faces, blind, dumb, and deaf: their abode will be Hell: every time it shows abatement, We shall increase from them the fierceness of the Fire.

    GOD Almighty is ONE and ABSOLUTE ONE.  Jesus Christ is not even a bacteria when compared to GOD Almighty!  Jesus and all of the Prophets and EVERY THING created in the Universe are less than a microscopic bacteria when compared to GOD Almighty.  Jesus was no more than a GOD-FEARING Servant:

    Isaiah 11:1-3 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm)
    1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
    2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
    counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
    3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or decide by what he hears with his ears;"

    Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm to see the Spirit of GOD Almighty coming down upon many of the Righeous Believers.  But it is amazing that the Bible says that the spirit of FEARING GOD will rest upon Jesus, and yet we find pagans calling him the Creator of the Universe!

    A dangerous mix of ignorance and blasphemy and inheritance of ancient 3-headed pagan religions that your fathers had and worshiped all mixed and blended together, which is what the polytheist trinitarian paganism and blasphemy (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links) is all about today.



     
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    Jesus is called the only begotten Son of God in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). The Bible does not speak of any other only begotten Sons of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Worship in the Bible does not mean to simply bow down before someone. Worshipping of the Lord comes from your spirit and it is giving praise to the almighty creator.
     

    I already refuted this blasphemy in my rebuttal in the previous post.  Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm.  Here are few examples:

    Exodus 4:22 "Thus saith Jehovah, Israel is my son, even my firstborn."

    Jeremiah 31:9 "I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn."

    And in Genesis, where it speaks about Religions and people millions of years before Judaism, every Believer was also called SON OF GOD!  Also Angels were called Sons of GOD Almighty, and that they slept with the "daughters of men" and caused for giants to be born on earth.

    Again, Jesus had to match Melchizedek:

    Furthermore, like I mentioned, everything about Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, had to be this way (him being powerful, miraculous, born out of a virgin, mighty), because he had to at least match up to the Jews' Highest Priest Melchizedek who had no beginning and no end, and no father and no mother, and he was mighty and miraculous.

    Furthermore, all of Jesus' miracles were performed by other Prophets in the Old Testament.  Please visit my previous post for all of the references.

    Also as I already elaborated on in my previous post, "Son of GOD" means the Servant of GOD Almighty, and a pious Believer who has the Likeness of GOD Almighty:

     
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    Peace be upon you dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).breadoflife,

    You are obviously a victim of the trinitarian blasphemeis.  It's really not that difficult to see from the New Testament how Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, is only a creation of GOD Almighty.

    I do not wish to drag this too long, because I have a lot of things to do.  But all of your points above had been soundly and thoroughly refuted at: www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm.



    Jesus and the Father are One:

    Jesus is one in the Father.  Yes.  But Jesus also said that his followers are one in him, and he is one in them, and they are one in the Father, and all of the Believers are one in the Father (https://www.answering-christianity.com/muslim1/john10_30.htm) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/i_father_one_response_dr_zakir_naik.mp4)].  Why did you ignore this part?  Are you deliberatly trying to fool or mislead the reader?



    "Son of GOD" Title:

    As to Jesus being the so-called "only begotten son of GOD Almighty", yes, and go to the Old Testament to see the other ONLY BEGOTTEN SONS OF GOD ALMIGHTY!  And even the Bible itself defines Son of GOD to mean a Righteous Believer and Servant of GOD Almighty.  Also, Jesus Chist reduced his "Son of GOD" title to be even BELOW the "God" (Elohim) title that is given to every single Believer.  The reader can visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm for ample proofs from the NT.

    As to Jesus being worshiped, you know very well that many others in the Old Testament were "worshiped" and bowed down to.  Worshiped in the Bible means to bow to the chosen leader or master and follow him.  It doesn't to pray to him or to worship him as GOD Almighty is Worshiped!  Again, are you trying to fool or mislead the reader with trinity-lies and blasphemies??



    Definition of "The Father":

    Furthermore, did you know that "Father" in Hebrew means The Supreme GOD Who Knows Everything?  Rabbis and Priests in the Bible and in Judaism are called "Father".  This is where Roman Catholics get the "Father" title for their Priests from.  This is also where Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, was called "Everlasting Father" [1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%209:6&version=NIV)] (Highest Priest or Rabbi or Teacher for being the Messiah and King of the Jews and all Earth) in Isaiah 9:6 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%209:6&version=NIV) [1 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm)] [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm)] [3 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm)] [4 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/lord_of_sabbath_lie.htm)] comes from.  GOD Almighty being "The Father" means that GOD Almighty is the Supreme and All Knowing GOD Almighty of the Universe.  That's what Father means.  And Son means the Righteous Believer and Follower of GOD Almighty [1 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm)].

    And again, Jesus Christ being called "Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6 doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty, because throughout the Bible, the Righteous Believers are all called "God" (Elohim) and "Sons of God".  Visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm for ample proofs.

    The reason why Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, was called MIGHTY God was because he is the Messiah, and the King of the Jews, and the coming Ruler of the entire Earth who will crush the anti-Christ.  He is the heir of all earth, and ONLY THE EARTH (https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm) according to the Old and New Testaments of the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  So he is no mere God.  He is a Mighty God.  But he is NOT the Creator of the Universe.  Besides, many Prophets and Angels were also given Mighty Godly Names similar to the one given to Christ.  Visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm for ample proofs.

    Furthermore, the Bible declares that GOD Almighty created us in His Image.  The Bible further defines being in the "Image of GOD" means having the Attributes of GOD Almighty that He, the Almighty, Has put in us, humans.  Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/let_us.htm for ample details and proofs.  This is another reason why GOD Almighty is symbolically called "The Father".  He is the Supreme GOD Almighty who created man in His Image, by giving him some of His Divine Attributes:

    Genesis 1:26-27
    26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
    27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them.

    "For God knows that when you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.  (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 3:5)"

    "and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.  (From the NIV Bible, Ephesians 4:24)"

    "Then the LORD said to Moses, "See, I have made you like God to Pharaoh, and your brother Aaron will be your prophet.   (From the NIV Bible, Exodus 7:1)"

    "On that day the LORD will shield those who live in Jerusalem, so that the feeblest among them will be like David, and the house of David will be like God, like the Angel of the LORD going before them.  (From the NIV Bible, Zechariah 12:8 )"

    Again, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/let_us.htm for ample more details and proofs.



    Jesus had to match Melchizedek:

    And furthermore, did you know that Jesus Christ had to be this way (miraculous, has authority, and is powerful), because he needed to match up with Melchizedek?  Melchizedek had no father and no mother (Jesus at least had a mother), and he was the Highest Jewish Priest.  And he was Eternal.  Jesus had to at least be equal to Melchizedek.  See: Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7:1-20 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2014:18,%20Psalm%20110:4,%20Hebrews%205:6-10,%20Hebrews%206:20,%20Hebrews%207:1-20&version=NIV):

    Genesis 14:18
    18 Then Melchizedek king of Salem brought out bread and wine. He was priest of God Most High,


    Psalm 110:4
    4 The Lord has sworn
        and will not change his mind:
    "You are a priest forever,
        in the order of Melchizedek."


    Hebrews 5:6-10
    6 And he says in another place,

    "You are a priest forever,
        in the order of Melchizedek."[a]

    7 During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with fervent cries and tears to the one who could save him from death, and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
    8 Son though he was, he learned obedience from what he suffered
    9 and, once made perfect, he became the source of eternal salvation for all who obey him
    10 and was designated by God to be high priest in the order of Melchizedek.


    Hebrews 6:20
    20 where our forerunner, Jesus, has entered on our behalf. He has become a high priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek.


    Hebrews 7:1-20
    Melchizedek the Priest
    1 This Melchizedek was king of Salem and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed him,
    2 and Abraham gave him a tenth of everything. First, the name Melchizedek means "king of righteousness"; then also, "king of Salem" means "king of peace."

    3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God, he remains a priest forever.

    4 Just think how great he was: Even the patriarch Abraham gave him a tenth of the plunder!
    5 Now the law requires the descendants of Levi who become priests to collect a tenth from the people—that is, from their fellow Israelites—even though they also are descended from Abraham.
    6 This man, however, did not trace his descent from Levi, yet he collected a tenth from Abraham and blessed him who had the promises.
    7 And without doubt the lesser is blessed by the greater.
    8 In the one case, the tenth is collected by people who die; but in the other case, by him who is declared to be living.
    9 One might even say that Levi, who collects the tenth, paid the tenth through Abraham,
    10 because when Melchizedek met Abraham, Levi was still in the body of his ancestor.

    Jesus Like Melchizedek
    11 If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood—and indeed the law given to the people established that priesthood—why was there still need for another priest to come, one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?
    12 For when the priesthood is changed, the law must be changed also.
    13 He of whom these things are said belonged to a different tribe, and no one from that tribe has ever served at the altar.
    14 For it is clear that our Lord descended from Judah, and in regard to that tribe Moses said nothing about priests.
    15 And what we have said is even more clear if another priest like Melchizedek appears,
    16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life (another proof Jesus Christ never died (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm)!).
    17 For it is declared:

    "You are a priest forever,
        in the order of Melchizedek."


    18 The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless
    19 (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
    20 And it was not without an oath! Others became priests without any oath,

    Again, to the reader, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/at.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/1john2_22.htm




    A Brotherly Reminder:

    I want to end this reply by reminding you also with the following verses:

    Matthew 24:36 Jesus said "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." 

    Jesus told his followers that no one (including Jesus) knows when the judgment day will come, only GOD knows.  Notice here how "The Father" title was used for the All Knowing GOD Almighty.

    Also, if Christ was indeed your Creator, brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).breadoflife, then JESUS HERE CLEARLY LIED!  If he were GOD Almighty, he would've certainly known when the Hour would come.  Him denying that he had any knowledge about the Hour, while he supposedly knew it, makes him a liar.

    Luke 18:19 ""Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good—except God alone."

    Mark 10:18 "And Jesus said to him, ‘Why do you call me good? No one is good but God alone."?

    Trinity is false and a blasphemy.  Islam is the Divine Truth.  Indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone for making the Noble Quran be the Perfect and Everlasting Miracle, for us humans, out of all of His Divine Miracles!  And may Allah Almighty send His Peace, Mercy and Blessings upon our Beloved and Blessed Prophet, Teacher and Role Model, Muhammad.  Ameen.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     



    Trinity is another form of the pagan 3-headed god religions:

    So again, your belief is paganistic that originated from paganism.  This whole 3-headed god thing is all pagan, and comes from pagan origins.  Hinduism and Europes' pagan religions were all about 3-headed god, and/or 3 gods.  This is where your blapshemous and false trinity comes from.  It's another pagan version of the 3-headed god pagan religions.



     
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    John 4:24
    24 God is spirit, and his worshippers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.'

    Jesus is the King of Jews/King of Israel in the, also the Saviour - all in the New Testament.

    Mark 15:32 (Lord Jesus is mocked when he is on the cross)
    32 Let this Messiah, this king of Israel, come down now from the cross, that we may see and believe.' Those crucified with him also heaped insults on him

    2 Peter 3:18
    18 But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and forever! Amen.

    When we looked to the Old Testament, we can see that the terms used to describe God matches this.

    Isaiah 44:6
    ‘This is what the Lord says -
        Israel's King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty:
    I am the first and I am the last;
        apart from me there is no God.

    Lord Jesus also says of himself that he is the first and last in the New Testament.

    Revealation 22:13
    I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.

    There are many such examples which show that Jesus and the Father are one.

    Finally, dear brother, there is no need to call me a liar. I know the Bible to be amazing and true. My faith is not paganism or polytheism. My God is one - he is my Father, my rock, my protector, the Spirit who lives in me. Jesus is my Lord and I love him in perfect truth. God loves all of you, we are the work of his hands. Let there be no unpleasantness between us.

    God bless you all :)
     
     

    First of all, the Book of Revelation was a dream written by a person named "John".  He was neither the desciple John nor John the Baptist.

    Second of all, read Revelation 20, 21 and then 22.  You'll see clear distinctions between GOD Almighty, Jesus Christ, and the Servant-Angel and the rest of the Angels.  Jesus had Angels assigned for him from GOD Almighty.  And Jesus here, in this dream, is the beginning and the end here on earth!  The battle with satan, in other words, ends with HIM!  He is the Mighty Messiah that will create the Kingdom of GOD Almighty here on earth.  And as I already proved in my previous post, Jesus' inheritence (him being the heir of GOD Almighty) was ONLY FOR PLANET EARTH AND NOTHING MORE.  The Bible further says that all of the Believers are also the heirs of GOD Almighty.
    Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.

    Read my previous rebuttals.  Start from this thread: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg2677.html#msg2677.

    May Allah Almighty continue to lead you to Islam.  Ameen.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: jesus.breadoflife on March 22, 2013, 06:50:34 pm
     Hi brother,

    God bless you all. I would just like to quickly reply to one of your points: that "God is one in all believers".  I am afraid you have misinterpreted this passage completely.

    John 17:21,22
    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

    This verse is saying that all the believers should be as one. What does it mean for the believers to be one?

    Acts 4:32
    32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.

    Lord Jesus said that he and the Father are one -

    John 10:30
    30 I and the Father are one."

    If you read John 17:21-22 carefully, it is saying that the believers should all be one just as Jesus and God are one. Clearly, this does not mean that the believers are all literally one person  but that they are of one heart and mind. There verses later that say that the believers should be one in God and Jesus (that they also may be one in us). Unless the spirit of God is in them and is helping them, it is impossible for people to always be completely of one heart and mind. I.e. unless they are walking in God's path, they cannot be one. Therefore, when we look at the passages, we can see that Jesus and the Father are one and the believers should all be one. I hope you can see the difference - the Bible does not say that believers and God are one but it says that Jesus and God are one.

    I will reply to the rest of your post in the next few days, if it is God's will.

    Let us humble ourselves before Almighty God, His steadfast love and mercy endure forever.

    Praise the Lord
     
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    Post by: Wizdom on March 28, 2013, 12:10:05 pm
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    As'salamu Alaikum my dear brother Tariq,

    I don't know what we would've done without you, akhi.  Hehehehhe :).  I got very used to your bumps that after I make a post, I go to sleep for a while to wait for you to wake me up :).  Thank you for help us to push ourselves.  I appreciate it dear brother.


     
    Hi brother,

    God bless you all. I would just like to quickly reply to one of your points: that "God is one in all believers".  I am afraid you have misinterpreted this passage completely.

    John 17:21,22
    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

    This verse is saying that all the believers should be as one. What does it mean for the believers to be one?
     

    Peace be upon you my dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife,

    All I needed to do to thoroughly silence this blasphemy that you wrote, and believe in, was simply emphasise a couple of quotes from your writings.  Do you even see how ridiculous and stupid trinity is?  I mean, we're not talking about here some straight forward and clear texts that your Bible has about Jesus being MY CREATOR, and here me the blasphemous Muslim rejecting them.  No, we're talking about your polytheist and pagan people inventing insults and blasphemies on GOD Almighty.  Let us take a look at a few simple points here:

    1-  The Believers are to be one in each others and in Jesus and in GOD Almighty EXACTLY GOD Almighty and Jesus are also one in mission and purpose.  I have no idea how you missed that my dear one.

    2-  The Glory that GOD Almighty gave to Jesus??  Do you even understand what you read, my brother?  If Jesus was your Creator, then how could GLory be GIVENNNN to him?  It would've been part of him from eternity.  The fact that it was given to Jesus proves that Jesus was a mere creation of GOD Almighty, my beloved brother.


    An Amazing Blasphemy!

    And I have already proven in my thorough refutations above, that this whole thing about Jesus' Kingdom, Power and Might, and him being the Heir of GOD, and the Authority that was given to him by GOD Almighty, are all limited and contained to planet earth ONLY, according to the Bible itself, and that Jesus had to have all of this might, power, miracles and authority because HE HAD TO BE A MATCH to the Jews' heighest priest, Melchizedek, who had no begining and end, nor had he father or mother.

    I find it quite interesting here that Melchizedek being Eternal, and not having a begining nor an end, nor was he born from any father or mother, nor did he have any father or mother is not literal to you from the Bible, but Jesus and the Father are One in purpose and mission has to mean that Jesus is our Creator.  I truly find that to be quite an amazing trinitarian blasphemy and absurdity.

    To the reader, please see my refutations above for ample Biblical verses on Melchizedek and many other points.

    And I have already proven in my thorough refutations above, that "THE FATHER" in the Bible means the Al-Knowing GOD Almighty, according to how the Bible defined it.

    And I have already proven in my thorough refutations above, that "The Son" means Righeous and Blessed Servant and Creation of GOD Almighty, also according to how the Bible defined it.


     
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    Acts 4:32
    32 All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.

    Lord Jesus said that he and the Father are one -

    John 10:30
    30 I and the Father are one."

    If you read John 17:21-22 carefully, it is saying that the believers should all be one just as Jesus and God are one.
     

    This further proves my point and refutes yours, my dear brother.


     
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    Clearly, this does not mean that the believers are all literally one person  but that they are of one heart and mind.
     

    So why do you then want to force the same statement on Jesus and GOD Almighty to be literal, and to mean that Jesus is your Creator?  Why can't you humble yourself (arrogant, bold and daring towards GOD, and humble towards humans is what Christians are) before GOD Almighty and not force nonsensical reading and blasphemies into the simple text?


     
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    There verses later that say that the believers should be one in God and Jesus (that they also may be one in us). Unless the spirit of God is in them and is helping them, it is impossible for people to always be completely of one heart and mind. I.e. unless they are walking in God's path, they cannot be one. Therefore, when we look at the passages, we can see that Jesus and the Father are one and the believers should all be one. I hope you can see the difference - the Bible does not say that believers and God are one but it says that Jesus and God are one.

    I will reply to the rest of your post in the next few days, if it is God's will.

    Let us humble ourselves before Almighty God, His steadfast love and mercy endure forever.

    Praise the Lord

     
     

    May Allah Almighty continue to lead you and lead the reader more and more towards Islam, and may Allah Almighty open your heart to Islam and have you convert someday.  Ameen.


    Did you know that it's not ELOH-IM?  It's ALLAH!

    My beloved, Allah Almighty had sent you here to test you.  There is a purpose and a reason why you and I are having this discussion.  I am very sorry if I ever offended you.  I just sincerely hope and pray to Allah Almighty that you see that you're being called by GOD Almighty to embrace Islam.  Islam is the Original Faith.  And Islam came to the Arabs (fresh and had no previous and corrupt scriptures) to restore the original Faith (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm).  The original Believers from Adam and Noah and others were always called Muslims, according to your own Scriptures (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm) in Hebrew and Aramaic and Greek.  Other ancient Scriptures also outside the Bible have the same claim.  And Islam had started with Adam and ended with Muhammad, peace be upon all of the Messengers and Prophets of Allah Almighty. 

    And last and definitely not least, Did you know that Elohim is Allah?  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following links for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:


    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)



    www.answering-christianity.com/allah.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/allah6.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

    Consider these points and take them to heart as you type your next response.

    Take care dear brother,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: Wizdom on March 29, 2013, 07:18:08 am
    As'salamu Alaikum my dear brother Tariq,

    I don't know what we would've done without you, akhi.  Hehehehhe :).  I got very used to your bumps that after I make a post, I go to sleep for a while to wait for you to wake me up :).  Thank you for help us to push ourselves.  I appreciate it dear brother.
     

    :D No problem brother Osama, and thank you very much, and you're welcome :)
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: jesus.breadoflife on April 02, 2013, 05:11:22 pm
    Praise the Lord,

     
    John 17:21,22
    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

    This verse is saying that all the believers should be as one. What does it mean for the believers to be one?
     

    Peace be upon you my dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife,

    All I needed to do to thoroughly silence this blasphemy that you wrote, and believe in, was simply emphasise a couple of quotes from your writings.  Do you even see how ridiculous and stupid trinity is?  I mean, we're not talking about here some straight forward and clear texts that your Bible has about Jesus being MY CREATOR, and here me the blasphemous Muslim rejecting them.  No, we're talking about your polytheist and pagan people inventing insults and blasphemies on GOD Almighty.  Let us take a look at a few simple points here:

    1-  The Believers are to be one in each others and in Jesus and in GOD Almighty EXACTLY GOD Almighty and Jesus are also one in mission and purpose.  I have no idea how you missed that my dear one.
    [/quote]

    At the risk of repeating myself,
    1. The believers should all be as one - in their hearts.
    2. Jesus says they should be "one in us" - i.e. what unites them to be one is Lord Jesus and the Father.
    3. Jesus says that he and the Father are one
    4. The Bible does not say that God and the believers are one.
     
     
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    Clearly, this does not mean that the believers are all literally one person  but that they are of one heart and mind.
     

    So why do you then want to force the same statement on Jesus and GOD Almighty to be literal, and to mean that Jesus is your Creator?  Why can't you humble yourself (arrogant, bold and daring towards GOD, and humble towards humans is what Christians are) before GOD Almighty and not force nonsensical reading and blasphemies into the simple text?

     
     

    Well, we do not believe that the Father and Son are literally one - since the Father did not come into this world but the Son did and he is the one that died on the cross. For example, your sprit, soul and body are separate yet you are one person.

    There are many verses in the Bible which show that Lord Jesus is more than an ordinary man. The  Son of God appeared to his people even in the Old Testament and spoke to them.

    Isaiah 44:6

    Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel
        and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
    "I am the first and I am the last;
        besides me there is no god.

    Isaiah 43:10

    11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

    We can see that Jesus is also called the King of Israel and the saviour (i.e. Redeemer) in the New Testament.

    1 Peter 1:1

    1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

    John 1:49

    49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

    Brother, there is no need to apologise at all; I love you as Lord Jesus has taught me and if I have caused you any offence, it was not intentional.

    1 Corinthians 13: 4-6
    4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

    I hope this is something we can all agree on :)

    This will be my last reply on this particular post. If God allows, I will start posting new topics (covering other things highlighted in this post, perhaps) in a few days.

    God bless us all.
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on April 02, 2013, 09:17:16 pm
    Well, we do not believe that the Father and Son are literally one - since the Father did not come into this world but the Son did and he is the one that died on the cross. For example, your sprit, soul and body are separate yet you are one person.
     

    Peace be upon you dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife,

    I knew this answer was going to come up sometime in our discussion.  Here is the problem with your analogy:

    1-  You do not own your body, nor are YOU your body (hands, arms, feet, etc...).  Your body is no more than a vehicle that Allah Almighty has created from dust to be 100% under your service.

    2-  There are things that you have no control over, such as controlling your heart beats, the functioning of your other organs such as your lungs, kidneys, stomach, and so on.  They work beyond your control.

    3-  If Jesus was GOD and GOD was Jesus, then Jesus can not be the helpless and weak and begging Servant, who couldn't do anything without GOD Almighty's Permission and Will. 



    Jesus hid and ran away after he delcared to be Yahweh?!

    Timing just couldn't be any more perfect.  HEAR ME O PEOPLE:  I AM YAHWEH...  OH NO!!  SOME BODY HELP!!  RUN!!!!

    If Jesus Christ was indeed Yahweh Almighty, the Sovereign LORD and Creator of this entire Universe and everything, then Jesus Christ would not have run away from few men charging towards him with stones by crawling on his four and hiding under a table and sneaking out the door, while some men wanted to beat him up while others were trying to break it up and prevent them.  At the very least, he could've pointed his finger at them and froze them in their places.  But no, he ran away with fear from a bunch of men:

    John 8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%208&version=NIV)
    58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!"
    59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him (throw stones at him in other words; not STONE him to death), but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.

    Interestingly, you believe that Jesus in John 8 declared himself to be YAHWEH ALMIGHTY by saying "I Am" (false translation as we will see shortly).  Yet, he hid and ran out after this very declaration???  Trinity could not be anymore blasphemous and preposterous, my dear brother.  Jesus Christ never said "I am".  Here is the context in full:

    John 8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%208&version=NIV)
    1 but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
    2 At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
    3 The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
    4 and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
    5 In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
    6 They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him.  But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
    7 When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."
    8 Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
    9 At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
    10 Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
    11 "No one, sir," she said.

    "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

    Dispute Over Jesus' Testimony

    12 When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."
    13 The Pharisees challenged him, "Here you are, appearing as your own witness; your testimony is not valid."
    14 Jesus answered, "Even if I testify on my own behalf, my testimony is valid, for I know where I came from and where I am going. But you have no idea where I come from or where I am going.
    15 You judge by human standards; I pass judgment on no one.
    16 But if I do judge, my decisions are true, because I am not alone. I stand with the Father, who sent me.
    17 In your own Law it is written that the testimony of two witnesses is true.
    18 I am one who testifies for myself; my other witness is the Father, who sent me."
    19 Then they asked him, "Where is your father?"

    "You do not know me or my Father," Jesus replied. "If you knew me, you would know my Father also."

    20 He spoke these words while teaching in the temple courts near the place where the offerings were put. Yet no one seized him, because his hour had not yet come.

    Dispute Over Who Jesus Is

    21 Once more Jesus said to them, "I am going away, and you will look for me, and you will die in your sin. Where I go, you cannot come."
    22 This made the Jews ask, "Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come'?"
    23 But he continued, "You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world.
    24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins."
    25 "Who are you?" they asked.

    "Just what I have been telling you from the beginning," Jesus replied.

    26 "I have much to say in judgment of you. But he who sent me is trustworthy, and what I have heard from him I tell the world."
    27 They did not understand that he was telling them about his Father.
    28 So Jesus said, "When you have lifted up[a] the Son of Man, then you will know that I am he and that I do nothing on my own but speak just what the Father has taught me.
    29 The one who sent me is with me; he has not left me alone, for I always do what pleases him."
    30 Even as he spoke, many believed in him.

    Dispute Over Whose Children Jesus' Opponents Are

    31 To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, "If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples.
    32 Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
    33 They answered him, "We are Abraham's descendants and have never been slaves of anyone. How can you say that we shall be set free?"
    34 Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, everyone who sins is a slave to sin.
    35 Now a slave has no permanent place in the family, but a son belongs to it forever.
    36 So if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.
    37 I know that you are Abraham's descendants. Yet you are looking for a way to kill me, because you have no room for my word.
    38 I am telling you what I have seen in the Father's presence, and you are doing what you have heard from your father.[b ]"
    39 "Abraham is our father," they answered.

    "If you were Abraham's children," said Jesus, "then you would[c] do what Abraham did.
    40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father."

    "We are not illegitimate children," they protested. "The only Father we have is God himself."

    42 Jesus said to them, "If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). I have not come on my own (again, not on MY OWN); God sent me.

    43 Why is my language not clear to you? (O brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife, why is Jesus Christ's language NOT clear to you my beloved??!!) Because you are unable to hear what I say.

    44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father's desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies.
    45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me!
    46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don't you believe me?
    47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says (THIS IS HOW GOD AND JESUS ARE ONE!  JESUS BELONGS TO GOD LIKE VERY OTHER BELIEVER AND CREATION). The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God."

    Jesus' Claims About Himself

    48 The Jews answered him, "Aren't we right in saying that you are a Samaritan and demon-possessed?"
    49 "I am not possessed by a demon," said Jesus, "but I honor my Father and you dishonor me.
    50 I am not seeking glory for myself; but there is one who seeks it, and he is the judge.
    51 Very truly I tell you, whoever obeys my word will never see death."
    52 At this they exclaimed, "Now we know that you are demon-possessed! Abraham died and so did the prophets, yet you say that whoever obeys your word will never taste death.
    53 Are you greater than our father Abraham? He died, and so did the prophets. Who do you think you are?"
    54 Jesus replied, "If I glorify myself, my glory means nothing. My Father, whom you claim as your God, is the one who glorifies me.
    55 Though you do not know him, I know him. If I said I did not, I would be a liar like you, but I do know him and obey his word.
    56 Your father Abraham rejoiced at the thought of seeing my day; he saw it and was glad."
    57 "You are not yet fifty years old," they said to him, "and you have seen Abraham!" (notice how the English translators put "!" instead of "?")

    58 "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am I WAS (or I have seen Abraham, or I existed before Abraham)!"
    59 At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.



    Jesus directly answered the question!

    Again, the question was:  57 "You are not yet fifty years old," they said to him, "and you have seen Abraham?"

    Jesus directly answered the question.  Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/iam.htm to see three online Greek dictionaries that clearly prove that the Greek word used here also means I WAS and/or I HAVE.  And the context is crystal clear about this.  The Jews said to Christ that you are not even fifty years old and you claim that you have seen Abraham who have existed thousands of years before you??  Jesus replied to this by saying that yes, HE EXISTED EVEN BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS, THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO.



     
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    There are many verses in the Bible which show that Lord Jesus is more than an ordinary man. The  Son of God appeared to his people even in the Old Testament and spoke to them.

    Isaiah 44:6

    Thus says the Lord, the King of Israel
        and his Redeemer, the Lord of hosts:
    "I am the first and I am the last;
        besides me there is no god.

    Isaiah 43:10

    11 I, even I, am the Lord; and beside me there is no saviour.

    We can see that Jesus is also called the King of Israel and the saviour (i.e. Redeemer) in the New Testament.

    1 Peter 1:1

    1 Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ:

    John 1:49

    49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.
     



    Isaiah 44:6 OUT OF CONTEXT:

    When you read Isaiah 44 in full, you'll see that GOD Almighty is speaking with Jacob, whom also GOD Almighty called him Israel.  Isaiah 44:6 is not talking about GOD Almighty and Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  It's talking about GOD Almighty AND ONLY GOD Almighty being:

    1-  King of Israel.
    2-  The redeemer of Israel (Jacob).

    Let us look at the entire context in full:

    Isaiah 44 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2044&version=NIV)

    Israel the Chosen

    1 "But now listen, Jacob, my servant, Israel, whom I have chosen.
    2 This is what the Lord says— he who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will help you: Do not be afraid, Jacob, my servant, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.
    3 For I will pour water on the thirsty land, and streams on the dry ground; I will pour out my Spirit on your offspring, and my blessing on your descendants.
    4 They will spring up like grass in a meadow, like poplar trees by flowing streams.
    5 Some will say, ‘I belong to the Lord'; others will call themselves by the name of Jacob; still others will write on their hand, ‘The Lord's,'     and will take the name Israel.

    The Lord, Not Idols

    6 "This is what the Lord says— Israel's King and Redeemer, the Lord Almighty: I am the first and I am the last; apart from me there is no God.

    So it is very clear that GOD Almighty here is referring to Himself as the King of Israel and its Redeemer.  The verse is not talking about two gods.  It's talking about ONE GOD ALMIGHTY.

    As to Christ being the beginning and end and the savior, I already elaborated on this in great details from the New Testament, in the above posts, by demonstrating that this is referring to Christ ending all evil here on earth when he crushes the anti-Christ.  And everything about Christ from being Miraculous and Powerful and Mighty and the King of the Jews had to be given to him because he had to be like the Jews' Highest Priest, melchizedek, who had no beginning nor end, and no father and no mother, and nor was he born from any mother or father, AND HE WAS ETERNAL, according to the Bible's Old and New Testaments.

    Furthermore, Jesus power and miracles and authority were all 100% given to him by GOD Almighty, his Creator.  There is no dispute about this from the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  So him being Miraculous doesn't prove anything.

    Furthermore, I already also demonstrated from the Bible's Old and New Testaments that "THE FATHER" means the Highest Priest when used for humans, and the GOD Almighty the Al-Knowing when used for GOD Almighty.

    Furthermore, I also already demonstrated above from the Bible also that "SON OF GOD" means Righteous Servant of GOD Almighty who is loved by GOD Almighty.


     
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    Brother, there is no need to apologise at all; I love you as Lord Jesus has taught me and if I have caused you any offence, it was not intentional.

    1 Corinthians 13: 4-6
    4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud. 5 It does not dishonour others, it is not self-seeking, it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. 6 Love does not delight in evil but rejoices with the truth.7 It always protects, always trusts, always hopes, always perseveres.

    I hope this is something we can all agree on :)

    This will be my last reply on this particular post. If God allows, I will start posting new topics (covering other things highlighted in this post, perhaps) in a few days.

    God bless us all.
     
     

    May Allah Almighty bless you for these wonderful verse, dear brother Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .breadoflife.  Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

    [005:082]  Strongest among men in enmity to the believers wilt thou find the Jews and Pagans; and nearest among them in love to the believers wilt thou find those who say, "We are Christians": because amongst these are men devoted to learning and men who have renounced the world, and they are not arrogant.


    Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    May Allah Almighty bless you dear brother.  Ameen.  You're more than welcomed to continue to respond to this thread.  But if you wish to discontinue, then as you wish, dear brother.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on April 03, 2013, 09:47:33 am
    This is a continuation to my detailed must-read rebuttal above....



    Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus?

    Yes it does.  GOD Almighty created the flesh and blood Jesus, and GOD Almighty MADE Jesus from the Word.  I have also covered this topic in one of my debates in great details:

     

    Is Jesus the GOD-Man?


    Dr. Edward Dalcour

    VS


    Osama Abdallah


    Jesus Christ belongs to the World of Command.  He is a BEING.  We belong to the world of Creations.  We are CREATURES.  Our SPIRITS belong to the World of Command.  And so does also the Word, the Holy Spirit, Melchizedek (the Jews' Highest Priest who had no father and no mother, and no beginning and no end, whom Christ had to be created "in his order (https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3309.html?PHPSESSID=6ba0e4dca30b187fd44033f4ceda1659#msg3309)", and had to be Miraculous like Melchizedek in order to be a match to him, and be made "in the order of Melchizedek".  See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 6:20, Hebrews 7:1-20), and perhaps many of the Angels and many of the invisible Beings out there.  Yet, everything is under the Power and Command and Control of Allah Almighyty:

    "In blasphemy indeed are those that say that God is Christ the son of Mary. Say: "Who then hath the least power against God, if His will were to destroy Christ the son of Mary, his mother, and all every - one that is on the earth? For to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between. He createth what He pleaseth. For God hath power over all things."  (The Noble Quran, 5:17)"

    Jesus was declared to be the "first and the last" and the "beginning and the end".  So what is Jesus' first or beginning?  It's when he WAS or WAS MADE according to John 1:1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%201&version=KJV).  Jesus came from the "REALM OF COMMAND" according to the Glorious Quran.  The Bible also agrees with this:

    John 1 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=john%201&version=KJV)
    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God with authority.

    Why did I cross "God" and replace it with "with authority"?  The following gives the clear answer:

     
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    One might ask: Why was "God" crossed out and replaced with "with authority"?

    Answer: Because the same word (THEOS or the compound one HOTHEOS) was also used for satan to describe him the "God of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4:4:

    "The GOD of this age has blinded the minds of unbelievers, so that they cannot see the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.  (From the NIV Bible, 2 Corinthians 4:4)"

    SATAN WAS CALLED GOD in 2 Corinthians 4:4.  Yet, satan, like the idols, fails the challenge of GOD Almighty to prove that they are GOD:
       
    Isaiah 41
    21 Come then, says the Lord, your pleadings! Let the King of Jacob hear your contentions;
    22 let them come forward, these other gods, and tell us the future. So read the past for us, that the study of it may disclose what needs must follow; coming events make known.
    23 Foretell you what is yet to be, we shall know you are gods indeed. Then, if you have the power, grant good or ill fortune to mankind; confer we, and pass judgment on it!
    24 Why, you are all empty air, a nothing that nothing can effect; he courts his own shame, that makes choice of you.

    Satan can not do any of these.  So THEOS ("God", the same Greek word used for The Word in John 1:1 means having rule and authority, and not being actually GOD Almighty Himself.

    The cursed satan obviously was no one's Creator.  So the use of the word "GOD" for him is a mistranslation, because GOD here means one with authority or rule, and not actually Allah Almighty Himself.  The same thing about Jesus Christ, who was created from the Word of Allah Almighty.  Jesus was given a limited authority by Allah Almighty here on earth ONLY (https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm):

    John 5
    25 Verily, verily, I say unto you, The hour is coming, and now is, when the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God: and they that hear shall live.
    26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself;
    27 And hath given him authority to execute judgment also, because he is the Son of man.

    John 17:21-22
    21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
    22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

    Matthew 28:18
    18 Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

    The Bible declares that Jesus is the one who will inherit EARTH after he crushes satan.  This is where he is called the HEIR OF GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  The Bible limits Jesus inheritence to earth only, and also limits Jesus' power and authority to earth only as well.  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm

    This is also where Jesus was called called:

    1-  Mighty God.
    2-  Wonderful Counsler.
    3-  Everlasting Father (Rabbi).
    4-  Prince of Peace.

    This is all discussed in great details at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122.

    All Jewish Rabbis were called "Father".  This is also where Roman Catholics get the "Father" title from.  And Jesus being "Everlasting Father" means he is the highest Jewish Rabbi and Messiah, because he is the Messiah and the King of the Jews.  See the previous posts above for a lot more details.

    Also, Son of GOD in the Bible means a Righteous Chosen Servant of GOD Almighty.  Also, GOD Almighty called "THE FATHER" means He is the Al-Knowing and Al-Mighty GOD Almighty.  Also, all believers are called GOD in the Bibles:

    Psalm 82:6  "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' "

    For ample more proofs, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm.

    And again, please visit the link that I gave above for ample more Biblical verses and proofs and discussions:  https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122.

    Also visit this important discussion about Jesus' Will, and how GOD Almighty makes him live ("I live because of GOD"):  https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1617.msg6417.html#msg6417

    Also, the following are my thorough answers to many of the Questions that were asked regarding trintiy on this board: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1635.msg6491.html#msg6491

    Also on the main website (https://www.answering-christianity.com), you can visit the Answering Trinity (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links) main section, which has tons of articles and refutations to the falsehood of trinity.

    Also visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm.
     
     

    2 The same was in the beginning with God (YAHWEH ALMIGHTY).
    3 All things were made by him (that's YAHWEH ALMIGHTY); and without him was not any thing made that was made.
    4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
    5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.

    6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
    7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
    8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
    9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
    10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
    11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
    12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
    13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
    14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
    15 John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
    16 And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
    17 For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.


    The World of GOD's Command:

    In Islam there are:

    1-  GOD Almighty, the Supreme and Soverign LORD and Creator of Everything.

    2-  Then under GOD Almighty, there is what is known in Islam as
    عالم الأمر or the World of Command.  This is where the Word of GOD Almighty, the Spirit (includes the Holy Spirit), and perhaps many of the special Angels were all WERE MADE IN.  Allah Almighty Made a reference regarding this World in many Noble Verses such as the following:

    ‏2:117
    بديع السماوات والارض واذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون

    [002:117]  To Him is due the primal origin of the heavens and the earth: When He decreeth a matter, He saith to it: "Be," and it is.

    ‏3:47
    قالت رب انى يكون لي ولد ولم يمسسني بشر قال كذلك الله يخلق مايشاء اذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون

    [003:047]  She said: "O my Lord! How shall I have a son when no man hath touched me?" He said: "Even so: God createth what He willeth: When He hath decreed a plan, He but saith to it, 'Be,' and it is!

    ‏3:59
    ان مثل عيسى عند الله كمثل ادم خلقه من تراب ثم قال له كن فيكون

    [003:059]  The similitude of Jesus before God is as that of Adam; He created him from dust, then said to him: "Be". And he was.

    ‏6:73
    وهو الذي خلق السماوات والارض بالحق ويوم يقول كن فيكون قوله الحق وله الملك يوم ينفخ في الصور عالم الغيب والشهادة وهو الحكيم الخبير

    [006:073]  It is He who created the heavens and the earth in true (proportions): the day He saith, "Be," behold! it is. His word is the truth. His will be the dominion the day the trumpet will be blown. He knoweth the unseen as well as that which is open. For He is the Wise, well acquainted (with all things).

    ‏16:40
    انما قولنا لشئ اذا اردناه ان نقول له كن فيكون

    [016:040]  For to anything which We have willed, We but say the word, "Be", and it is.

    ‏19:35
    ماكان لله ان يتخذ من ولد سبحانه اذا قضى امرا فانما يقول له كن فيكون

    [019:035]  It is not befitting to (the majesty of) God that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is.

    "They ask thee concerning the Spirit (of inspiration). Say: 'The Spirit (cometh) by command of my Lord: of knowledge it is only a little that is communicated to you, (O men!)' (The Noble Quran, 17:85)"

    [097:004]  Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by God's Command, on every errand:

    This World we call in Islam "Aalam Al-Amr" (
    عالم الأمر) or the World of the Command of GOD Almighty, where everything in it was Created by a Simple Command from GOD Almighty of BE and THEY WERE.

    The Bible too speaks about Spirits, and interestingly, the Spirit of FEARING GOD will rest upon Jesus, the Servant of GOD Almighty:

    Isaiah 11:1-3
    "1. A shoot will come up from the stump of Jesse; from his roots a Branch will bear fruit.
    2. The Spirit of the LORD will rest on him (Jesus)-- the Spirit of wisdom and of understanding, the Spirit of
    counsel and of power, the Spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD (Jesus fearing his GOD)--
    3. and he will delight in the fear of the LORD. He will not judge by what he sees with his eyes, or
    decide by what he hears with his ears;"

    For ample more details and proofs, please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/holy_spirit.htm


    3-  And there is Alam Al-Khalq (عالم الخلق) or the World of Creation.  This is where the water and dust, and the flesh and blood creations are.  And this is also where the SELF (nafs) and the SPIRIT (rouh), two seperate beings, enter into our fleshes to make us Humans.  This is also where we carry the Attributes of GOD Almighty in Islam, or as the Bible puts it, this is where we have become the Image of GOD Almighty, or were created in the Image of GOD Almighty. 

    I talked about SELF (nafs) and SPIRIT (rouh) in great details in the past on this blog.  For ample more details, please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,650.msg1523.html#msg1523

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/let_us.htm



    And what is Jesus' End or Last?

    According to the Bible, Jesus Christ must inherit the earth from GOD Almighty by crushing all evil on it, forever.  Jesus is the HEIR OF GOD ALMIGHTY only on earth and nothing more.  The Bible makes this abdundantly clear.  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    The Bible also calls all believers as the HEIRS OF GOD ALMIGHTY.  So Jesus' Last or End is when the Lord Jesus Christ defeats the army of the anti-Christ, and establishes the Kingdom of GOD Almighty here on Earth while the earth and the Universe lasts, and before DEATH comes upon all creations:

    [003:185]  Every soul shall have a taste of death: And only on the Day of Judgment shall you be paid your full recompense. Only he who is saved far from the Fire and admitted to the Garden will have attained the object (of Life): For the life of this world is but goods and chattels of deception.

    According to Islam, everything that was ever created and made by Allah Almighty will and must taste death.  They must go through death.  Only Allah Almighty doesn't die and never dies, and will never die.

    I ask Allah Almighty that this helps to clarify the blasphemous trinity confusions.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: Mohammed on January 10, 2014, 11:13:11 am
    If you go to Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Jesus_Christ) you will find they cite 5 (non-Christian) references which supposedly prove that 'Isa was crucified. Someone should refute the claim.
     
     

    I am gonna get vulgar on this , but hope somebody is able to explain the same logic in a better way .

    If there were two persons A and B who faught in an infiniti amount of time ago .

    and there were 140,000 people watching them .

    Person A does a special move in which he head-attacked the person B in his stomach and simultaneously hit the testis with his hand or something .

    The People at that time dint know getting hit in the testis hard enough can cause death ( recent discovery )

    Person B dies .

    The 140,000 people saw that the Person died because "Person A had hit him in the Stomach" and the same message gets passed for a million years

    For, if we ask or do research on "how person B died" , The BEST and AUTHENTIC source of information would be person B itself .


    Coming to Jesus and his crucifixion .

    We should apply the same logic . The Person who knows best about the situation which happened to him would be the person HIMSELF .

    But In the Case of Jesus , Christians claim him as "God" , A million witnesses would still be particle of sand against the words of Jesus for them.

    SO TO EVERYONE , TO PROVE CRUCIFIXION OF JESUS CHRIST YOU NEED TO FIRST ESTABLISH THAT THE WORDS OF JESUS ARE GREATER THAN ALL OTHER PEOPLE . The Number witnesses doesn't matter unless he is an atheist .

    And if you ask any Christian , "Do you believe in Jesus or people more ?" , and he will 100% say "jesus" or he is not a True Christian .

    So yah , it doesn't matter the number witness or people when it comes to words of Jesus to a Christian .

    A Lot of people saw the "plane" hitting the Pentagon, But infact it was cruise missle which hit it and THERE IS AMPLE PROO for that too(on this website),

    So next time any Christian tells you about witnesses, Ask them "who do you believe more in, Jesus or People?"

    "Sometimes the Truth is not what you saw"




     
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: Mohammed on January 11, 2014, 05:00:22 am
    Dear Brother ,

    I do not mean to offend you but I am telling this out of love and care,

    you are indeed a very knowledge person ,

    But I feel that you are not a good "debater" compared to those apologists when it comes to oral debating,

    whenever I come to this website I find so powerfull arguments but they are absent in your debates :( .

    Inshallah I hope you will improve on this.
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 20, 2014, 03:39:17 pm
    Hello my people, peace be unto you .                             
    Sometimes If I see some of you people posts , I will just be laughing and won't want to stop.
    This scriptures is very very clear and straight, I don't know why you people are twisting it and want to turn your brain to another thing. All is Well

    John 1

    1 In the beginning was the Word (Jesus) , and the Word was with God, and the Word was God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . 2 He (Jesus) was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him(Jesus)  all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light(Jesus)  shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

    Here let us understand that , Jesus was with God before anything on earth were created, and the word(Jesus) was God Himself, truly all things were made through word except human,(which means , all things were made trough Jesus the word).  Jesus was with God before the creation of anything on earth.

     6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.
    9 The true light that gives light to everyone (I.e Jesus)was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God...

    God sent fort John to testify concerning Jesus Christ

    v14 The Word (Jesus)  became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
     
    If He didn't became like us to dwell with us like flesh, how can we belief in Him? Imagine He was a spirit, people will even be afraid of Him.
    Just because He wanted to save the world ,He came down in Form of man, yet people like you didn't believe in Him. Yoruba adage says" who so ever want to catch monkey will act like a monkey" which means if Jesus want to show us the way to heaven he must be like us as man.

    v15 John testified concerning him. He cried out, saying, "This is the one I spoke about when I said, 'He who comes after me has surpassed me because he was before me.'"
    John let us know that He(Jesus) was before him, does that mean Jesus has come to earth. And went back before? NO! He simply means , before he was created, Jesus was in Heaven already.

    v18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
     But brothers I will like you to ask for Holy spirit to translate the word of God to you in the right way, flesh cannot understand it because, this word is spirit and life. # shalom 
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 20, 2014, 09:34:53 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    One thing about our trinitarian friend, TheEyeofGod (a blasphemous name against GOD by the way), is his colorful way of posting nonsense and calling it "a response".  As everyone can clearly see above, he hasn't refuted anything here.  Not only that, but he has forced the Bible to read Jesus as the Word, and not a creation from the Word.  I've thoroughly went through this at:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3309.html#msg3309

    There are so many points to mention here, which I don't feel necessary to post.  Just read the link and see for yourselves.  Here are a few points:

    1-  Jesus was made from the Word, and this Word became flesh.

    2-  Jesus had the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.

    3-  Jesus said he doesn't know when the Hour will come, and that only GOD Almighty Alone knows.

    4-  Jesus said why do you call me Good?  No one is Good except GOD Almighty Alone.

    5-  Jesus had no will.

    6-  Jesus was Miraculous because he had to match Melchizedek, who was the Jews highest Priest, who had no father and no mother, and no beginning and no end.

    Did our trinitarian friend here refute any of this??  Absolutely not!  These are the few that I could think of.  Again, please visit the link for detailed verses and proofs.

    And for detailed proofs on Islam being the Original Religion of the Bible, and GOD Almighty's Original Faith to all of mankind even according to the Bible itself, visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/luke6_40.htm

    And last and not least, to see the Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran, please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 21, 2014, 08:17:44 am
    Well said brother, no matter what you call me , I really appreciate it. But I will beg you not be upset.
     

    JESUS HAD THE SPIRIT OF FEARING GOD IN HIM -
    JESUs SAID hE DOESNT KNOW WHEN THE HOUR WILL COME
    If He didn't fear God , who else will He fear ? Satan?
    I said the other time that" He want us to use his lifestyle as Example" if he didn't fear God, how did He expect us to fear God also?
    He said he didn't know the time, because if he had told us the time, some people today will be doing another thing, they won't worship nor fear God again, until the day is near, people will say " let me enjoy myself and I will repent later when the day is about to come.


    JESUS SAID "WHY DO YOU CALL ME GOOD? NO ONE IS GOOD EXCEPT GOD ALMIGHTY ALONE"
    Jesus has brought Himself down to our level ( that was why He became flesh) , that's why He said that. Can I ask you this question? Did you ever read that Jesus committed  any crime, did  bad thing?
     
     JESUS HAD NO WILL
    Meaning of WILL:-  A desire, purpose, or determination. *Jesus DESIRED to come to the world . Rev. 5
    *He came PURPOSEFULLY to die for our sins, for our salvation, and to give us eternal life.
    * He DETERMINED to die for our sins, if He didn't , He wouldn't Have allow them to captured Him. Matt 26:53  Do you think I cannot call on my Father, and he will at once put at my disposal more than twelve legions of angels?    He knew what He came to this world for, and didn't use His power change His plan. So how can you said He has no will?


     Jesus was Miraculous because he had to match
    Melchizedek, who was the Jews highest Priest,
    who had no father and no mother, and no
    beginning and no end.

    It begins with a quick summary of the story in
    Genesis 14: "This Melchizedek was king of Salem
    and priest of God Most High. He met Abraham
    returning from the defeat of the kings and blessed
    him, and Abraham gave him a tenth of
    everything" ( Heb. 7:1-2).
     the unusual name is explained. The Hebrew
    word melek means king, and tsedek means
    righteousness, so his name is explained as
    meaning "king of righteousness." And since
    shalom means peace, he was also the "king of
    peace" (v. 2). These titles are significant because
    Melchizedek prefigures Jesus Christ.
    Then we are told that Melchizedek was "without
    father or mother, without genealogy, without
    beginning of days or end of life, like the Son of
    God he remains a priest forever" (v. 3).

    Melchizedeks name was translated king of
    righteousness (Hebrew 7:2).
    Prophet Isaiah said about Christ, Behold, a King
    will reign in righteousness (Isaiah 32:1).
    Christ is the King of righteousness (Romans 3:24;
    Hebrew 7:26).Melchizedek was called the
    (Genesis 14:18), king of Salem meaning king of
    peace. Christ is the king of peace, For unto us a
    Child is born, unto us a Son is given and His
    name will be Prince of peace. Of the increase of
    His government and peace there will be no end
    (Isaiah 9:6, 7). Peace started by His birth, that is
    sung by the angels (Luke 2:14). He is also the
    giver of peace, Peace I leave with you My peace I
    give to you; not as the world gives do I give to
    you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it
    be afraid (John 14:27; cf. John 16:33).
    All the kings came from Judahs tribe and the
    priests from Levis. However, Melchizedek was
    both a king and a priest, For Melchizedek, king
    of Salem, priest of the Most High God. (Hebrew 7:1). Christ is the only One who came as King and Priest, He shall bear the glory,and He shall sit and rule on His throne, so He shall be a Priest on His throne (Zachariah 6:13). This is why the wisemen offered Him gold and frankincense. Concerning His priesthood, David the Prophet said, The Lord has sworn and will not relent, You are a Priest forever according to the order of Melchizedek (Psalms 110:6). St. Paul indicates, Therefore, if perfection were through the Levitical priesthood what further need was there that another priest should rise according to
    the order of Melchizedek, and not be called
    according to the order of Aaron? (Hebrew 7:11).
    By so much more, Jesus has become a surety of a
    better covenant (Hebrew 7:21, 22). Melchizedek was called to be made like the Son of God (Hebrew 7:3). Christ is the only begotten Son of God: We have a great High Priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God (Hebrew 4:14). Melchizedek was without father, without mother, without genealogy (Hebrew 7:3). Christ was without father, concerning His priesthood, because He came from Judahs tribe and not from Levis For it is evident that our Lord arose from Judah, of which tribe Moses spoke nothing concerning priesthood (Hebrew 7:14). On the
    other hand, Christ, as a son of Man, was without
    father; and as a Son of God is without mother
    (because the Virgin Mary did not give birth to His
    divinity).
    Melchizedek was called to be having neither
    beginning of days nor an end of life (Hebrew 7:3)
    . Christ has no beginning of days or end of life
    because He is the Alpha and the Omega, the
    beginning and the end, eternal and everlasting
    (Revelation 1:8). He ever lives to make
    intercession for them (Hebrew 7:25).
    About Melchizedeks priesthood, St. Paul said, he
    remains a priest continually (Hebrew 7:3).
    Christs priesthood never ends but remains
    forever, But He, because He continues forever,
    had an unchangeable priesthood (Hebrew 1:24).
    Melchizedek offered bread and wine for Abraham
    as a sign of love. It was the only offering in the
    Old Testament, which was not bloody, but from
    bread and wine (Gen 14:18). Christ offered to us
    His body and blood as bread and wine as the
    utmost love, which He gave for us upon the cross
    for our salvation (Matthew 26:26; Mark 14:22;
    Luke 22:19; John 6:51-54; 1 Corinthians 11:24).

    JESUS WAS MADE FROM THE WORD, AND THIS WORD BECAME FLESH.
     
    Even we human being was not made by word , talk less of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God.  Although all the creation were made of word by God, but God had to stress Himself and mould  human. What you don't know is that before anything were created , Jesus was there with God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .
    So He came in form of man
    I. To show us how He want us to live our lives, He received training, be beaten and so on, despite all his Glory he became flesh to show us the way.
    ii. He can in form of flesh for us to believe in Him, imagine He was a spirit, no one can ever believe in Him. Despite all this (by coming in form of man) yet,you people didn't  believe in Him.
    John uses the Greek word logos to describe Jesus
    "in the beginning," or before creation and time
    began. Logos means word, but specifically it
    means the spoken word or a statement. Jesus is
    God's spoken word, according to John.
    John then explains that the Word (Jesus) was
    "with" God and "was" God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). This statement yields
    two important conclusions regarding Jesus and
    the Trinity: Jesus is God and existed from the
    beginning as God, yet Jesus' existence is somehow
    distinct from God the Father. Jesus was "with"
    God and "was" God at the same time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). This is the
    mystery of the Trinity: all three Persons in the
    Godhead are One God and yet all are distinct
    from one another.
    Moving to verse 3, John says that it was the Word
    (Him) that created all things. From this statement,
    we begin to see why Jesus is called the "Word" by
    John. Consider these facts we learn from John's
    Gospel and elsewhere in Scripture:
    First, we know from scripture that God the Father
    is Spirit (John 4:24), meaning He doesn't exist in
    physical form. So, there is no physical substance
    to God the Father. The Creation cannot
    experience the Father as He truly is, since we are
    bound to a physical dimension yet He is not
    physical.
    Secondly, we know that God's Spirit is likewise
    invisible (John 3:6-8). He can only be known by
    observing His work in the Creation.
    On the other hand, Jesus is the member of the
    Godhead responsible for all physical matter. As
    John said, all things were made by and through
    Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Paul says the same thing in Col 1:15-17.
    More over, Paul teaches in Colossians that Jesus is
    the "image of the invisible God." Therefore, He is
    the only Person in the Godhead Who has entered
    into and become a part of the physical creation.
    Jesus can be seen in a physical sense, because He
    is the One Who entered into the Creation and
    become a part of it (i.e., became incarnate).
    Therefore, Jesus is the One within the Trinity Who
    is associated with Creation, both as its source and
    as an ambassador of the Godhead to that
    creation.
    Next, consider how the Creation itself was
    established in Genesis 1. Genesis 1 teaches that
    the world was created by the spoken word of God
    (note the repeating phrase in Genesis 1, "Then
    God said..."). So when God the Father determined
    to created the universe and everything in it, He
    "spoke" it into existence. But as John said in verse
    3, Jesus was the One who made all things,
    therefore we can say that Jesus was God's logos,
    or spoken Word.
     
     
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 21, 2014, 01:32:30 pm
    Quote
    If He didn't fear God , who else will He fear ? Satan?
     

    Man, do you trinitarian infidels hear yourselves, or even understand what you vomit out of your mouths??  Do you not scream from the top of your lungs that Jesus is OUR CREATOR?  So now it's ok for him to fear GOD?  Amazing blasphemy and utter stupidity indeed.

     
    Quote
    Even we human being was not made by word , talk less of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God.
     

    Adam was created from the Word and so was Eve.  Melchizedek's creation according to the Bible is even greater than Jesus', because Melchizedek had no beginning and no end, and no father and no mother.  And the Bible says that Jesus was Miraculous because he had to be a match to Melchizedek

    Also, COUNTLESS BEINGS from the World of the Unseen, or the World of Command (https://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_creator_or_created.htm) as it is called in Islam, are created from the Word and the Spirit.  Our Souls are created from the Spirit.  Jesus is a mighty Being, but he is not the Creator of the Universe.

    Again, visit my above detailed posts for ample details.  You have nothing but blasphemies.  You're gambling with your soul, my dear.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 21, 2014, 05:03:20 pm
    Quote
    If He didn't fear God , who else will He fear ? Satan?
     

    Man, do you trinitarian infidels hear yourselves, or even understand what you vomit out of your mouths??  Do you not scream from the top of your lungs that Jesus is OUR CREATOR?  So now it's ok for him to fear GOD?  Amazing blasphemy and utter stupidity indeed.

     
    Quote
    Even we human being was not made by word , talk less of Jesus Christ the only begotten Son of God.
     

    Adam was created from the Word and so was Eve.  Melchizedek's creation according to the Bible is even greater than Jesus', because Melchizedek had no beginning and no end, and no father and no mother.  And the Bible says that Jesus was Miraculous because he had to be a match to Melchizedek

    Also, COUNTLESS BEINGS from the World of the Unseen, or the World of Command (https://www.answering-christianity.com/quran_creator_or_created.htm) as it is called in Islam, are created from the Word and the Spirit.  Our Souls are created from the Spirit.  Jesus is a mighty Being, but he is not the Creator of the Universe.

    Again, visit my above detailed posts for ample details.  You have nothing but blasphemies.  You're gambling with your soul, my dear.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     
    .                                                                               #laugh# so funny,I thought you created this blog to enlighten ourselves what we don't know, I don't think  you created it  purposely for harassing and abusing people, but if so that's left for you.I can't be discouraged by that, I shall defend Christ throughout my days.                                                                Like I said , He afraid God because He want us to afraid God, Jesus live as an example, He want us to do has He did.     Assuming He doesn't fear God,and say God is His father He(God) can never do anything for Him, if He offend Him(God).   He was telling us that we shouldn't fear God also. Or a child didn't  afraid of hid father?               Philipians 2:5 " In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus".     John 13:15"  I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you".                                                 I John 2:6 "Whoever claims to live in him must live as Jesus did." So Jesus live His life as examples for we christians to follow.                         
                                                                                                     Yes! Jesus was a match to Melchizedek, but there differences.
     *Melchizedek and Jesus were both God's priest,   but Jesus is the Everlasting priest, Hebrew 7:  16 one who has become a priest not on the basis of a regulation as to his ancestry but on the basis of the power of an indestructible life. 17 For it is declared: "You are a priest forever, (I.e Jesus) in the order of Melchizedek." Heb 6v20.             *Melchizedek is like the Son of God ( Heb 7:3 Without father or mother, without genealogy, without beginning of days or end of life, resembling the Son of God   he remains a priest forever. But JESUS is the Son of God.               * Jesus died for the atonement of our sins, while Melchizedek did not.                                                        *Melchizedek is a king of righteousness, peace and High priest, Heb 7:3.       While JESUS was qualified by Isaiah "  For to us a child is born,
    to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders.   And he will be called
    Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
    Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace Isaiah 9:6. And so on.


    Remember God would have asked Jesus to come to the world without any family like Melchizedek, but no one will believe Him when He starts preach  about salvation , and He could haven't been an example for us, we will after all He is a spirit that's why we can't live the way He lives.  That was why He chose to come in for of Man.        Thanks bro, take care. Jesus Love you
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: MuslimBoy on May 25, 2014, 01:49:47 am
    I thought you created this blog to enlighten ourselves what we don't know
     
    :P There is nothing in Christianity that anyone don't know. :P
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 27, 2014, 07:24:13 am
    I thought you created this blog to enlighten ourselves what we don't know
     
    :P There is nothing in Christianity that anyone don't know. :P
     
     
    .                                   What you don't understand  about Christianity are numerous
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: shabeer_hassan on May 27, 2014, 10:21:48 am
    @Christianity are numerous............WHAT WAS THAT?
    Joshua 8:24-26

    When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

     Deuteronomy 2:32-34

    Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

     Deuteronomy 3:3-6

    So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)
       1 Samuel 15:3,8

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)
    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    Also let us look at Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."

    This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
    Matthew 15:1-9
    1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
    2 "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"
    3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
    4 For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'
     Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."
    Exodus 31:14
    14 'Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people.

    Exodus 31:15
    15 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 27, 2014, 03:04:35 pm
    @Christianity are numerous............WHAT WAS THAT?
    Joshua 8:24-26

    When the Israelite army finished chasing and killing all the men of Ai in the open fields, they went back and finished off everyone inside. So the entire population of Ai, including men and women, was wiped out that day12,000 in all. For Joshua kept holding out his spear until everyone who had lived in Ai was completely destroyed. (NLT)

     Deuteronomy 2:32-34

    Then Sihon came out against us, he and all his people, unto battle at Jahaz. And Jehovah our God delivered him up before us; and we smote him, and his sons, and all his people. And we took all his cities at that time, and utterly destroyed every inhabited city, with the women and the little ones; we left none remaining. (ASV)

     Deuteronomy 3:3-6

    So the LORD our God delivered Og also, king of Bashan, with all his people into our hand, and we smote them until no survivor was left. We captured all his cities at that time; there was not a city which we did not take from them: sixty cities, all the region of Argob, the kingdom of Og in Bashan. All these were cities fortified with high walls, gates and bars, besides a great many unwalled towns. We utterly destroyed them, as we did to Sihon king of Heshbon, utterly destroying the men, women and children of every city. (NASB)
       1 Samuel 15:3,8

    Now go, attack the Amalekites and totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.' " He took Agag king of the Amalekites alive, and all his people he totally destroyed with the sword.(NIV)
    Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

    Also let us look at Deuteronomy 17:3-5 "And he should go and worship other gods and bow down to them or to the sun or the moon or all the army of the heavens, .....and you must stone such one with stones and such one must die."

    This verse was sent to me by Yusif 65; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him:  2 Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."
    Matthew 15:1-9
    1 Then some Pharisees and teachers of the law came to Jesus from Jerusalem and asked,
    2 "Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? They don't wash their hands before they eat!"
    3 Jesus replied, "And why do you break the command of God for the sake of your tradition?
    4 For God said, 'Honor your father and mother' and 'Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.'
     Leviticus 20:27 "And as for a man or woman in whom there proves to be a mediumistic spirit or spirit of prediction, they should be put to death without fail.  They should pelt them to death with stones.  Their own blood is upon them."
    Exodus 31:14
    14 'Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it must be put to death; whoever does any work on that day must be cut off from his people.

    Exodus 31:15
    15 For six days, work is to be done, but the seventh day is a Sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD. Whoever does any work on the Sabbath day must be put to death.
     
     
    .                           My brother , before you can quote any verse from Bible, why don't you find out the reasons why the verse was written? At least you should read some chapters/verses before you could quote any verse/chapter so that you could understand the verses you quoted.   
    Title: Re: The Crucifixion of Judas
    Post by: MuslimBoy on May 28, 2014, 05:34:23 am
    ^He was trying to say that
    :P There is nothing in Christianity that anyone don't know. :P
     
     

      

      

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    Title: Can Brother Osama Abdullah refute this please
    Post by: Isa27James on December 09, 2013, 07:42:23 am
    Assalam alykam


    can you please refute this video 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GD4hEk3VYo
    Title: Re: Can Brother Osama Abdullah refute this please
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on December 09, 2013, 10:42:21 pm
    Assalam alykam

    can you please refute this video 

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GD4hEk3VYo
     
     

    Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

    As always, hateful anti-Islamics spewing lies and hate against Islam.  The Lord Jesus Christ is the heir and the ruler and the king of this earth only, according to the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  He is the king of kings of this earth only, dear brother.  This is where satan also, when he tempted him for 40 days and 40 nights (the Bible says GOD can not be tempted), satan offered him the rule and the kingdoms of all of the earth.  Satan did not, and could not, have offered Jesus the rule of the entire Universe.  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    The GOD Almighty of both the Bible and the Holy Quran is the KING OF KINGS of the entire Universe, not just a king of mere earth.  Also remember that Christ had to be powerful and miraculous to be a match to Melchizedek, who was the Jews' highest priest, who had no father and no mother, and no beginning and no end, according to the very Bible itself in both the OT and NT.  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    Trinity is false, and it's a blasphemy that only belongs to the garbage.  The doomed-to-Hell polytheist trinitarian pagans are just too desperate to prove this false garbage.  Notice how they're constantly desperate to prove Jesus to be our Creator.  If he were indeed, then the Bible would've clearly spelled it all out!  But when we read what Jesus spoke, and even what the Bible says about Jesus, we see a Muslim who:

    1-  Bowed his face to Allah Almighty in Worship, like we Muslims do.  Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_hypocrite.htm.

    2-  Fasted and prayed like we Muslims do.  The OT also has plenty of verses and stories of Prophets and Believers bowing down to Allah Almighty in Worship, exactly as we Muslims do.  The false garbage of trinity came and abolished all of this, and made idols out of GOD Almighty whether through graven images, or through portraits of Jesus and GOD Almighty.  Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/que11.htm.

    3-  Spoke many times about how weak he is, and that he has no will, and that he's only doing the WILL OF GOD ALMIGHTY.  He even said so in his famous Prayer in Matthew 6:9-13 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%206&version=KJV):

    Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name.
    Thy kingdom come.
    Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors.
    And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil:
    For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

    Do these words sound like they came from one who Created us, or from a mere Creation?  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_heir_of_god_lie.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_hypocrite.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122

    Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know.  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT.  And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

    1-  Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

    2-  Wali - Guardian.

    In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali.  But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father.  This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery.  No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty!  Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these.  Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter.  Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters??  No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

    [005:018]  (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

    FRIENDS = SONS:

    In fact, we further read the following in the Bibles:

    Isaiah 41:8
    "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7
    Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23
    And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

    So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

    [002:257] Allah is the friend and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend.

    So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.

    Again dear brother, please visit the following links to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    BEGET = CHOSE:

    Regarding the following verse and others like it:

     
    Quote
    King James Bible Psalm 2:7
    I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
     

    Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

    [027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

    ‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

    [003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

    ‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

    [003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

    ‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

    [007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

    ‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

    [022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

    ‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

    [035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

    ‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

    [038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

    ‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

    [039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

    ‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

    Again, please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,868.msg3122.html#msg3122
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

    Again, trinity is a blasphemy that only belongs in the garbage!  Ameen.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Can Brother Osama Abdullah refute this please
    Post by: Isa27James on December 10, 2013, 03:45:45 pm
    What the heck is the book of revelation anyway is it someone on  a acid trip writing a book

    what is the history of this book

    and why do Christians believe in it so much
    Title: Re: Can Brother Osama Abdullah refute this please
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on December 10, 2013, 04:05:41 pm
    What the heck is the book of revelation anyway is it someone on  a acid trip writing a book

    what is the history of this book

    and why do Christians believe in it so much
     
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

    Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm.  I've gone through most of the Bible's books and gospels in the NIV Bible and several other Bibles, and listed what the theologians and historians said about those books.  The book of Revelation is among them.

    The Bible is both corrupt and doubtful.  Even its own theologians admit that it contains ample man-made injections and fabrications.  No serious person could take all of it as a complete and perfect authority from GOD Almighty.  And while you're at it, watch my debate to see what Islam says about the Bible at:  https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links.

    And last and not least for the reader, please visit this link to see the Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran: https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links.

    I hope this helps, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

     

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    Title: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on March 25, 2014, 01:15:14 pm
    Assalamualykum.

     I was wondering, if dajjal is so important than why Allah didn't say anything about him directly or indirectly in the Quran? Please help me with this.
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Black Muslim on March 25, 2014, 02:41:14 pm
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    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Mohammed.Rashid on March 25, 2014, 04:56:20 pm
    See friend Quran is not a story book unlike Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

    I will tell d most important thing for a believer to know about ie., Salah - and some issues related to not mentioned in the Quran

    Adhan - what to say while reciting adhan is not mentioned.
    Wudhu - mentioned in 5:6 though not completely
    How to perform Salah - not mentioned
    No of rakah - not mentioned.

    So for many thing we have to resort to hadith
    As Allah says Quran 47:33 - O you who have believed, obey Allah and obey the Messenger and do not invalidate your deeds.

    &

    Quran 4 : verse 80 - He who obeys the Messenger has obeyed Allah ; but those who turn away - We have not sent you over them as a guardian.

    Allah has given us a good reason to do that as He said in

    Quran 68:4 - And indeed, you are of a great moral character.

    _________________________________________________

    Now tell me what is more important for you to know -
    Issues related to Salah from Quran or Knowing of Dajjal from Quran

    The reason why Quran didn't mentioned about Salah - though 
    offering salah is mentioned several times in Quran
    - but how to offer it in way taught by the prophet is a Sunnah to
    which Allah himself says to follow the prophet as mentioned in 2 verses above.
    If everything would have been mentioned in Quran then he would have said to OBEY the prophet in 47:33.

    Issues related to how prophet taught to pray is a bit controversial inspite of the fact that people know
    he changed his way of praying as time passed on probably due to certain conditions & some due to his age.

    Personally - I dont believe if a person who prays in some different ways TAUGHT IN HADITH ONLY is invalid.

    ALSO
    Quran has to be comprehensive to include all and every detail  and it will make a Big fat book running into volumes.
    Some People today give a lame excuse that they dont have time to read quran and some other shocking reason.

    QURAN IS A MUST READ BOOK - ITS A SIGN FOR MEN OF UNDERSTANDING. SO HOW WILL U KNOW IT UNLESS READ IT
    WITH UNDERSTANDING.

    Only if they would have read the Quran once a book which is not comprehensive and gone through those verses mentioned above. They would have felt a responsibility to read Hadith(which is a bit comprehensive) practice and preach it to others too. As hadith itself says to if u know a bit of knowledge practice and preach it to others .

    Also these Why has no ends. If it wud have mentioned  answers to all ur why.
    Still others would have asked even more y like - Why cant we see God - Why cant we do this, why cant we do that .......

    Also do U know what the christians ask - Why doesnt the bible says anything about dinosaurs!!!

    If you are so curious to know about Dajjal then I will post a  article written by me related to it soon Insha Allah

    Finally anybody wants to make any correction in this post he is free to do that.

    Finally, Allah knows the best
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 25, 2014, 09:52:39 pm
    Assalamualykum.

     I was wondering, if dajjal is so important than why Allah didn't say anything about him directly or indirectly in the Quran? Please help me with this.
     
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Farhan,

    Great question, dear brother.  Like brother Mohammed said, there are things that aren't mentioned in the Holy Quran, but are part of the bigger and more encompassing thing.  Example that the brother gave, from several, is Adhan (the call for Prayer).  It's not mentioned in the Holy Quran, but it is yet mandatory for all Prayers in Islam.

    The issues of Mahdi and anti-Christ are like Adhan to Prayer akhi.  They fall under the return of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him.  And Prophet Isa (Jesus) is mentioned to return in the Holy Quran.  He is now in a state of WAFAAT.  This is the same state that you go in when you sleep.  You would then either wake up to a return back to full life, or go to a state of MAWT (death).  Prophet Isa went through a State of Wafaat when he was raised up to Allah Almighty.  But Allah Almighty also mentioned in the Holy Quran that everyone from humans must taste an earthly death.  And there are Noble Verses that also speak about Prophet Jesus will return and then all of the people of the Book will believe in him the Islamic way.

    I will give all of the Noble Verses later, Insha'Allah.  This is just a quick response.  So yes, the Mahdi and anti-Christ fall under Prophet Isa in general, akhi.  But as always, Allah Almighty could decide to end life at anytime.  So, the return of Christ in the way it's described to us may not necessarily happen if Allah Almighty Chooses otherwise.  To me, this is the difference between having a clear cut Promise in the Holy Quran from outside the Holy Quran.  Unless Allah Almighty specifically mentions it in the Holy Quran as a Divine Promise, then there is always a possibility for it to not happen.  This is where I stand on the Hadiths when compared to the Holy Quran.  So it's possible that the Mahdi will not come.  I personally believe that the Mahdi will come, from the Hadiths.  But it's always possible that he may not come, because he isn't mentioned in the Holy Quran.

    And by the way, we are living in an anti-Christ system today.  And his symbol is the ONE-EYE (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm).  So the Hadiths' End of Times Prophecies are coming True, by Allah Almighty's Will.  Here are some of the powers of the anti-christ that Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, mentioned:

    1-  His evil will enter every house.  We see this clearly through the evil media and lewdness and sexuality and pornography from the internet and TV.

    2-  He will rule the world.

    3-  He is ONE-EYED.

    4-  Among the powers that he will have:

    (a)-  He will command the sky to rain and it will rain.  Read up on Cloud Fertilization (https://www.google.com/search?q=cloud+fertilization) technology today.
    (b)-  He will command the earth to quake and it will quake.  Read up on HAARP technology and Weather Modification for Weapons (https://www.google.com/search?q=HAARP+technology+and+weather+modification+for+weapons) today.
    (c)-  He will corrupt the lands and seas of the earth.
    (d)-  He will cause for so much deaths throughout earth, so much that a person would not know what the reason of his death.  Deaths will be done by the wholesale on earth.

    5-  Also the evil Zionists from the Jews will be supreme on earth, and they will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search1.cgi?search_text=17%3A4-8&yusuf_ali=1&arabic=1&B1=Search).  Many Muslims today believe that we are in the "second" era of the Israelites' evil.  They are reaching Mighty Heights of evil on earth, today.  And we are seeing those rotten filth on their way to ruling the entire earth and dominating all of its financial institutions, wealth and armies, and they're close to establishing their New World Order - One World Government - System.

    This is further supported in this Holy Quran Divine Promise from Allah Almighty:

    [017:104]  Later, to the children of Israel We said, Inhabit the earth till the promise of the afterlife is fulfilled. Then, We will bring you out as a crowd (لفيفا).

    ‏17:104 وقلنا من بعده لبني اسرائيل اسكنوا الارض فاذا جاء وعد الاخرة جئنا بكم لفيفا

    The Jews did inhabit the earth and they are now coming to Palestine from all over the earth in large crowds.  This is the Time of the Second Punishment Prophecy, from the Holy Quran.  But they must first finish their reaching of the "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا of evil on earth. 
    Look at 9/11 todayIt was 100% an Israeli Mossad operation [1 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm)].

    And by the way, "....We sent against you Our servants (عبادا لنا) given to terrible warfare...." in Noble Verse 17:5 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/quran/quran_search1.cgi?search_text=17%3A4-8&yusuf_ali=1&arabic=1&B1=Search), above, is not just limited to the Muslims.  عبادا لنا in the Holy Quran does also include non-Muslims whom Allah Almighty chose or made to do something.  So the destruction of Israel won't necessarily be done by the Muslims only.  I believe that many nations from earth will rise against them and annihilate them.  To further prove that عباد is not just limited to the Muslims, consider the following Noble Verses that use the Noble Word عباد:

    [036:030]  What a pity! These human kinds (العباد)! Their only response to the messengers _ whenever they came to them _ was to mock and make fun of them!

    ‏36:30 ياحسرة على العباد ماياتيهم من رسول الا كانوا به يستهزؤون


    [050:011]  A sustenance for the servants (للعباد), and We give life thereby to a dead land; thus is the rising.

    ‏50:11 رزقا للعباد واحيينا به بلدة ميتا كذلك الخروج


    [017:017]  How many generations have We destroyed after Noah? and enough is thy Lord to note and see the sins of His servants (عباده).

    ‏17:17 وكم اهلكنا من القرون من بعد نوح وكفى بربك بذنوب عباده خبيرا بصيرا


    [002:207]  Among people are also those, who would willingly sell themselves out of the desire to please Allah. And of course, Allah is full of compassion for (His) servants (بالعباد).

    ‏2:207 ومن الناس من يشري نفسه ابتغاء مرضاة الله والله رؤوف بالعباد


    [006:088]  Such is the guidance of Allah. He guides whom He wants among His servants (عباده). Had they, (any of the messengers mentioned above) set up partners (with Allah), all their deeds would have come to nothing.

    ‏6:88 ذلك هدى الله يهدي به من يشاء من عباده ولو اشركوا لحبط عنهم ما كانوا يعملون


    6-  Also, mankind will "alter the creation of Allah Almighty" through "cutting the farm animals' ears".  We've already seen this in what we call today Cloning (https://www.answering-christianity.com/cloning.htm).  And it'll only get worse, and soon man will start cloning mankind.

    All of these are Prophecies from the Hadiths and the Glorious Quran.  I will write a big article on this soon, Insha'Allah.  Please also visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.

    So, I am not sure how the Mahdi and Christ will come.  Since we already know that the anti-Christ system (not a man) is already in place, and is only getting worse and worse, then will Christ and the Mahdi come in form of men or in forms of Systems, perhaps Spiritual Systems.  Only Allah Almighty Knows.  You see, it was a popular belief among Muslims that the anti-Christ will be a flesh and blood man.  But this flesh and blood man couldn't command the earth to quake and for the sky to rain at his will, nor could he make his evil enter every home.  It is rather the evil Zionist machine system that we live in that is doing that.  Again, they will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  This is straight out of the Holy Quran!  So how will the forces of Good be like?  Will they be flesh and blood?  Or will they be Good Systems that will emerge like the evil system that has emerged and has and is reaching "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth?  Only Allah Almighty Knows.

    I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Black Muslim on March 26, 2014, 02:06:27 am
    And keep in mind that Allah is the most wise . There is nothing Allah does without wisdom in it wither we know it or not . If we know , good , if we don't , then that doesn't mean it doesn't exist .
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Dawud on March 26, 2014, 04:41:38 am
    Dajjal is metnioned in the quran indirectly, in this verse

    On the day when some of the signs of your Lord shall come


    6:158...or that some of the Signs of your Lord should come! The day that some of the signs of your Lord do come, no good will it do to a person to believe then, if he believed not before, nor earned good with his faith. Say: "Wait you! We (too) are waiting.")

    ibn qasir tafsir
    http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=942&Itemid=61

    Ibn Jarir recorded that Abu Hurayrah said that the Messenger of Allah said:

    (Three, if they appear, then a soul will not benefit from its faith, if it had not believed before or earned good in its faith: when the sun rises from the west, Ad-Dajjal and the Beast of the earth.)
     
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Mohammed.Rashid on March 26, 2014, 11:08:30 am
    can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 26, 2014, 01:37:42 pm
    can anybody tell me how to post pics in the articles here - jazak Allah khayr
     
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Mohammed,

    Great question.  I will Insha'Allah add this to this blog's main links on the main page.  The following image is an example from brother "Black Muslim"'s example above:

    (https://www.answering-christianity.com/how_post_images_on_blog.png)

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on March 26, 2014, 02:37:25 pm
    Thanks to all of you brothers for your excellent explanation. ;D ;D But still there is a little confusion. If Quran doesn't contain everything, then why Allah said:

     ''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)

     Again Allah said:

     ''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)

     Please help. :-\ :'(
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 26, 2014, 03:35:58 pm
    Thanks to all of you brothers for your excellent explanation. ;D ;D But still there is a little confusion. If Quran doesn't contain everything, then why Allah said:

     ''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)

     Again Allah said:

     ''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)

     Please help. :-\ :'(
     
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Farhan,

    Another great question, dear brother!  Keep it up.  Here is the response:

    1-  As it was explained above, some of the things, - side things, - were left out of the Holy Quran.  For example, the Prophet, peace be upon him, said that the anti-Christ's sign is that he will be one-eyed.  In fact, the Prophet said that from Noah to Jesus, many Prophets have warned their followers against the anti-Christ, and gave Signs about him.  But there is one Sign that was reserved to me (Muhammad), and ONLY ME, and that is that he will be ONE-EYED:

    Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of  which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that  he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

    Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm.

    This Sign wasn't mentioned in the Holy Quran.  But the End of Times Prophecies and the evil Zionists (Israelites) were mentioned, dear brother.  So obviously, this ONE-EYED Sign was left for the details that were to be omitted from the Holy Quran.  The Holy Quran gave highlights and not details, akhi.  This is why the Hadiths are important, and this is also Allah Almighty's Way to tell us that the Hadiths are also to be upheld.

    And as to the two Noble Verses that you mentioned above, here is my reply to them:

    1-  ''We have revealed upon you a book as a clear explanation of everything." ( Surah: An-Nahl, Ayah:69)

    Yes, a clear explanation to everything that has to do with Salvation.  The Holy Quran's Main Concern is about:

    (a)-  Obeying Allah Almighty and Worshiping Him the Right Way.
    (b)-  Doing Good.
    (c)-  Condemning all evil and staying away from it.

    In a nutshell, the Holy Quran is concerned about Salvation, akhi.  And yes, everything you need to know about Salvation is in the Holy Quran. 
    If you want to deep dive into anything, then you use the Hadiths for that, not the Holy Quran.

    Furthermore, Allah Almighty did Command the Prophet to detail the Holy Quran.  From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1105.msg5574.html#msg5574:

     
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    Where is the proof for my statement above?

    I was asked before how can I substantiate the following statement from the Holy Quran:

     
    Quote
    Here is the bottom line:  What agrees with the Holy Quran from the hadiths and also from the Bible and other scriptures is closest to the Truth, but not absolute Truth like the Holy Quran.  And what disagrees with the Holy Quran belongs to the garbage.
     

    Here is the proof from the Holy Quran:

    [016:044] (We sent them) with Clear Signs and Books of dark prophecies; and We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them, and that they may give thought.

    [004:115] After the guidance has been revealed and explained, if anyone parts his way with the messenger and follows a path different from that of the believers, then We will divert him along his (chosen) path. We will hurl him in the hell (in the hereafter). What a despicable destination!

    [006:046] Say, Have you (ever) considered? What if Allah took away your hearing and your sight, and sealed off your heart? Is there a god besides Allah, who could give you back these senses? Observe, how We explain the revelations in detail. Yet, they turn away (disdainfully).

    [006:055] In this manner, We explain Our revelations in detail, so that the ways of the criminals would become (widely known and) well recognized.

    So the real genuine Hadiths that are Quran-Approved are the ones that directly explain and detail the Holy Quran's Commands.  Not every word that came out of the Prophet's mouth is a legitimate Hadith:

    Narrated Abu Musa Al-Ash'ari: "The Prophet used to invoke Allah, saying, "Allahumma ighfirli khati'ati wa jahli wa israfi fi amri, wa ma anta a-'lamu bihi minni. Allahumma ighfirli hazali wa jiddi wa khata'i wa amdi, wa kullu dhalika 'indi"

    WHICH READS IN ENGLISH AS:

    "O Allah! Forgive my mistakes and my ignorance and my exceeding the limit (boundaries) of righteousness in my deeds; and forgive whatever You know better than I. O Allah! Forgive the wrong I have done jokingly or seriously, and forgive my accidental and intentional errors, all that is present in me."  (Sahih Bukhari, Volume 8, Book 75, Number 408 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/cgi-bin/hadiths/hadith_search.cgi?search_text=jokingly+or+seriously&search_type=Exact+String&B1=Search)))

    This is why those who say that the Prophet never spoke out of his own desire, and that every word he spoke was an inspiration are all in error.  The following Noble Verses that they use only refer to the Holy Quran's Revelations:

    [053:002]  You companion has neither erred, nor has he gone astray,
    [053:003]  Nor does he speak out of his own desire.
    [053:004]  It is nothing but pure revelation revealed by God.
    [053:005]  The Lord of the Mighty Powers has taught him (i.e., Angel Gabriel),

    Those who say that Prophet Muhammad was a "Walking Quran (https://www.google.com/search?q=Prophet+Muhammad+was+a+walking+Quran)", and that every single word he spoke was an inspiration are full of rubbish nonsense.  This is further supported in the following Noble Verse:

    [003:159]  It is part of the Mercy of God that thou dost deal gently with them Wert thou severe or harsh-hearted, they would have broken away from about thee: so pass over (Their faults), and ask for (God's) forgiveness for them; and consult them in affairs (of moment). Then, when thou hast Taken a decision put thy trust in God. For God loves those who put their trust (in Him).

    ‏3:159 فبما رحمة من الله لنت لهم ولو كنت فظا غليظ القلب لانفضوا من حولك فاعف عنهم واستغفر لهم وشاورهم في الامر فاذا عزمت فتوكل على الله ان الله يحب المتوكلين

    Why should the Prophet consult anybody when every word he spoke was a Divine Inspiration or Revelation?  This Noble Verse clearly proves that the Prophet was only inspired at certain fixed times, and not all of the time.  So him not speaking out of his own desire refers to the Holy Quran's Divine Revelations. 

    Again, also please visit this very important link: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1105.msg5580.html#msg5580.
     
     

    Also visit: www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm.



    2-  ''We have not left anything unmentioned in it." ( Surah: Al-Anam, Ayah:38)

    Again, this Noble Verse is for Salvation, akhi.  If you wanted the Holy Quran to detail everything in a "deep dive" way, then you'll end up with a book that is probably 10 times bigger than what the current Holy Quran is.  It wouldn't be possible to perfectly preserve the Holy Book then, nor to memorize it.

    I hope this helps, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Md.Mobashir Mallick on March 27, 2014, 02:22:30 pm
     An excellent question & an excellent answer by our Muslim brothers , but one thing i'd like to add to the answer , that everything is mentioned in the Quran , as Allah s.w.t promoses in the ayats of Quran, but these ayats are best explained by none other than our Holy Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W) p.b.u.h , so in order to understand the Quran & follow it perfectly you have to follow the Prophet I.e the Hadiths , you have to follow the interpretation
    For e.x - when I was in school & used to study english literature we had to read story books & in orde to understand the story properly & to know its summary we had a guide book. So the story book wasn't incomplete without the text book & complete by it's self , but in order to understand it better we needed the guide book , in the same way the holy Quran is complete by it's self but we need the Hadiths to understand it fully & properly
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: mclinkin94 on March 27, 2014, 02:31:03 pm
    Hello brother Farhan, you have asked a good question and that is the same question that I asked.

    I am in a strong disagreement with many posters in this forum, but I don't have the tiem to start another debate. I just wanted to post here and remind everyone of ONE Quranic verse (that is all it takes), that removes this entire hadith scene. There are many, but, this one is enough by itself.


    (Quran 45:6) These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement other than Allah and His verses will they believe?

    Let's break this verse down. The beginning of the verse talks about the Quran. THESE are the verses of Allah in which we recite to you in truth. It is speaking of the Quran. You MUST agree with this as any honest person would. A sentence later, Allah tells you in what statement other than THESE verses will YOU believe? That clearly means that the message include ONLY these verses. Nothing else.

    What does that verse tell you??!!!! Does that sound like Allah wants you to follow something else besides these verses (Quran). How could any honest person possibly say so!!! I don't understand!

    Does this verse seriously leave any room for hadith (an alternate revelation)??

    There is no Dajjal. BlackMuslim's double facepalm picture is an embarrassment to Islam and this forum. Please do not engage in actions like this.
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Black Muslim on March 28, 2014, 02:18:57 am
    (http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131217081420/cardfight/images/8/8a/Triple_facepalm.png)

    "I don't want to start another debate" huh ? The only embarrassment is in your inability to understand basic logic of 1-2-3 . Also in your cowardice of not answering whatever kills your claims shoving it aside as if it's nothing and then ranting "The verse is clear ! You're unwilling !" . Yeah yeah , call it emotional rant . As if saying I'm an embarrassment is most logical .

    I put the picture because Farhan keeps asking for things which he could easily find an answer to with a google search or through basic Islamic knowledge yet he doesn't . The point is to learn instead of marching unto slanders which will only cast doubt into his heart .

    The problem is that you took rejecting Sunnah as a doctrine , THEN went on to explain things to match with that doctrine . That's why when we bring a number of signs saying to obey the prophet you go to unbelievable lengths to twist their meaning so it doesn't contradict that doctrine .

    Enough said .
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on March 28, 2014, 01:16:09 pm
    Assalamualykum.


     Thanks to all for your answers. And brother mclinkin, you can't just say there is nothing called Dajjal. ??? ??? As brother Osama mentioned, Dajjal might not be an individual but a system which is operating in our present world.
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: mclinkin94 on March 29, 2014, 12:12:39 pm
    (http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131217081420/cardfight/images/8/8a/Triple_facepalm.png)

    "I don't want to start another debate" huh ? The only embarrassment is in your inability to understand basic logic of 1-2-3 . Also in your cowardice of not answering whatever kills your claims shoving it aside as if it's nothing and then ranting "The verse is clear ! You're unwilling !" . Yeah yeah , call it emotional rant . As if saying I'm an embarrassment is most logical .

    I put the picture because Farhan keeps asking for things which he could easily find an answer to with a google search or through basic Islamic knowledge yet he doesn't . The point is to learn instead of marching unto slanders which will only cast doubt into his heart .

    The problem is that you took rejecting Sunnah as a doctrine , THEN went on to explain things to match with that doctrine . That's why when we bring a number of signs saying to obey the prophet you go to unbelievable lengths to twist their meaning so it doesn't contradict that doctrine .

    Enough said .
     
     

    Your perceptions of me do not fit. We have been discussing this thing for a while and we get nowhere. Sometimes it is best to leave those who are disbelievers in the Quran alone. They will never believe in Allah's word.

     It is made clear that there is no other source of revelation besides the Quran. Allah did not authorize anything besides the Quran and he made it clear that the Quran is fully detailed. He has made it clear that you are not to follow any other statement except THESE verses (Quran).

    Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed? The Word of your Lord is complete in truth and in justice 6:115

    Does that sound like Allah wanted you to use an external source given that the Quran is fully detailed and complete. HOw about these verses:

    This is not fabricated hadith; this (Quran) confirms all previous scriptures, provides the details of everything, and is a guidance and mercy for those who believe 12:111
    We have revealed to you this book to provide explanations for everything, and guidance and mercy and good news for the submitters 16:89


    In spite of the very clear words: fully detailed, details of everything and explanations for everything the corrupt interpreters such as yourself somehow still claim that the Quran does not include all the details pertaining to Islam! Sadly, you claim that the Quran has only mentioned the major outlines of the religion while as the details of everyday rituals are only to be found in the Hadith and Sunna!

    These false claims only go to expose your peoples ignorance of the Quran, and also your kufr. Yes, you are a kaffir.

    Quran 45:6 These are the verses of Allah which We recite to you in truth. Then in what statement other than Allah and His verses will they believe?

    Let's break this verse down. The beginning of the verse talks about the Quran. THESE are the verses of Allah in which we recite to you in truth. It is speaking of the Quran. You MUST agree with this as any honest person would. A sentence later, Allah tells you in what statement other than THESE verses will YOU believe? That clearly means that the message include ONLY these verses. Nothing else.

    What does that verse tell you??!!!! Does that sound like Allah wants you to follow something else besides these verses (Quran). How could any honest person possibly say so!!! I don't understand!

    The verse that come immediately after is:

    (Quran 45:7-8)  Woe to every sinful liar, Who hears the verses of Allah recited to him, then persists arrogantly as if he had not heard them. So give him tidings of a painful punishment. And when he knows anything of Our verses, he takes them in ridicule. Those will have a humiliating punishment.


    You are being tested by Allah as we speak. Are you a sinful liar who hears the clear verses of Allah and then you persist arrogantly as if you had not heard them? Yes, you are. That makes you a disbeliever.
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: mclinkin94 on March 29, 2014, 12:40:48 pm
    Assalamualykum.


     Thanks to all for your answers. And brother mclinkin, you can't just say there is nothing called Dajjal. ??? ??? As brother Osama mentioned, Dajjal might not be an individual but a system which is operating in our present world.
     
     

    The better question to ask is, if the Quran has informed us that it has ALL the details pertaining to Islam and that we are not to believe in any statement pertaining to Islam besides the Quran, why do you believe in the Dajjal? And why do you think that the Dajjal is pertaining to Islam?

    Of course, the Quran informs us that the life of this world is a test and has many delusions and lies. So in that interpretation, there have always been dajjals and there are many of them. But there is no dajjal as the hadith describes.
    Title: Re: WHY ALLAH DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT DAJJAL IN THE QURAN?
    Post by: Black Muslim on March 31, 2014, 06:04:55 am
    Quote
    Sometimes it is best to leave those who are disbelievers in the Quran alone.
     
    It ends here . All this time , I didn't dare call you a disbeliever even though you reject the orders of the prophet because I know calling a Muslim so is not easy and not everyone should do . But now , YOU did it . So I ask Allah that it returns to you and takes you out of Islam .

    Wither you're convinced or not is your own problem . The people of Sunnah and band (Ahl Assunah Wa Al-Jama'a) believe in the noble Quran as their first source of revelation , believing in it , they follow its orders to obey the other kind of revelation to the prophet peace upon him from Allah Almighty . And it harms nobody when anyone refuses this .

      

      

     

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    MAIN BOARD (You must register to post) => GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS => Topic started by: QuranSearchCom on April 14, 2013, 11:29:52 pm

    Title: Islam and Muslims in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)...
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on April 14, 2013, 11:29:52 pm
    See also: Prophet Muhammad thoroughly prophesied in the Bible's Old and New Testaments. (https://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm)  Detailed verses provided.




    As'salamu Alaikum Everyone,

    Let us first look at what Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

    [003:052]  When Jesus found Unbelief on their part He said: "Who will be My helpers to (the work of) God?" Said the disciples: "We are God's helpers: We believe in God, and do thou bear witness that we are Muslims.

    [002:128]  "Our Lord! make of us Muslims, bowing to Thy (Will), and of our progeny a people Muslim, bowing to Thy (will); and show us our place for the celebration of (due) rites; and turn unto us (in Mercy); for Thou art the Oft-Returning, Most Merciful.

    [003:064]  Say: "O People of the Book! come to common terms as between us and you: That we worship none but God; that we associate no partners with him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than God." If then they turn back, say ye: "Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to God's Will).

    [005:111]  "And behold! I inspired the disciples to have faith in Me and Mine Apostle: they said, 'We have faith, and do thou bear witness that we bow to God as Muslims'".

    [016:102]  Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims.

    So according to Islam, Islam is GOD Almighty's Original and Universal Faith that all of His creations must follow.  And all of the Believing creations of GOD Almighty, - at least humans, - are called Muslims, which means Submiters to the Will of GOD Almighty.  Now, the topic about Islam and Muslims being mentioned throughout the Bible's Scriptures, had been discussed in good details before at:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,630.msg1390.html#msg1390
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,80.0.html
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1014.msg3381.html#msg3381
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/luke6_40.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/being_like_the_teacher.pdf

    Regarding this last link (https://www.answering-christianity.com/being_like_the_teacher.pdf), this is an 11-page must read article!  Muslimeen, Silm, Shlam, Shlama (in Aramaic, the "a" at the end is the definite article that is equivalent to the alif and lam "al"), Mashloome, Mushlimana, Mishalmana, Mishlam, Witness in Arabic and Aramaic, and Prostration in Arabic and Aramaic are thoroughly discussed in it.

     
  • Also, the Bible calls the believers "Muslimeen" ( Muslims) according to some Jewish Rabbis:
       
                 
      
    Also, the Hebrew Shalom or Shalam, which means "Peace" in Hebrew, implies "GOD's Peace be upon you" is also derived from the root Word, Islam.  GOD Almighty's Eternal Peace and us submitting to Him and to His Divine Will in Peace, is also what His Divine Religion is.  Islam is the Original Faith.  Hebrews used to pronounce the "s" as "sh".  They also pronounced the "a" as a thick "a".  So Shalom is really Salam, which means "Peace" in Arabic, and implies GOD Almighty's Peace in Islam.

    I have begun researching this in depth, and alhamdulillah (all thanks are due to Allah Almighty), I was able to make some good progress.  I will be updating this section in great details soon, insha'Allah.  The following are good links that I was able to gather:

    (Note: I will be updating the following list in this post for the reader's convenience, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing))

    http://biblehub.com/hebrew/7999.htm
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/7965.html
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/7759.html
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/7999.html
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/3390.html
    http://biblez.com/searchstrongs.php?q=%D7%A9%D7%9C%D7%9D
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/7999.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_7999.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/8003.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_8003.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/8004.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_8004.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/7967.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_7967.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/8001.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_8001.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/8000.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_8000.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/7965.htm
    http://biblesuite.com/hebrew/strongs_7965.htm

    Also, this is another good website for Hebrew Lexicon: http://www.scripture4all.org.



     

    Also Visit:

    Does Muhammad exist in the Bible?


    Anthony Rogers

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

       

    The original believers were called Muslims:

    1- The believers' title was always Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more")    , Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlemanies.  This is also where we get Shalom from.  It is SALAM.  The Jews' deficient tongue pronounces the S as SH and the soft A as O.  This is similar to those who pronounce the W as V in India, and the TH as Z in Europe and elsewhere.

    2- Moses' in-laws from Jethro and others were Salamays and Muslimays (video):

    Also this important video:

    Believers also during Adam, Noah and Abraham's times were also called Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims .  You can think of them as Arabia's Muwahiddeen (monotheists) before Prophet Muhammad became a Prophet.

    3- Allah Almighty called Islam SELM or SILM [1] in the Glorious Quran. Because indeed, the religion before Allah Almighty is Islam, as He said, and before Prophet Muhammad it was called also Selm or silm.

    4- Jesus also in the Bible called the believer's title Mushlem.  The English translators falsely translate it as "perfect".

    Peace be upon all of the Prophets of Allah Almighty.  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/luke6_40.htm
      
    Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

    Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."

      

      

    What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?

    Did you know that according to the Bible's Old and New Testaments, the Lord Jesus Christ never died on the cross? [1]



    And always remember to visit: The Overwhelming Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links) Section.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
  • Title: Re: Islam and Muslims in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)...
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on April 17, 2013, 12:42:39 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum dear Brothers and Sisters in Islam,

    Here are more links for research:

    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/7965.html
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/7759.html
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/7999.html
    http://lexiconcordance.com/hebrew/3390.html

    I will insha'Allah post verses and quotes from Jewish sources regaring Islam and Muslims.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Islam and Muslims in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)...
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 01, 2013, 04:13:06 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    I just added the following link to the main post above:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/being_like_the_teacher.pdf

    This is an 11-page must read article!  Muslimeen, Silm, Shlam, Shlama (in Aramaic, the "a" at the end is the definite article that is equivalent to the alif and lam "al"), Mashloome, Mushlimana, Mishalmana, Mishlam, Witness in Arabic and Aramaic, and Prostration in Arabic and Aramaic are thoroughly discussed in it.

    Regards,
    Osama Abdallah

      

      

     

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    Title: Does the NT refute the Prophethood of Muhammad?
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on June 11, 2014, 09:26:55 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    This is a continuation of the previous discussions, where the Prophethood of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was thoroughly proven in the Bible's Old and New Testaments.  But some Christians use the New Testament verses below to try to disprove the Prophethood of Muhammad.  Before we read them, I would like to ask the reader to visit the following links that thoroughly prove Prophet Muhammad and Islam in the Bibles:

    www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Now to the verses.  Many Christians use the following verses to convince themselves that Prophet Muhammad is not "the Prophet" that the New Testament predicted.  You see, the New Testament made predictions about the still-to-come three persons:

    1-  Elijah.
    2-  The Messiah.
    3-  The Prophet.

    This is a fact and not an opinion that the people stated regarding these men.  This is clearly demonstrated from the NT's passages which were given in the links above.  The Christians claim that
    Jesus is BOTH the Prophet and the Messiah in the New Testament.  And they use the following verses to prove this claims.  But as we will clearly see, their claims are empty. 

    Please visit: What parts of the Bible and the Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth?  And Why? (https://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm) 

    Let us now look at their verses from the Bibles:



    Jesus Christ is a Prophet:

    Matthew 21:11 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21%3A11%2C+Mark+6%3A15%2C+John+9%3A17&version=NIV)
    The crowds answered, This is Jesus, the prophet from Nazareth in Galilee.

    Mark 6:15 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21%3A11%2C+Mark+6%3A15%2C+John+9%3A17&version=NIV)
    Others said, He is Elijah. And still others claimed, He is a prophet, like one of the prophets of long ago.

    John 9:17 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+21%3A11%2C+Mark+6%3A15%2C+John+9%3A17&version=NIV)
    Then they turned again to the blind man, What have you to say about him? It was your eyes he opened. The man replied, He is a prophet.

    No Muslim denies that Prophet Isa (Jesus), peace be upon him, is both the Messiah and a Prophet of GOD Almighty.  But these verses do not refute this:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm:

     
    1-  The expected Christ and the expected Prophet:

    Again, in John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.  In John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.  So the awaited Messiah and the awaited "the Prophet" were clearly TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS, who are strangers to each others, and are not from the same bloodline.

    Let us look at the text of verses of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 in details to see the two different persons to come: the Messiah (Christ) and the Prophet:

      

    John 1:19-21
    John the Baptist Tells People About Jesus
    19 Here is the truth
    John told [testimony John gave; witness of John; 1:6] when the leaders [Jewish leadership; L Jews; C John often uses the term Jews to refer to the religious leaders in opposition to Jesus, rather than to the Jewish people generally] in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites [C the religious authorities; priests oversaw temple worship; Levites were members of the tribe of Levi who assisted them; 1 Chr. 23:2432] to ask him, Who are you?

    20 John spoke freely [confessed] and did not refuse to answer [deny it]. He said, I am not the Christ [Messiah].
    21
    So they asked him, Then who are you? Are you Elijah? [C Elijah, an OT prophet, was expected to come back before the Messiah; 1 Kin. 172 Kin. 2; Mal. 4:56]

    He answered, No, I am not.

    Are you the Prophet? [C the Prophet like Moses predicted in Deut. 18:1519] they asked.
    He answered,
    No.

      
    John 7:40-44
    The People Argue About Jesus
    40 When the people heard Jesus words, some of them said,
    This man really is the Prophet [1:21; C the prophet like Moses of Deut. 18:1518].
    41
    Others said, He is the Christ [Messiah]. Still others said, The Christ [Messiah] will not come from Galilee.

    42 The Scripture says that the
    Christ [Messiah] will come from Davids family [offspring; L seed; 2 Sam. 7:1216; Ps. 89:34; Is. 9:7; 55:3] and from Bethlehem, the town [village] where David lived [Mic. 5:2].
    43 So the people did not agree with each other [L there was a division in the crowd] about Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .
    44 Some of them wanted to arrest [seize] him, but no one was able to touch [L lay a hand on] him.

    Again, here are passages of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
      
        
       Click to expand.

    For a thorough proof that Islam is the Divine Truth, and trinity is a man-made falsehood, please visit:

  • What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?
  • This website's main sections.
  •   

    2-  Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite):

    1. Did you know that the Bible declares in Matthew 24:25-27 that Jesus will return as an Arab?
        
      Matthew 24:25-27
      25 See, I have told you ahead of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
      26 So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the wilderness, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
      27 For as lightning that comes
      from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
        
      The Bible, throughout its books, has thoroughly defined the "East" to be the Arabs: [1] [2] [3].
        
    2. Not only that, but the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls also predicted the coming of Prophet Ahmed from the east.  Ahmed is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.
        
    3. Prophet Muhammad said that Jesus Christ will return from Damascus.
        
    4. So why won't Jesus Christ return as a Jew from Israel?  See the Islamic Prophecies about the ONE-EYED dajjal (anti-Christ).




    Was Jesus THE PROPHET to come?

    Furthermore, some bring the following verses:

    John 6:14 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+6%3A14&version=NIV)
    After the people saw the sign Jesus performed, they began to say, Surely this is the Prophet who is to come into the world.

    Here some of the Jews have mistaken Jesus for being the foretold Prophet in their Scriptures.  As we've clearly seen in John 1:19-21, John 7:40-44 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm) verse in the table above, there three distinct individuals yet to come:

    1-  Elijah.
    2-  The Messiah.
    3-  The Prophet.

    So some people thinking that Jesus is the Prophet isn't sufficient enough.  Otherwise, we'll also have to also take their opinions about Jesus Christ being:

    1-  A fraud.
    2-  A liar.
    3-  A blasphemer.
    4-  A charlatan.

    Which some, if not many, in the crowds also gave throughout the New Testament.  These are also the reasons why they wanted to crucify him.  But GOD Almighty saved him according to both the Glorious Quran and the Bible (https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm).  Yes, according to the Bible as well in both the Old and New Testaments.

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

     
    9- Then, I'd prove to them that Muhammad and the Religion of Islam were foretold in the Old Scriptures.
    10- Important Note:  Islam declares that the Lord Jesus the Messiah (Al-Sayyed Isa Al-Maseeh in Arabic) was neither crucified nor killed.  The points below are to further demonstrate that even the Bible's accounts do not agree that Jesus Christ died.

    Then, I'd prove to them that the crucifixion never happened, and Jesus never died on the cross even according to the Bible Itself, even according to Isaiah 53 itself.  Also, see how Psalm 91 (satan and Jesus had a detailed conversation about this one in the NT), and Psalm 116, 117 and 118 also declare that Christ will never get crucified.

  • Jesus Christ, never got crucified, nor was he ever killed.  The Noble Quran declares this. Also, many passages with ample evidence from the Bible's Old and New Testaments, and also many more outside the Bible, clearly prove that:
      
    1. Jesus never died.
        
    2. He rested for 3 days in the cave, which was his so-called "tomb", which was above the ground and was not a grave, nor a coffin.  It was an open cave, and he rested on the floor in it.  He was healed and massaged with medicine.  And ultimately, he un-wound his winding sheets, and exited the cave in his original physical body alive.  This is how he "ROSE" from the so-called "dead".  He never actually died.  He's always been physically alive and receiving massaging, and medical treatment, during those three days, according to the New Testament's accounts itself.  The problem with the Bible is that it LOOSELY uses words and terms such as God, Son, Rise from the Dead, Death, etc...  The following debate explains all of this in great details from the Bible, and proves that Jesus never died:

    Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
      

    At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
    this debate and destroyed Christianity!
      
    This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
    Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
    the Bible's New Testament
    that Jesus Christ was never
    crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead.  This 3-hour
    debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
      
      
    Here is my shortened version videoDr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones.  But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video.  See also this text-debate between me and a Christian brother on my blog.  You're welcomed to join in.

    According to the NT's accounts themselves (Luke 24:1-8, Mark 15:40-47, Mark 16:1-8, John 19:38-42, John 20:1-29), Jesus Christ was NEVER buried underground.  He was placed in a rich man's tomb (a cave like a bear's or mountain lion's cave) for three days above the ground, laying on the floor there. 
      

    See also this text-debate between me and a Christian brother on my
    blog.  You're welcomed to join in.

      
    He received medicine and massaging from Mary Magdalene and others during this time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).  He then "rose up from the dead" and left the tomb (cave).

    1- Notice in Luke 24:1, the women came to the tomb with medicine and found Jesus gone.  If he was already dead, they would have no reason to bring this to dead Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  But Jesus was alive and was receiving medical treatment.

    2- Also, notice in John 20:15, Mary Magdalene thought Jesus was a gardener, after he healed and rose back up.

    3- And in John 20:17, Jesus was still in pain, he told Mary Magdalene "touch me not!".

    4- And in John 20:19-29, Jesus showed his original body to the disciples, and they checked it.

    Jesus Christ:
      

  • Never actually died. He has always been alive in the tomb receiving medical treatment.
     
  • He was never buried underground, or in a coffin. He was laid on the floor, alive.
  • Dr. Zakir Naik provided many more verses during his 3-hour debate.  Again, the above points were taken from my shortened version video.  And again, see also this text-debate between me and a Christian on my blog.  You're welcomed to join in.
      
      

  • I also added a new video "Rose from the Dead" is an old Semitic idiom even before Christianity (7 minutes long).  I used video clips, proverbs and verses that thoroughly demonstrated how the term was commonly used for people who survived fatal injuries or accidents, or survived very dangerous situations and close calls.  Also, I proved that the Bible also uses this term metaphorically.  Did you know for example that in the following verse, Isaac was said to have risen from the dead:

    Hebrews 11:19, Luke 7:34
     19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death
    .

    Yet, Isaac wasn't physically dead.  Similarly, we also find in all of the world's civilizations, terms such as "A cat has 9 lives" and others.  This also metaphorically refers to the person "coming back to life", or "rising from the dead" many times due to his luck.

    Another brief video that demonstrates from the Bible's Old and New Testaments that Jesus Christ never got crucified.
      
     

    From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm:

      

    The Bible's metaphoric resurrections:

    Jeremiah 8:1
    At that time, saith the Lord, they shall bring out the bones of the kings of Judah, and the bones of his princes, and the bones of the priests, and the bones of the prophets, and the bones of the inhabitants of Jerusalem, out of their graves:

    Ezekiel 37
    12 Therefore prophesy and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, O my people, I will open your graves, and cause you to come up out of your graves, and bring you into the land of Israel.
    13 And ye shall know that I am the Lord, when I have
    opened your graves, O my people, and brought you up out of your graves,

    Matthew 27
    52 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose,
    53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.

  • There is no historical record of any resurrected person recorded in Palestine or anywhere in the world.  People in Palestine were tribal, and everyone knew everyone.  If people resurrected from the dead, then their people and tribes would immediately known about it, and consequently this would've spread all over Palestine and even the Middle East, because this miracle would've been COLOSSAL!  So either the claim was a fabricated lie or it was metaphorical.  Either way it is a lie, because there are no records that exist for it, and it is a source for deception and confusion.
  • Matthew 10:7-8
    7 As you go, announce that the kingdom of heaven will soon be here.
    8 Heal the sick, raise the dead to life, heal people who have leprosy, and force out demons. You received without paying, now give without being paid.

  • This loose text sounds like: Heal the sick, raise the dead, buy some groceries, ....
      
  • This is like a Christian missionary, for example, saying that he preached the gospel to many people this past week, and he raised several people from the dead, and moved mountains.  This statement would obviously be deceptive, because he would not have literally done these things.  But yet, we find this statement about Jesus' disciples raising people from the dead, and Paul having the ability to move mountains [1] (1 Corinthians 13:2).  But again, not a single historical record exists for this.  Making it sound literal is deceptive.
      
      
  • Uprooting a tree:
      
    If the following is not a lie, then what is it?
      
    Luke 17:6
    6 He replied, If you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mulberry tree, Be uprooted and planted in the sea,
    and it will obey you.
      
    It will obey you?!  No man in history, including Jesus himself, was ever able to perform this miracle.
      
    How come none of you can perform a single Miracle?  Yet, Jesus and Paul (below) guaranteed to all believers that they can.  Yet, throughout history, no one could uproot a tree or a mountain.  Are your bible's miracle-stories fables like Cinderella, Snow White and the seven dwarfs, Red Robin and the wolf, and the big bad wolf and the three little piggies?  Can you make a tree be uprooted?
      
      
    Mustard seed faith?
      
    And what is this "
    If you have faith as small as a mustard seed" nonsense?  Even atheists and agnostics have this kind of faith.  Everyone who has doubt has a mustard seed of faith in them.  Even the cursed satan has a mustard seed faith in him.  And if no one could perform these fable-miracles, then basically every single Christian ever existed on earth is a disbeliever, including Jesus, for he could not uproot a tree or a mountain.
      
      
  • Moving a mountain:

    Matthew 17:20
    And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you.
      
    Matthew 21:21
    Jesus answered and said unto them, Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; it shall be done.
      
    Mark 11:23
    For verily I say unto you, That whosoever shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea; and shall not doubt in his heart, but shall believe that those things which he saith shall come to pass; he shall have whatsoever he saith.
      
    1 Corinthians 13:2
    And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.
      
    No man in history, including Jesus himself, - let alone Paul the proven charlatan, - was ever able to move a mountain.  And no surprise here, there is not a single historical record for these verses' claims.
      
      
  • A super high mountain?
      
    Luke 4:5
    And the devil, taking him up into an high mountain, shewed unto him all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
      
    1-  Super high mountains do not exist in the Middle East.
      
    2-  The earth is spherical.  Even the highest mountain on earth couldn't reveal all of the real estate of earth.
      
    3-  Unless this is 100% a metaphorical statement, despite the fact that the text is speaking in the literal sense of Jesus actually physically going up a high mountain and actually seeing all of the kingdoms of the world, then this verse is obviously scientifically false.

    Why is the high mountain mentioned here?  Why is it relevant?
      
      
  • Drinking Poison?
      
    Mark 16:18
    They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

      
    The Bible is filled with emotional and empty metaphors that confuse its believers into thinking that it is real.  No Christian could ever prove this verse's claim to be true.  And this verse is speaking about all believers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  So any ordinary Christian Joe can do this.  Yet, none can.  Are all Christians disbelievers now?
  • Hebrews 11:19, Luke 7:34
    19 Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead, and so in a manner of speaking he did receive Isaac back from death
    (Isaac wasn't physically dead).

      

    Metaphoric graves and death:

    Luke 11:44
    Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as graves which appear not, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.

    Exodus 14:11
    And they said unto Moses, Because there were no graves in Egypt, hast thou taken us away to die in the wilderness? wherefore hast thou dealt thus with us, to carry us forth out of Egypt?

    John 5:28
    Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,

  • Only decayed dead flesh exist in the graves, which will completely turn into dust.  This verse is obviously metaphorical.
  • 11- Then, I'd concentrate on the Oneness of GOD Almighty and stress it out real good to them, because it is the only mean for Salvation -- is to believe in GOD Almighty as the One True Living Undivided GOD and King.





    What about what Stephen said in Acts 7?

    First of all, Stephen is not even a Prophet.  So his writings are not Divine Revelations.  And as we'll clearly see below, he's not even clear on this subject himself.

    Let us look at the entire short chapter of Acts 7 from the Bible's New Testament.  This is one of Paul's letters that he mailed.  Christians like to call them "books":

    Acts 7 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Acts+7&version=NIV)
    Stephens Speech to the Sanhedrin  (Notice how these are NOT EVEN Paul's words)
    1 Then the high priest asked Stephen, Are these charges true?
    2 To this he replied: Brothers and fathers, listen to me! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham while he was still in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Harran.
    3 Leave your country and your people, God said, and go to the land I will show you.[a]
    4 So he left the land of the Chaldeans and settled in Harran. After the death of his father, God sent him to this land where you are now living.
    5 He gave him no inheritance here, not even enough ground to set his foot on. But God promised him that he and his descendants after him would possess the land, even though at that time Abraham had no child.
    6 God spoke to him in this way: For four hundred years your descendants will be strangers in a country not their own, and they will be enslaved and mistreated.
    7 But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves, God said, and afterward they will come out of that country and worship me in this place.[b ]
    8 Then he gave Abraham the covenant of circumcision. And Abraham became the father of Isaac and circumcised him eight days after his birth. Later Isaac became the father of Jacob, and Jacob became the father of the twelve patriarchs.
    9 Because the patriarchs were jealous of Joseph, they sold him as a slave into Egypt. But God was with him
    10 and rescued him from all his troubles. He gave Joseph wisdom and enabled him to gain the goodwill of Pharaoh king of Egypt. So Pharaoh made him ruler over Egypt and all his palace.
    11 Then a famine struck all Egypt and Canaan, bringing great suffering, and our ancestors could not find food.
    12 When Jacob heard that there was grain in Egypt, he sent our forefathers on their first visit.
    13 On their second visit, Joseph told his brothers who he was, and Pharaoh learned about Josephs family.
    14 After this, Joseph sent for his father Jacob and his whole family, seventy-five in all.
    15 Then Jacob went down to Egypt, where he and our ancestors died.
    16 Their bodies were brought back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a certain sum of money.
    17 As the time drew near for God to fulfill his promise to Abraham, the number of our people in Egypt had greatly increased.
    18 Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt.[c]
    19 He dealt treacherously with our people and oppressed our ancestors by forcing them to throw out their newborn babies so that they would die.
    20 At that time Moses was born, and he was no ordinary child.[d] For three months he was cared for by his family.
    21 When he was placed outside, Pharaohs daughter took him and brought him up as her own son.
    22 Moses was educated in all the wisdom of the Egyptians and was powerful in speech and action.
    23 When Moses was forty years old, he decided to visit his own people, the Israelites.
    24 He saw one of them being mistreated by an Egyptian, so he went to his defense and avenged him by killing the Egyptian.
    25 Moses thought that his own people would realize that God was using him to rescue them, but they did not.
    26 The next day Moses came upon two Israelites who were fighting. He tried to reconcile them by saying, Men, you are brothers; why do you want to hurt each other?
    27 But the man who was mistreating the other pushed Moses aside and said, Who made you ruler and judge over us?
    28 Are you thinking of killing me as you killed the Egyptian yesterday?[e]
    29 When Moses heard this, he fled to Midian, where he settled as a foreigner and had two sons.
    30 After forty years had passed, an angel appeared to Moses in the flames of a burning bush in the desert near Mount Sinai.
    31 When he saw this, he was amazed at the sight. As he went over to get a closer look, he heard the Lord say:
    32 I am the God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.[f] Moses trembled with fear and did not dare to look.
    33 Then the Lord said to him, Take off your sandals, for the place where you are standing is holy ground.
    34 I have indeed seen the oppression of my people in Egypt. I have heard their groaning and have come down to set them free. Now come, I will send you back to Egypt.[g]
    35 This is the same Moses they had rejected with the words, Who made you ruler and judge? He was sent to be their ruler and deliverer by God himself, through the angel who appeared to him in the bush.

    36 He led them out of Egypt and performed wonders and signs in Egypt, at the Red Sea and for forty years in the wilderness.
    37 This is the Moses who told the Israelites, God will raise up for you a prophet like me from your own people.[h]
    38 He was in the assembly in the wilderness, with the angel who spoke to him on Mount Sinai, and with our ancestors; and he received living words to pass on to us.
    39 But our ancestors refused to obey him. Instead, they rejected him and in their hearts turned back to Egypt.
    40 They told Aaron, Make us gods who will go before us. As for this fellow Moses who led us out of Egyptwe dont know what has happened to him![i ]
    41 That was the time they made an idol in the form of a calf. They brought sacrifices to it and reveled in what their own hands had made.
    42 But God turned away from them and gave them over to the worship of the sun, moon and stars. This agrees with what is written in the book of the prophets:

    Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
        forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?

    43
    You have taken up the tabernacle of Molek
        and the star of your god Rephan,
        the idols you made to worship.
    Therefore I will send you into exile[j] beyond Babylon.

    44 Our ancestors had the tabernacle of the covenant law with them in the wilderness. It had been made as God directed Moses, according to the pattern he had seen.

    45 After receiving the tabernacle, our ancestors under Joshua brought it with them when they took the land from the nations God drove out before them. It remained in the land until the time of David,
    46 who enjoyed Gods favor and asked that he might provide a dwelling place for the God of Jacob.[k]
    47 But it was Solomon who built a house for him.
    48 However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:

    49
    Heaven is my throne,
        and the earth is my footstool.
    What kind of house will you build for me?
    says the Lord.
        Or where will my resting place be?

    50
    Has not my hand made all these things?[l]

    51 You stiff-necked people! Your hearts and ears are still uncircumcised. You are just like your ancestors: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
    52 Was there ever a prophet your ancestors did not persecute?
    They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous One. And now you have betrayed and murdered him
    53 you who have received the law that was given through angels but have not obeyed it.

    The Stoning of Stephen

    54 When the members of the Sanhedrin heard this, they were furious and gnashed their teeth at him.
    55 But Stephen, full of the Holy Spirit, looked up to heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . 56 Look, he said, I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.
    57 At this they covered their ears and, yelling at the top of their voices, they all rushed at him,
    58 dragged him out of the city and began to stone him. Meanwhile, the witnesses laid their coats at the feet of a young man named Saul.
    59 While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.
    60 Then he fell on his knees and cried out, Lord, do not hold this sin against them. When he had said this, he fell asleep.

    Footnotes:
    a. Acts 7:3 Gen. 12:1
    b. Acts 7:7 Gen. 15:13,14
    c. Acts 7:18 Exodus 1:8
    d. Acts 7:20 Or was fair in the sight of God
    e. Acts 7:28 Exodus 2:14
    f. Acts 7:32 Exodus 3:6
    g. Acts 7:34 Exodus 3:5,7,8,10
    h. Acts 7:37 Deut. 18:15
    i. Acts 7:40 Exodus 32:1
    j. Acts 7:43 Amos 5:25-27 (see Septuagint)
    k. Acts 7:46 Some early manuscripts the house of Jacob
    l. Acts 7:50 Isaiah 66:1,2


    There are a few points to notice here:

    1-  Stephen is not a Prophet.  He is only a believer.

    2-  Stephen speaking about the Lord Jesus Christ doesn't conflict with Islam.  We do also believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.

    3-  Who is the Prophet to come like unto Moses, according to Stephen?

    (a)-  Joshua?
    (b)-  David?
    (c)-  Solomon?
    (d)-  Jesus?

    4-  He did call Jesus "The Righteous One".  So did he mean him?  Did Stephen explicitly say that Jesus is both the Messiah and the Prophet?  He did not.  But even if he did, this still doesn't mean a thing, because Jesus didn't come:

    (a)-  From the lands of Kedar and Teman.  Kedar and Tema were two of Ishmael's sons.

    (b)-  From the "East".  The Bible defines East here to mean Arabia.

    (c)-  From the "Desert".  The Bible also defines "Desert" to be Arabia.

    (d)-  To destroy all idols and demolish them.  Jesus never demolished a single idol, while Islam had WARS against idols and idol worship in Arabia.

    (e)-  The people of Arabia will rejoice from his coming and Divine Message.

    (f)-  To establish the House of GOD Almighty in Arabia, and call it the "Path of Holiness".  Prophet Muhammad did exactly that.

    (g)-  For ample more points and proofs about Prophet Muhammad in the Old Testament and the New Testament, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm


    So whether Stephen meant to say that Jesus is both the Messiah and the Prophet, or not, it doesn't matter, because throughout the Bible, the Prophecy for the Arabian Prophet, - whose Prophetic Name was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, - is far greater than any shallow opinion and corrupt writings (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac6.htm#links) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/authors_gospels.htm)] in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .

    Also visit:  What parts of the Bible and the Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth?  And Why? (https://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm)


    Let us now look at Prophet Muhammad's Prophetic Name in both the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Glorious Quran:

     
    Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:


    (Click to play film)

    Prophet Muhammad's Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed:

    "And when Jesus the Son of Mary said, O children of Israel, verily I am the Apostle of God sent unto you, confirming the law which was delivered before me, and bringing good tidings of an Apostle who shall come after me, and whose name shall be Ahmed. And when he produced unto them evident miracles, they said, this is manifest sorcery.  (The Noble Quran, 61:6)"

    Prophet Jesus here has shed the light on the old Prophecy of the coming Prophet, Ahmed.  So Ahmed was prophesied before Christ and also during Christ's lifetime (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

    This film was also taken from this Youtube Channel.  As the author of the video said, look at the Aramaic alphabets in the Wikipedia link given, below.  See how Hhet and Tav are written.  They look very similar.  See also how the Dalet and Khaf are written, and how they're similar.  Now create your own "AHMAD" and "ETMAK" from these alphabets.  Now, compare the two words, and see how similar they look.  Compare the two words with the DSS by ignoring the vowels and accent ending.  Which word look similar?  Now read the whole chapter of Isaiah 42.  And even if the DSS was not tampered with, was it written wrongly as the letters are very similar?  The error could have gone back even before the DSS was written.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet
    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/28_chart.html

    Manuscript
    http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qum-35.htm
    http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah#42:3

      

    The "Light of the Gentiles" Prophet:

    Also on the title of the Arabian Prophet being the "Light of the Gentiles", we see that this title was given to him numerous times in both the Bible's Scriptures and the Dead Sea Scrolls.  And this shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone, since truly the Gentiles of the Old Scriptures are the Muslims after Islam came to restore GOD Almighty's Original Faith.  So the Light that the Gentiles were going to receive was Islam; GOD Almighty's One and Original and Final and True Faith to all of mankind.

    The following image will shed more Truth on who the real Gentiles are, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  They are all in the Muslim lands today, and they are the Muslims:
      

    (Click to enlarge)

    You can watch my debate for detailed demonstration and proofs:
      

    Does Muhammad exist in the Bible?


    Anthony Rogers

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

      

    Also, Christians in the Glorious Quran: 

    1. The Christians are the least disliked by GOD Almighty from among the disbelievers: Noble Verse 3:55.  Out of all disbelievers, Muslims will find the Christians to be full of love and mercy: 5:82.
        
    2.  فوق in 3:55, below in the article, means to put them above, or to make them better in status.
        
    3. Allah Almighty in Noble Verse 30:1-5 promised to make the Romans be victorious, because they were Christians.  But they still believe in conjecture: 4:157, 53:28, and they are among the misguided and those who went astray 1:7.  They're also crooked in their beliefs: 3:99, 7:45.
        
    4. Many of the Christians doubt trinity; a word that doesn't exist in the Bible!  Those Christians are closest to Islam, as long as they don't speak ill of Islam.  The same with the Jews who don't speak ill of the Prophets that came after such as Jesus and Muhammad: 3:113-114.

      For ample more proofs and Noble Verses, read the article below, and also please visit:

      www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_followers_prophecy.htm
      www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
      www.answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm


    For ample more details and proofs, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    Also visit:  What parts of the Bible and the Hadiths do Muslims believe are closest to the Truth?  And Why? (https://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm)


    And last and not least, for Islam's and the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links), please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links

    I hope this helps, Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

      

     

    Topic 1457 Backup:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog//index.php/topic,1457.msg5549.html#msg5549:

    Answering Christianity Research Center

    MAIN BOARD (You must register to post) => ISLAMIC DISCUSSIONS | GOD | QURAN | QURAN CANON & HISTORY | HADITHS & SUNNA => Quran Scientific Miracles & Islam's Prophecies (in Hadiths and Quran) => Topic started by: QuranSearchCom on January 26, 2014, 08:07:36 pm

    Title: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on January 26, 2014, 08:07:36 pm
    IMPORTANT UPDATE:  New zip file of scanned processed images was posted at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm.

    Other discussions about this Miracle:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1146.msg3885.html#msg3885
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1163.msg4026/topicseen.html#msg4026
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1116.msg3760.html#msg3760
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,951.msg3035.html#msg3035
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1358.msg5169.html#msg5169
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1460.msg5582.html#msg5582
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.msg5964.html#msg5964



    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty alone.  I just wanted to let you all know that I just finished what I call "Phase II" in the project of translating "The Great Miracle" book, which is Mr. Adnan Al Refaei's 653-page book (https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm)] that demonstrated the Number 19 Miracle in the Glorious Quran, using hundreds of amazing examples.

    I've been extremely busy with pushing myself and finishing phase II.  All of the Noble Verses are separated and the images are set for Phase III.  Phase III will be where I will be officially producing scanned images of page printouts of the Noble Verses that are in the book and demonstrate with my own hand writing the accurate counts of every single letter in every Noble Word in every Noble Verse.  Phase II was to separate the Noble Verses and space them out, to allow for me to do a manual count and summation for every single Noble Letter, and Noble Word and Noble Verse.  There were literally thousands of Noble Verses in hundreds of images to work on.  So it was tedious and very time consuming.  But all Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty alone, I was able to do it.

    Very soon Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), you'll start seeing regular website updates of new "Cases" (this is what I will call them), where the Number 19 Miracle will be demonstrated for specific cases and topics, and to show how the Noble Verses that make up the "Case" will all add up accurately and perfectly.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on January 30, 2014, 04:33:17 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

    Just wanted to make sure that you read the post above.  It quickly got burried with a lot of new posts that came after it.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: mclinkin94 on February 08, 2014, 10:44:47 am
    May Allah bless you for your work brother!!

    Your work is extremely powerful and your website is very popular on search engines! You've done great work, may Allah give you the strength to continue this fantastic work!
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 19, 2014, 01:15:00 am
    May Allah bless you for your work brother!!

    Your work is extremely powerful and your website is very popular on search engines! You've done great work, may Allah give you the strength to continue this fantastic work!
     
     

    Thank you very much dear brother Mclinkin94.  May Allah Almighty greatly bless you and your family, and always keep you all in His Right Path of Islam.  Ameen.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 19, 2014, 01:23:30 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

    First of all, all Thanks and Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty alone.  I thought I should give you progress and some samples on how far I am done, and what type of images I've been producing.  As to the book, I am done with processing 1/3 to 1/2 of it.  It's a very time consuming and tedious work as the following images will certainly show:

    The original images from the book:

    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_surah_74_verses_30-37_original.png
    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_basmala_is_quran_key.png
    www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png

    My processed images of the original image above:

    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_surah_74_verses_30-37_page_1.png
    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_surah_74_verses_30-37_page_2.png
    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_surah_74_verses_30-37_page_3.png

    There will be thousands of these PNG files of processed images, Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  And like I said, I am already done with processing 1/3 to 1/2 of all of them, with Allah Almighty's Mercy, Grace and Will.  Now of course, I will put them in HTML files and elaborate on them for the user.  I won't let the images just self-explain themselves.  I will elaborate in text in the HTML files that I will produce, which will explain every Case and Miracle that a group of Noble Verses make up.  There will be 100s of cases made up of thousands of Noble Verses, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on February 19, 2014, 07:02:25 am
    AsalamuAlaikum,

    Jazak Allah Khairan!

    Keep it up!
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 19, 2014, 10:33:35 am
    AsalamuAlaikum,

    Jazak Allah Khairan!

    Keep it up!
     
     

    Wa Alaikum As'salam,

    Thank you dear brother, ThatMuslimGuy.  May Allah Almighty bless you, akhi.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: ali achinxo on February 19, 2014, 01:16:48 pm
    Asalamu Alaykum

    Thanks akhi for your work. Just wanted to ask are these the miracles where the Numerological (abjad) calculations are used to find the value of the letter?
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 19, 2014, 02:47:38 pm
    Asalamu Alaykum

    Thanks akhi for your work. Just wanted to ask are these the miracles where the Numerological (abjad) calculations are used to find the value of the letter?
     
     

    Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother,

    This one here is a new one that is derived entirely from the Glorious Quran.  Brother Adnan Al Refaei took the Arabic alphabets, and sorted them by their occurences in the Holy Quran in a descending order (from the highest to the lowest), and he gave them their numerical values based on this.  So the Numerical Table that he put together came entirely from the Glorious Quran.  So the alif letter, for example, was assigned the numerical value 1, because it has the highest occurences in the Holy Quran.

    The abjad (gammatrical) table that you refer to is a non-Arabic one, and it is not based on the Holy Quran.  He didn't use it, and he said that he has no regard for it, because it is not from the Holy Quran.  And to his suprise, he discovered that the Noble Verses and Statements in the Holy Quran that are balanced with each others in meanings and correlations, they all also have a total numerical value that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder.  He found this consistency by the thousands of Noble Verses throughout the Holy Quran, and he put them in his book.  The links above that I gave demonstrate the Noble Verses that speak about the #19 Miracle, and they of course also have the total numerical value that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainer, because they are what he calls a COMPLETE CASE (a set of Noble Verses that when put together, and are all a complete case in meanings and correlation, then their numerical value also
    MUST AND WILL be a multiple of number 19 without any remainder).

    Not only that, but the example that I gave above also shows that the value of the Noble Verses also matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's (the key to the Holy Quran) number of letters and their total numerical values: 19 X 115 = 2185.

    Another awesome example that he gave was Prophet Noah's CASE (complete Noble Verses).  Not only they're made up of 950 Noble letters, and Allah Almighty Said that Noah lived 950 years among his people, but the total numerical value of the Noble Verses is also a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder. 

    Man, this is truly a discovered Law and Miracle in the Holy Quran!  It is no joke.


    Jews and Christians:

    You know, GOD Almighty spoke in the Bible's Old Testament about the Prophet of Arabia will be given THE BOOK!  This "THE BOOK" is none other than the Holy Quran that you so viciously attack.  For ample Biblical verses, please visit this section and also watch my detailed debate about Prophet Muhammad in the Bible at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 19, 2014, 11:53:58 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

    I have updated the Main Table image above, and added the English numbers next to their Arabic ones.  This will allow for the non-Arabic readers to still be able to follow along with the examples that I posted above by:

    1-  Seeing the numerical values that I give to each letter.
    2-  Comparing how the letter looks in both the example and the main table, and to see its numerical value in the main table.

    The Main Table image is: www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png.  The examples that I gave are in the post above.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 24, 2014, 11:47:10 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

    I have added some very important images and elaborations to the image: www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png.  This will Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing) make it abundantly clear about how when the Alif Vowel is considered an actual letter with a numerical value, and not just a vowel without any numerical value.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 06, 2014, 02:53:45 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

    I have uploaded a new zip file that contains the scanned processed images up to page 155.  The book is 653 pages.  There are 150 scanned images in the zip file.  However, looking at the volume of images in the directory, I think I am between 1/3 to 1/2 way done.  Anyway, here is the zip file:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/scans_up_to_page_155.zip

    This is all of course in Arabic.  My numbers are all in English.  Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), once I upload all of the scanned images of all of the processed Noble Verses from the book, then I'll write an equivalent to a translation for the entire book all in English, and I will explain all of the cases in great details all in English, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 09, 2014, 03:37:15 am
    Really amazing stuff, i have analysed those 150 photos. some are really great there, but i dont understand many of them, i need explanation.

    this for example is very easy to understand and logical
    (http://oi58.tinypic.com/ic048m.jpg)

    in those two verses Moses and 70 people are at appointment with God, totally 71 people

    and we see 71 words describing that situation, beautiful, just beautiful programming of the text.

    but i dont understand this for example
    (http://oi62.tinypic.com/2yobl9k.jpg)

    وَقَالَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا لِلَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّبِعُوا سَبِيلَنَا وَلْنَحْمِلْ خَطَايَاكُمْ وَمَا هُمْ بِحَامِلِينَ مِنْ خَطَايَاهُمْ مِنْ شَيْءٍ ۖ إِنَّهُمْ لَكَاذِبُونَِ

    Waqala allatheena kafaroo lillatheena amanoo ittabiAAoo sabeelana walnahmil khatayakum wama hum bihamileena min khatayahum min shayin innahum lakathiboona    

    what is special with counting to the middle?
    can you explain?
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 09, 2014, 04:37:31 pm
    Salam Alaikom

    i hope you can answer me this two questions concerning chapter Nuh, and 950 letters in it.

    (http://oi62.tinypic.com/5o847.jpg)

    i think that it would be totally amazing if there is 950 letters in chapter Nuh, while chapter itself says that Nuh lived 950 years, that is really mindblowing stuff, nummerical programming of the text on high level.
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 10, 2014, 12:37:22 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Dawud,

    To answer you question in the image that you posted "Why was this letter not counted?", it's because the HAMZA is a vowel in this Noble Word.  It is not a letter that is sitting on a KURSI (base) or is attached to an ALIF as in the red-circled one that I colored in the very image that you posted next to it.  In the red example, the ALIF here is a long one, as in Adam in Arabic.  As you know, in Arabic, there are long Alifs and short ones.  Both count as one.

    Even in the English word Adam, we clearly see in the pronunciation that the first "a" is a long one, while the second "a" between the "d" and "m" is a short one.  English doesn't recognize in its writing the long and short a's.  But Arabic and other languages do. 

    I am adding all of the rules that I am discovering from brother Adnan to his table at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png.  I am still building this.  It's a mess, but you'll be able to read through it, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 10, 2014, 02:57:45 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Dawud,

    To answer you question in the image that you posted "Why was this letter not counted?", it's because the HAMZA is a vowel in this Noble Word.  It is not a letter that is sitting on a KURSI (base) or is attached to an ALIF as in the red-circled one that I colored in the very image that you posted next to it.  In the red example, the ALIF here is a long one, as in Adam in Arabic.  As you know, in Arabic, there are long Alifs and short ones.  Both count as one.

    Even in the English word Adam, we clearly see in the pronunciation that the first "a" is a long one, while the second "a" between the "d" and "m" is a short one.  English doesn't recognize in its writing the long and short a's.  But Arabic and other languages do. 

    I am adding all of the rules that I am discovering from brother Adnan to his table at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png.  I am still building this.  It's a mess, but you'll be able to read through it, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     

    thanks for the answers, those findings are amazing, i look forward to see explanation for those examples. With these stuff we actually prove scientifically divnity of Quran.

    i have another question, as i can see those findings are made in uthmanic quran, writing style during prophet muhammed, while many qurans are written with standard arabic style, with extra Elifs

    standard arabic
    مَالِكِ
    4 letters here

    uthmanic style
    مَـٰلِكِ
    3 letters here

    When was quran written with standard arabic?
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 10, 2014, 11:21:26 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Dawud,

    To answer you question in the image that you posted "Why was this letter not counted?", it's because the HAMZA is a vowel in this Noble Word.  It is not a letter that is sitting on a KURSI (base) or is attached to an ALIF as in the red-circled one that I colored in the very image that you posted next to it.  In the red example, the ALIF here is a long one, as in Adam in Arabic.  As you know, in Arabic, there are long Alifs and short ones.  Both count as one.

    Even in the English word Adam, we clearly see in the pronunciation that the first "a" is a long one, while the second "a" between the "d" and "m" is a short one.  English doesn't recognize in its writing the long and short a's.  But Arabic and other languages do. 

    I am adding all of the rules that I am discovering from brother Adnan to his table at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png.  I am still building this.  It's a mess, but you'll be able to read through it, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     

    thanks for the answers, those findings are amazing, i look forward to see explanation for those examples. With these stuff we actually prove scientifically divnity of Quran.

    i have another question, as i can see those findings are made in uthmanic quran, writing style during prophet muhammed, while many qurans are written with standard arabic style, with extra Elifs

    standard arabic
    مَالِكِ
    4 letters here

    uthmanic style
    مَـٰلِكِ
    3 letters here

    When was quran written with standard arabic?
     
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Dawud,

    Everything that is not from the Uthmanic Quran belongs to the garbage, or be burnt as Caliph Uthman did burn all of the false qurans.  And by the way, Caliph Uthman's Quran Scholars Committee didn't write the Holy Quran.  The Holy Quran was already FULLY written and compiled during Prophet Muhammad's time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).  This can be very very clearly seen in the very complex and consistent and Numerically Miraculous text of the Holy Quran.  Angel Gabriel wrote the Holy Quran with Prophet Muhammad!  This is even mentioned in the very Holy Quran Itself:

    [020:114]  High above all is God, the King, the Truth! Be not in haste with the Quran before its revelation to thee is completed, but say, "O my Lord! advance me in knowledge."

    ‏20:114 فتعالى الله الملك الحق ولاتعجل بالقران من قبل ان يقضى اليك وحيه وقل رب زدني علما

    [075:016]  Move not thy tongue (i.e., do not O Muhammad recite It before you master Its recitation that is taught to you by Gabriel) concerning the (Quran) to make haste therewith.


    ‏75:16 لاتحرك به لسانك لتعجل به

    Angel Gabriel taught Prophet Muhammad the Holy Quran in GREAT DETAILS, and Angel Gabriel COMPILED the Holy Quran with Prophet Muhammad and ordered it.  And Angel Gabriel wrote the Holy Quran with Prophet Muhammad.  They wrote It with complete accuracy to the very vowel even.  Why you may ask?  Because the Holy Quran that we have is a copy from the Preserved Tablet in Heaven:

    [085:022]  (Inscribed) in a Tablet Preserved!

    ‏85:22 في لوح محفوظ


    Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

    Caliph Uthman's Quran Scholars Committee duplicated the Holy Quran into several copies.  And Allah Almighty Made sure that the Letters and Vowels of the Holy Quran be perfectly preserved in their very complex form.  The Almighty Promised and Took it upon Himself to make sure that the Holy Quran is PERFECTLY PRESERVED:

    [075:017] 
    Surely, upon US rests its collection and its recital.

    ‏75:17 ان علينا جمعه وقرانه


    They didn't originate the Holy Quran's writings.  Our history is filled with conspiracies against Islam and the Quran and the Prophet and his Wives and Companions.  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 11, 2014, 04:21:56 am
    i think that nummerical miracles in the quran are more powerful than scientific verses in the quran since verses are interpretated while nummerical miracles is empirical counting, that is not interpretation but actul facts wich everybody can count and test and verify.

    i will definitly used those examples in dawah inshallah.

     
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    And Angel Gabriel wrote the Holy Quran with Prophet Muhammad.
     

    maybe angel gabriel but not Muhammed, muhammed was illitarate he could not write his own name.
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 11, 2014, 10:38:14 am
    Quote
    maybe angel gabriel but not Muhammed, muhammed was illitarate he could not write his own name.
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Dawud,

    I don't believe that Prophet Muhammad was illiterate either.  This again goes back to our history having false information and conspiracies (https://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm).  I believe the Prophet was literate, at least after the Holy Quran began to be revealed to him.  Ummi does also mean BEING COMPREHENSIVE or GRAND, and not just illiterate.  The Holy Quran was called UMM AL KITAB (the GRAND BOOK; the ULTIMATE BOOK).  Ummi is derived from Umm.  And Umm also means mother.

    I don't believe the Prophet didn't know how to read and write when the Holy Quran began to be revealed to him.  I believe he knew well how to read and write, or at least he was taught so by Angel Gabriel when he started receiving the Holy Quran's Revelations, and learning how to document Its very Complex Text.

    It takes far more than an illiterate person to truly Master the Holy Quran in Text and Recitation, and to perfectly preserve It.

    Take care akhi,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 11, 2014, 01:17:39 pm
    Quote
    maybe angel gabriel but not Muhammed, muhammed was illitarate he could not write his own name.
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother Dawud,

    I don't believe that Prophet Muhammad was illiterate either.  This again goes back to our history having false information and conspiracies (https://www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm).  I believe the Prophet was literate, at least after the Holy Quran began to be revealed to him.  Ummi does also mean BEING COMPREHENSIVE or GRAND, and not just illiterate.  The Holy Quran was called UMM AL KITAB (the GRAND BOOK; the ULTIMATE BOOK).  Ummi is derived from Umm.  And Umm also means mother.

    I don't believe the Prophet didn't know how to read and write when the Holy Quran began to be revealed to him.  I believe he knew well how to read and write, or at least he was taught so by Angel Gabriel when he started receiving the Holy Quran's Revelations, and learning how to document Its very Complex Text.

    It takes far more than an illiterate person to truly Master the Holy Quran in Text and Recitation, and to perfectly preserve It.

    Take care akhi,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     



    عن زيد بن ثابت قال: كنت أكتب الوحي لرسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم، وكان إذا نزل عليه أخذته برحاء شديدة، وعرق عرقا شديدا مثل الجمان، ثم سري عنه ، فكنت أدخل عليه بقطعة الكتف أو كسرة، فأكتب وهو يملي علي، فما أفرغ حتى تكاد رجلي تنكسر من ثقل القرآن، وحتى أقول: لا أمشي على رجلي أبدا، فإذا فرغت قال: اقرأه ، فأقرؤه، فإن كان فيه سقط أقامه، ثم أخرج به إلى الناس

    Zaid bin Thabit, one of the chief scribes relates: "I used to write down the revelation for the Holy Prophet, may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him. When the revelation came to him he felt intense heat and drops of perspiration used to roll down his body like pearls. When this state was over I used to fetch a shoulder bone or a piece of something else. He used to go on dictating and I used to write it down. When I finished writing the sheer weight of transcription gave me the feeling that my leg would break and I would not be able to walk anymore. Anyhow when I finished writing, he would say, 'Read!' and I would read it back to him. If there was an omission or error he used to correct it and then let it be brought before the people."[4]

    [4] Mu'jam Al-Tabarani Al-Awst, Hadith 1913. Dar al-Haramain, Cairo, 1415 AH
    Authenticated by Al-Haithmi in Majma Al-Zawaid 8/257, Hadith 13938


    if prophet knew how to read he would read it by himself not to ask his scribers to read for him. by the way quran is more miracolous if prophet could not read nor write

    brother when can we expect first explanations in english about those pohots you posted in zip.
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 11, 2014, 01:37:20 pm
    Quote
    brother when can we expect first explanations in english about those pohots you posted in zip.
     

    Luckily walhamdulillah (all thanks to Allah Almighty), I just finished my work project (I am a senior IT consultant).  This was a 9-month project.  Hopefully, it'll be another few weeks till I get assigned to a new project.  I am sitting at home.  And I am focusing all of my energy and mind into finishing the rest of the 1/2 or 2/3 of the images.  Once I get all of them finished and scanned, then I'll start on the English article (it'll be as big as a book), Insha'Allah.

    All I can say is that I am currently working hard on it :).  May Allah Almighty give me the power to finish it in a timely manner.

    Take care akhi,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 11, 2014, 05:31:44 pm
    Quote
    Luckily walhamdulillah (all thanks to Allah Almighty), I just finished my work project (I am a senior IT consultant).  This was a 9-month project.  Hopefully, it'll be another few weeks till I get assigned to a new project.  I am sitting at home.  And I am focusing all of my energy and mind into finishing the rest of the 1/2 or 2/3 of the images.  Once I get all of them finished and scanned, then I'll start on the English article (it'll be as big as a book), Insha'Allah.

    All I can say is that I am currently working hard on it :).  May Allah Almighty give me the power to finish it in a timely manner.
     

    may Allah give you paradise for that

    dont forget you can earn Allah's mercy and paradise only by doing this , beacuse i will definitly use that material in my dawah, and dont forget that good deeds copies from other to you. so whoever post one of your translated numerical miracles and present them to others that person will get good deed and that good deed will copy to you automatically on your account without reducing anything from that person. so imagine someone use your material and give dawah with it, good deeds copy to you while you maybe sleep and dream, good deeds copies to you from other people. same it is with evil deeds.
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 12, 2014, 11:17:57 am
    Thank you, dear brother Dawud.  May Allah Almighty bless you and your family, akhi.  I will Insha'Allah keep everyone posted on the progress.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 17, 2014, 06:41:50 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

    I have just updated the Main Table at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png.  Man, the more I learn about the Holy Quran's Text, the more and more stunning It becomes to me!  Look at the LONG ALIFS in the table, and the delicate positionings of the HAMZAs, and how the Hamza's value would change depending on Its position.

    A new batch of scanned images is coming up, Insha'Allah.  I did emphasize in red those different positions in the Noble Verses that they occur in in the new upcoming batch, and in also the previous one.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 18, 2014, 02:08:12 am
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

    I have uploaded a new zip file and posted details on the progress at:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Breakthrough in finishing phase 2 in translating "The Great Miracle" book
    Post by: Dawud on March 19, 2014, 06:29:38 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters in Islam,

    I have uploaded a new zip file and posted details on the progress at:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
     
     

    i hope we will get good explanations for those photos from you in coming weeks.
    Title: The Great Miracle of Number 19 is thoroughly demonstrated...
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on March 28, 2014, 02:58:31 am
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    I have updated the https://www.answering-christianity.com/100_percent_guarantee_that_quran_is_divine.htm article with the following important points:

     

      

    Disclaimer:  This article is not associated with the liar Rashad Khalifa, whose work has been proven to be erroneous, and his numbers don't add up, and his omission of two Quran-Verses is blasphemous.  The Miracles below are 100% confirmed, and are based on 100% of the Glorious Quran.

      
      

    The Great Miracle of Number 19 is thoroughly demonstrated:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

    [074:030]  Over it are Nineteen عليها تسعة عشر.
      
    [074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have
    fixed their number only وماجعلنا عدتهم الا  as (1) a trial for Unbelievers,- (2) in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, (3) and the Believers may increase in Faith,- (4) and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, (5) and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.
      
    [074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,
    [074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,
    [074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-
    [074:035] This is but one of the
    might ones (i.e., miracles)
    انها لاحدى الكبر.
    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-
    [074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-

    It is not only one of the Greatest Miracles, but it is also for those who want to press forward and advance Our Muslim Ummah should take a hard look at these Noble Verses.  And yes, prophet Nuh's (Noah) Surah in the Glorious Quran, and its STUNNING Miracle in Text and Number, makes it indeed the cornerstone [1] of this Great Miracle.  Allah Almighty also make his bloodline be the bloodline of prophets and kings.  Notice also:

    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-

    If the number 19 Miracle is trivial or irrelevant, or simply doesn't exist, then Allah Almighty would not have said it is a warning to mankind

    The scanned images that demonstrate the STUNNING Numerical Miracles of these Noble Verses, based on the newly discovered Numerical Law from Surat Nuh in the Glorious Quran, and 1000s others are listed below.
      

      

    19 X 115 Basmala Miracle:

    All Praise and Thanks and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone.  First of all, Allah Almighty said in the Holy Quran that the Number 19 Miracle is "One of the Mighty Ones" in Noble Verses 74:30-37.  Click this sub-section in this article for the text and details about the Noble Verses.  In the scanned images below, you will not only see that Noble Verses 74:30-37 are in perfect match with the Number 19 Miracle (2185 is their total numerical value and it is equal to 19 X 115) [1], but they're also in perfect match with the Glorious Quran's "Key Noble Verse", the Basmala, in both its total Numerical value, 115, and total number of Letters, which are 19 Letters.  See the scanned images, again, with 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article, listed below:

      
    The following images contain my calculations, which thoroughly verify the claim about Noble Verses
    74:30-37.  Their total numerical value is exactly 2185, which is equal to 19 X 115:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0132.jpg
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0133.jpg
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0134.jpg

  • Sections:
    -  More elaboration and proofs in the next section.
    -  Also, more images for other examples below.
      
  • The Quranic Law, which is thoroughly defined in the Glorious Quran, that differentiates between a "written letter" (also known as a "drawn letter") and a letter that is only a vowel, and defines the numerical value (see table) of the written letter, this Quranic Law is thoroughly laid out in Noble Chapter 71.  The Chapter is called Surat Nuh.  Nuh is Prophet Noah, peace be upon him.  Allah Almighty used this Noble Surah to determine what is a drawn letter and what is a vowel in all Noble Verses throughout the Glorious Quran.  Only the written letters have numerical values.  Vowels don't have numerical values.  See the following images.

      

    950 Years 950 Letters:

    Also, Allah Almighty Said in Noble Verse 29:14 that Prophet Nuh (Noah) lived for 950 years among his people.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah, Nuh (Noah, which is Surah 71), is exactly written in 950 Letters!  Once we counted the drawn letters, we found them to be exactly 950 letters.  You can see this in the scanned images that I produced with my own hand-written verification for each Noble Letter:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0053.jpg
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0054.jpg
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0055.jpg
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0056.jpg
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    In the above images, you'll see some of the ALIF letter's combinations circled in red:

    (see table)
    ALIF letter combinations

    Also visit:  Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]

      

    The following examples are stunningly amazing:

  • Prophet Nuh's story with his people in 24 Noble Verses, which are 11:25-49.  These Noble Verses are in Surat Hud, which is Chapter 11 in the Holy Quran.  Except for one verse inside them that speaks directly to Prophet Muhammad, all other verses speak about Noah and his people.  What is STUNNINGLY MIRACULOUS about these Noble Verses is that the first set from Noble Verses 11:25 to 34, they have the total numerical value of 4,177.  Then Noble Verse 11:35, which is about Prophet Muhammad, has the total numerical value of 327.  Then Noble Verses 11:36-49 have the total numerical value of 6,159.  Therefore, 4177 + 6159 = 10,336, which is equal to 19 X 544.  In other words, the Noble Verses that only speak about Prophet Noah and his people have a total numerical value that is divisible by 19 without any remainder:
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  • Furthermore on Noble Verse 11:35, it starts with: "Or do they say, "Has he forged it"?" ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    When we take all of the Noble Verses (10:38, 11:13, 11:35, 32:3, 46:8) throughout the Glorious Quran that start with this exact phrase
    ام يقولون افتراه, we also find that their total numerical value is divisible by 19 without any remainder.  2470 = 19 X 130.  The following images give all of the details.  You can also see my hand-count in these images:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0277.jpg  (start from last verse in this image, the one that has the count of 478)

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    Click to enlarge:

      
    Verification from my website, www.QuranSearch.com.  Search for text:
    ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    Here is the link for the
    search result page.
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    19 X 19:

  • The Nooraniyyah Letters, or the Noorani Letters of the Holy Quran.  These are the opening Letters of several of the Noble Surahs (Chapters) that have hidden Divine meanings in them.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty Alone!  Now adding all of them together, using the main table's values, gave us a total that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder.  Not only that, but their total number is 361, which is equal to 19 X 19:
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    Does the Quran say the earth is sitting on an Angel-Whale?  Showing the difference between نون and ن.  The story of the nun (noon) whale and Prophet Jonah in the Quran.
      

  • Adding all of the numerical values of the Prophets' and Messengers' names that were mentioned in the Holy Quran also all add up to a number that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder:
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  • Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]
  •   
    Taking this standard for determining which is an actual written/drawn letter and which is only a vowel from all of the Glorious Quran's characters, and applying it to the entire Quran, we found literally THOUSANDS OF STUNNING EXAMPLES AND PATTERNS [1] and Miracles.  And building a numerical table that gives numerical values to the Drawn Letters from most occurring to the least (value 1 given to the most occurring drawn letter, value 2 given to the second most occurring one, and so on....), and applying these numerical values to calculate the numerical value of the Glorious Quran's Drawn Letters and Words, we found thousands of stunning numerical results [1].  And the Number 19 Miracle and the BASMALA and Noble Verses 74:30-37 give you an amazing demonstration of this Divine Miracle [1] [2] [3].

    The following points will clearly explain and demonstrate this Divine Miracle:

      
    1-  Allah Almighty has designed the Holy Quran's Text to be written in a certain complex form, and with great consistency throughout the Holy Quran's 114 Chapters, which are made of 6236 Noble Verses.  The following table shows each Noble Quran Letter's numerical value:

    www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png

    Also, the following zip file contains thousands of the examples, from the thousands others that I have not yet been able to get to due to my busy schedule:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

      

    1-  Prophet Noah is the Miracle's Cornerstone:

    Prophet Noah (Nuh), peace be upon him, is the cornerstone of this number 19 Miracle.  It's based on him and his Holy Surah (chapter), Surat Nuh, in the Glorious Quran.  Read the detailed section about his 950 years that he lived, and his Surah written in exactly 950 letters in this article.

      

    2-  Bloodline of Prophets and Kings:

    The bloodline of Noah is the bloodline of Prophets and Kings:

    [007:069]  "Do ye wonder that there hath come to you a message from your Lord through a man of your own people, to warn you? call in remembrance that He made you inheritors after the people of Noah, and gave you a stature tall among the nations. Call in remembrance the benefits (ye have received) from God: that so ye may prosper."

    The bloodline of Noah, peace be upon him, was a blood line of Prophets and the chosen people of GOD Almighty.  And Allah Almighty made the Jews kings over people in status and closeness to Allah Almighty:

    [005:020]  Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples.

    For more details, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2575.msg12214.html#msg12214
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2575.msg12187.html#msg12187
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3101.msg15425.html#msg15425
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3266.msg16071.html#msg16071

    Prophet Noah, peace be upon him, is the cornerstone of this Noble Miracle.  Not the dajjal (liar) Rashad Khalifa [1] [2 backup][3].  Read detailed article below.

      

    3-  Also Covered:

    Also, "Fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers" وماجعلنا عدتهم الا فتنة للذين كفروا. and "What symbol doth God intend by this?" ماذا اراد الله بهذا مثلا are about the disbelievers, not the genuine believers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  I used other examples [5] [6] from the Glorious Quran to prove this.

    This Miracle is not based on the deceiver, Rashad Khalifa [3].  The STUNNING Numerical Miracles, below, are all based on the entire Glorious Quran, and on Prophet Noah being its cornerstone.

      

    4-  The Arab infidels can't deny it:

    Also, Usama Dakdok, voluntarily on his own, approached me and challenged me regarding the 950 Letters and Years Miracle, below.  Since he is fluent in Arabic, and even preaches his Bible also in Arabic, I repeatedly challenged him to show me from my uploaded images where there are errors in the counts.  He continued to be deceptive and ignore the Truth: [image1] [image2] [image3] [image4].  May all liars be doomed to Hell, because they purposefully lie and deceive the masses.  Ameen.

    Also, a detailed QA session [2].  This is not a deviant pro Rashad Khalifa website!  The Miracle is based on 100% of the Glorious Quran, and the article below is based on the work of brother, who is also a Civil Engineer, Adnan Al Refaei المهندس عدنان الرفاعي .  Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated below, in this article.

      

      

    Number of Years = Number of Letters:

    There is nothing random about the Glorious Quran's Words and their Letters.  As it is thoroughly demonstrated in the scanned images, when we for example see that Noble Surah (Chapter) Nuh (Noah) is written in exactly 950 Noble Letters [1], and Allah Almighty Said that Prophet Nuh lived among his people for 950 years in the same Noble Surah, then there is nothing random about this one.

    Not only that, but there are many other Numerical patterns discovered in the Glorious Quran that are linked to the number of years.  For example, Allah Almighty's two Divine Promises to the people of Israel's destruction were both combined written in 75 Words, and each Promise was written in 75 letters.  And the two sets of Noble Verses for the two Promises are after each others in the same Noble Surah 17:4-8.  So the first set of Noble Verses that speak about the first Promise, which already took place, were written in 75 Letters, and the second set of Noble Verses that speak about the future destruction were written also in 75 Letters:

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    Brother Adnan raised the following questions:

  • Could these Noble Verses be referring to the second destruction of Israel in 75 years after its establishment?
  • And if so, then would they be 75 years after 1948 or 1967?
  • Only Allah Almighty Alone Knows.  We are currently living some of ISLAM'S STUNNING PROPHECIES about Israel, the zionist machine, and their evil that is being spread throughout earth as exactly prophesied in the Glorious Quran:

    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/666.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/walid_shoebat_islam_satan_rebuttal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

    See also Daniel Prophecies about Israel and its map [2].  Daniel 11:45: "(the evil one) will establish his settlement between Mount Zion (Jerusalem) and the Mediterranean sea.  Then he will be destroyed, and no one will be able to save him."

    See also Isaiah's prophecy about the Jews will worship the pornographic goddess Asherah during the end of times.

      That is precisely Israel today!

      

    Similarly, when we look into the number 19 Miracle, which Allah Almighty called it "One of the  Mighty Ones" in Noble Verses 74:30-37, and we find out that It is indeed a MIGHTY MIRACLE, then there is nothing random about it either.  What brother Adnan Al Refaei المهندس عدنان الرفاعي did was he took the Arabic drawn alphabets, that are not vowels, and calculated how many times each letter occurred in the Glorious Quran, since the Glorious Quran's Letters are Miraculous, and there is nothing random about them as we've seen in the few examples above, and also in many more like them [1].  See images below.  Brother Adnan then built a numerical table where the highest occurring letter would have the value 1, and the second highest would carry the value 2, and so on.  He then started calculating the numerical values of the Noble Letters in the Glorious Quran and came up with these mighty discoveries.  Again, the table's link is:

    www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png

    This table in the link has more elaboration in it than the one brother, who also used to be an Engineer, Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي gave in his book on page 140, which is page 136 in the PDF file (If you see gibberish, then install these required fonts & instructionMy Sony Vaio laptop didn't require them.  My other older computers did.  The fonts on my Sony Vaio also seem a bit better than these ones.  So please only install them if you see gibberish).

    And again, the following zip file contains thousands of the examples, from the thousands others that I have not yet been able to get to due to my busy schedule:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

      

      

    The Number 19 Miracle:

    This Noble Miracle is not about bringing random numerical combinations' values and show that they're equal to other certain combinations.  Some tried to belittle this Noble Divine Miracle by bringing random combinations and said that they matched certain phrases in the Glorious Quran.  For example:

    "America is Great" "Allah is Great" Therefore, America is Divine?
    "Satan is evil" "Jesus is evil" Therefore, Jesus is evil?
    "Satan is good" "Muhammad is good" Therefore, satan is good?
    "Jesus" "Satanic" Therefore, Jesus is satanic?
    "Abraham" "GOD is One" Therefore, Abraham is GOD?
    "Prophets" "Prostitutes" Therefore, all Prophets were prostitutes?
    "Mary" "Liar" Therefore, Mary was a liar?
    "Moses" "Satanist" Therefore, Moses was a satanist?
    "GOD is Love" "Satan loves you" Therefore, GOD is satan?
    "GOD is Light" "Satan's darkness" Therefore, satan and GOD are both the same Light?
  • These are just hypothetical examples.  The values may not match.  But you get the point.  You could come up with any phrase that numerically has the same value as another phrase and claim that they have the same meaning.
      
  • But this is not how the Miracle works!  The way it works, with already 1,000s of confirmed examples [2 (fonts)], is as follows:

    The Noble Verses and Statements (Parts of Noble Verses that are specific to a specific point.  Some Noble Verses speak about multiple things), in the Holy Quran, that are correlating to each others, and are ones that collectively make up an entire case, - a full picture, - will have a total numerical value that is divisible by the number 19 without any remainder.  Thousands of examples [1] [2] already demonstrated this.  And Noble Verses 74:30-37, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, and in them Allah Almighty Said about this Noble Miracle that it is "One of the Greatest Ones" (74:35), are thoroughly demonstrated in the following images and tables.

    Again, in the following scanned images, you will not only see that Noble Verses 74:30-37 are in perfect match with the Number 19 Miracle (2185 is their total numerical value and it is equal to 19 X 115) [1], but they're also in perfect match with the Glorious Quran's "Key Noble Verse", the Basmala, in both its total Numerical value, 115, and total number of Letters, which are 19 Letters:

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  • More images for other examples below.
      
  • Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]
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    In the following Noble Verses 74:30-37, notice the following important points:

    1. Allah Almighty mentioned, in Noble Verses 74:30-37, that He based the Glorious Quran on the Number 19 Miracle for the following reasons:
        
      (a)-  As a trial to the disbelievers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
      (b)-  To help strengthen the Believers' faith more.
      (c)-  To assure the disbelievers that Islam is Divine.
      (d)-  Because it is one of the Greatest Signs and Miracles!
      (e)-  It is a warning to mankind, and especially for those who want to press forward and advance.
        

    2. And once again, GOD Almighty made the number 19 be the Noble Quran's Main Numerical Miracle.  He called it: "One of the Greatest Ones" in Chapter 74:35.

      

    Let's all read Noble Verses 74:30-37, and look at its scanned images:

    Read the Noble Verses for yourself to clearly see the points that I mentioned above:

    [074:030]  Over it are Nineteen عليها تسعة عشر.
      
    [074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have
    fixed their number only وماجعلنا عدتهم الا  as (1) a trial for Unbelievers,- (2) in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, (3) and the Believers may increase in Faith,- (4) and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, (5) and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.
      
    [074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,
    [074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,
    [074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-
    [074:035] This is but one of the
    might ones (i.e., miracles)
    انها لاحدى الكبر.
    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-
    [074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-

      

    The scanned images  are below the following table.  Let us see the Noble Verses in English and Arabic:

    Noble Verse(s) 74:30-74:37
    Yusuf Ali:

    [074:030] Over it are Nineteen  عليها تسعة عشر.

    [074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; AND WE HAVE FIXED THEIR NUMBER ONLY وماجعلنا عدتهم الا as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this ?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.

    [074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,

    [074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,

    [074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-

    [074:035] This is but one of the MIGHTY (portents) MIGHTY ONES (Miracles) انها لاحدى الكبر.

    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-

    [074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-

    Arabic (from right to left):

    Original Quran-Arabic:








    Limited Arabic for internet browsers:

    74:30
     عليها تسعة عشر

    74:31 وماجعلنا اصحاب النار الا ملائكة وماجعلنا عدتهم الا فتنة للذين كفروا ليستيقن الذين اوتوا الكتاب ويزداد الذين امنوا ايمانا ولايرتاب الذين اوتوا الكتاب والمؤمنون وليقول الذين في قلوبهم مرض والكافرون ماذا اراد الله بهذا مثلا كذلك يضل الله من يشاء ويهدي من يشاء ومايعلم جنود ربك الا هو وماهي الا ذكرى للبشر

    74:32 كلا والقمر

    74:33 والليل اذ ادبر

    74:34 والصبح اذا اسفر

    74:35 انها لاحدى الكبر

    74:36 نذيرا للبشر

    74:37 لمن شاء منكم ان يتقدم او يتاخر

      

    2-  The following examples are stunningly amazing:

  • The NOORANIYYAH Letters, or the Noorani Letters of the Holy Quran.  These are the opening Letters of several of the Noble Surahs (Chapters) that have hidden Divine meanings in them.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty Alone!  Now adding all of them together, using the main table's values, gave us a total that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder.  Not only that, but their total number is 361, which is equal to 19 X 19:
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    Does the Quran say the earth is sitting on an Angel-Whale?  Showing the difference between نون and ن.  The story of the nun (noon) whale and Prophet Jonah in the Quran.
      

  • Adding all of the numerical values of the Prophets' and Messengers' names that were mentioned in the Holy Quran also all add up to a number that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder:
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  • Prophet Nuh's story with his people in 24 Noble Verses, which are 11:25-49.  These Noble Verses are in Surat Hud, which is Chapter 11 in the Holy Quran.  Except for one verse inside them that speaks directly to Prophet Muhammad, all other verses speak about Noah and his people.  What is STUNNINGLY MIRACULOUS about these Noble Verses is that the first set from Noble Verses 11:25 to 34, they have the total numerical value of 4,177.  Then Noble Verse 11:35, which is about Prophet Muhammad, has the total numerical value of 327.  Then Noble Verses 11:36-49 have the total numerical value of 6,159.  Therefore, 4177 + 6159 = 10,336, which is equal to 19 X 544.  In other words, the Noble Verses that only speak about Prophet Noah and his people have a total numerical value that is divisible by 19 without any remainder:
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  • Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]
      
  • Furthermore on Noble Verse 11:35, it starts with: "Or do they say, "Has he forged it"?" ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    When we take all of the Noble Verses (10:38, 11:13, 11:35, 32:3, 46:8) throughout the Glorious Quran that start with this exact phrase
    ام يقولون افتراه, we also find that their total numerical value is divisible by 19 without any remainder.  2470 = 19 X 130.  The following images give all of the details.  You can also see my hand-count in these images:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0277.jpg  (start from last verse in this image, the one that has the count of 478)

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    Click to enlarge:

      
    Verification from my website, www.QuranSearch.com.  Search for text:
    ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    Here is the link for the
    search result page.
  •   
    There are many other examples that Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي gave in his book (Again, if you see gibberish, then install these required fonts & instructionMy Sony Vaio laptop didn't require them.  My other older computers did.  The fonts on my Sony Vaio also seem a bit better than these ones.  So please only install them if you see gibberish).

    Furthermore, the total numerical value of Noble Verses 74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115): 19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task:

    The following links are the original images from the PDF book of Noble Verses 74:30-37 and the Basmala.  Also, the link to the PDF book is in the following as well:

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    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_basmala_is_quran_key.png
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

    The following images contain my calculations, which thoroughly verify the claim about Noble Verses 74:30-37.  Their total numerical value is exactly 2185, which is equal to 19 X 115:

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    Again, the Holy Quran's Law that Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي discovered is as follows:

    (a)-  The Noble Verses and Statements (Parts of Noble Verses that are specific to a specific point.  Some Noble Verses speak about multiple things) of the Holy Quran that are correlating to each others, and are ones that collectively make up an entire case, - a full picture, - will have a total numerical value that is divisible by the number 19 without any remainder.

    (b)-  You can also watch The Great Miracle, Part 2, Episode 10, by the Engineer Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي.  Translated to English by Osama Abdallah (me).

    Episodes of Program in Video: [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]...
    Episodes of Program in Audio: [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]...

    Allah Almighty Said that the Number 19 Sign is "One of the Greatest Miracles" (74:35) in the Noble Quran. This Miracle is thoroughly examined throughout this TV Program.

    You can download this video, and all of the videos that are available on my website at: www.answering-christianity.com/free_downloads.htm.

      

    3-  Again, to clearly and thoroughly see the Number 19 Divine Miracle of the Holy Quran, you can see the 100s of images that I scanned and processed from Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي book, which is 653 pages long at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

    I only processed 1/3 of the book so far.  But the examples that I provided give thorough demonstration and ample examples that demonstrate this Great Divine Miracle from the Glorious Quran.

      

    4-  Furthermore, Allah Almighty Promised and took it upon Himself to Perfectly Preserve the Holy Quran in both:

    (a)-  Text documentation and compilation.
    (b)-  Reading and Noble Words and Letters pronunciations.

    This is because the Holy Quran that we have here on earth is a copy of the One that is in the "Preserved Divine Tablet".  To see the ample Noble Verses that clearly prove this, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

      

    The following is from: www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

    Also visit these posts with very important images and points:

      
    1-  Thorough studies on the Quran's Compilation by the "Islamic Awareness" website:

  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/
  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/
  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/
  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/
  •   
    2-  The Sana Manuscripts lie:

  • Islamic Awareness' research.
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/mosque_of_sanaa.htm  (A very good response by brother Karim)
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1542.msg6030.html#msg6030  Sana is 677.4 miles away from Mecca!
  •   
    3-  The Divine Miracle of the Quran's Text and Compilation:

  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.msg5825.html#msg5825
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.msg5856.html#msg5856
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.0.html
  • Dr. Munir Munshey's [2] Quran Translation document.
  • 100% guarantee that the Quran is from GOD Almighty.
  • The Overwhelming Scientific Miracles of the Glorious Quran.  Here is one little sample from just the Numerical Miracles alone:
      
      
  • The Divine Promise and Miracle of the Glorious Quran's Preservation in Text and Pronunciation:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran regarding preserving the Holy Quran's Text and Pronunciation the following:

    Noble Verse(s) 15:9
    Yusuf Ali:

    [015:009]  We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

    Arabic (from right to left):

    Original Quran-Arabic:

    Limited Arabic for internet browsers:

    15:9 انا نحن نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون

      

    Noble Verse(s) 41:42
    Yusuf Ali:

    [041:042]  No falsehood can approach it (the Quran) from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.

    Arabic (from right to left):

    41:42 لاياتيه الباطل من بين يديه ولامن خلفه تنزيل من حكيم حميد

      

    Noble Verse(s) 75:16-75:19
    Sher Ali:

    [075:016]  Move not thy tongue, O Prophet, with the revelation of the Qur'an that thou mayest hasten to preserve it.

    [075:017]  Surely, upon US rests its collection and its recital.

    [075:018]  So when WE recite it, then follow thou its recital.

    [075:019]  Then upon US rests the expounding thereof.

    Arabic (from right to left):




    75:16 لاتحرك به لسانك لتعجل به

    75:17 ان علينا جمعه وقرانه

    75:18 فاذا قراناه فاتبع قرانه

    75:19 ثم ان علينا بيانه

    The Noble Verses above give Divine Promise from Allah Almighty:

    1-  To send down the Holy Quran to mankind.

    2-  To protect the Holy Quran from all corruption.

    3-  To preserve the way the Holy Quran's recitation.

         (i)-  Prophet Muhammad was trained by Angel Gabriel on how to recite the Holy Quran.

         (ii)- The Prophet was further instructed to not be careless with his tongue when he recites that Holy Quran.

         (iii)- The Prophet was also instructed to not be haste when it comes to reading the Holy Quran.  He should read it with extreme care.

    Important Note:  The Sunni Muslims, who make up more than 90% of all Muslims, today have perfected the recitation of the Holy Quran.  We have yearly tournaments with big prizes on who memorizes the Holy Quran the best, not just in Holy Words, but also in the pronunciation of the Holy Words.

    4-  To make the Holy Quran clear and an official Book for all Muslims.  Noble Verse 75:19 "ثم ان علينا بيانه" literally translates as "It is Upon Us to manifest it, make it clear, make it known.

          (i)-  The Arabic Word بيانه is derived from بيان , which literally means:

               1.  statement
               2.  declaration
               3.  proclamation
               4.  report
               5.  representation
               6.  notice
               7.  notification
               8.  list
               9.  pronouncement
               10.  list
               11.  bulletin
               12.  handout
               13.  program

    When a government official, such as the president or any senior person makes an official statement, he sends out a بيان bayan.  Clearly, this Divine Promise by Allah Almighty had come true.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Him, Alone!  The Holy Quran today is indeed perfectly preserved in both text and pronunciation No religious scripture on the face of this earth has this.  For ample more proofs, please see this discussion on this website's blog: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1116.msg3760.html#msg3760.

    Furthermore, the actual text of the Glorious Quran is a Miracle by Itself.  The variations in the spelling of certain Words, and the fact that their Numerical Values match, and their total is a multiple of the #19 without remainders, testifies to the Glorious Quran's Great #19 Miracle, which Allah Almighty called it: "One of the Greatest Ones (Miracles)" (74:35).

      

    5-  Also, when Allah Almighty set the number 19 as a Law for the Universe and the Holy Quran, then this is something that humans should thoroughly investigate here on earth and in space:

  • Spherical Geometry, the number 19 Miracle, the Inner-Nature of the Planets' System, and the Universe's function.  The Glorious Quran Says that Number 19 is لاحدى الكبر "One of the Great Ones (i.e., Miracles)".

  •   

    6-  And once again, here are other STUNNING Miracles:

    Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]

    Here are some of my favorite Stunning Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran that are listed in the main sections, below:

    1-  The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

      

    2-  The Great Miracle.  Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran called the Number 19 Miracle "One of the Mighty Ones (Miracles)" (74:30-37) [1] [2].  See the 100s of Noble Verses that clearly testify to this Great Miracle.  Also, did you know that Allah Almighty Said in Surat Nuh (that's Noble Chapter Nuh (Noah)) that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years among his people. 

    Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah is exactly written in 950 Letters [1] [2]!  You can thoroughly see this in the scanned images that thoroughly verify every single Noble Letter, in the links.  Click on the links to see the many other Numerical Miracles in the Holy Quran.  Also, see the Numerical Miracles section along with all of the other great sections.  Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.

      
    3-  19 X 115 = 2185 Number 19 and BASMALA Miracle.  The total numerical value of Noble Verses 74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115): 19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task.  Again, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.
      

    4-  The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, if you add each Chapter's number with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8.  Do this for all Chapters.

    1-  The sum of the odd numbers from the list = 6555.
    2-  The sum of the even numbers from the list = 6236.

    See the XLS file for 100% confirmation.  Also, see the ample STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran, with 1,000s of examples! [1] (zip file)..  See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.

      

    5-  Please also checkout the many hundreds (1,000s) of Great Numerical Miracles, and the many tens (10s) of other Great Scientific Miracles:

      

    Quran's STUNNING-Miracles Section: [1]

    Click on the following numbers:

    1-    Geology, Earth's spherical expansion, formation, Mountains and Oceanology.
    2-    The Universe, Time, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles.
    3-    Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation, and Creation.

    4-    STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  With 1,000s of examples! [4].  See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.

    5-    Medicine, Humans, Insects and Animals.
    6-    Life, Origins of life from water and dust in the Noble Quran, Plants and their origins.
    7-    Psychology.
    8-    Archeology and History.
    9-    Great Web Sites and Online Books.

    10-   Rebuttals.
    11-   General articles.

    12-   STUNNING Prophecies, and Allah's Divine Promises to reveal the Quran's Miracles.

              Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

    13-   Audios and Videos.
    14-   Bibles' scientific absurdities and Other.

      
    For example:

    1-  The explosion of the Universe, Galaxies and Stars bring about Smoke.
      
    "When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (
    وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
      

    As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37
    is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that
    mankind will
    actually see this
    come to pass one day.  NASA and other space
    agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this
    Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a
    "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
    trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the
    look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

      

      

    The Glorious Quran declares that the earth is spherical: [1]
      
    Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:

           -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
           -  Is rotating around itself.
           -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
           -  Is in constant motion.
           -  Is suspended in space.
           -  Is swimming in space.
           -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
           -  The sunsetless North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran [4]. 

  • At the top of the North Pole, the sun never sets [4], and I showed the video for that, and also quoted the scientific sources for that. Also in the lands near by, it almost never sets either, and I quoted sources for that as well, and also showed pictures of the "polar night" skies on these lands that are near the sunsetless North Pole.
      

    (Click to play clip by physicist, Brian Cox)

    They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says.  They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93).  Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly.  The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly.


         
  • He saw the Aurora Lights covering:

    Aurora Lights Hadith

      

  • Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:

    Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest! (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)


    Visit also:
    Islamic proof that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty when it is above Mecca.


      

    Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said this about his journey to the farthest northern lands and people:

    ‏18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر

    "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"

    Noble Verse(s) 18:91

    Rodwell:

    [018:091]  Thus it was. And we had full knowledge of the forces that were with him.

    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

    18:91 كذلك وقد احطنا بما لديه خبرا

       

    Prophet Muhammad "did see" (Quran 53.18) the Aurora Lights covering the horizons above the earth from space.  Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and "Thus it was", Allah Almighty completed the "full knowledge" regarding Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.  This further supports the story below about Dhil-Qarnayn's journey to the farthest northern lands and people (The sunsetless [4] North Pole Quran-miracle).  They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says.  They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93)For example, can you read or say this:


    "Vaðlaheiðarvegavinnuverkfærageymsluskúrslyklakippuhringurinn" ??  This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly.  The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly.  The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:


    The early Muslims believed that Dhil Qarnayn reached the people of the farthest norths of the earth.  The following is a map of Al-Sharif Al-Idrisi in year 1154 giving the geographic location of where Dhil Qarnayn went according to the understanding of the early Muslims of Noble Verses 18:83-100:



    Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"

    Dhil = One who has.
    قرنين Qarnayn = two horns
    Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn).
    Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.

      

    Noble Verses 53:18 and 18:91 are also prophetically linked together; that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين  saw.  Also visit: 

    Aurora Lights Hadith

      

    Other pronunciations to "Dhil Qarnayn"ذي القرنين  name:  Zul-qarnain, Dhul Qurnain, Dhu'l Qarnain, Zulqarnain, Dhu'l-Qarneyn, Dhu'lkarnein, Dhul-Qarnain, Dhu'l Qarnain, Dhool Karnain, Zul-Qarnain, Dhoulkarnain.

     
    (Video from NASA filming the Green Carpet Aurora Lights from space)

    Again, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:

    Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!" (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)


    Visit also:
    Islamic proof that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty when it is above Mecca.


           -  The Glorious Quran also speaks about many earths [5] and not just earth.
           -  The Glorious Quran predicts
    11 planets in our solar system [6].

      

    In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31).  The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors".  The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book.  It contains no scientific error.  Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:

    1-  The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

      
    This is also all demonstrated in good details in the following
    video file and articles:

    www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm.  I used seven encyclopedic dictionaries:


    This is a picture of the seven encyclopedic dictionaries that I
    used that thoroughly demonstrate the Noble Words that contain
    the Scientific Miracles in them, and how they were used by the
    Arabs of old before and after Islam.  Ample quotations, sayings,
    proverbs and examples quoted from these dictionaries at:
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm

      

    6-  The Glorious Quran's Perfect Preservation despite all of the odds and the many challenges to corrupt It.

  • Hafs vs Warsh, and Ahruf vs Qiraat thoroughly compared here.
      
  • Also, the produce Surah like it Quran challenge to all.  Click here.
  •   

    7-  Prophet Muhammad, and Divine Islam, and the New Covenant from Arabia were thoroughly prophesied in previous scriptures.

      

    7-  Quran's STUNNING-Miracles Section: [1]

    Click on the following numbers:

    1-    Geology, Earth's spherical expansion, formation, Mountains and Oceanology.
    2-    The Universe, Time, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles.
    3-    Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation, and Creation.

    4-    STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  With 1,000s of examples! [4].  See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.

    5-    Medicine, Humans, Insects and Animals.
    6-    Life, Origins of life from water and dust in the Noble Quran, Plants and their origins.
    7-    Psychology.
    8-    Archeology and History.
    9-    Great Web Sites and Online Books.

    10-   Rebuttals.
    11-   General articles.

    12-   STUNNING Prophecies, and Allah's Divine Promises to reveal the Quran's Miracles.

              Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

               

    13-   Audios and Videos.
    14-   Other.

    And last and not least, indeed, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone for making the Noble Quran be the Perfect and Everlasting Miracle, for us humans, out of all of His Divine Miracles!  And may Allah Almighty send His Peace, Mercy and Blessings upon our Beloved and Blessed Prophet, Teacher and Role Model, Muhammad.  Ameen.



    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

      

     

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    Title: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 01, 2014, 02:02:40 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    I will write a detailed article about this in a few days, Insha'Allah.  But here is what Christ said in the Bibles:

    Matthew 24:25-27
    25 See, I have told you ahead of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
    26 So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the wilderness, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
    27 For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.

    The Bible has thoroughly defined the "East" to be the Arabs.  The following points were taken from my debate in Michigan, which took place in June of last year:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/does_muhammad_exist_in_the_bible_june_16_2013.mp4
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/luke6_40.htm

    We will clearly see from all of the verses below, along with Matthew 24:25-27 above, that the coming Prophet and the returning Messiah:

    1-  Will both be from the East.
    2-  Will both be Arabs.
    3-  Will both be non-Israelites.



     
    1-  The expected Christ and the expected Prophet:

    Again, in John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.  In John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.  So the awaited Messiah and the awaited "the Prophet" were clearly TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS, who are strangers to each others, and are not from the same bloodline.

    Let us look at the text of verses of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 in details to see the two different persons to come: the Messiah (Christ) and the Prophet:

      

    John 1:19-21
    John the Baptist Tells People About Jesus
    19 Here is the truth
    John told [testimony John gave; witness of John; 1:6] when the leaders [Jewish leadership; L Jews; C John often uses the term Jews to refer to the religious leaders in opposition to Jesus, rather than to the Jewish people generally] in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites [C the religious authorities; priests oversaw temple worship; Levites were members of the tribe of Levi who assisted them; 1 Chr. 23:2432] to ask him, Who are you?

    20 John spoke freely [confessed] and did not refuse to answer [deny it]. He said, I am not the Christ [Messiah].
    21
    So they asked him, Then who are you? Are you Elijah? [C&#38;#38;#38;#38;#8239;Elijah, an OT prophet, was expected to come back before the Messiah; 1 Kin. 172 Kin. 2; Mal. 4:56.]

    He answered, No, I am not.

    Are you the Prophet? [C the Prophet like Moses predicted in Deut. 18:1519] they asked.
    He answered,
    No.

      
    John 7:40-44
    The People Argue About Jesus
    40 When the people heard Jesus words, some of them said,
    This man really is the Prophet [1:21; C the prophet like Moses of Deut. 18:1518].

    41
    Others said, He is the Christ [Messiah]. Still others said, The Christ [Messiah] will not come from Galilee.

    42 The Scripture says that the
    Christ [Messiah] will come from Davids family [offspring; L seed; 2 Sam. 7:1216; Ps. 89:34; Is. 9:7; 55:3] and from Bethlehem, the town [village] where David lived [Mic. 5:2].
    43 So the people did not agree with each other [L there was a division in the crowd] about Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .
    44 Some of them wanted to arrest [seize] him, but no one was able to touch [L lay a hand on] him.

    Again, here are passages of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
      
        
      
    Click to expand.

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    2-  Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite):

    1. Did you know that the Bible declares in Matthew 24:25-27 that Jesus will return as an Arab?
        
      Matthew 24:25-27
      25 See, I have told you ahead of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
      26 So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the wilderness, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
      27 For as lightning that comes
      from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
        
      The Bible, throughout its books, has thoroughly defined the "East" to be the Arabs: [1] [2] [3].
        
    2. Not only that, but the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls also predicted the coming of Prophet Ahmed from the east.  Ahmed is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.
        
    3. Prophet Muhammad said that Jesus Christ will return from Damascus.
        
    4. So why won't Jesus Christ return as a Jew from Israel?  See the Islamic Prophecies about the ONE-EYED dajjal (anti-Christ).


    Note on Isaiah 41:25 below:  My link below gives link to John Knox commentary.  The biblegateway.com website, however, has removed him, and now they're routing my link to another translation!  Not sure why they did that.  I tried finding his commentary online, but no luck.  I will search for it and post it here, Insha'Allah.  For the meantime, the following commentaries on Isaiah 41:25 should be helpful, Insha'Allah:

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah%2041&version=CEV
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+41&version=ERV
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+41&version=EXB
    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+41&version=NRSV



     

    The Arabian Prophet from the EAST:

     

    To further prove beyond any doubt that Deuteronomy 18:18-20 are speaking about Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, let us look at Isaiahs Prophecies and Visions:

     

    • Isaiah 41:1 Let the people of the world have a fresh heart.
        
    • Isaiah 41:2 A servant coming from the EASTThe nations should be at his mercy, kings be subdued at his coming; flying like dust before his sword, scattered like chaff in the wind at the threat of his bow.
        
      • The Ishmaelites are called the EAST:
          
        Genesis 16:11-13
        Knox Bible (KNOX)

        11 And he added, Now thou art with child; it is a son that will be born to thee, and thou shalt call him Ismael (that is, God hears), in token that God has listened to thee in thy affliction.
        12 His shall be a nature none can tame; hating all (evil) and hated by all (evil ones), he shall pitch his camp eastwards of his brethren.
        13 Thus the Lord spoke to her, and thus she named him, Thou art God, that hast looked on me; for indeed, she said, there was one who looked on me here, and I saw him as he left me.
          
      • Judges 7:12
        There were Madian and Amalec, and all the tribes of the EAST (Arabs), scattered through the valley, like a swarm of locusts; countless as the sea sand, their camels lay beside them.
          
      • Book of Jubilees 20:13
        And Ishmael and his sons, and the sons of Keturah and their sons, went together and dwelt from Paran to the entering in of Babylon in all the land which is towards the East facing the desert. And these mingled with each other, and their name was called Arabs, and Ishmaelites.
          
          
    • Isaiah 41:3  He shall rout them in battle (put them to the sword).
        
    • Isaiah 41:8-13  GOD Almighty assures the House of Jacob that they are still loved and chosen by GOD Almighty.  Do not be afraid (of this Servant).
        
       

      Are you the Prophet?

      Isaiah 42:10-13 (listed in details below)   GOD will sing a New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers" (Deuteronomy 18:18).  Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. .  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, only Islam fulfilled Deuteronomy's army of 10,000 Believers (Deuteronomy 33:2).  The New Testament also renews this Prophecy and claims it is yet to be fulfilled in the future.  Also, Ishmael's Covenant was left for the "later generations".  Also, year 314:  Paran's geography was Mecca; 300 years before Islam.  Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty in Isaiah's prophecy and other OT books.  See also Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")    .

      Isaiah 56:5:  The future believers' name will no longer be Sons and daughters of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Their title will be Muslims.  The Jews also confirm this.

      The final Prophet in Jeremiah 31:31-32, Isaiah 42:10-13, John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 will bring a new covenant different from the one given to Moses ("It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors"), and he will be a gentile.  Only Islam's Covenant and Prophet fulfilled this.

      Prophecy about Muslims will bow to GOD in the direction of His Holy Temple.  Notice the "I will" and "toward" prophecy:

      Psalm 138:2
      I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

      In the OT, "the Prophet" will come from "their brothers" (the Jews' brothers: Deuteronomy 18:18).  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, a plethora of Prophecies in OT and NT that speak about this Prophet to be a Gentile, and will come from the Southern Lands, and from the Lands of Kedar and Teman (all in Saudi Arabia), and the House of GOD will be established in the deserts of Kedar:

      Muhammad in the Bibles.
      Muhammad in the NT.
      Muhammad in the OT.

      John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
      John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.

      Are you the Christ?  No. 
      Are you Elijah?  No. 
      Are you the Prophet?  No.

      Here are passages of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on image to expand:
        
         

      Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

        

        
         Click to expand.

      Keep in mind also that Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Ample forgeries and lies were made by the pagan churches.

           
          

      300 years before Islam, Paran was Mecca:


      From www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm:

        

      300 years before Islam, manuscripts were found that gave the location of Paran to be in modern-day Mecca.  "Burden" is a monumental honorable thing from GOD Almighty.  Burden was used for Noah and other Prophets' tasks as well.  Notice in the following honorable burden how GOD Almighty will come from a far southern land, and from Teman and Paran in Arabia:
        
        

      Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty.

      Isaiah 21:13
      13 The burden upon Arabia....

      Habakkuk 1:1
      1 The burden which Habakkuk the prophet
      did see.

        

      What burden did he see?

      Habakkuk 3:3
      3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah (Arabian desert of  Selah in Isaiah 42:11 and MOUNT SELA in Medina thoroughly discussed below). His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
        
        

      Tema in Hebrew means the "south country".  We also know that Tema (Tayma) is in Saudi Arabia today, and Saudi Arabia is indeed south of Palestine and Jordan.  So, GOD came from the south Arabian country, and His holy one from Mecca is the future burden that Prophet Habakkuk saw.  300 years before Islam, Paran was Mecca.


        
      Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty.

      Isaiah 30:6 The burden upon the south.

      Isaiah 30:27
      27
      Behold, the name of the
      Lord cometh from far (Far from Palestine. 
      Mecca is 900+ miles far, and it is in the south), burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

        

      Isaiah 21 Rider of camel prophecy. Only Prophet Muhammad fulfilled it when he entered Medina
      (city of Mount Selah) with his camel. Allah Almighty also commanded the Prophet to let his
      camel walk freely and settle in the spot that which first Islamic Mosque was built on:
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkvncOs-syU
      www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_21_rider_of_camel_prophecy.mp4
      www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

      00:00 Original reading has a single donkey and single camel rider, and jews corrupted the text
      02:45 Who are the 2 horsemen?
      05:27 Hard to determine the other two riders based on Babylon first destruction
      06:22 Babylon's second destruction and the rise of Islam in Habakkuk & Deuteronomy 33
      23:00 Babylon's second destruction and the rise of Islam in Daniel 2
      24:46 The donkey rider and the camel rider
      28:36 Cyrus didn't fulfill verse 9, Islamic empire did
      31:49 Book of revelation & Targum Jonathan say it's about 2 destructions of Babylon
      33:33 Rabbis admitting this prophecy & Ishmael isn't the camel rider
      39:53 Questions to those who deny this prophecy



      Arabia's
      honorable burden, Islam, is indeed monumental; heavy

       

      GOD's Honorable Burdens upon Arabia:

      GOD Almighty's new burdens that he placed on future Arabia are the same burdens that He placed upon Prophets, and also upon places where the righteous believers carry His Truth and uphold it.  A burden from GOD Almighty is:

      1-  Costly.
      2-  Requires endless patience and perseverance.
      3-  Is an honor from GOD Almighty upon the individual or the group of people.
      4-  Is not a wrath from GOD Almighty upon the individual or people.

        

      Future Arabia has many burdens placed upon it throughout the OT.  Notice also in the Bible, Prophet Job was called "perfect and upright" by GOD Almighty in the OT.  He was a very rich Arab man.  Also, Jesus in the NT called the Canaanite Palestinian woman "O woman, how great is your faith!  Be it as you wish."  He never granted any wish a person desires to any person throughout the NT, other than this Arab woman.

        

      Arabia's Future Blessings:

      Shout in joy Arabs in Arabia, for the streams of GOD's Truth and Blessings will gush from your lands; Arabia!

      Isaiah 35:6
      Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the
      desert shall waters break out, and streams running from Arabia.

      will shout for joy. וְתָרֹ֖ן
      (vetaron)
      7442: to give a ringing cry a prim. root
      For waters מַ֔יִם
      (mayim,)
      4325: waters, water a prim. root
      will break forth נִבְקְע֤וּ
      (nivke'u)
      1234: to cleave, break open or through a prim. root
      in the wilderness בַמִּדְבָּר֙
      (vammidbar)
      4057b: wilderness from dabar
      And streams וּנְחָלִ֖ים
      (unechalim)
      5158a: torrent, torrent-valley, wadi of uncertain derivation
      in the Arabah. בָּעֲרָבָֽה׃
      (ba'aravah.)
      6160: a steppe or desert plain, also a desert valley running South from the Sea of Galilee (i.e., precisely the lands of Saudi Arabia where Mecca and Medina are located) from the same as Arab

      Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/goddess_asherah_pornography_return_of_messiah_damascus.htm

                

      Isaiah 30:6 The burden upon the south.

      Isaiah 30:27
      27
      Behold, the name of the
      Lord cometh from far (Far from Palestine.  Mecca is 900+ miles far, and it is in the south), burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

        

      Isaiah 21 Rider of camel prophecy. Only Prophet Muhammad fulfilled it when he entered Medina
      (city of Mount Selah) with his camel. Allah Almighty also commanded the Prophet to let his
      camel walk freely and settle in the spot that which first Islamic Mosque was built on:
      www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkvncOs-syU
      www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_21_rider_of_camel_prophecy.mp4
      www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

      00:00 Original reading has a single donkey and single camel rider, and jews corrupted the text
      02:45 Who are the 2 horsemen?
      05:27 Hard to determine the other two riders based on Babylon first destruction
      06:22 Babylons second destruction and the rise of Islam in Habakkuk & Deuteronomy 33
      23:00 Babylons second destruction and the rise of Islam in Daniel 2
      24:46 The donkey rider and the camel rider
      28:36 Cyrus didn't fulfill verse 9, Islamic empire did
      31:49 Book of revelation & Targum Jonathan say its about 2 destructions of Babylon
      33:33 Rabbis admitting this prophecy & Ishmael isnt the camel rider
      39:53
      Questions to those who deny this prophecy

        

      Arabia's honorable burden, Islam, is indeed monumental and heavy.

      Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

      Notice the language of how Satan was:

      1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
      2. Glorious.
      3. "the chosen one".
      4. The "Anointed".
      5. ruler over earth.
      6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
      .

      7.
      Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

      He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



      Holy Gambling:
        
      Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
      Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




      Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

      The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
      [1]

         


      Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

        

      Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


      Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

      See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

      Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

        

      Also Mount Hira in Mecca in Isaiah 29:12 is possibly the same mountain Moses received GOD Almighty's Divine Revelations in, since this is the same mountain Prophet Muhammad received the Quran in.
        

      Isaiah 42:10-13 (listed in details below)   GOD will sing a New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers" (Deuteronomy 18:18).  Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. .  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, only Islam fulfilled Deuteronomy's army of 10,000 Believers (Deuteronomy 33:2).  The New Testament also renews this Prophecy and claims it is yet to be fulfilled in the future.  Also, Ishmael's Covenant was left for the "later generations".  Also, year 314:  Paran's geography was Mecca; 300 years before Islam.  Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty in Isaiah's prophecy and other OT books.  See also Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")    .

      Isaiah 56:5:  The future believers' name will no longer be Sons and daughters of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Their title will be Muslims.  The Jews also confirm this.

      The final Prophet in Jeremiah 31:31-32, Isaiah 42:10-13, John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 will bring a new covenant different from the one given to Moses ("It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors"), and he will be a gentile.  Only Islam's Covenant and Prophet fulfilled this.

      Prophecy about Muslims will bow to GOD in the direction of His Holy Temple.  Notice the "I will" and "toward" prophecy:

      Psalm 138:2
      I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

       


        
      Jesus' Path to Islam quite clearly defined in Matthew 21:33-46:  Servants (FAILED) -> Son (FAILED) -> New Tenants ("other tenants") and New Ethnic People Jesus said (ethnei ἔθνει) (new nation)
      (non-Jewish Muslims>)). 
        The
      "great nation" of Ishmael OT prophecy begins to be fulfilled in Matthew 21:33-46. 

      Notice how Isaiah 42:11 defines the NEW SONG and NEW PEOPLE:

      The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

      1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
      2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
      3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
      4. He will sing a new song (law)
      5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
      NOT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL Matthew (15:24)
      6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
      7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

      Who is this man?

      https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3880.msg18381#msg18381

      Ample more details and proofs also below.

      Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  

        

      Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty.

      Isaiah 30:6
      6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.

      Isaiah 30:27
      27 Behold, the name of the Lord cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

      Isaiah 42:10-13 (listed in details below)   GOD will sing a New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers" (Deuteronomy 18:18)Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. .  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, only Islam fulfilled Deuteronomy's army of 10,000 Believers (Deuteronomy 33:2).  The New Testament also renews this Prophecy and claims it is yet to be fulfilled in the future.  Also, Ishmael's Covenant was left for the "later generations".  Also, year 314:  Paran's geography was Mecca; 300 years before Islam.  Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty in Isaiah's prophecy and other OT books.

      1-  Tema was one of Ishmael's sons.  It is also worth mentioning that Arabs in the OT and NT were called "perfect and upright" and have "great faith".  Not a single Jew was ever called that.

      2-  Tema in Hebrew means the "south country".  We also know that Tema (Tayma) is in Saudi Arabia today, and Saudi Arabia is indeed south of Palestine and Jordan.  So, GOD came from the south Arabian country, and His holy one from Mecca is the future burden that Prophet Habakkuk saw.  300 years before Islam, Paran was Mecca.

      Jesus' Path to Islam quite clearly defined in Matthew 21:33-46:  Servants (FAILED) -> Son (FAILED) -> New Tenants ("other tenants") and New Ethnic People Jesus said (ethnei ἔθνει) (new nation) (non-Jewish Muslims>)).    The "great nation" of Ishmael OT prophecy begins to be fulfilled in Matthew 21:33-46. 

      Notice how Isaiah 42:11 defines the NEW SONG and NEW PEOPLE:

      The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

      1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
      2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
      3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
      4. He will sing a new song (law)
      5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
      NOT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL Matthew (15:24)
      6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
      7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

      Who is this man?

      https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3880.msg18381#msg18381

      Ample more details and proofs also below.

      Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  

        


      GOD's burden will be upon Arabia prophecy.  The same word, "burden," was also used for monumental assigned tasks to Prophets.  So, Arabia was chosen to carry the burden, and to bear the brunt and pain of spreading GOD Almighty's Truth to the entire world.  See Goddess Asherah, pornography, return of the Messiah from Damascus, Bible and Islam Prophecy for ample verses and proofs.  The Prophecy also says GOD will come from a 
      far southern land [1], and from Teman and Paran [1] (both are in Saudi Arabia).  That's precisely Islam.  300 years before Islam, Paran's geography was determined to be in modern-day Mecca.  Manuscripts were found.


      Know also that the entire "House of Jacob", in Isaiah's prophecy, was commanded to follow this Servant-to-come from the deserts of Arabia [1].  Do not be afraid (Isaiah 41:8-13) of this new GENTILE SERVANT (Isaiah 41:2, 42:1) and the NEW CHANGE (he will sing a NEW SONG of new Divine Revelation Isaiah 42:10) that the desert of Kedar will rejoice for his coming (Isaiah 42:11).  Never was this said for an Israelite Prophet.  THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF JACOB were commanded to not be afraid of him, because he will be a NON-ISRAELITE ProphetNEW SONG here means a new non-Hebrew Arabic Scripture to come from Arabia (Kedar); the Glorious Quran.  Read Isaiah 41 & 42

      Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...".

        

      Also visit: Becca is Mecca in Psalm 4:6.  According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources.  Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca.  In the NIV Bible commentary of Psalm 84, they also mentioned that Selah was mentioned in verses 4 and 8 of Psalm 84.  Half of the Book of Psalm talks about Selah, and half of the Book of Isaiah has prophecies about the blessed future Arabia [2] [3].
        

      Also, cave Hira, which the Glorious Quran was sent down in, was precisely mentioned by the name in Isaiah 29:12.

        
        

      Teman Prophecy in Isaiah:

      The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Ishmael was the older brother of Isaac.  The Arabian desert of Kedar, which covers Teman [1]:

      Isaiah 42:
      10 Sing to the Lord a NEW SONG (new non-Hebrew, non-Jewish Divine Revelation "from their brothers (the Ishmaelites)" (Deuteronomy 18:18)Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. , i.e., the Arabic Quran) And His praise from the ends of the earth, You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, You coastlands and you inhabitants of them!
      11 Let the wilderness (
      desert in many translations) and its cities lift up their voice, The villages that Kedar inhabits.  Let the inhabitants of Sela sing, Let them shout from the top of the mountains.
      12 Let them give glory to the Lord, And declare His praise in the coastlands.
      13 The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; He shall stir up His zeal like a
      man of war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies.

      Indeed, Islam came from Arabia.  The Glorious Quran is the NEW SONG that the Hebrew speaking Jews are not part of or used to.  And Islam prevailed over its Arabian enemies in the desert and ended the polytheism and idol worship.  Read Isaiah 41 & 42 Notice again:

      Isaiah 42:11
      1599 Geneva Bible
      11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the towns that [a] Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rocks sing: let them shout from the top of the mountains.

      Footnotes
      a. Isaiah 42:11 Meaning, the Arabians, under whom he comprehendeth all the people of the East.

      Source:  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+42%3A11&version=GNV

        

      Isaiah 42:11 Let the desert and its cities lift up their voice, The villages that Kedar inhabits.  Let the inhabitants of Sela סלע  sing, Let them shout from the top of the mountains.

      סלע:

      ס = S
      ל = L
      ע = A

      It is the city and region of Saleh in Saudi Arabia.  Hebrew SALA or SELA is SALAH or Saleh in Arabic.  Vowels are added to letters in Hebrew and Arabic to change the sound of letter.  This is similar to the letters E, O and other vowel letters in English.  Also inside the city of Medina, Islam's second holiest city, there is also Mount Sela.  Medina was Yathrib before Islam.  The Jewish Prophecy here could either be referring to the entire region or directly and specially to the city of Medina.  In either case, the geography is clearly deep in Arabia:

      Sela (Arabic: سلع ‎) is a mountain in Medina in modern Saudi Arabia. Mount Sela in the "District of the Seven Mosques" in city of Medina Municipality in Saudi Arabia. Sela means "sliced", because the mountain looks as if it is sliced several times. The Islamic prophet Muhammad in the Battle of the Trench prayed to God for victory on Mount Sela.

      Source: https://www.bing.com/search?q=mount Sela in Medina
        

      Remember in Isaiah 42:13, above, "MAN OF WAR. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies." (Isaiah 42:13)


        

      And again, it is also worth mentioning that Arabs in the OT and NT were called "perfect and upright" and have "great faith".  Not a single Jew was ever called that.
        

        

      Desert of Saleh :

      Isaiah 42:11 Let the desert and its cities lift up their voice, The villages that Kedar inhabits.  Let the inhabitants of Sela sing, Let them shout from the top of the mountains.
        

      Although archaeological remains may not be the first thing that spring to mind when most people think of Saudi Arabia, it has incredible historic sites. Mada'in Saleh, which was designated a World Heritage Site by UNESCO, contains many remarkable ruins and tombs. It is the first location in Saudi Arabia to have achieved this distinction. It was once the second city of perhaps the most important pre-Islamic Arabian civilization, the Nabateans.

      ......

      Niches carved into the rock at Madain Saleh, Saudi Arabia (paulfell / Adobe Stock)

      Niches carved into the rock at Madain Saleh, Saudi Arabia paulfell / Adobe Stock)

      Source:  www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-asia/mada-saleh-0013171

      See also the locations of the Saudi Arabian deserts of Kedar, Dumah, Dedan, Teman, Paran using Atlas, Google Maps and archeology at:

                   www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm

         

      Remember:  Burden is a monumental honorable thing from GOD Almighty.  Burden was used for Noah and other Prophets' tasks as well.  Visit section #2 in the following article about "2-  The honorable burdens throughout the Bible".  Notice how GOD Almighty will come from a far southern land, and from Teman and Paran in particular in Arabia:
        

            Isaiah 21:13  The burden upon Arabia
           
                   
      Isaiah 30:27  GOD's Name will come from a far land
                
           
              Habakkuk 3:3  GOD will come from the southern (Tema) Arabian lands
                   
                   
      Isaiah 42:10-13 
      New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers"
      (Deuteronomy 18:18)Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses.

        

      www.answering-christianity.com/goddess_asherah_pornography_return_of_messiah_damascus.htm  
      www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm

        

      Isaiah 42:13 The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man;
      Habakkuk 3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

      So we have the deserts of Teman, Paran, Kedar, Sela (Selah).  We also have Arabia, Duma, Deedan, and others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).  Again, remember: Burden is a monumental honorable thing from GOD Almighty.  Burden was used for Noah and other Prophets' tasks as well.  Visit section #2 in the following article about "2- The honorable burdens throughout the Bible".  Notice in the following honorable burden how GOD Almighty will come from a far southern land, and from Teman and Paran in Arabia:
        

      Isaiah 21:13  The burden upon Arabia

        
      www.answering-christianity.com/goddess_asherah_pornography_return_of_messiah_damascus.htm
      www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm

        
        

      House of Jacob must follow him:


      Know also that the entire "House of Jacob", in Isaiah's prophecy, was commanded to follow this Servant-to-come from the deserts of Arabia [1].  Do not be afraid (Isaiah 41:8-13) of this new GENTILE SERVANT (Isaiah 41:2, 42:1) and the NEW CHANGE (he will sing a NEW SONG of new Divine Revelation Isaiah 42:10) that the desert of Kedar will rejoice for his coming (Isaiah 42:11).  Never was this said for an Israelite Prophet.  THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF JACOB were commanded to not be afraid of him, because he will be a NON-ISRAELITE ProphetNEW SONG here means a new non-Hebrew Arabic Scripture to come from Arabia (Kedar); the Glorious Quran.  Read Isaiah 41 & 42

      Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...".
        

      Jesus' Path to Islam quite clearly defined in Matthew 21:33-46:  Servants (FAILED) -> Son (FAILED) -> New Tenants ("other tenants") and New Ethnic People Jesus said (ethnei ἔθνει) (new nation) (non-Jewish Muslims>)).    The "great nation" of Ishmael OT prophecy begins to be fulfilled in Matthew 21:33-46. 

      Notice how Isaiah 42:11 defines the NEW SONG and NEW PEOPLE:

      The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

      1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
      2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
      3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
      4. He will sing a new song (law)
      5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
      NOT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL Matthew (15:24)
      6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
      7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

      Who is this man?

      https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3880.msg18381#msg18381

      Ample more details and proofs also below.

      Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  

        
        

      Hub leading to Islam:
        

      Jesus was the final Jewish Prophet, and the Messiah who shall return from Arabia (Matthew 24:25-27 and Islam say this), and his mission and message were limited to his Jewish generation.  He was a hub leading to Islam and to the new change:
        

      Matthew 15:24 24 Jesus answered, I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.
      Matthew 24:34  "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
      Matthew 5:17-20, Matthew 23:1-3 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

      Jesus was limited to only his Jewish generation.  Beyond that, he was only a hub leading to Islam and to Muhammad, the gentile Prophet.  Please also visit:

      Muhammad in the Bibles.
      Muhammad in the NT.
      Muhammad in the OT.
      Jesus was for his generation only.  Detailed Greek analysis.

      This is further proven in the following:

      Are you the Christ?  No. 
      Are you Elijah?  No. 
      Are you the
      Prophet?  No.

        

      Are you the Prophet?

      In the OT, "the Prophet" will come "from their brothers" (the Jews' brothers: Deuteronomy 18:18).  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, a plethora of Prophecies in OT and NT that speak about this Prophet to be a Gentile, and will come from the Southern Lands, and from the Lands of Kedar and Teman (all in Saudi Arabia), and the House of GOD will be established in the deserts of Kedar:

      Muhammad in the Bibles.
      Muhammad in the NT.
      Muhammad in the OT.

      John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
      John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.

      Are you the Christ?  No. 
      Are you Elijah?  No. 
      Are you the
      Prophet?  No.

      Here are passages of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on image to expand:
        
         

      Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

        

        
         Click to expand.

        

      Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...".


        
      300 years before Islam, manuscripts were found that gave the location of Paran to
      be in modern-day Mecca.

        

      Also visit: Becca is Mecca in Psalm 4:6.  According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources.  Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca.  In the NIV Bible commentary of Psalm 84, they also mentioned that Selah was mentioned in verses 4 and 8 of Psalm 84.  Half of the Book of Psalm talks about Selah, and half of the Book of Isaiah has prophecies about the blessed future Arabia [2] [3].
        

      Also, cave Hira, which the Glorious Quran was sent down in, was precisely mentioned by the name in Isaiah 29:12.

        

        
      = War on GOD:

      Also visit:

      Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


      Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
        
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      "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

      Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


      "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

        

      Christianity is a war on GOD Almighty and a polytheist trinitarian paganism.  It turned sinful into lawful and lawful into sinful.  (ex: pork became lawful, polygamy became sinful and many other examples of blasphemies and quackery):

      Daniel 7:25
      25 He shall speak words against the Most High (turning sinful lawful and lawful sinful),
      and shall wear out the saints of the Most High,
      and shall think to change the times and the law; (AD calendar and christianity)

      and they shall be given into his hand (christianity will be forged)
      for a time, times, and half a time.


      GOD Almighty in the OT also sends lying spirits to the false prophets and their followers to help them grow their lies and misleading.  See also Oxymoron Trinity  (100+ verses).

        
        

      Islam is the Divine Truth:

      Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

    • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
    • What is Islam?
    •   

      For ample more proofs, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm.



       

    • Isaiah 41:18  The desert will be blessed with lots of pools of fresh water, and running streams, and green.
        
    • Isaiah 41:25
      Contemporary English Version (CEV)

      25 I, the Lord, appointed a ruler in the north (Madina is north of Mecca); now he comes from the EAST to honor my name. He tramples kings like mud, as potters trample clay.
        
      • FOOTNOTE (Knox Bible) Isaias 41:25 There is the same uncertainty here about the person alluded to, as in verse 2 above.
          
        •  They say theyre not sure who that Servant from the EAST is!  This is further proof that Christ does not fit the description.
            
    • Isaiah 41:27  This is good news to Jerusalem. 
        
      • Again, good the House of Jacob should be afraid of him.
          
    • Isaiah 42:1 And now, here is my servant,[a] to whom I grant protection, the man of my choice, greatly beloved. My spirit rests upon him, and he will proclaim right order among the Gentiles.
        
      • FOOTNOTE (1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)): Isaiah 42:1 He shall declare himself governor over the Gentiles, and call them by his word, and rule them by his Spirit.
          
    • Isaiah 42:3  he will establish right order unfailingly.
        
    • Isaiah 42:4 ... (He has a message of Peace for Mankind).  He has a law to give; in the far-off lands men wait for it eagerly.... 
        
      • Indeed, the deteriorating world is in a DESPERATE NEED FOR ISLAM!
          
    • Isaiah 42:6  The Servant will bring a (new) Covenant to GOD Almightys people, and he will be a Light to the Gentiles.
        
    • Isaiah 42:9  .more Prophecies about this Servant and Covenant are yet to come.
        
    • Isaiah 42:10  Sing the Lord a new song; let his praise sound from end to end of the earth.
        
    • Isaiah 42:11
      1599 Geneva Bible (GNV)
      11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the towns that [a] Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rocks sing: let them shout from the top of the mountains.
        
      • Footnotes:
        Isaiah 42:11
        Meaning, the Arabians, under whom he comprehendeth all the people of the East.
          
    • Isaiah 42:12  Let them (the Arabs) give glory unto the Lord, and declare his praise..
        
    • Isaiah 42:13  The Servant shall go forth as a giant; he shall stir up his courage like a man of war: he shall shout and cry, and shall prevail against his enemies.
        
    • Isaiah 42:18-23  Israel is called the blind and deaf servant who received MANY PROPHETS, but heard not.
        
      • Verse 21 further says: It was ever the Lords will to sanctify him (the servant Israel); so great, so glorious the law (the Law of Moses) he gave him;
          
      • So the Sing the Lord a new song (Isaiah 42:10) is a THE NEW LAW, Islam.
          
      • Furthermore, Verse 23 calls on to the Jews to LISTEN TO THIS NEW PROPHECY about the New Servant from Arabia:

        Which of you will listen to this, and mark it, and give a hearing to the prophecy?
          
          
    • Isaiah 21
      1 The burden of the desert of the sea....
      ......
      5 Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise, ye princes, and anoint the shield.
      6 For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go, set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth.
        

      Isaias 21:7
      Knox Bible (KNOX)
      7 A chariot he saw, with two out-riders (chariots), one that rode on an ass (singular), and one that rode on a camel (singular); looked long at them, watching them eagerly.
        

       
      • NOTE:  A Chariot master is a Servant of GOD who is SENT BY GOD ALMIGHTY in the Bibles: 1 Chronicles 28:18.
          
      • Also, Christ fulfilled the riding of the ass or donkey vision, when he entered Jerusalem on an ass, in John 12:14.
          
      • Also, looked long at them, watching them eagerly.  clearly means that these are two very important Servants.
          
          
          
    • 8 And he cried, A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights:

      9 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he (Muhammad, Islam) hath broken unto the ground.
      .
      13 The burden upon Arabia.
        
        
      • Babylon did indeed fall before Islam and the Islamic nation under the guidance of Muhammad (peace be upon him) did indeed succeed in eradicating the worship of idols from Babylon replacing it with the worship of God alone. In fact, the Muslims were the only believers in the God of Isaiah to ever succeed in fulfilling this prophesy.
          
          
      •  As to "The burden upon Arabia ..." (Isaiah 21:13), what does it mean?
          

            "which also means an oracle is a word sometimes used in the prophetical writings to indicate a divine message of judgment" (Scofield Study Bible New King James Version, note 1, p. 792)



      

      • The pagan religions of Arabia had all originated from Babel.  Pagan Arabia is called the Daughter of Babylon: Isaiah 47:1.
          
      • So Babylon is fallen, is fallen clearly refers to the fall of ALL OF THE IDOLS AND PAGAN RELIGIONS in all of the Arabic and Arabian lands.
          
      • In fact, Isaiah 47:1 and Jeremiah 51:33, give a mighty prophecy against the pagan religions of Arabia, and prophesied about its end, and replacement with a NEW DIVINE RELIGION.

        Lets read the two verses:
          
        • Isaiah 47:1
          Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
                
          • Now why was Arabia called VIRGIN DAUGHTER OF BABYLON?  Because the Arabs as I mentioned were fresh, and had no previous scriptures, nor religions.  Arabia was a virgin in that.  It had no previous religion, and it was ready for a Divine Religion to be sent to it, which is Islam!  Allah Almighty Said in the Holy Quran:
              
          • [034:043]  When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, they say, "This is only a man who wishes to hinder you from the (worship) which your fathers practised." And they say, "This is only a falsehood invented!" and the Unbelievers say of the Truth when it comes to them, "This is nothing but evident magic!"
              
          • [034:044]  But We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent apostles to them before thee as Warners.

              
                 
        • Furthermore, we read in Jeremiah 51:33:
            
          Jeremiah 51:33
          For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while,
          and the time of her harvest shall come.
             
          • Arabias harvest is indeed the Divine Religion, Islam.  GOD Almightys Original Faith on Earth, and the RELIGION OF THE PEOPLE OF KEDAR is Islam.  Muhammad was the Servant of GOD Almighty to come, that was mentioned in Isaiah 41 & 42.




             
    • Furthermore we read in Isaiah 21:14-15:
        

    o       Isaiah 21:14-15
    "The inhabitants of the land of Tema..
      

             In The Dictionay of the Bible, bearing the Nihil Obstat, Imprimatur, and Imprimi Potest (official Church seals of approval), by John McKenzi, we read that Tema is:
      

             "a place name and tribal name of Arabia; a son of Ishmael.... The name survives in Teima, an oasis of the part of the Arabian desert called the Nefud in N Central Arabia."
      
      

             Also, Ishmaels ninth sons name is Tema (Genesis 25:13-15).
      

             Strong's concordance tells us that this name was also applied to the land settled by Tema the son of Ishmael. It goes on to explain how this word is "probably of foreign derivation". Indeed, this word, Teima, is an Arabic word which means "Barren desert".
      
      

    • Furthermore, we read in Isaiah 21:16-17:

      Isaiah 21:16-17
      "For thus hath the LORD said unto me, Within a year, according to the years of an hireling, and all the glory of Kedar shall fail. And the residue of the number of archers, the mighty men of the children of Kedar, shall be diminished: for the LORD God of Israel hath spoken [it]."
        
      • Teima till this day remains the name of a city in the Arabian peninsula just north of Madinah.
          
      • Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his companions were given sanction by Allah Almighty to migrate.
          
        • They departed Makkah during the night and left all of their possessions behind.
            
        • Upon reaching Madinah they were greeted by its citizens with open arms and Muhammad (peace be upon him) assigned each one of the Muhajireen (citizens of Makkah) to one of the Ansar (citizens of Madinah) to house and feed them until they could strike out on their own.
            
    This became the first year of the Arab "Hijra" (Emigration) calendar used in Islamic countries to this day.

     

      

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    Does Muhammad exist in the Bible?


    Anthony Rogers

    VS


    Osama Abdallah

       

    1-  Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:


    (Click to play film)

    Prophet Muhammad's Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed:

    "And when Jesus the Son of Mary said, O children of Israel, verily I am the Apostle of God sent unto you, confirming the law which was delivered before me, and bringing good tidings of an Apostle who shall come after me, and whose name shall be Ahmed. And when he produced unto them evident miracles, they said, this is manifest sorcery.  (The Noble Quran, 61:6)"

    Prophet Jesus here has shed the light on the old Prophecy of the coming Prophet, Ahmed.  So Ahmed was prophesied before Christ and also during Christ's lifetime (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

    This film was also taken from this Youtube Channel.  As the author of the video said, look at the Aramaic alphabets in the Wikipedia link given, below.  See how Hhet and Tav are written.  They look very similar.  See also how the Dalet and Khaf are written, and how they're similar.  Now create your own "AHMAD" and "ETMAK" from these alphabets.  Now, compare the two words, and see how similar they look.  Compare the two words with the DSS by ignoring the vowels and accent ending.  Which word look similar?  Now read the whole chapter of Isaiah 42.  And even if the DSS was not tampered with, was it written wrongly as the letters are very similar?  The error could have gone back even before the DSS was written.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet
    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/28_chart.html

    Manuscript
    http://www.ao.net/~fmoeller/qum-35.htm
    http://dss.collections.imj.org.il/isaiah#42:3

      

    2-  Prophet Muhammad in the Bibles:

  • Aside from the thorough articles in this section below, I demonstrated in my debate how Prophet Muhammad was Prophesied in the Bible [1] [2], and how he is the Final and Special Prophet that was going to be sent to all of mankind, according to the Bible itself. The Bible in the Old and New Testaments made DIRECT Prophecies about: 
       
    1. The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
    2. The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
    3. The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman".  Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
    4. The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
    5. The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
    6. The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
    7. "Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
    8. The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
    9. The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
    10. The Prophet who is "like Moses".  Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws.  There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
    11. Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43).  Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews.  Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.  Read more...
        
      -  By the way, the "Kingdom of God" here means THE COVENANT & RELIGION OF GOD on earth to the new nation.
        
      John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
      John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.
           
      -  Here are two captured images of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on image to expand:
        
          
         Click to expand.
        
      So the awaited Messiah and the awaited "the Prophet" were clearly
      TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS, who are strangers to each others, and are not from the same bloodline.
        
        
      1-  The expected Christ and the expected Prophet:

      Again, in John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.  In John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.  So the awaited Messiah and the awaited "the Prophet" were clearly TWO DIFFERENT PERSONS, who are strangers to each others, and are not from the same bloodline.

      Let us look at the text of verses of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 in details to see the two different persons to come: the Messiah (Christ) and the Prophet:

        

      John 1:19-21
      John the Baptist Tells People About Jesus
      19 Here is the truth
      John told [testimony John gave; witness of John; 1:6] when the leaders [Jewish leadership; L Jews; C John often uses the term Jews to refer to the religious leaders in opposition to Jesus, rather than to the Jewish people generally] in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites [C the religious authorities; priests oversaw temple worship; Levites were members of the tribe of Levi who assisted them; 1 Chr. 23:2432] to ask him, Who are you?

      20 John spoke freely [confessed] and did not refuse to answer [deny it]. He said, I am not the Christ [Messiah].
      21
      So they asked him, Then who are you? Are you Elijah? [C&#38;#38;#38;#38;#8239;Elijah, an OT prophet, was expected to come back before the Messiah; 1 Kin. 172 Kin. 2; Mal. 4:56.]

      He answered, No, I am not.

      Are you the Prophet? [C the Prophet like Moses predicted in Deut. 18:1519] they asked.
      He answered,
      No.

        
      John 7:40-44
      The People Argue About Jesus
      40 When the people heard Jesus words, some of them said,
      This man really is the Prophet [1:21; C the prophet like Moses of Deut. 18:1518].

      41
      Others said, He is the Christ [Messiah]. Still others said, The Christ [Messiah] will not come from Galilee.

      42 The Scripture says that the
      Christ [Messiah] will come from Davids family [offspring; L seed; 2 Sam. 7:1216; Ps. 89:34; Is. 9:7; 55:3] and from Bethlehem, the town [village] where David lived [Mic. 5:2].
      43 So the people did not agree with each other [L there was a division in the crowd] about Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
      .
      44 Some of them wanted to arrest [seize] him, but no one was able to touch [L lay a hand on] him.

      Again, here are two captured images of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
        
          
        
      Click to expand.

      For a thorough proof that Islam is the Divine Truth, and trinity is a man-made falsehood, please visit:

    12. What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?
    13. This website's main sections.
        
    14. Does the NT refute the Prophethood of Muhammad?  A closer look at: Matthew 21:11, Mark 6:15, John 9:17, John 6:14, John 1:19-21, John 7:40-44, Acts 7.
    15.   

      2-  Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite):

      1. Did you know that the Bible declares in Matthew 24:25-27 that Jesus will return as an Arab?
          
        Matthew 24:25-27
        25 See, I have told you ahead of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
        26 So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the wilderness, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
        27 For as lightning that comes
        from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
          
        The Bible, throughout its books, has thoroughly defined the "East" to be the Arabs: [1] [2] [3].
          
      2. Not only that, but the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls also predicted the coming of Prophet Ahmed from the east.  Ahmed is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.
          
      3. Prophet Muhammad said that Jesus Christ will return from Damascus.
          
      4. So why won't Jesus Christ return as a Jew from Israel?  See the Islamic Prophecies about the ONE-EYED dajjal (anti-Christ).

        
        

    16. The Prophet who will bring the "Message of Peace" to mankind.  Islam means being at Peace with GOD Almighty and Submitting in Peace to Him, the Almighty.
    17. The Prophet who is the "Light of the Gentiles".
    18. "Let the WORLD have a new heart (fresh start)!"
    19. The House of GOD will be "built in the desert" (the Kaaba in Mecca). The path of the desert will be called "the Path of Holiness". And the Prophet will lead 10,000 Saints to liberate it. Perfectly fulfilled in Islam!
    20. After John the Baptist, two were expected to come: (1) The Prophet, and (2) the Messiah.
    21. Also, Prophet Muhammad's Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed. [1] [2]
        
    22. Isaiah 29:12 mentions the first Quran-Revelation upon Prophet Muhammad in Cave Hira by the name.  The Quran's first revelation upon Prophet Muhammad inside cave Hira.
        
        
      Isaiah 29: Mentions Mecca's precise cave Hira (χιρα), Jireh, Quran & Muhammad.

       

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    3-  Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite):

    1. Did you know that the Bible declares in Matthew 24:25-27 that Jesus will return as an Arab, not a Jew?
        
      Matthew 24:25-27
      25 See, I have told you ahead of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
      26 So if anyone tells you, There he is, out in the wilderness, do not go out; or, Here he is, in the inner rooms, do not believe it.
      27 For as lightning that comes
      from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man.
        
      The Bible, throughout its books, has thoroughly defined the "East" to be the Arabs: [1] [2] [3].
        
    2. Not only that, but as we've seen above, the Bible and the Dead Sea Scrolls also predicted the coming of Prophet Ahmed from the east.  Ahmed is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name, as we've seen above.
        
    3. So why won't Jesus Christ return as a Jew from Israel?  See the Islamic Prophecies about the ONE-EYED dajjal (anti-Christ)

      

    4-  Why Islam? [1] [2] [3] [4]

    1-  Islam came to restore the Original Faith; the One Divine Religion of GOD Almighty to Mankind, which started with Adam and ended with Muhammad, peace, mercy and blessings be upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of GOD Almighty.

    2-  Did you know that Islam and Muslims exist in the Bible's Scriptures and outside the Bible's Scriptures 100s of times? [1] [2] [3] [4]

  • In the Bible, Muslims, Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlems, Mushlimana are the Believers' original title in the Hebrew & Aramaic Bible's Scriptures: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].
      
  • Also, proofs that early Christian believers' title was Muslims [5] from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves.  Also, Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly spoken by the natives there.
      
  • Also, ample proofs that Jesus also spoke and preached in Arabic [5], and there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the coming of Prophet Muhammad in details.
      
      
  • Also, the Bible's Shlam, Shlama (in Aramaic, the "a" at the end is the definite article that is equivalent to the alif and lam "al"), Mashloome, Mushlimana, Mishalmana, Mishlam, and also Witness in Arabic and Aramaic, and Prostration in Arabic and Aramaic are thoroughly discussed in the following text articles: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Also the Hebrew Shelem (Selem) (*), which is derived from the root Shalam, is the same as the Glorious Quran's SELM سلم, which is what Islam is also called.  Hebrews pronounce the "s" as "sh", and the "a" as an "o".  So "shalom" is really Salam (peace in Arabic) (*).  Also, the Hebrew Salam (Shalom) is also what Islam is called in the Glorious Quran (سبل السلام) (*).  Scroll below for more from the Glorious Quran.

    Also, the following videos give some very important explanations about Islam being the original Religion of GOD Almighty:
      
       
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    (Click on image for videos)
      

      
  • Islam is GOD Almighty's Original Religion to all of mankind and all creations:
      
    1. Islam is called "Islam", "Selm", and "Salam" in the Glorious Quran:
        
      1. "The Religion before God is Islam (الاسلام submission to His Will)...." (The Noble Quran, 3:19).
          
      2. "O ye who believe! Enter into Islam (في السلم into the Selm (another name for Islam)) whole-heartedly; and follow not the footsteps of the evil one; for he is to you an avowed enemy." (The Noble Quran, 2:208).
          
      3. "Wherewith God guideth all who seek His good pleasure to ways of peace and safety (سبل السلام Islam here is called the way of peace and safety), and leadeth them out of darkness, by His will, unto the light,- guideth them to a path that is straight." (The Noble Quran, 5:16).

        "But God doth call to the Home of Peace (
        دار السلام Islam here is called the House of Peace): He doth guide whom He pleaseth to a way that is straight." (The Noble Quran, 10:25).
          
    2. Islam is GOD Almighty's Religion to all of His creations.  It means submitting yourself to Allah Almighty, and to be at Peace with Allah Almighty.
        
    3. For ample more Noble Verses and proofs, please visit:
        
      What is the Wisdom of Islam?  And how will Allah Almighty Judge both Muslims and non-Muslims?
        
      What is the best way to convert a non-Muslim to Islam?
        
      The Blessed Jesus peace be upon him and Place of Jews and Christians in Islam.
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  • Islam's Practices are 100% supported in the Bibles:
       
    1. Circumambulation (tawaaf) 7 times around the Kaaba is also by the exact number in the Bible.
    2. Prostrating to GOD Almighty in the direction of His Holy Temple was done by all of the Prophets, including Jesus.
    3. Also, the Bible's fasting is to not eat and drink, like Islam:
        

      Luke5:33 They said to him, "John's disciples often fast and pray, and so do the disciples of the Pharisees, but yours go on eating and drinking."
        
      Matthew 6:16 "When you fast, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others they are fasting. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full."
           
        
  • Also "Shalom" or Shalam, which means "Peace" in Hebrew, implies "GOD's Peace be upon you" is also derived from the root Word, Islam.  GOD Almighty's Eternal Peace and us submitting to Him and to His Divine Will in Peace, is also what His Divine Religion is.  Islam is the Original Faith.
      
  • Hebrews used to pronounce the "s" as "sh".  They also pronounced the "a" as a thick "a".  So Shalom is really Salam, which means "Peace" in Arabic, and implies GOD Almighty's Peace in Islam.
      
  • Jews and Christians are much closer to Original Islam than the others [1] [2] [3].  This is one of the reasons why they're also called "People of the Book".  But they're expected to follow the Original Islam, and to know that the One Faith of GOD Almighty is Islam:
      
    "Say: 'O People of the Book (i.e., Jews and Christians)!   Come to common terms as between us and you:  That we worship none but Allah; that we associate no partners with Him; that we erect not, from among ourselves, Lords and patrons other than Allah.'  If then they turn back, say ye: 'Bear witness that we (at least) are Muslims (bowing to Allah's Will).'  (The Noble Quran, 3:64)"
      
  • So for a Jew and Christian, it should be much easier to convert to Islam, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  And of course, Islam was sent for all of mankind, and thus, we should all work on spreading Islam to mankind, in peace, wisdom, love and harmony:
      
    "Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious: for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who receive guidance.  (The Noble Quran, 16:125)"

    For ample more Noble Verses, please visit:
  • What is the Wisdom of Islam?
      
  • What is the place of Jesus, Christians, Jews and non-Muslims in Islam?
      
  • 3-  Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1] [2].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

               
           (Click to play videos)

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
           http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew

      

    5-  The "Light of the Gentiles" Prophet:

    Also on the title of the Arabian Prophet being the "Light of the Gentiles", we see that this title was given to him numerous times in both the Bible's Scriptures and the Dead Sea Scrolls.  And this shouldn't really come as a surprise to anyone, since truly the Gentiles of the Old Scriptures are the Muslims after Islam came to restore GOD Almighty's Original Faith.  So the Light that the Gentiles were going to receive was Islam; GOD Almighty's One and Original and Final and True Faith to all of mankind.

    The following image will shed more Truth on who the real Gentiles are, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  They are all in the Muslim lands today, and they are the Muslims:
      

    (Click to enlarge)

    Also, Christians in the Glorious Quran: 

    1. The Christians are the least disliked by GOD Almighty from among the disbelievers: Noble Verse 3:55.  Out of all disbelievers, Muslims will find the Christians to be full of love and mercy: 5:82.
        
    2.  فوق in 3:55, below in the article, means to put them above, or to make them better in status.
        
    3. Allah Almighty in Noble Verse 30:1-5 promised to make the Romans be victorious, because they were Christians.  But they still believe in conjecture: 4:157, 53:28, and they are among the misguided and those who went astray 1:7.  They're also crooked in their beliefs: 3:99, 7:45.
        
    4. Many of the Christians doubt trinity; a word that doesn't exist in the Bible!  Those Christians are closest to Islam, as long as they don't speak ill of Islam.  The same with the Jews who don't speak ill of the Prophets that came after such as Jesus and Muhammad: 3:113-114.

      For ample more proofs and Noble Verses, read the article below, and also please visit:

      www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_followers_prophecy.htm
      www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
      www.answering-christianity.com/blessed_jesus.htm

      

    See Also:

    The "Son of God" Title in the 1 John 2:22

    Jesus is Yahweh the Son?  See how Christians got this very wrong in the NT, using Jesus' words himself!
    Also, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1 John 2:22?

    Anti-Christ | 1john 2:22-23 | 911 was 100% an Israeli Lie | Boston | 666| Dividing Israel

    Also visit:

  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses prove trinity is false.  Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty.  His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2].  200 years no gospels | 24 other thrones besides Jesus'  | Jesus' problematic hyperboles: made sinful lawful and lawful sinful | Jesus was created | Isaiah 53 mistranslations
      
  • Oxymoron Trinity: Jesus is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet he doesn't know when the Hour of the resurrection will come (Matthew 24:36) [1], and he had to cry, weep and beg GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life.  And this proves he is our Creator?  And how is he exactly The Resurrection?  Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own?  This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols.  All are helpless.
      
        


    John 5:30
    "I cannot do anything on my own."
      (i.e., I am totally powerless.  In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  And Jesus could not determine who gets to sit on his right and on his left in Heaven.  Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said.  He also said:

    John 5:31 "If I (Jesus) bear withness of myself, then I would be a liar!"


      

    Matthew 9:3-4: Jesus said: Thinking I am GOD is an evil thought!

      



      
    Contradictions in Jesus' miracle-less miracles.  Mustard seed of faith and Great Faith both still failed: [1].
      

  • Except GOD Alone!  Jesus rejected ἀγαθόνJesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν.  He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.
      
  • Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran?  Yes.  Here are several Noble Verses that do support it.  Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
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    Doubting Thomas couldn't raise Jesus??  No way!!  He raised many before (Matthew 10:7-8):
      

    Thomas raised many people from the dead (Matthew 10:7-8).  Yet, he and the disciples could not raise Jesus back to life after the crucifixion?  Not only that, but they all fled, and Thomas became the "doubting Thomas" because he did not believe that the man who returned was Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  But did you not raise people from the dead already, Thomas?  What happened there?  You could've raised Jesus himself back to life with your own hands!  Yet, it was impossible for you to believe that it was Jesus who returned?  Why?

    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/arabs_no_longer_jews_dogs.htm

    These alleged miracles are very loud!  If you raise people from the dead, then the entire land of Palestine would've heard about it.  Yet, nothing recorded historically about them.  So do we have here loud miracles or loud lies?
      
    Also, 1 John 2:22 church-written lie is discussed further down in details in this table.  Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.

    Doubting Thomas supposedly said (in Greek???) "My Lord and my God" to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)The church thoroughly admits that NT is badly altered, and earliest copies of NT don't date before year 200.  So not only the Aramaic original language of Jesus was never documented, hence his original sayings are permanently lost, but the Greek writings (a language Jesus never spoke) had been badly corrupted.  Trinity and all its faulty analysis are based on writings that are totally off (different language and phrases spoken altogether) and utter nonsense.  Yet, all believers were called "God", and Moses was the "God" of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh:

  • Moses was called "The God" (Exodus 7:1) of the Believers, Aaron and Pharaoh.  Jesus said he was greater than Moses.  Thomas, the Disciple, called Jesus "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28).  Jesus denied to be GOD Almighty.  All Believers were called "GODS and Sons of GOD" (Psalm 82:6) in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  "GOD" in the Bible also means master, leader, priest.  Therefore, the doubting Thomas' statement didn't suggest that Jesus was his Creator.  And Jesus being a "God" doesn't mean that he is GOD Almighty.  He is just another mere "God" like the rest of the believing creations and nothing more.
      
      

  • Except GOD Alone!  Jesus rejected ἀγαθόν Jesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν.  He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.
      
  • Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion.  Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits).  King of kings for Jesus does not refer to the corrupt earthly kings and thieves.  They were offered to Jesus before during his temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all.  Jesus is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion.  Other people in the OT were called King of kings also.  So the title is not even unique to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
      
      

      

    Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]

      
    Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,*] [2] [3].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:


    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

        
    (Click to play videos)

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

    Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)"

    Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings.  He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son").  The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one".  Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON.  He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS.  The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one.  See the ample verses and analysis in the video. 

    Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew
          
    Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

     


      

  • Contradictions in Jesus' miracle-less miracles.  Mustard seed of faith and Great Faith both still failed: [1].
      
      
  • Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

      


    Click to play video [1].  Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
     earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

    Jonah was alive:  But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal.  He was alive on the shore,
    alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. 
    Alive, alive, alive!

    This Prophecy is a lie! Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
    left.  He was
    never inside any coffin nor ever got buried.  Also, because 100s
    of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
    Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down.  The soldiers were
    even denied food due to lack of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
    Jesus never got crucified: [1] [2] [3] [4].  The OT and NT clearly spell it out.  He was saved.

    Matthew 27:16-17:  There were two Jesuses!  Not one.  Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
      
    [004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
    [004:157]
    That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
    [004:158]
    Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
      

    Divine Setup for Conjecture:

    Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

    "... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)

      

    The two double-Jesus men & Pontus Pilate in Matthew 27:16-17:

    According to the Gospel of Matthew, Pontus Pilate was standing between two double-Jesus men:

    1-  Jesus Barabbas.
    2-  Jesus Barabbas.

    "...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion.  Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)

    Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.

      

    Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
      

    At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
    this debate and destroyed Christianity!
      
    This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
    Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
    the Bible's New Testament
    that Jesus Christ was never
    crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead.  This 3-hour
    debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
      
      

      
    Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die.  Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91.  Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
      
    Here is my shortened version videoDr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones.  But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video.  See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog.  You're welcomed to join in.

      

    Christianity's Salvation Lie:

    Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1].  Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa , the real Messiah.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  Notice here Jesus' statements:

    Matthew 9
    12 Jesus heard them and answered, "Healthy people don't need a doctor, but sick people do.
    13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to
    be merciful to others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).' I didn't come to invite good people to be my followers. I only came to invite sinners."

    Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

    Being Merciful to others makes you a good person.  And Jesus didn't come for you if you are.  Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people.  They're already saved.  They need no invitation.  The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.  In fact, both the OT and NT in many passages confirmed that GOD Almighty will save his Messiah from crucifixion and from death and harm.

      

     Matthew 9:12-13  I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.

     

     

      
    Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:

      
    Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:

    1-  He was assigned a grave.  This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave.  He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left.  He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.

    2-  He was pierced for our sins.  No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our" (Jews only) sins and transgressions.  If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin.  Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression.  Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.

    Also visit:

    John 11:50:  It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus

      

    Early Church Fathers:  Jesus never died for anyone's sins!

    Sam Shamoun:  The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin!  Shamoun is
    realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical
    Christianity is.  They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.

    Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross
    BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM.
    Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm

    Also see proofs from OT and NT that Jesus transformed himself into lying spirit by GOD's Command to forge Christianity.  GOD Almighty in the OT has Commanded it before:

    www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm


    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

      

    3-  In his death.  It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death.  It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed.  Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Luke 6:12, Matthew 26:36-44, Matthew 16:39, Matthew 6:5-8) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt.  all hurt.

      
      

    Lies about Psalm 91:13:

    Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:

    Psalm 91:13
    You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.

    They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross.  Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death.  They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.

      

    Response:

    But Psalm 91:14-16 refute this:

    14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.
    15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will
    rescue him and honor him.
    16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

    1-  Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a).  They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem.  I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.

    2-  Also, Jesus was never killed.  He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.

    3-  The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus.  The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.

    4-  Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him."  Clearly declares he will be saved from death.

      


    Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:

    5-  Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13:  If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said.  That's it.  Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable.  Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)It's a forgery.

      

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    Visit section 2.a in the article.

      

    Also visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23:  GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

    Quran declares all Bibles are corrupt.

    Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).  Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

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    Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity
    are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty.
    Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
    Click to play
    video clip.

    Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

    Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article.  According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament.  There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44).  Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text.  Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT.  It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty.  The Bibles are all corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran).  We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
      


    Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:


      

    How big was the first New Testament?

    The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet.  The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      


      

    The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.

      

      
      

  • King Melchizedek [1]:

  • The Bible also says that Jesus had to be "in according to Melchizedek".  And who is Melchizedek?  According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20).
      
  • Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.
      
      
  • Also, Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son Son here means he is the Messiah.  The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah.  This is his special sonship.  He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2].  He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard.  He is also heir of GOD on earth only.  That's the limit of his sonship.  Otherwise, it is sun chips!  There is nothing GODly about him.  He is not our Creator.  With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him) See also:
      

  • Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran.  They are "....no more than servants raised to honor.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
  • Oxymoron Trinity.
  • Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.
  • Again, could "Jesus" and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own?  This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols.  All are helpless.  All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.
      
      
    Sun Chips oxymoron:  The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

      
  • Jesus denied knowing when Judgment Day will come, and said I DON'T KNOW, ONLY GOD ALONE KNOWS!
      
  • 1 John 2:22-23 [1] church-written lie are discussed further down in details in this table.  Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.

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    For ample more details, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

  • Also, the Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam [1], and the Majestic "We" [1] [2] [3] [4]
  • www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1904.msg7673#msg7673
    www.answering-christianity.com/john20_28.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_had_no_will.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_miracles.htm (non of Jesus' Miracles were unique)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

      
    Adam is greater than Jesus:

    Jesus forbade people from calling him "son of David" and "son of Abraham" ( Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...").  He said he is greater than them, and no one should call him son of any of these two servants of GOD Almighty.  Yet, Jesus walked around and called himself son of Adam countless times:

  • Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.

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    Oxymoron Trinity [1]:

    From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#permission:


    Trinitarians:  Jesus is our Creator.
    Jesus:  Why are you thinking such evil things?

    Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV)
    3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!"
    4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said,
    "Why are you thinking such
    evil things?

    Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."
    Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς


    So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty.  Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!


    Also visit:  Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?

      

    Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Also visit: How many members are there in the Trinity?  There are 39+ Holy Figures.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
    hebrew_2.gif (3861 bytes)

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

      

      

    Jesus is the resurrection (John 11:25), but yet does not know when the Hour of the resurrection will come (Matthew 24:36) [1], and he had to cry, weep and beg GOD to resurrect Lazarus back to life.  And this proves he is our Creator?  And how is he exactly The Resurrection?  Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own?  This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols.  All are helpless.  All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

    In the OT, Elisha and many others also raised the dead:

    2 Kings 4
    32 Elisha arrived at the woman’s house and went straight to his room, where he saw the boy’s body on his bed.
    33 He walked in, shut the door, and prayed to the Lord.
    34 Then he got on the bed and stretched out over the
    dead body, with his mouth on the boy’s mouth, his eyes on his eyes, and his hand on his hands. As he lay there, the boy’s body became warm.
    35 Elisha got up and walked back and forth in the room, then he went back and leaned over the boy’s body. The boy sneezed seven times and opened his eyes.
    36 Elisha called out to Gehazi, “Have the boy’s mother come here.” Gehazi did, and when she was at the door, Elisha said, “You can take your son.”
    37 She came in and bowed down at Elisha’s feet. Then she picked up her son and left.

    Is Elisha and others like him now our Creator?

      



    John 5:30
     "I cannot do anything on my own."
      (i.e., I am totally powerless.  In other verses, Jesus could not even perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).

    And Jesus could not determine (Mark 10:40) who gets to sit on his right and on his left in Heaven.  Only GOD alone decides this, Jesus said.  Visit also:

  • Bible's problematic hyperboles.  Jesus has, for example, caused Christians to eat pork, and they're now even the world's biggest pork consumers.  But a closer look at the text reveals that he never allowed it and could never even DARE to violate GOD Almighty by allowing it.
      
  • The last two chapters of the book of Isaiah make an End of Time Prophecy about the evil and immoral ones who will be pork (pig's meat) eaters.
      
  • The Bible has ample problems with its hyperbole and excessive confusing metaphoric language, to a point where we don't know what Jesus actually means, and it has made lawful things sinful and sinful things lawful.  Interestingly, people in the NT called Jesus a fat drunk, because they observed him drinking too much wine (alcohol) and eating too much.  He was a "gluttonous, and a winebibber" (Matthew 11:19, Luke 7:34) [1] [2].  This could've played a major role in the nonsensical language that he was uttering left and right.  Only Allah Almighty Knows best.
      
  • Ample more examples are given in the link above.
  •   

    Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)

    John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook,
    that we must
    convict Jesus

    Did GOD ever appear in a human form to anyone?

      


    Click on image to play video:



     
     
     

      


    Video: 1, 2.
    Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is
    mentioned countless times in his scriptures.  Also, Jesus was also called
    "SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of
    Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

    Matthew 7:22-23:  GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

    Quran declares all Bibles are corrupt.

    Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).  Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

    .


    Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity
    are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty.
    Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
    Click to play
    video clip.

    Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

    Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article.  According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament.  There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44).  Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text.  Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT.  It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty.  The Bibles are all corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran).  We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
      


    Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:


      

    How big was the first New Testament?

    The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet.  The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      


      
      

    Muslims honor the Virgin Birth:

    We Muslims believe in the virgin birth of Isa Al-Maseeh, from our mother Mariam, peace be upon them both.  We also believe Isa performed many Miracles.  In fact, it was the Christians who doubted the virgin birth.  Islam came to cement it.  But Isa (eesa) was nonetheless a creation of GOD Almighty, and a slave of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Even the Old Testament calls Jesus "Slave of GOD":

  • Islam cemented the virgin birth of Jesus!  Christians doubted it.  Christian scholars admit this.
      
  • Isa (Jesus), the Islamic Messiah and creation of Allah Almighty, is NOT our Creator:

     

  • Jesus, in the Bible, said he does not know when the Hour will come, only GOD alone Knows, Jesus said.
  • Jesus said if he bears witness of himself he would be a liar.
  • Jesus prostrated on his face and prayed and begged GOD all night long to save him from crucifixion.
  • Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.
  • Jesus was called slave of GOD in Old Testament.
  • If Jesus was GOD questions.
  • None of Jesus' Miracles were unique in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.
  • The Fly's Digestive Miracle - Mentioned in the Holy Quran and Confirmed by Science!
  • Is Jesus greater than Adam?  NT says no.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

      
      
  • Sun Chips Blasphemies:
      
    Jesus said
    Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son But the Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GOD Yes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah.  This is his special sonship.  He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2].  He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard.  He is also the heir of GOD on earth only.  That's the limit of his sonship.  Otherwise, it is sun chips!  There is nothing GODly about him.  He is not our Creator.  With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    See also:
      

  • Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran.  They are "....no more than servants raised to honor.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".
  • Oxymoron Trinity.
  • Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.
  • Again, could "Jesus" and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own?  This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols.  All are helpless.  All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.
      
      
    Sun Chips oxymoron:  The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

  •   

    What is Islam?

  • What is Islam?
  • How and Why do I convert to Islam?
  • How do I convert a non-Muslim to Islam?
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    Other:

  • www.answering-christianity.com/arabs_no_longer_jews_dogs.htm (according to Jesus)
  • www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm (Matthew 24:25-27: Jesus will return as an Arab from Syria)
      
      

      
      
  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses thoroughly destroy the trinity lie.
  •   


    Note:  The (*) links below are html backups of the website's blog topic threads, in case the blog and its database are down.

      

    From: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm:

    1 John 2:22-23 [1] church-written lie are discussed further down in details in this table.  Ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathers.
      
      

  • God in the OT addresses people as "my son" and describes them as his begotten son.  Why does God use these terms with others in the time of Moses and Jesus and Abraham and other prophets, and now condemns these tittles in the Quran?  Why would God give room to misuse these terms like the Greek and Romans did?
      
  • What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?

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    Son of GOD definition:

    From www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#permission:


    Trinitarians:  Jesus is our Creator.
    Jesus:  Why are you thinking such evil things?

    Matthew 9:3-4 (CEV)
    3 Some teachers of the Law of Moses said to themselves, "Jesus must think he is God!"
    4 But Jesus knew what was in their minds, and he said,
    "Why are you thinking such
    evil things?

    Mark 10:18 ""Why do you call me good ἀγαθόν (agathon)?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."
    Good = agathon ἀγαθόν, agathos ἀγαθὸς


    So from people who opposed and followed Jesus, some from both sides thought he was claiming to be GOD Almighty.  Jesus absolutely rejected this blasphemy and misunderstanding!


    Also visit:  Jesus had no Divine Will according to the New Testament. How could he be our Creator?

      

    Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Also visit: How many members are there in the Trinity?  There are 39+ Holy Figures.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
    hebrew_2.gif (3861 bytes)

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

      

      

      

    We read in the Bible that Prophets are servants and Jesus is the Son (Matthew 21:33-46).  Jesus is more than a Rasul (Prophet).  Jesus was also called Abd (slave) of GOD throughout the Old Testament, as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him) Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion.  Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits).  Jesus being King of kings means that he is the King of his Mansion's twelve thrones.

  • King of kings for Jesus does not refer to the corrupt earthly kings and thieves.  They were offered to Jesus before during his temptation by satan, and Jesus ultimately refused them all.  Jesus is the king of the twelve thrones inside his Mansion.  Other people in the OT were called King of kings also.  So the title is not even unique to Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
      
      

      

    Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]

      
    Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1,*] [2] [3].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:


    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

        
    (Click to play videos)

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

    Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)"

    Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings.  He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son").  The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one".  Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON.  He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS.  The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one.  See the ample verses and analysis in the video. 

    Please also visit: The definition of "Son of God" in Islam.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew
          
    Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

     


      

  • In the Bible, "the Son" refers to the Messiah, - the Ultimate Messenger to the Jews.  Son in their time meant Servant of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Allah Almighty also explained it precisely like this in the Glorious Quran: "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm

    This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm

    Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."

  • Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran?  Yes.  Here are several Noble Verses that do support it.  Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
      
  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses prove trinity is false.  Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty.  His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]
      
  • Except GOD Alone!  Jesus rejected ἀγαθόνJesus forbade anyone from calling him ἀγαθόν.  He said it is only for the Supreme GOD Almighty.
  •   

    And other great figures in the Old Testament were also called:

    1-  GOD (El) of other people.
    2-  Son of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .
    3-  Begotten Son of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
    4-  GOD's First Born.
    5-  GOD's Heir and Heirs (for believers).
    6-  GODly name with Yahweh and El attached to the name.
    7-  King of Kings (called by Yahweh Himself in the OT).
    8-  All believers are GODs (Elohim) and Sons of GOD (Beni Elohim).
      

    Is Jesus "God's Son" or "God's Servant (SLAVE)?" [1]

    King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

    New King James Version
    Acts 3:25 - You are the sons of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying to Abraham, 'And in your seed all the families of the earth shall be blessed.

    Acts 3:26 - To you first, God, having raised up His Servant Jesus, sent Him to bless you, in turning every one of you away from his iniquities.

    "Servant" here is slave.  Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) in the OT [2], the
    same word used for the Jews' slaves, and all slaves in general, throughout
    the Bible [
    2].  Jesus, the abd of GOD, is also the slave of GOD in the NT.

    In Arabic also it's the same.  My name Osama Abdallah, which means
    Osama slave of Allah (GOD).  Slave is a subject of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  A servant is
    independent.  A servant provides services.  He/she can quit serving
    without consequences and can even kick you out of their territory.  But
    a slave (ABD) is totally OWNED.

      

    I elaborated on this point in details at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/godtitle.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm#king_of_kings_lie
    www.answering-christianity.com/trinity_crucified.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm

    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm

    Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you..."

    The Servants are the Prophets of Israel.  But Jesus is "the Son" because he is the Messiah, the highest Jew and highest Jewish Prophet.  Jesus' rule is only limited to his Mansion.  Jesus also said that this Mansion is ruled by twelve Thrones (also called them 12 Fruits).  Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son (Matthew 21:33-46).  Jesus is only the Lord of the Jews' Mansion.

    Is the metaphoric Son of GOD title supported in the Glorious Quran?  Yes.  Here are several Noble Verses that do support it.  Was even used for both followers of satan and GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

      

    Jesus was called ABD (SLAVE) of GOD:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

    John 1:1:

    John 1:1 answered from the Glorious Quran Includes a Scientific Miracle in the Glorious Quran.

    John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God
    was with authority (same Greek word for satan's rule [ [1] [2] [3])
    ."

      

    The Word encompasses Jesus:

    From www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2884.msg13839.html#msg13839:

    From brother Shaad:

    The Logos and Jesus are differentiated in Revelation.....

    Revelation 20:4 King James Version (KJV)

    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the ;witness of Jesus, and for the word of God...

    Revelation 1:2

    2 who testifies to everything he saw—that is, the word of God and the testimony of Jesus Christ


    Jazaka Allah Khayr, dear brother Shaad.  I took the liberty to add the emphasis to your text, akhi.  Indeed, the Word of GOD Almighty ENCOMPASSES Jesuss, because he was made/created from it; exactly as Islam declares.

    Trinity is false.  I have added your addition to:

    www.answering-christianity.com/word_of_god.htm

    take care, Osama Abdallah

      

    Messiah definition:

    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_of_maseeh_in_quran.htm

      

    Also visit:   

  • Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:
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    Click to play video [1].  Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
     earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

    Jonah was alive:  But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal.  He was alive on the shore,
    alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. 
    Alive, alive, alive!

    This Prophecy is a lie! Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
    left.  He was
    never inside any coffin nor ever got buried.  Also, because 100s
    of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
    Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down.  The soldiers were
    even denied food due to lack of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
    Jesus never got crucified: [1] [2] [3] [4].  The OT and NT clearly spell it out.  He was saved.

    Matthew 27:16-17:  There were two Jesuses!  Not one.  Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
      
    [004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
    [004:157]
    That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
    [004:158]
    Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
      

    Divine Setup for Conjecture:

    Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

    "... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)

      

    The two double-Jesus men & Pontus Pilate in Matthew 27:16-17:

    According to the Gospel of Matthew, Pontus Pilate was standing between two double-Jesus men:

    1-  Jesus Barabbas.
    2-  Jesus Barabbas.

    "...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion.  Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)

    Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.

      

    Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
      

    At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
    this debate and destroyed Christianity!
      
    This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
    Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
    the Bible's New Testament
    that Jesus Christ was never
    crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead.  This 3-hour
    debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
      
      

      
    Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die.  Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91.  Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
      
    Here is my shortened version videoDr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones.  But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video.  See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog.  You're welcomed to join in.

      

    Christianity's Salvation Lie:

    Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1].  Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa , the real Messiah.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  Notice here Jesus' statements:

    Matthew 9
    12 Jesus heard them and answered, "Healthy people don't need a doctor, but sick people do.
    13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to
    be merciful to others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).' I didn't come to invite good people to be my followers. I only came to invite sinners."

    Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

    Being Merciful to others makes you a good person.  And Jesus didn't come for you if you are.  Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people.  They're already saved.  They need no invitation.  The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.  In fact, both the OT and NT in many passages confirmed that GOD Almighty will save his Messiah from crucifixion and from death and harm.

      

     Matthew 9:12-13  I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.

     

     

      
    Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:

      
    Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:

    1-  He was assigned a grave.  This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave.  He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left.  He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.

    2-  He was pierced for our sins.  No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our" (Jews only) sins and transgressions.  If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin.  Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression.  Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.

    Also visit:

    John 11:50:  It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus

      

    Early Church Fathers:  Jesus never died for anyone's sins!

    Sam Shamoun:  The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin!  Shamoun is
    realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical
    Christianity is.  They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.

    Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross
    BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM.
    Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm

    Also see proofs from OT and NT that Jesus transformed himself into lying spirit by GOD's Command to forge Christianity.  GOD Almighty in the OT has Commanded it before:

    www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm


    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

      

    3-  In his death.  It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death.  It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed.  Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Luke 6:12, Matthew 26:36-44, Matthew 16:39, Matthew 6:5-8) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt.  all hurt.

      
      

    Lies about Psalm 91:13:

    Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:

    Psalm 91:13
    You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.

    They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross.  Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death.  They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.

      

    Response:

    But Psalm 91:14-16 refute this:

    14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.
    15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will
    rescue him and honor him.
    16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

    1-  Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a).  They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem.  I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.

    2-  Also, Jesus was never killed.  He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.

    3-  The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus.  The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.

    4-  Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him."  Clearly declares he will be saved from death.

      


    Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:

    5-  Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13:  If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said.  That's it.  Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable.  Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)It's a forgery.

      

    .........

    Visit section 2.a in the article.

      

    Also visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23:  GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

    Quran declares all Bibles are corrupt.

    Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).  Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

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    Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity
    are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty.
    Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
    Click to play
    video clip.

    Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

    Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article.  According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament.  There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44).  Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text.  Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT.  It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty.  The Bibles are all corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran).  We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
      


    Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:


      

    How big was the first New Testament?

    The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet.  The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      


      

    The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.

      

      

    Jesus' Original Name:

    Prophet Jesus' original name was Eesa, as this is also his Islamic name.  The article (Eesa) also gives ample Hebrew references and proofs.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  There is also a great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and preached in Arabic.  Not only that, but Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.  Islam's claims are very strongly supported.  See proofs below.

      

    Did early Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?

    Did the early believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth, Antioch, Rome and all other places?  Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews' Messiah and final Prophet.  In both the Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Ahmed was prophesied to come.  Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.  Also, see below the Dead Sea Scroll image.  The New Testament too predicts the coming of three:

    1.  Elijah.
    2.  The Messiah.
    3.  The Prophet.

    John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
      
        

  • John the Baptist calls Jesus a liar! (Matthew 11:1-6).

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    Roman massacres:

    So did the early believers preach the coming of Prophet Ahmed or Muhammad?  The answer is quite possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for them and not phase 1.  Jesus was the early believers' immediate Prophet, not Muhammad.  And all of the details that they had were about Jesus, not Muhammad.  It is also important to know that the following seven Roman Emperors have thoroughly burned all (burnt all) of the early believers' writings:

    1.  Nero (54-68)
    2.  Domitian (81-96)
    3.  Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
    4.  Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a point)
    5.  Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a point)
    6.  Trajanus Decius (249-251)
    7.  Valerian (253-260)

    Read all the details with references here.  Also visit: How big was the first New Testament?
      

    What we have today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were written 100 years to 300 years after Jesus' departure from this earth.  So, the current writings that we have are not original writings.  Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed trinity was invented [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Many lies had been fabricated after the original writings were all lost.  The Jews and Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  These were some of the original texts that survived.

    The early believers were expecting an Arabian Prophet.  The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      

    From Why Jews settled in Arabia section:


    Video and text are in the linked section above.

      

    Jesus also preached in Arabic:

    See the clear proofs in the following:

  • Proofs that early Christian believers' title was Muslims from the Jews' and Christians sources themselves.  Also, Greek wasn't even the first language in Palestine, nor was it even hardly spoken by the natives there.
      
  • Also, ample proofs that Jesus also spoke and preached in Arabic, and there were many early manuscripts written in Arabic that spoke about the coming of Prophet Muhammad in details.  Arabic is estimated to date back 8000 to 20000 years by non-Muslim researchers, and had always been the first language in the entire lands of the Middle East, North and Central Africa.
      
  • Prophet Muhammad in the Early Christians' writings.
      
  • Prophet Muhammad foretold, by the name, in the previous Scriptures.  We still have texts today and from the Bible itself and outside the Bible that tell about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and Islam as the Servant of GOD Almighty and the New Religion and Covenant of GOD Almighty, respectively.
      
  • Important:
      
    What is the definition of Messiah in the Quran?
    Jesus was created from the Word of GOD and filled with the Holy Spirit, according to Islam.
      
  • In the Bible, Muslims, Salamays, Mushlams, Mushlems, Mushlimana are the Believers' original title [1].  Islam came to restore the original Faith [1].
      

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    Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:
      
      


    Click on image to play video:



    (Clip also in this article)

      
    Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.  Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the Bible, and his prophetic Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed [1] [2].

      

      

    Father and Son Definitions:

    Definition of Key Terms (*) (a discussion between me and a Christian):

    1-  What does "The Father" really mean in the Bible?  How is it defined in Islam? (see point #5 below)  How does the Bible really define it?

    2-  What does "Son of GOD" really mean in the Bible? 

    3-  Jesus had to match Melchizedek in Miracles and Power, according to the New Testament.  See this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.  Jesus' Miracles and Miraculous Birth and Nature were given to him because he needed to be in according to Melchizedek.  He had to be “in according to Melchizedek” as the Bible specifically says.  See Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20 [2].

      

    Who is Melchizedek?

    According to the Bible, he was the Jews' highest priest who had "no father and no mother", and "no beginning and no end" (Genesis 14:18, Psalm 110:4, Hebrews 5:6-10, Hebrews 7:1-20) [2].  The Bible literally says that.  Jesus had to be similar and inline with him; another proof that Jesus being "God" doesn't mean he is the Creator of the Universe.

  • Is Jesus Allah Almighty for creating things in the Noble Quran?  And is he better than Prophet Muhammad for being a creator?  And is there a contradiction in the Noble Quran regarding idol gods not being able to create and Jesus Christ?  See the Books that Allah Almighty gave to certain powerful Beings to enable them to possess certain Powers and to do certain Miracles, including limited Creations.
      

  • Also again, see this text-debate (*) between me and a Christian.
      

  • 4-  Does the Bible say that Yahweh created Jesus Yes it does (*)

  • John 1:1
    "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God was with authority
    (same Greek word for satan's rule (*) [2] [3])."
      

  • Detailed discussion about Jesus' Will (*) with ample verses.
      

  • In Islam, there are three "Worlds" or Realms:

  • (a)-  GOD Almighty, who is not seen by anyone or anything, nor is like unto anyone or anything.

    (b)-  The World of Command, which is the invisible world of the Beings that were made by the Word and the Spirit.

    (c)-  The World of Creation, the flush and blood, dust and water physical world and Universes (plural).

    Also visit: Is the Noble Quran a Creator or Creation?

      

      

    1 John 2:22-23:

    1 John 2:22-23 is another church-written lie.  Again, ironically, the Bible's own theologians admit that 1 John contains forgeries by church fathersChristians often quote the following verses to prove that Islam is the Anti-Christ:
      

    1 John 2
    22  Who is a liar but he that denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
    23  No one who denies the Son has the Father; whoever acknowledges the Son has the Father also.

    Muslims firmly believe in the Messiah and his virgin birth miracle.  Islam cemented the virgin birth of Jesus belief after it was fading away.  Christians admit this.  Also, the Glorious Quran claims that sons of GOD title was used for servants raised to honor:  Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran.  They are "....no more than servants raised to honor.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

      

    "Messiah" is the sonship:

    Jesus said Prophets are Servants, Jesus is the Son Son here means he is the Messiah.  The Old Testament thoroughly calls Jesus the slave of GOD [1] and who also fears GODYes indeed, the Islamic Isa (eesa) is the Messiah.  This is his special sonship.  He is also the Lord of his Mansion, which has twelve thrones or fruits [2].  He is more than a mere Jewish Rasul (Prophet) in this regard.  He is also heir of GOD on earth only.  That's the limit of his sonship.  Otherwise, it is sun chips!  There is nothing GODly about him.  He is not our Creator.  With all of his glory and might, he still remains a mere abd (slave) of GOD [1] as all sons of GOD were also called slaves of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him) See also:
      
      

    1-  Sons of GOD in the Glorious Quran.  They are "....no more than servants raised to honor.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".

    2-  Oxymoron Trinity .

    3-  Jesus is the heir of GOD on earth only.

      

    Sun Chips blasphemies:

    The polytheist trinitarian pagans' oxymoron here is that they're making a sun chips out of Islam's Prophet-Isa's sacred Messiahship and special sonship ("no more than servants raised to honour") with their blasphemies of inflating him with hot air and making him the Creator of the Universe.

    Could Jesus and the disciples honestly even resurrect or create a fly on their own?  This is one of the Glorious Quran's challenges to the polytheists from mankind who insist on deifying flesh and blood, dust and water, and idols.  All are helpless.  All are worthless when compared to Allah Almighty.

    Did Jesus ever claim to be God? (8 minutes)

    John 11:50: It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook,
    that we must
    convict Jesus

    Did GOD ever appear in a human form to anyone?

      


    Click on image to play video:



     
     
     

      


    Video: 1, 2.
    Sam Shamoun, the trinitarian barfoon, forgot that "GOD IS ONE" is
    mentioned countless times in his scriptures.  Also, Jesus was also called
    "SLAVE OF GOD" in NT and OT. There is no Divine Son that is part of
    Allah Almighty. That's one of the several things Islam came to correct:

    www.answering-christianity.com/jesus_called_slave_in_bible.htm

      

    Matthew 7:22-23:  GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

    Quran declares all Bibles are corrupt.

    Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).  Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

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    5-  What does the Glorious Quran say about the “Father” and “Son” titles:

  • The Quran is against the exaggerated and inflated meanings of the words, which ultimately the polytheistic religion of trinity was born out of.
      

  • Allah Almighty Said: "And they say: "(God) Most Gracious has begotten offspring." Glory to Him! they are (but) servants raised to honour (The Noble Quran, 21:26)"
      

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2141.msg9505#msg9505:

      

    The Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We":
      

    .......

    In regards to your question, there are two legitimate answers for it:
      
    1-  GOD Almighty can and does refer to Himself as WE and I.  So the plural We can and does refer to Allah Almighty Alone.
      
    2-  In Allah Almighty's Realm, there are the People of Allah.  Even our Hadiths call them  أهل الله .

  • Go to www.google.com , and search for  إن لله - تعالى - من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟ قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله وخاصته
      
  • The Hadith in Arabic translates as:
      
    Allah Almighty has AHLEEN (families) أهلين from mankind.  They asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?"  He said: They are the People of the Quran; the Family/People of GOD أهل الله , and they are His Special Ones خاصته.";
      

      
  • This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26))".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm (The definition of "Son of God" in Islam)
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses prove trinity is false.  Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty.  His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]
  • "....servants raised to honour. 

      

    Iblis, who later became satan, used to be from AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah) when he was a pious Servant.  /span> But because he and his followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF GOD Almighty:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm
      
    So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants that HE spoke with directly and Commanded directly.  But even in that ca/span>se, the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone (the Majestic We), because Allah Almighty is the
     One and Only Decision Maker, and there is none other besides Him.
      
    I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
      
    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      
      

  • So people did call each others “Son” and “Daughter” of “GOD”. But in all reality, they are no more than Servants of GOD raised to honor.
          

  • Here are some Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON": 
      

  • Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى): See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.
      
  • In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian".  المولى is derived from the root word ولي  .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty.
      
  • FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا).  We further read the following in the Bibles:

    Isaiah 41:8/font> "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7 Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23 And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.
      
  • So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:
      
    [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.
      
    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!
      
    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).
      
  • So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:
    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.
      
  • Also, BEGET = CHOSE.
      
  • King James Bible Psalm 2:7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
      
  • Allah Almighty used اصطفاك اصطفيتك يصطفي اصطفى اصطفينا to mean to Choose a Servant in Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 in the Glorious Quran.
      
  • So clearly Islam is in harmony with GOD Almighty being our:

    -  Guardian
    -  Friend
    -  Protector
    -  And the One who Chose us.
      
  • And we definitely believe that Isa (Jesus) is the Messiah.
      
  • One last important point:  Nowhere in the Bible is Jesus ever called "from the Seed of GOD" or "the Seed of GOD".  We do have "Jesus is from the seed of David" (Psalm 132:10-11, Romans 1:3)But never from GOD!
      
  • GOD has no seed according to both the Bible and the Quran.
      
  • Therefore, the claim that Islam is the Anti-Christ is false.
  •  

    So, is Islam the anti-Christ system according to 1john 2:22 No it isn't.  Here are some Quran and Bible facts regarding "FATHER" and "SON" in more details:

    (a)-  Allah Almighty is the Believers' only Guardian (المولى):

  • See Noble Verses 8:40, 22:13, 22:78.  In Arabic we say ولي الأمر , which means "The Legal Guardian".  المولى is derived from the root word ولي  .ولي also means a chosen friend to Allah Almighty, as in the following point.   

  • (b)-  FRIENDS = SONS in the Bible and Quran (ولي , وليهما and خليلا):

    We further read the following in the Bibles:

    Isaiah 41:8
    "But you, Israel, my servant, Jacob, whom I have chosen, you descendants of Abraham my friend,

    Chronicles 20:7
    Our God, did you not drive out the inhabitants of this land before your people Israel and give it forever to the descendants of Abraham your friend?

    James 2:23
    And the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness," and he was called God's friend.

    So being GOD Almighty's "SON" in the Bible is equal to being GOD Almighty's "FRIEND".  Now compare this to the following from the Holy Quran:

    [002:257] Allah is the friend (ولي) and patron of those who believe. He brings them out of the depths of darkness into light. While those who do not believe, have the forces of evil as their friends; they lead them out of light, into the very depths of darkness. Such ones shall be the inmates of the fire. They will stay there forever.

    [003:122] (And remember) when the two groups among you lost heart (and almost fell out), even though Allah was their Friend and Protector (وليهما)? In Allah (alone), should the believers place their trust!

    [004:125] Who can be better in religion than one who submits his whole self to God, does good, and follows the way of Abraham the true in Faith? For God did take Abraham for a friend (خليلا).

    So the Bible's "FATHER" & "SON" for GOD Almighty and the Believers is clearly metaphoric, and it only means that GOD Almighty:

    1-  Is the Protector.
    2-  Is the Friend.
    3-  Is the Guardian.

    Please visit the following link to further see what Words the Glorious Quran uses for these words and definitions:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203     (backup)

      
    (c)-  BEGET = CHOSE:

    Regarding the following verse, and many others like it:

    King James Bible Psalm 2:7
    I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

    Let us look at Noble Verses 27:59, 3:33, 3:42, 7:144, 22:75, 35:32, 38:47, 39:4 from the Glorious Quran:

    [027:059] Say: Praise be to God, and Peace on his servants whom He has chosen اصطفى (for his Message). (Who) is better?- God or the false gods they associate (with Him)?

    ‏27:59 قل الحمد لله وسلام على عباده الذين اصطفى ءالله خير اما يشركون

    [003:033] God did choose اصطفى Adam and Noah, the family of Abraham, and the family of 'Imran above all people,-

    ‏3:33 ان الله اصطفى ادم ونوحا وال ابراهيم وال عمران على العالمين

    [003:042] Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! God hath chosen thee اصطفاك and purified thee- chosen thee above the women of all nations.

    ‏3:42 واذ قالت الملائكة يامريم ان الله اصطفاك وطهرك واصطفاك على نساء العالمين

    [007:144] (God) said: "O Moses! I have chosen thee اصطفيتك above (other) men, by the mission I (have given thee) and the words I (have spoken to thee): take then the (revelation) which I give thee, and be of those who give thanks."

    ‏7:144 قال ياموسى اني اصطفيتك على الناس برسالاتي وبكلامي فخذ ما اتيتك وكن من الشاكرين

    [022:075] God chooses يصطفي messengers from angels and from men for God is He Who hears and sees (all things).

    ‏22:75 الله يصطفي من الملائكة رسلا ومن الناس ان الله سميع بصير

    [035:032] Then We have given the Book for inheritance to such of Our Servants as We have chosen اصطفينا: but there are among them some who wrong their own souls; some who follow a middle course; and some who are, by God's leave, foremost in good deeds; that is the highest Grace.

    ‏35:32 ثم اورثنا الكتاب الذين اصطفينا من عبادنا فمنهم ظالم لنفسه ومنهم مقتصد ومنهم سابق بالخيرات باذن الله ذلك هو الفضل الكبير

    [038:047] They were, in Our sight, truly, of the company of the Elect المصطفين and the Good.

    ‏38:47 وانهم عندنا لمن المصطفين الاخيار

    [039:004] Had God wished to take to Himself an (actual) son, He could have chosen لاصطفى whom He pleased out of those whom He doth create: but Glory be to Him! (He is above such things.) He is God, the One, the Irresistible.

    ‏39:4 لو اراد الله ان يتخذ ولدا لاصطفى مما يخلق مايشاء سبحانه هو الله الواحد القهار

    Furthermore, when Jesus was asked about when the Hour will come, he replied by saying that only GOD Almighty Knows, and that no one knows, and that Jesus himself also didn't know.  Please visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/questions.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links

  • Trinity Crucified!  100s of verses prove trinity is false.  Jesus healed others only after getting permissions from GOD Almighty.  His wishes were sometimes denied. [1] [2]

  •   

    Jesus spelled it out clearly that he knew NOT.  And as to calling GOD Almighty "Father", and that Islam denies that GOD Almighty is an ACTUAL FATHER to anyone, in Islam GOD Almighty is called:

    1-  Rab - Lord, Father (you are the Rab of your home for being the husband and the father).

    2-  Wali - Guardian.

    In the old Aramaic and Hebrew, GOD Almighty was called what-is-equivalent-to-Islam our Rab and Wali.  But that doesn't make GOD Almighty our actual Father.  This is exactly as Judaism metaphors such as idolatry is equivalent to spiritual adultery.  No Jew is actually married to GOD Almighty to actually commit a personal marriage-adultery against GOD Almighty!  Yet, the Jews use metaphors like these.  Islam came to straighten all of this out and to set the record straight that GOD Almighty has no son and no daughter.  Otherwise, why would GOD Almighty torture us to Hell if we were His perfect sons and daughters??  No imperfect being could be an actual son of GOD Almighty (and no being is the son or daughter of GOD Almighty, period!):

    [005:018] (Both) the Jews and the Christians say: "We are sons of God, and his beloved." Say: "Why then doth He punish you for your sins? Nay, ye are but men,- of the men he hath created: He forgiveth whom He pleaseth, and He punisheth whom He pleaseth: and to God belongeth the dominion of the heavens and the earth, and all that is between: and unto Him is the final goal (of all)"

    Again, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1368.msg5203.html#msg5203     (backup).

      

      

    The Romans had to fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues:

      


    Click to play video [1].  Matthew 12:40: "shall be buried deep in the heart of
     earth for 3 days and nights as Jonah was deep in the belly of the whale."

    Jonah was alive:  But Jonah was always alive in his ordeal.  He was alive on the shore,
    alive in the whale's belly, and alive when vomited out of the whale. 
    Alive, alive, alive!

    This Prophecy is a lie! Jesus laid on the floor, got healed, and got up and
    left.  He was
    never inside any coffin nor ever got buried.  Also, because 100s
    of thousands of pilgrims were coming to Jerusalem for the Passover, the
    Romans had to rush his "crucifixion" and bring him down.  The soldiers were
    even denied food due to lack of time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).
    Jesus never got crucified: [1] [2] [3] [4].  The OT and NT clearly spell it out.  He was saved.

    Matthew 27:16-17:  There were two Jesuses!  Not one.  Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:
      
    [004:156] That they rejected Faith; that they uttered against Mary a grave false charge;
    [004:157]
    That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Apostle of God";-but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not:-
    [004:158]
    Nay, God raised him up unto Himself; and God is Exalted in Power, Wise;-
      

    Divine Setup for Conjecture:

    Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

    "... but so it was made to appear to them..." (Quran 4:157)

      

    The two double-Jesus men & Pontus Pilate in Matthew 27:16-17:

    According to the Gospel of Matthew, Pontus Pilate was standing between two double-Jesus men:

    1-  Jesus Barabbas.
    2-  Jesus Barabbas.

    "...The Bibles' Christ was put on the cross for three hours. Any one of us would've survived this silly crucifixion.  Your human body, when faced with death, can become 10+ times stronger, more resilient, more resistant and more stubborn than normal. This is what would enable you, for example, to lift an entire truck with your bare hands if your precious child was under it. Similarly, if you were put on the cross for three silly hours, your body would've survived it. A soldier was placed on the cross for 63 hours and still lived to tell the world about it." (Source)

    Again, a Divine Setup for Conjecture.

      

    Was Jesus Christ Crucified?
      

    At hour 1:00:00 - 1:25:00, Dr. Zakir Naik really sealed
    this debate and destroyed Christianity!
      
    This is yet another wonderful 3-hour debate and video by
    Dr. Zakir Naik where he thoroughly demonstrated from
    the Bible's New Testament
    that Jesus Christ was never
    crucified, nor did he ever rise from the dead.  This 3-hour
    debate was between Dr. Zakir Naik and Pastor Rukni.
      
      

      
    Psalm 91 promises Jesus will never get hurt or die.  Satan in the NT challenged Jesus on Psalm 91.  Yashua (salvation) is the last word in Psalm 91, and it also happens to be one of Jesus' names in the New Testament.
      
    Here is my shortened version videoDr. Naik also provided many more verses than the following ones.  But the following verses and points were from my shortened version video.  See also this text-debate [2] between me and a Christian brother on my blog.  You're welcomed to join in.

      

    Christianity's Salvation Lie:

    Because Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus, the Church and Christians had developed and invented the crucifixion lie and its requirement to save a person from Hell (by him believing in it), which had been thoroughly proven from both the Bible and the Glorious Quran, to be a fabricated lie [1].  Salvation verses like John 3:16 and others are all forgeries that were invented by liars 100s of years after the real Eesa , the real Messiah.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  Notice here Jesus' statements:

    Matthew 9
    12 Jesus heard them and answered, "Healthy people don't need a doctor, but sick people do.
    13 Go and learn what the Scriptures mean when they say, ‘Instead of offering sacrifices to me, I want you to
    be merciful to others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).' I didn't come to invite good people to be my followers. I only came to invite sinners."

    Matthew 5:7 Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

    Being Merciful to others makes you a good person.  And Jesus didn't come for you if you are.  Jesus didn't come to invite merciful and good people.  They're already saved.  They need no invitation.  The Christian lie about one must accept that Jesus died on the cross for his/her sins is mandatory for their salvation, and that otherwise they'd be doomed to Hell is thoroughly destroyed in Matthew 9:12-13.  In fact, both the OT and NT in many passages confirmed that GOD Almighty will save his Messiah from crucifixion and from death and harm.

      

     Matthew 9:12-13  I have not come for you if you're a merciful Jew.

     

     

      
    Three Isaiah 53 translation lies:

      
    Three lies in translations of Isaiah 53, as further elaborated below in this table, that need to be clarified:

    1-  He was assigned a grave.  This doesn't mean he was buried in it, because Jesus was never buried in any grave.  He laid on the floor inside a tomb (cave-like structure), got healed and got up and left.  He was never inside any coffin nor ever got buried inside the earth.

    2-  He was pierced for our sins.  No, he was hurt (the word is not pierced or stabbed) because of "our" (Jews only) sins and transgressions.  If you drive with your family and get hit by a drunk driver and your baby ends up getting killed, your baby didn't die for his sin.  Your baby died BECAUSE of his sin and transgression.  Otherwise, you would not have driven on the same road that day if you knew the future.

    Also visit:

    John 11:50:  It is expedient, whether through hook or by crook, that we must convict Jesus

      

    Early Church Fathers:  Jesus never died for anyone's sins!

    Sam Shamoun:  The early fathers declared Jesus never died for any sin!  Shamoun is
    realizing how full of forged lies & conjecture his historical
    Christianity is.  They declared that Jesus never bore (carried) any sin for anyone on the cross.

    Jesus never died for anyone's sins! He was placed on the cross
    BECAUSE of (not for) the Jews' sins, and Allah Almighty SAVED HIM.
    Read the detailed analysis on Isaiah 53, Psalm 91 and others at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm

    Also see proofs from OT and NT that Jesus transformed himself into lying spirit by GOD's Command to forge Christianity.  GOD Almighty in the OT has Commanded it before:

    www.answering-christianity.com/spirit.htm


    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

      

    3-  In his death.  It is talking about his sentencing to death and not actual death.  It is also symbolic, because Jesus didn't even stay for 3 hours on the cross (2.a) and was never killed.  Plus, Jesus begged GOD (Luke 6:12, Matthew 26:36-44, Matthew 16:39, Matthew 6:5-8) all night to save him from crucifixion and all hurt.  all hurt.

      
      

    Lies about Psalm 91:13:

    Some polytheist trinitarian pagans say that Psalm 91:13 proves that Jesus was never crucified:

    Psalm 91:13
    You will tread on the lion and the adder, the young lion and the serpent you will trample under foot.

    They say that Jesus treading (stomping on) the lion and the snake means that he defeated satan via the cross.  Satan is called both lion and snake. So Jesus stomped on him by getting crucified (killed on the cross) and resurrecting from death.  They also say the NT books such as Matthew and Luke that quote Psalm 91 for Jesus both claim that Jesus was killed on the cross.

      

    Response:

    But Psalm 91:14-16 refute this:

    14 Because he cleaves to me in love, I will deliver him; I will protect him, because he knows my name.
    15 When he calls to me, I will answer him; I will be with him in trouble, I will
    rescue him and honor him.
    16 With long life I will satisfy him, and show him my salvation.

    1-  Also, Jesus was only placed for 3 hours on the cross (2.a).  They had to pull the plug on crucifixion because the Passover was about to begin, where 1/2 million Jewish pilgrims were to shortly start pouring into Jerusalem.  I, Osama Abdallah, would have survived Jesus' crucifixion.

    2-  Also, Jesus was never killed.  He laid on the floor in the tomb, received medical treatment from the two Marys and other women, and then got up and left.

    3-  The books that say he was killed on the cross were written 200 to 400 years after Jesus.  The majority of Christian historians and theologians claim this.

    4-  Psalm 91:15"...I will be with him in trouble, I will rescue him and honor him."  Clearly declares he will be saved from death.

      


    Merciful Palestinian and Good Neighbor Parable:

    5-  Jesus said below in Luke 10:25-37, Matthew 9:12-13:  If you're merciful, a good neighbor like the Palestinian Samaritan in Luke 10:33, and above all, GOD-Fearing (OT says Jesus was a slave of GOD and GOD-Fearing), then you have nothing to fear. "Do this, and you will live" Jesus said.  That's it.  Jesus even used good Palestinians in his parable.  Dying on the cross is a developed Christian lie centuries after Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)It's a forgery.

      

    .........

    Visit section 2.a in the article.

      

    Also visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23:  GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

    Quran declares all Bibles are corrupt.

    Oxymoron Trinity (100+ verses).  Bibles: Jesus will slaughter 100s of millions when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

    .


    Sam Shamoun declares that the bibles and trinity
    are man-made and are not from the living Word of GOD Almighty.
    Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.
    Click to play
    video clip.

    Quran: Bibles are mostly corrupt.

    Noble Verses 5:44-49 are thoroughly unpacked in this article.  According to the Glorious Quran, there is nothing called new testament, or bible or even old testament.  There is the Thikr of Moses, which contains the Wasaya (Commandments, which are the 600+ Law Commandments), which the Prophets before Prophet Muhammad and Islam "the prophets did judge by it" (5:44).  Even in the bibles we find in Deuteronomy 4:2 and other places say that the Commandments (600+) must not be mixed with any other text.  Also, the Injeel or Injil is not the NT.  It is the direct commands of Prophet Eesa (not Jesus), in which he mostly gave beautiful Commandments of Mercy, Compassion, Love, Fasting, Praying and Worshiping GOD Almighty Alone and associating no partners with Him, and also gave glad tidings about the coming of Prophet Muhammad and the new Covenant of Allah Almighty.  The Bibles are all corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them and upon all of the Prophets and Messengers of Allah Almighty (Not even Jesus was given the Book according to the Glorious Quran).  We also read in Noble Verses 5:46-49:
      


    Sam Shamoun declares 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries:


      

    How big was the first New Testament?

    The early believers were also expecting an Arabian Prophet.  The OT thoroughly talks about him and his new Covenant coming from Kedar in Arabia, and the NT talks about him coming after the Messiah:

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      


      

    The Bibles are all corrupt. The Glorious Quran also declares them all to be corrupt.  The Glorious Quran also confirms the Messiah, Eesa (not Jesus) and his virgin mother, Marium (not Mary), peace be upon both of them.

      

      

      

    6- 

      

    Allah is the GOD of the Bibles: [1]

      
    Did you know that Elohim is Allah [1, *] [2] [3].  The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty.  The root Word is "Eloh".  And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im.  And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah.  Jews do call Him: Allah-im.  Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah.  See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs.  Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah".  So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh.  It is Allah!  Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway.  Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew.  And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician.  See the following links:


    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

               
           (Click to play videos)

    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

           Daniel 3:26 in Aramaic says "Servants of Allah (GOD Most High GOD)"

    Sam Shamoun showed where portions of his OT is mixed between Hebrew and Aramaic writings.  He also unintentionally proved that the Hebrew "ben" (son) is not the same as the Aramaic "bar" (wrongly gets translated as "son").  The correct and accurate translation is for "bar" is "the chosen pious one".  Again, Allah Almighty has NO DIVINE SON.  He considers the pious chosen ones as close BARS.  The Aramaic and Arabic are the same in this one.  See the ample verses and analysis in the video. 

    Please also visit: The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenician_alphabet
           https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_Hebrew
          
           Yahweh is Baal to the Jews in Isaiah 54:5 and Hosea 2:16. Exposing the Christians' pagan-god Baal lie.

      

      

    6-  The Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles!

    There are many STUNNING Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran that testify to the Divinity of the Glorious Quran.  The following are small examples from many tens (10s) of Miracles:

    1-  Did you know that the Glorious Quran declares that the earth is:

  • Spherical.
  • Suspended in Space.
  • Traveling in Space.
  • Revolves around itself, or its own axle?
      
  • Also, all celestial bodies are يعرجون Yaa'rujoon (traveling in orbits [2] [3] [4] [5]) in space.  This video is about Noble Verses 32:5, 34:2, 57:4, 70:3-4 and others, and the Arabic words عرج , عروج , معارج  and  معراج  that all refer to "going in an orbital and curvy path" in the Glorious Quran and our Islamic Texts.
      
      

      

    The sun never ceases nor disappears [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]:


    (Play video file: [1] [2])

    Prophet Muhammad: The sun is in constant orbit always rising on people while setting on others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).

    عن ابن عباس رضي الله عنهما ان رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم سئل :هذه المغارب اين تغرب ؟ وهذه المطالع اين تطلع ؟ فقال صلى الله عليه وسلم هي على رسلها لا تبرح ولا تزول , تغرب عن قوم وتطلع على قوم ,وتغرب عن قوم وتطلع , فقوم يقولون غربت ,وقوم يقولون طلعت

    "Ibn Abbas narrated on Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, that the Prophet was asked: Where does the sun go after all of these sunsets? And where does it come from after all of these sunrises? The Prophet, peace be upon him, replied: It is in constant motion. It doesn't stop nor disappear. It sets on people and rises on others, and it sets on people and rises on others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust). So people would say it has risen while others say it has set."

    Sources:

    1- Jami'a Al-Usool li-ibn Al-Atheer.
    جامع الأصول لابن الأثير

    2- Musnad Al-Imam Abi Is'haq Al-Hamadani
    مسند الامام ابي اسحاق الهمداني

    3- Al-Ijaz Al-Ilmi Fe Al-Sunna Al-Nabawiyyah, Dr. Zahloul Al-Najjar, Page 132.
      

    Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:

           -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
           -  Is rotating around itself.
           -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
           -  Is in constant motion.
           -  Is suspended in space.
           -  Is swimming in space.
           -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
           -  The sunsetless North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran [4]. 

  • At the top of the North Pole, the sun never sets [4], and I showed the video for that, and also quoted the scientific sources for that. Also in the lands near by, it almost never sets either, and I quoted sources for that as well, and also showed pictures of the "polar night" skies on these lands that are near the sunsetless North Pole.
      

    (Click to play clip by physicist, Brian Cox)

    They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says.  They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93).  Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly.  The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly.


         
  • He saw the Aurora Lights covering:

    Aurora Lights Hadith

      

  • Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:

    Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest! (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)


    Visit also:
    Islamic proof that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty when it is above Mecca.


      

    Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said this about his journey to the farthest northern lands and people:

    ‏18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر

    "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"

    Noble Verse(s) 18:91

    Rodwell:

    [018:091]  Thus it was. And we had full knowledge of the forces that were with him.

    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

    18:91 كذلك وقد احطنا بما لديه خبرا

       

    Prophet Muhammad "did see" (Quran 53.18) the Aurora Lights covering the horizons above the earth from space.  Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and "Thus it was", Allah Almighty completed the "full knowledge" regarding Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.  This further supports the story below about Dhil-Qarnayn's journey to the farthest northern lands and people (The sunsetless [4] North Pole Quran-miracle).  They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says.  They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93)For example, can you read or say this:


    "Vaðlaheiðarvegavinnuverkfærageymsluskúrslyklakippuhringurinn" ??  This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly.  The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly.  The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:


    The early Muslims believed that Dhil Qarnayn reached the people of the farthest norths of the earth.  The following is a map of Al-Sharif Al-Idrisi in year 1154 giving the geographic location of where Dhil Qarnayn went according to the understanding of the early Muslims of Noble Verses 18:83-100:



    Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"

    Dhil = One who has.
    قرنين Qarnayn = two horns
    Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn).
    Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.

      

    Noble Verses 53:18 and 18:91 are also prophetically linked together; that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين  saw.  Also visit: 

    Aurora Lights Hadith

      

    Other pronunciations to "Dhil Qarnayn"ذي القرنين  name:  Zul-qarnain, Dhul Qurnain, Dhu'l Qarnain, Zulqarnain, Dhu'l-Qarneyn, Dhu'lkarnein, Dhul-Qarnain, Dhu'l Qarnain, Dhool Karnain, Zul-Qarnain, Dhoulkarnain.

     
    (Video from NASA filming the Green Carpet Aurora Lights from space)

    Again, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:

    Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!" (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)


    Visit also:
    Islamic proof that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty when it is above Mecca.


           -  The Glorious Quran also speaks about many earths [5] and not just earth.
           -  The Glorious Quran predicts
    11 planets in our solar system [6].

      

    In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31).  The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors".  The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book.  It contains no scientific error.  Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:

    1-  The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

    www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm

      
      
    Question:

    Did Prophet Muhammad know think that the earth was spherical or flat?

    Answer:

    In this Hadith, above, he certainly seems to have known this fact very well.  And this Hadith is even older than Sahih Bukhari.  It is important to know that Imam Bukhari and others have declared that they have discarded thousands of Hadiths:

    www.islamic-awareness.org/Hadith/bukhari.html

  • "The two sahih collections did not gather the totality of the authentic ahadith as proved by al-Bukhari's testimony: "I have not included in my book al-Jami` but what is authentic, and I left out among the authentic for fear of [excessive] length."
      

  • "... Bukhari, collected twenty thousand of them, of which he rejected ten thousand, accounting them untrue. Of the remaining ten thousand he accepted only 7,275, declaring the rest to be untrustworthy. Abu Da'ud accepted as authentic only 4,800 rules out 50,000."

  •   
    This is to keep their volumes as simple and manageable as possible.  So it is quite possible that the Prophet spoke about the earth being spherical, and the Glorious Quran certainly did, and
    people just dismissed them as nonsense.  I have covered your question in great details at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm

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    2-  Did you know that the Glorious Quran has 1000s (thousands) of Numerical Notions that have yet to be fully made clear to us?  For example, here is just one Numerical Miracle from among hundreds that were already discovered:

  • The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, IF YOU ADD EACH CHAPTER # with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8. Do this for all Chapters.
      
     1-  The sum of the odd numbers from the list = 6555.
     2-  The sum of the even numbers from the list = 6236.
      
  • See the XLS file for 100% confirmation.
      
  • Dr. Zaghloul Al-najjar has proven the Speed of Light in the Glorious Quran: Time and the Speed of Light precisely calculated and mentioned in the Noble Quran.
      
    1. Speed of Light detailed article.
        
  • The Great Miracle, Part 2, Episode 10, by the Engineer Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي Translated to English by Osama Abdallah (me).  Allah Almighty Said that the Number 19 Sign is "One of the Greatest Miracles" (74:35) in the Noble Quran [1] [2]. This Miracle is thoroughly examined throughout this 30-Episode TV Program.  I am going to have it all translated into English in both Audio and Video, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  I will also translate the 653-page book that gave 100s of examples from the Glorious Quran's Numerical Miracles:
      

      
    Episodes of Program in Video: [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]...
    Episodes of Program in Audio: [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]...
      
      

    Disclaimer:  This article is not associated with the liar Rashad Khalifa, whose work has been proven to be erroneous, and his numbers don't add up, and his omission of two Quran-Verses is blasphemous.  The Miracles below are 100% confirmed, and are based on 100% of the Glorious Quran.

      
      

    The Great Miracle of Number 19 is thoroughly demonstrated:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran:

    [074:030]  Over it are Nineteen عليها تسعة عشر.
      
    [074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have
    fixed their number only وماجعلنا عدتهم الا  as (1) a trial for Unbelievers,- (2) in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, (3) and the Believers may increase in Faith,- (4) and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, (5) and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.
      
    [074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,
    [074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,
    [074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-
    [074:035] This is but one of the
    might ones (i.e., miracles)
    انها لاحدى الكبر.
    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-
    [074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-

    It is not only one of the Greatest Miracles, but it is also for those who want to press forward and advance Our Muslim Ummah should take a hard look at these Noble Verses.  And yes, prophet Nuh's (Noah) Surah in the Glorious Quran, and its STUNNING Miracle in Text and Number, makes it indeed the cornerstone [1] of this Great Miracle.  Allah Almighty also make his bloodline be the bloodline of prophets and kings.  Notice also:

    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-

    If the number 19 Miracle is trivial or irrelevant, or simply doesn't exist, then Allah Almighty would not have said it is a warning to mankind

    The scanned images that demonstrate the STUNNING Numerical Miracles of these Noble Verses, based on the newly discovered Numerical Law from Surat Nuh in the Glorious Quran, and 1000s others are listed below.
      

      

    19 X 115 Basmala Miracle:

    All Praise and Thanks and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone.  First of all, Allah Almighty said in the Holy Quran that the Number 19 Miracle is "One of the Mighty Ones" in Noble Verses 74:30-37.  Click this sub-section in this article for the text and details about the Noble Verses.  In the scanned images below, you will not only see that Noble Verses 74:30-37 are in perfect match with the Number 19 Miracle (2185 is their total numerical value and it is equal to 19 X 115) [1], but they're also in perfect match with the Glorious Quran's "Key Noble Verse", the Basmala, in both its total Numerical value, 115, and total number of Letters, which are 19 Letters.  See the scanned images, again, with 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article, listed below:

      
    The following images contain my calculations, which thoroughly verify the claim about Noble Verses
    74:30-37.  Their total numerical value is exactly 2185, which is equal to 19 X 115:

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  • Sections:
    -  More elaboration and proofs in the next section.
    -  Also, more images for other examples below.
      
  • The Quranic Law, which is thoroughly defined in the Glorious Quran, that differentiates between a "written letter" (also known as a "drawn letter") and a letter that is only a vowel, and defines the numerical value (see table) of the written letter, this Quranic Law is thoroughly laid out in Noble Chapter 71.  The Chapter is called Surat Nuh.  Nuh is Prophet Noah, peace be upon him.  Allah Almighty used this Noble Surah to determine what is a drawn letter and what is a vowel in all Noble Verses throughout the Glorious Quran.  Only the written letters have numerical values.  Vowels don't have numerical values.  See the following images.

      

    950 Years 950 Letters:

    Also, Allah Almighty Said in Noble Verse 29:14 that Prophet Nuh (Noah) lived for 950 years among his people.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah, Nuh (Noah, which is Surah 71), is exactly written in 950 Letters!  Once we counted the drawn letters, we found them to be exactly 950 letters.  You can see this in the scanned images that I produced with my own hand-written verification for each Noble Letter:

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    In the above images, you'll see some of the ALIF letter's combinations circled in red:

    (see table)
    ALIF letter combinations

    Also visit:  Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]

      

    The following examples are stunningly amazing:

  • Prophet Nuh's story with his people in 24 Noble Verses, which are 11:25-49.  These Noble Verses are in Surat Hud, which is Chapter 11 in the Holy Quran.  Except for one verse inside them that speaks directly to Prophet Muhammad, all other verses speak about Noah and his people.  What is STUNNINGLY MIRACULOUS about these Noble Verses is that the first set from Noble Verses 11:25 to 34, they have the total numerical value of 4,177.  Then Noble Verse 11:35, which is about Prophet Muhammad, has the total numerical value of 327.  Then Noble Verses 11:36-49 have the total numerical value of 6,159.  Therefore, 4177 + 6159 = 10,336, which is equal to 19 X 544.  In other words, the Noble Verses that only speak about Prophet Noah and his people have a total numerical value that is divisible by 19 without any remainder:
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  • Furthermore on Noble Verse 11:35, it starts with: "Or do they say, "Has he forged it"?" ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    When we take all of the Noble Verses (10:38, 11:13, 11:35, 32:3, 46:8) throughout the Glorious Quran that start with this exact phrase
    ام يقولون افتراه, we also find that their total numerical value is divisible by 19 without any remainder.  2470 = 19 X 130.  The following images give all of the details.  You can also see my hand-count in these images:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0277.jpg  (start from last verse in this image, the one that has the count of 478)

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    Click to enlarge:

      
    Verification from my website, www.QuranSearch.com.  Search for text:
    ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    Here is the link for the
    search result page.
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    19 X 19:

  • The Nooraniyyah Letters, or the Noorani Letters of the Holy Quran.  These are the opening Letters of several of the Noble Surahs (Chapters) that have hidden Divine meanings in them.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty Alone!  Now adding all of them together, using the main table's values, gave us a total that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder.  Not only that, but their total number is 361, which is equal to 19 X 19:
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    Does the Quran say the earth is sitting on an Angel-Whale?  Showing the difference between نون and ن.  The story of the nun (noon) whale and Prophet Jonah in the Quran.
      

  • Adding all of the numerical values of the Prophets' and Messengers' names that were mentioned in the Holy Quran also all add up to a number that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder:
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  • Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]
  •   
    Taking this standard for determining which is an actual written/drawn letter and which is only a vowel from all of the Glorious Quran's characters, and applying it to the entire Quran, we found literally THOUSANDS OF STUNNING EXAMPLES AND PATTERNS [1] and Miracles.  And building a numerical table that gives numerical values to the Drawn Letters from most occurring to the least (value 1 given to the most occurring drawn letter, value 2 given to the second most occurring one, and so on....), and applying these numerical values to calculate the numerical value of the Glorious Quran's Drawn Letters and Words, we found thousands of stunning numerical results [1].  And the Number 19 Miracle and the BASMALA and Noble Verses 74:30-37 give you an amazing demonstration of this Divine Miracle [1] [2] [3].

    The following points will clearly explain and demonstrate this Divine Miracle:

      
    1-  Allah Almighty has designed the Holy Quran's Text to be written in a certain complex form, and with great consistency throughout the Holy Quran's 114 Chapters, which are made of 6236 Noble Verses.  The following table shows each Noble Quran Letter's numerical value:

    www.answering-christianity.com/main_table.png

    Also, the following zip file contains thousands of the examples, from the thousands others that I have not yet been able to get to due to my busy schedule:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

      

    1-  Prophet Noah is the Miracle's Cornerstone:

    Prophet Noah (Nuh), peace be upon him, is the cornerstone of this number 19 Miracle.  It's based on him and his Holy Surah (chapter), Surat Nuh, in the Glorious Quran.  Read the detailed section about his 950 years that he lived, and his Surah written in exactly 950 letters in this article.

      

    2-  Bloodline of Prophets and Kings:

    The bloodline of Noah is the bloodline of Prophets and Kings:

    [007:069]  "Do ye wonder that there hath come to you a message from your Lord through a man of your own people, to warn you? call in remembrance that He made you inheritors after the people of Noah, and gave you a stature tall among the nations. Call in remembrance the benefits (ye have received) from God: that so ye may prosper."

    The bloodline of Noah, peace be upon him, was a blood line of Prophets and the chosen people of GOD Almighty.  And Allah Almighty made the Jews kings over people in status and closeness to Allah Almighty:

    [005:020]  Remember Moses said to his people: "O my people! Call in remembrance the favour of God unto you, when He produced prophets among you, made you kings, and gave you what He had not given to any other among the peoples.

    For more details, visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2575.msg12214.html#msg12214
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2575.msg12187.html#msg12187
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3101.msg15425.html#msg15425
    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,3266.msg16071.html#msg16071

    Prophet Noah, peace be upon him, is the cornerstone of this Noble Miracle.  Not the dajjal (liar) Rashad Khalifa [1] [2 backup][3].  Read detailed article below.

      

    3-  Also Covered:

    Also, "Fixed their number as a trial for unbelievers" وماجعلنا عدتهم الا فتنة للذين كفروا. and "What symbol doth God intend by this?" ماذا اراد الله بهذا مثلا are about the disbelievers, not the genuine believers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  I used other examples [5] [6] from the Glorious Quran to prove this.

    This Miracle is not based on the deceiver, Rashad Khalifa [3].  The STUNNING Numerical Miracles, below, are all based on the entire Glorious Quran, and on Prophet Noah being its cornerstone.

      

    4-  The Arab infidels can't deny it:

    Also, Usama Dakdok, voluntarily on his own, approached me and challenged me regarding the 950 Letters and Years Miracle, below.  Since he is fluent in Arabic, and even preaches his Bible also in Arabic, I repeatedly challenged him to show me from my uploaded images where there are errors in the counts.  He continued to be deceptive and ignore the Truth: [image1] [image2] [image3] [image4].  May all liars be doomed to Hell, because they purposefully lie and deceive the masses.  Ameen.

    Also, a detailed QA session [2].  This is not a deviant pro Rashad Khalifa website!  The Miracle is based on 100% of the Glorious Quran, and the article below is based on the work of brother, who is also a Civil Engineer, Adnan Al Refaei المهندس عدنان الرفاعي .  Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated below, in this article.

      

      

    Number of Years = Number of Letters:

    There is nothing random about the Glorious Quran's Words and their Letters.  As it is thoroughly demonstrated in the scanned images, when we for example see that Noble Surah (Chapter) Nuh (Noah) is written in exactly 950 Noble Letters [1], and Allah Almighty Said that Prophet Nuh lived among his people for 950 years in the same Noble Surah, then there is nothing random about this one.

    Not only that, but there are many other Numerical patterns discovered in the Glorious Quran that are linked to the number of years.  For example, Allah Almighty's two Divine Promises to the people of Israel's destruction were both combined written in 75 Words, and each Promise was written in 75 letters.  And the two sets of Noble Verses for the two Promises are after each others in the same Noble Surah 17:4-8.  So the first set of Noble Verses that speak about the first Promise, which already took place, were written in 75 Letters, and the second set of Noble Verses that speak about the future destruction were written also in 75 Letters:

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    Brother Adnan raised the following questions:

  • Could these Noble Verses be referring to the second destruction of Israel in 75 years after its establishment?
  • And if so, then would they be 75 years after 1948 or 1967?
  • Only Allah Almighty Alone Knows.  We are currently living some of ISLAM'S STUNNING PROPHECIES about Israel, the zionist machine, and their evil that is being spread throughout earth as exactly prophesied in the Glorious Quran:

    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/666.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/911_is_the_biggest_lie.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/walid_shoebat_islam_satan_rebuttal.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

    See also Daniel Prophecies about Israel and its map [2].  Daniel 11:45: "(the evil one) will establish his settlement between Mount Zion (Jerusalem) and the Mediterranean sea.  Then he will be destroyed, and no one will be able to save him."

    See also Isaiah's prophecy about the Jews will worship the pornographic goddess Asherah during the end of times.

      That is precisely Israel today!

      

    Similarly, when we look into the number 19 Miracle, which Allah Almighty called it "One of the  Mighty Ones" in Noble Verses 74:30-37, and we find out that It is indeed a MIGHTY MIRACLE, then there is nothing random about it either.  What brother Adnan Al Refaei المهندس عدنان الرفاعي did was he took the Arabic drawn alphabets, that are not vowels, and calculated how many times each letter occurred in the Glorious Quran, since the Glorious Quran's Letters are Miraculous, and there is nothing random about them as we've seen in the few examples above, and also in many more like them [1].  See images below.  Brother Adnan then built a numerical table where the highest occurring letter would have the value 1, and the second highest would carry the value 2, and so on.  He then started calculating the numerical values of the Noble Letters in the Glorious Quran and came up with these mighty discoveries.  Again, the table's link is:

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    This table in the link has more elaboration in it than the one brother, who also used to be an Engineer, Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي gave in his book on page 140, which is page 136 in the PDF file (If you see gibberish, then install these required fonts & instructionMy Sony Vaio laptop didn't require them.  My other older computers did.  The fonts on my Sony Vaio also seem a bit better than these ones.  So please only install them if you see gibberish).

    And again, the following zip file contains thousands of the examples, from the thousands others that I have not yet been able to get to due to my busy schedule:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

      

      

    The Number 19 Miracle:

    This Noble Miracle is not about bringing random numerical combinations' values and show that they're equal to other certain combinations.  Some tried to belittle this Noble Divine Miracle by bringing random combinations and said that they matched certain phrases in the Glorious Quran.  For example:

    "America is Great" "Allah is Great" Therefore, America is Divine?
    "Satan is evil" "Jesus is evil" Therefore, Jesus is evil?
    "Satan is good" "Muhammad is good" Therefore, satan is good?
    "Jesus" "Satanic" Therefore, Jesus is satanic?
    "Abraham" "GOD is One" Therefore, Abraham is GOD?
    "Prophets" "Prostitutes" Therefore, all Prophets were prostitutes?
    "Mary" "Liar" Therefore, Mary was a liar?
    "Moses" "Satanist" Therefore, Moses was a satanist?
    "GOD is Love" "Satan loves you" Therefore, GOD is satan?
    "GOD is Light" "Satan's darkness" Therefore, satan and GOD are both the same Light?
  • These are just hypothetical examples.  The values may not match.  But you get the point.  You could come up with any phrase that numerically has the same value as another phrase and claim that they have the same meaning.
      
  • But this is not how the Miracle works!  The way it works, with already 1,000s of confirmed examples [2 (fonts)], is as follows:

    The Noble Verses and Statements (Parts of Noble Verses that are specific to a specific point.  Some Noble Verses speak about multiple things), in the Holy Quran, that are correlating to each others, and are ones that collectively make up an entire case, - a full picture, - will have a total numerical value that is divisible by the number 19 without any remainder.  Thousands of examples [1] [2] already demonstrated this.  And Noble Verses 74:30-37, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, and in them Allah Almighty Said about this Noble Miracle that it is "One of the Greatest Ones" (74:35), are thoroughly demonstrated in the following images and tables.

    Again, in the following scanned images, you will not only see that Noble Verses 74:30-37 are in perfect match with the Number 19 Miracle (2185 is their total numerical value and it is equal to 19 X 115) [1], but they're also in perfect match with the Glorious Quran's "Key Noble Verse", the Basmala, in both its total Numerical value, 115, and total number of Letters, which are 19 Letters:

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  • More images for other examples below.
      
  • Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]
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    In the following Noble Verses 74:30-37, notice the following important points:

    1. Allah Almighty mentioned, in Noble Verses 74:30-37, that He based the Glorious Quran on the Number 19 Miracle for the following reasons:
        
      (a)-  As a trial to the disbelievers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
      (b)-  To help strengthen the Believers' faith more.
      (c)-  To assure the disbelievers that Islam is Divine.
      (d)-  Because it is one of the Greatest Signs and Miracles!
      (e)-  It is a warning to mankind, and especially for those who want to press forward and advance.
        

    2. And once again, GOD Almighty made the number 19 be the Noble Quran's Main Numerical Miracle.  He called it: "One of the Greatest Ones" in Chapter 74:35.

      

    Let's all read Noble Verses 74:30-37, and look at its scanned images:

    Read the Noble Verses for yourself to clearly see the points that I mentioned above:

    [074:030]  Over it are Nineteen عليها تسعة عشر.
      
    [074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; and We have
    fixed their number only وماجعلنا عدتهم الا  as (1) a trial for Unbelievers,- (2) in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, (3) and the Believers may increase in Faith,- (4) and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, (5) and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.
      
    [074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,
    [074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,
    [074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-
    [074:035] This is but one of the
    might ones (i.e., miracles)
    انها لاحدى الكبر.
    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-
    [074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-

      

    The scanned images  are below the following table.  Let us see the Noble Verses in English and Arabic:

    Noble Verse(s) 74:30-74:37
    Yusuf Ali:

    [074:030] Over it are Nineteen  عليها تسعة عشر.

    [074:031] And We have set none but angels as Guardians of the Fire; AND WE HAVE FIXED THEIR NUMBER ONLY وماجعلنا عدتهم الا as a trial for Unbelievers,- in order that the People of the Book may arrive at certainty, and the Believers may increase in Faith,- and that no doubts may be left for the People of the Book and the Believers, and that those in whose hearts is a disease and the Unbelievers may say, "What symbol doth God intend by this ?" Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth: and none can know the forces of thy Lord, except He and this is no other than awarning to mankind.

    [074:032] Nay, verily: By the Moon,

    [074:033] And by the Night as it retreateth,

    [074:034] And by the Dawn as it shineth forth,-

    [074:035] This is but one of the MIGHTY (portents) MIGHTY ONES (Miracles) انها لاحدى الكبر.

    [074:036] A warning to mankind,-

    [074:037] To any of you that chooses to press forward, or to follow behind;-

    Arabic (from right to left):

    Original Quran-Arabic:








    Limited Arabic for internet browsers:

    74:30
     عليها تسعة عشر

    74:31 وماجعلنا اصحاب النار الا ملائكة وماجعلنا عدتهم الا فتنة للذين كفروا ليستيقن الذين اوتوا الكتاب ويزداد الذين امنوا ايمانا ولايرتاب الذين اوتوا الكتاب والمؤمنون وليقول الذين في قلوبهم مرض والكافرون ماذا اراد الله بهذا مثلا كذلك يضل الله من يشاء ويهدي من يشاء ومايعلم جنود ربك الا هو وماهي الا ذكرى للبشر

    74:32 كلا والقمر

    74:33 والليل اذ ادبر

    74:34 والصبح اذا اسفر

    74:35 انها لاحدى الكبر

    74:36 نذيرا للبشر

    74:37 لمن شاء منكم ان يتقدم او يتاخر

      

    2-  The following examples are stunningly amazing:

  • The NOORANIYYAH Letters, or the Noorani Letters of the Holy Quran.  These are the opening Letters of several of the Noble Surahs (Chapters) that have hidden Divine meanings in them.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Allah Almighty Alone!  Now adding all of them together, using the main table's values, gave us a total that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder.  Not only that, but their total number is 361, which is equal to 19 X 19:
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    Does the Quran say the earth is sitting on an Angel-Whale?  Showing the difference between نون and ن.  The story of the nun (noon) whale and Prophet Jonah in the Quran.
      

  • Adding all of the numerical values of the Prophets' and Messengers' names that were mentioned in the Holy Quran also all add up to a number that is a multiple of the number 19 without any remainder:
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  • Prophet Nuh's story with his people in 24 Noble Verses, which are 11:25-49.  These Noble Verses are in Surat Hud, which is Chapter 11 in the Holy Quran.  Except for one verse inside them that speaks directly to Prophet Muhammad, all other verses speak about Noah and his people.  What is STUNNINGLY MIRACULOUS about these Noble Verses is that the first set from Noble Verses 11:25 to 34, they have the total numerical value of 4,177.  Then Noble Verse 11:35, which is about Prophet Muhammad, has the total numerical value of 327.  Then Noble Verses 11:36-49 have the total numerical value of 6,159.  Therefore, 4177 + 6159 = 10,336, which is equal to 19 X 544.  In other words, the Noble Verses that only speak about Prophet Noah and his people have a total numerical value that is divisible by 19 without any remainder:
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  • Prophet Noah (Nuh) is the cornerstone of the number 19 Miracle: [1] [2 html]
      
  • Furthermore on Noble Verse 11:35, it starts with: "Or do they say, "Has he forged it"?" ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    When we take all of the Noble Verses (10:38, 11:13, 11:35, 32:3, 46:8) throughout the Glorious Quran that start with this exact phrase
    ام يقولون افتراه, we also find that their total numerical value is divisible by 19 without any remainder.  2470 = 19 X 130.  The following images give all of the details.  You can also see my hand-count in these images:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book/Scan0277.jpg  (start from last verse in this image, the one that has the count of 478)

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    Click to enlarge:

      
    Verification from my website, www.QuranSearch.com.  Search for text:
    ام يقولون افتراه:
      

      
    Here is the link for the
    search result page.
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    There are many other examples that Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي gave in his book (Again, if you see gibberish, then install these required fonts & instructionMy Sony Vaio laptop didn't require them.  My other older computers did.  The fonts on my Sony Vaio also seem a bit better than these ones.  So please only install them if you see gibberish).

    Furthermore, the total numerical value of Noble Verses 74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115): 19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task:

    The following links are the original images from the PDF book of Noble Verses 74:30-37 and the Basmala.  Also, the link to the PDF book is in the following as well:

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    www.answering-christianity.com/page_144_basmala_is_quran_key.png
    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

    The following images contain my calculations, which thoroughly verify the claim about Noble Verses 74:30-37.  Their total numerical value is exactly 2185, which is equal to 19 X 115:

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    Again, the Holy Quran's Law that Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي discovered is as follows:

    (a)-  The Noble Verses and Statements (Parts of Noble Verses that are specific to a specific point.  Some Noble Verses speak about multiple things) of the Holy Quran that are correlating to each others, and are ones that collectively make up an entire case, - a full picture, - will have a total numerical value that is divisible by the number 19 without any remainder.

    (b)-  You can also watch The Great Miracle, Part 2, Episode 10, by the Engineer Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي.  Translated to English by Osama Abdallah (me).

    Episodes of Program in Video: [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]...
    Episodes of Program in Audio: [11] [12] [13] [14] [15]...

    Allah Almighty Said that the Number 19 Sign is "One of the Greatest Miracles" (74:35) in the Noble Quran. This Miracle is thoroughly examined throughout this TV Program.

    You can download this video, and all of the videos that are available on my website at: www.answering-christianity.com/free_downloads.htm.

      

    3-  Again, to clearly and thoroughly see the Number 19 Divine Miracle of the Holy Quran, you can see the 100s of images that I scanned and processed from Mr. Adnan Al Refaei [1] المهندس عدنان الرفاعي book, which is 653 pages long at:

    www.answering-christianity.com/the_great_miracle_book.zip

    I only processed 1/3 of the book so far.  But the examples that I provided give thorough demonstration and ample examples that demonstrate this Great Divine Miracle from the Glorious Quran.

      

    4-  Furthermore, Allah Almighty Promised and took it upon Himself to Perfectly Preserve the Holy Quran in both:

    (a)-  Text documentation and compilation.
    (b)-  Reading and Noble Words and Letters pronunciations.

    This is because the Holy Quran that we have here on earth is a copy of the One that is in the "Preserved Divine Tablet".  To see the ample Noble Verses that clearly prove this, please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

      

    The following is from: www.answering-christianity.com/quran.htm

    Also visit these posts with very important images and points:

      
    1-  Thorough studies on the Quran's Compilation by the "Islamic Awareness" website:

  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/Mss/
  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/
  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Text/
  • http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/
  •   
    2-  The Sana Manuscripts lie:

  • Islamic Awareness' research.
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/karim/mosque_of_sanaa.htm  (A very good response by brother Karim)
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1542.msg6030.html#msg6030  Sana is 677.4 miles away from Mecca!
  •   
    3-  The Divine Miracle of the Quran's Text and Compilation:

  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.msg5825.html#msg5825
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.msg5856.html#msg5856
  • https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1457.0.html
  • Dr. Munir Munshey's [2] Quran Translation document.
  • 100% guarantee that the Quran is from GOD Almighty.
  • The Overwhelming Scientific Miracles of the Glorious Quran.  Here is one little sample from just the Numerical Miracles alone:
      
      
  • The Divine Promise and Miracle of the Glorious Quran's Preservation in Text and Pronunciation:

    Allah Almighty Said in the Glorious Quran regarding preserving the Holy Quran's Text and Pronunciation the following:

    Noble Verse(s) 15:9
    Yusuf Ali:

    [015:009]  We have, without doubt, sent down the Message; and We will assuredly guard it (from corruption).

    Arabic (from right to left):

    Original Quran-Arabic:

    Limited Arabic for internet browsers:

    15:9 انا نحن نزلنا الذكر وانا له لحافظون

      

    Noble Verse(s) 41:42
    Yusuf Ali:

    [041:042]  No falsehood can approach it (the Quran) from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.

    Arabic (from right to left):

    41:42 لاياتيه الباطل من بين يديه ولامن خلفه تنزيل من حكيم حميد

      

    Noble Verse(s) 75:16-75:19
    Sher Ali:

    [075:016]  Move not thy tongue, O Prophet, with the revelation of the Qur'an that thou mayest hasten to preserve it.

    [075:017]  Surely, upon US rests its collection and its recital.

    [075:018]  So when WE recite it, then follow thou its recital.

    [075:019]  Then upon US rests the expounding thereof.

    Arabic (from right to left):




    75:16 لاتحرك به لسانك لتعجل به

    75:17 ان علينا جمعه وقرانه

    75:18 فاذا قراناه فاتبع قرانه

    75:19 ثم ان علينا بيانه

    The Noble Verses above give Divine Promise from Allah Almighty:

    1-  To send down the Holy Quran to mankind.

    2-  To protect the Holy Quran from all corruption.

    3-  To preserve the way the Holy Quran's recitation.

         (i)-  Prophet Muhammad was trained by Angel Gabriel on how to recite the Holy Quran.

         (ii)- The Prophet was further instructed to not be careless with his tongue when he recites that Holy Quran.

         (iii)- The Prophet was also instructed to not be haste when it comes to reading the Holy Quran.  He should read it with extreme care.

    Important Note:  The Sunni Muslims, who make up more than 90% of all Muslims, today have perfected the recitation of the Holy Quran.  We have yearly tournaments with big prizes on who memorizes the Holy Quran the best, not just in Holy Words, but also in the pronunciation of the Holy Words.

    4-  To make the Holy Quran clear and an official Book for all Muslims.  Noble Verse 75:19 "ثم ان علينا بيانه" literally translates as "It is Upon Us to manifest it, make it clear, make it known.

          (i)-  The Arabic Word بيانه is derived from بيان , which literally means:

               1.  statement
               2.  declaration
               3.  proclamation
               4.  report
               5.  representation
               6.  notice
               7.  notification
               8.  list
               9.  pronouncement
               10.  list
               11.  bulletin
               12.  handout
               13.  program

    When a government official, such as the president or any senior person makes an official statement, he sends out a بيان bayan.  Clearly, this Divine Promise by Allah Almighty had come true.  All Praise and Glory and Thanks are due to Him, Alone!  The Holy Quran today is indeed perfectly preserved in both text and pronunciation No religious scripture on the face of this earth has this.  For ample more proofs, please see this discussion on this website's blog: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1116.msg3760.html#msg3760.

    Furthermore, the actual text of the Glorious Quran is a Miracle by Itself.  The variations in the spelling of certain Words, and the fact that their Numerical Values match, and their total is a multiple of the #19 without remainders, testifies to the Glorious Quran's Great #19 Miracle, which Allah Almighty called it: "One of the Greatest Ones (Miracles)" (74:35).

      

    5-  Also, when Allah Almighty set the number 19 as a Law for the Universe and the Holy Quran, then this is something that humans should thoroughly investigate here on earth and in space:

  • Spherical Geometry, the number 19 Miracle, the Inner-Nature of the Planets' System, and the Universe's function.  The Glorious Quran Says that Number 19 is لاحدى الكبر "One of the Great Ones (i.e., Miracles)".

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    6-  And once again, here are other STUNNING Miracles:

    Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]

    Here are some of my favorite Stunning Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran that are listed in the main sections, below:

    1-  The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

      

    2-  The Great Miracle.  Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran called the Number 19 Miracle "One of the Mighty Ones (Miracles)" (74:30-37) [1] [2].  See the 100s of Noble Verses that clearly testify to this Great Miracle.  Also, did you know that Allah Almighty Said in Surat Nuh (that's Noble Chapter Nuh (Noah)) that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years among his people. 

    Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah is exactly written in 950 Letters [1] [2]!  You can thoroughly see this in the scanned images that thoroughly verify every single Noble Letter, in the links.  Click on the links to see the many other Numerical Miracles in the Holy Quran.  Also, see the Numerical Miracles section along with all of the other great sections.  Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.

      
    3-  19 X 115 = 2185 Number 19 and BASMALA Miracle.  The total numerical value of Noble Verses 74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115): 19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task.  Again, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.
      

    4-  The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, if you add each Chapter's number with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8.  Do this for all Chapters.

    1-  The sum of the odd numbers from the list = 6555.
    2-  The sum of the even numbers from the list = 6236.

    See the XLS file for 100% confirmation.  Also, see the ample STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran, with 1,000s of examples! [1] (zip file)..  See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.

      

    5-  Please also checkout the many hundreds (1,000s) of Great Numerical Miracles, and the many tens (10s) of other Great Scientific Miracles:

      

    Quran's STUNNING-Miracles Section: [1]

    Click on the following numbers:

    1-    Geology, Earth's spherical expansion, formation, Mountains and Oceanology.
    2-    The Universe, Time, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles.
    3-    Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation, and Creation.

    4-    STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  With 1,000s of examples! [4].  See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.

    5-    Medicine, Humans, Insects and Animals.
    6-    Life, Origins of life from water and dust in the Noble Quran, Plants and their origins.
    7-    Psychology.
    8-    Archeology and History.
    9-    Great Web Sites and Online Books.

    10-   Rebuttals.
    11-   General articles.

    12-   STUNNING Prophecies, and Allah's Divine Promises to reveal the Quran's Miracles.

              Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

    13-   Audios and Videos.
    14-   Bibles' scientific absurdities and Other.

      
    For example:

    1-  The explosion of the Universe, Galaxies and Stars bring about Smoke.
      
    "When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (
    وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
      

    As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37
    is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that
    mankind will
    actually see this
    come to pass one day.  NASA and other space
    agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this
    Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a
    "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
    trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the
    look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

      

      

    The Glorious Quran declares that the earth is spherical: [1]
      
    Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:

           -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
           -  Is rotating around itself.
           -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
           -  Is in constant motion.
           -  Is suspended in space.
           -  Is swimming in space.
           -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
           -  The sunsetless North Pole miracle in the Glorious Quran [4]. 

  • At the top of the North Pole, the sun never sets [4], and I showed the video for that, and also quoted the scientific sources for that. Also in the lands near by, it almost never sets either, and I quoted sources for that as well, and also showed pictures of the "polar night" skies on these lands that are near the sunsetless North Pole.
      

    (Click to play clip by physicist, Brian Cox)

    They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says.  They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93).  Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly.  The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly.


         
  • He saw the Aurora Lights covering:

    Aurora Lights Hadith

      

  • Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:

    Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest! (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)


    Visit also:
    Islamic proof that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty when it is above Mecca.


      

    Regarding Dhil-Qarnayn (literally means "man of two horns"), Allah Almighty said this about his journey to the farthest northern lands and people:

    ‏18:90 حتى اذا بلغ مطلع الشمس وجدها تطلع على قوم لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر

    "Until he reached near حتى اذا بلغ where the sun is up مطلع الشمس, he found it above وجدها تطلع على people قوم whom We made no cover for them from it لم نجعل لهم من دونها ستر (The Noble Quran, 18:90)"

    Noble Verse(s) 18:91

    Rodwell:

    [018:091]  Thus it was. And we had full knowledge of the forces that were with him.

    Arabic (Read from right to left.  Also, all png image files: [1] [2].  Quran Moral Code (100s of them)]):

    18:91 كذلك وقد احطنا بما لديه خبرا

       

    Prophet Muhammad "did see" (Quran 53.18) the Aurora Lights covering the horizons above the earth from space.  Dhil-Qarnayn went up to the farthest northern lands where the sun is up, and "Thus it was", Allah Almighty completed the "full knowledge" regarding Dhil-Qarnayn's mission.  This further supports the story below about Dhil-Qarnayn's journey to the farthest northern lands and people (The sunsetless [4] North Pole Quran-miracle).  They also spoke almost unintelligibly (18:93), the Glorious Quran says.  They hardly spoke intelligibly (18:93)For example, can you read or say this:


    "Vaðlaheiðarvegavinnuverkfærageymsluskúrslyklakippuhringurinn" ??  This is an actual word. Historians have proven that the Barbarians of the North used to speak unintelligibly.  The actual meaning of the word "Barbarian" is someone who speaks unintelligibly.  The description of the people of the North, whose North Pole is truly sunsetless (see ample pictures), perfectly fits the Barbarians of the Vikings in the Scandinavian and other Barbarians in the near by lands:


    The early Muslims believed that Dhil Qarnayn reached the people of the farthest norths of the earth.  The following is a map of Al-Sharif Al-Idrisi in year 1154 giving the geographic location of where Dhil Qarnayn went according to the understanding of the early Muslims of Noble Verses 18:83-100:



    Dhil-Qarnayn literally means "man of two horns"

    Dhil = One who has.
    قرنين Qarnayn = two horns
    Qarnayn is a dual plural of Qarn (horn).
    Three or more horns is Quroon, in Arabic.

      

    Noble Verses 53:18 and 18:91 are also prophetically linked together; that Prophet Muhammad also saw what Dhil-Qarnayn ذي القرنين  saw.  Also visit: 

    Aurora Lights Hadith

      

    Other pronunciations to "Dhil Qarnayn"ذي القرنين  name:  Zul-qarnain, Dhul Qurnain, Dhu'l Qarnain, Zulqarnain, Dhu'l-Qarneyn, Dhu'lkarnein, Dhul-Qarnain, Dhu'l Qarnain, Dhool Karnain, Zul-Qarnain, Dhoulkarnain.

     
    (Video from NASA filming the Green Carpet Aurora Lights from space)

    Again, Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, saw the aurora lights covering the horizons of space above the earth when he was taken up to Heaven:

    Narrated Abdullah: "Regarding the Verse: "Indeed he (Muhammad) did see. Of the Signs of his Lord, The Greatest!" (Quran 53.18) That the Prophet had seen a green carpet spread all over the horizon of the sky قَالَ رَأَى رَفْرَفًا أَخْضَرَ سَدَّ أُفُقَ السَّمَاء."(Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 54, Number 456)


    Visit also:
    Islamic proof that the sun prostrates to Allah Almighty when it is above Mecca.


           -  The Glorious Quran also speaks about many earths [5] and not just earth.
           -  The Glorious Quran predicts
    11 planets in our solar system [6].

      

    In the end, Allah Almighty uses the Glorious Quran to "...Thus doth God leave to stray whom He pleaseth, and guide whom He pleaseth..." (74:31).  The infidels misuse the Glorious Quran to find "scientific errors".  The Glorious Quran is Allah Almighty's Perfect Divine Holy Book.  It contains no scientific error.  Visit the following example and the link to see 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles:

    1-  The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

      
    This is also all demonstrated in good details in the following
    video file and articles:

    www.answering-christianity.com/egg-shaped_earth.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm.  I used seven encyclopedic dictionaries:


    This is a picture of the seven encyclopedic dictionaries that I
    used that thoroughly demonstrate the Noble Words that contain
    the Scientific Miracles in them, and how they were used by the
    Arabs of old before and after Islam.  Ample quotations, sayings,
    proverbs and examples quoted from these dictionaries at:
    www.answering-christianity.com/detailed_meanings_of_scientific_words_in_verses.htm

      

    6-  The Glorious Quran's Perfect Preservation despite all of the odds and the many challenges to corrupt It.

  • Hafs vs Warsh, and Ahruf vs Qiraat thoroughly compared here.
      
  • Also, the produce Surah like it Quran challenge to all.  Click here.
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    7-  Prophet Muhammad, and Divine Islam, and the New Covenant from Arabia were thoroughly prophesied in previous scriptures.

      

    7-  Quran's STUNNING-Miracles Section: [1]

    Click on the following numbers:

    1-    Geology, Earth's spherical expansion, formation, Mountains and Oceanology.
    2-    The Universe, Time, Astronomy, UFOs and Space Shuttles.
    3-    Embryology, Human Anatomy, Formation, and Creation.

    4-    STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran.  With 1,000s of examples! [4].  See also the ample Textual Miracles [2] in the Glorious Quran, where Noble Words are spelled in certain ways depending on their certain historical and geographical context and timing in the Noble Verse.

    5-    Medicine, Humans, Insects and Animals.
    6-    Life, Origins of life from water and dust in the Noble Quran, Plants and their origins.
    7-    Psychology.
    8-    Archeology and History.
    9-    Great Web Sites and Online Books.

    10-   Rebuttals.
    11-   General articles.

    12-   STUNNING Prophecies, and Allah's Divine Promises to reveal the Quran's Miracles.

              Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

               

    13-   Audios and Videos.
    14-   Other.

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    As Muslims, we must be very careful when we comment on the previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to.  I know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their own Scriptures with their "End of Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their bigotry, hate and lies, - but still dear brothers and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous Scriptures, because as Muslims we do believe that they do contain remnants of Divine Revelations in them.  May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere Muslims, for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into.  Ameen.

    See also:  Islam's end of times STUNNING Prophecies section.

      

      

    Zionist Israel will rule the earth with Mighty Evil!  (Islamic Prophecy)

    The Glorious Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power.  They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8:

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  • Also, Israel will be annihilated by people of non-Muslims and Muslims according to the Glorious Quran's Prophecy.
      

  • What does the Glorious Quran say about the Jews' mighty success and dominance in wealth, science, media and politics?  "a rope from Allah and a rope from people" extended to them to enable the reaching of the Mighty Heights.
      

  • The Jews' financial domination and the Stock Market  (control of the earth's wealth) are STUNNINGLY prophesied in the Glorious Quran!

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    Also, Prophet Muhammad, peace and blessings be upon him, made a stunning prophecy about the one-eyed anti-Christ who will rule the infidels and the world:

    Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed."  (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

    Prophet Muhammad had many visions about the dajjal, and gave many signs about him.  Some of the things the Prophet said about the dajjal were literal, and some were vision-metaphors.  The most prominent one is that he will be one-eyed.  This is both literal and metaphoric.  It is literal today because the zionist anti-Christ system is indeed represented by the ONE-EYE symbol as seen in the following images.  The metaphors here are Allah Almighty not being ONE-EYED, because nothing can describe Allah Almighty.  There is "none like unto Him" (Quran, 112:4).  In other words also, the Prophet warned that this ONE-EYED SATANIC system will be a worshiped deity.  And that false deity is not Allah Almighty.  For ample more details and proofs, please visit link below.

    Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?  I demonstrated using ample Biblical verses that the ONE-EYED DAJJAL (anti-Christ) was never prophesied in the Bible to be ONE-EYED, nor was this Sign ever given in the Bible to any being.

  • I also showed how Jesus Christ, from among many other verses, used this "right eye" expression.  So it was never a Sign about the dajjal before Islam.  It was no more than a general language of the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).
      
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    So, what was the Gospel of Jesus Christ then, i.e., the Injil of Jesus Christ?  Even among Christians, this remains a mystery.  But the Didache; a Gospel which existed even before the current Bible-Gospels (or canonized Gospels), contains a great deal of teachings of Jesus Christ.  The following points are important to always keep in mind: (1)- No single Scripture, the Didache or any other Scripture, is 100% pure and accurate.  There are always forgeries and alterations.  This is the same with every single book and gospel. (2)- The Original Teachings of Christ exist in Scriptures that are in the Bible and outside the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

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    Title: Re: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 04, 2014, 05:41:29 pm
    Peace be onto you my brother, firstly Jesus is the Messiah and the Prophet, Isaiah 9:6ff and Matt 21:11, John 7:40.                      You said Jesus is not David lineage, I don't ague but read Matt 1:1-17, v17 says" so all the generations from Abraham to David are fourteen generations, and from David until the carrying away from Babylon are fourteen generations, and from carrying away into Babylon to Christ is fourteen generations" totally make forty-two generations from Abraham, while is Twenty-Eight generations from David to Christ, so please note this.                                You said John was referring to Jesus Christ in John 1:19-21.     But let me tell you that, the verses is referring to John Himself, in John 1:19-21 " v19 Now this was John's testimony when the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. v20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, "I am not the Messiah. v21They asked him, "Then who are you? Are you Elijah?"
    He said, "I am not."
    "Are you the Prophet?"
    He answered, "No."..." Truly he said all this, but He didn't want to tell them that He is the Elijah(prophet) ,let check v22-23 of this chapter " v22 Finally they said, "Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself? v23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, "I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, 'Make straight the way for the Lord.'"
    He was the one that the Book of Malachi 4:5-6 talking about, He is  Elijah , as we all know that Elijah didn't died, so he was sent in form of John the baptist . See luke 1:16,17. Malachi 4:5-6 "
    v5 "See, I will send the prophet Elijah to you before that great and dreadful day of the LORD comes. v6 He will turn the hearts of the parents to their children, and the hearts of the children to their parents; or else I will come and strike the land with total destruction.".                                                                        The Angel of God has foretold the birth of John as Elijah.  In the book of Luke 1:5-25. Esp in verses 11:20 11 Then an angel of the Lord appeared to him, standing at the right side of the altar of incense. 12 When Zechariah saw him, he was startled and was gripped with fear. 13 But the angel said to him: "Do not be afraid, Zechariah; your prayer has been heard. Your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you are to call him John. 14 He will be a joy and delight to you, and many will rejoice because of his birth, 15 for he will be great in the sight of the Lord. He is never to take wine or other fermented drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit even before he is born. 16 He will bring back many of the people of Israel to the Lord their God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . 17 And he will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the parents to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteousto make ready a people prepared for the Lord."
    18 Zechariah asked the angel, "How can I be sure of this? I am an old man and my wife is well along in years." 19 The angel said to him, "I am Gabriel. I stand in the presence of God, and I have been sent to speak to you and to tell you this good news. 20 And now you will be silent and not able to speak until the day this happens, because you did not believe my words, which will come true at their appointed time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus)."
                   Jesus Christ also talk about him(John) in Matt 17 when coming down from the mount of transfiguration with Peter, James and john his brother, in verses 10-13 "v10 The disciples asked him, "Why then do the teachers of the law say that Elijah must come first?" 11 Jesus replied, "To be sure, Elijah comes and will restore all things. 12 But I tell you, Elijah has already come, and they did not recognize him, but have done to him everything they wished. In the same way the Son of Man is going to suffer at their hands." 13 Then the disciples understood that he was talking to them about John the Baptist." We can see that the disciples don't know also, but Jesus said Elijah (John which they doesn't recognize him as Elijah)
    as come ,but they didn't recognize him.
    So therefore John 1:19-20 is referring to John the baptist.              You also said that Jesus is coming as an Arab not as an Israelite Matt 24:25-27".             But let me tell you this chapter (matt 24)  is talking about the signs of End Time, so by saying "So if anyone tells you, 'There he is, out in the wilderness,' do not go out; or, 'Here he is, in the inner rooms,' do not believe it." He was saying that their would be False prophets at the end time, but we should not listen to them, matt 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. and also Matt 7 v15 "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? So He was warning us . And by saying " For as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the west, so will be the coming of the Son of Man." Normally the moon do rise from east to west  , likewise  thunder, he may come from east but that doesn't mean He's coming like an Arab :D no! . Revelation 1:7 Look, he is coming with the clouds,"
    and "every eye will see him, even those who pierced him"   he is also coming like a thief at night, without noticing. Pls read Matt 24:32-44, 1john 2:2, John 1:29.  So pls note, He is coming as a king to judge  the world.                                                                                          NOTE :- Genesis 16:11-13 of your own bible, which I don't know where you get it from says "And he added, Now thou art with child; it
    is a son that will be born to thee, and thou
    shalt call him Ismael (that is, God hears), in
    token that God has listened to thee in thy
    affliction.
    12 His shall be a nature none can tame;
    hating all (evil) and hated by all (evil ones)
    , he shall pitch his camp eastwards of his
    brethren.
    13 Thus the Lord spoke to her, and thus she
    named him, Thou art God, that hast looked
    on me; for indeed, she said, there was one
    who looked on me here, and I saw him as he
    left me". You were trying to defend Ismael not as arrogant.
    But this is what is written in my bible..
    Genesis 16:11-13 " 11 The angel of the LORD also said to her:
    "You are now pregnant
    and you will give birth to a son.
    You shall name him Ishmael,
    for the LORD has heard of your misery.

    12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
    his hand will be against everyone
    and everyone's hand against him,
    and he will live in hostility
    toward all his brothers."

    13 She gave this name to the LORD who spoke to her: "You are the God who sees me," for she said, "I have now seen the One who sees me." So NOTE Ismael will be a wild donkey of a man (I.e He will be tormenting, forcing, behaving arrogantly) not he shall be nature non can tame as you said. Secondly when he is behaving like this , his hand will be against him.  Not that hating all (evil) and all that do evil, he himself is evil.     So this verses shown that he has already coursed by God himself. Thanks very well, may the grace of the Lord abide with you always in Jesus name! Amen!!!                                                                   Shalom. 
    Title: Re: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on May 05, 2014, 03:16:46 pm
    Peace be upon you brother TheEyeofGod,

    First of all, I would like to welcome you to the board.  I ask Allah Almighty to continue to lead you to the Right and True Path of Islam.  Ameen.

    As to your post, I never said that Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, will not be from David's line.  I also proved that John 7:40 proves that Jesus is different from the Prophet, in my first post above.  It is very well detailed from the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  The Jews clearly were expecting two different men:

    1-  The Messiah.
    2-  The Prophet.

    And as I've thoroughly proven above from both the Old and New Testaments, the Arabian Prophet who will come from the EAST (Arabs), and will bring a new Covenant, and will be an Arab, and will smash the idols, is indeed Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him.  His Prophetic name is also Ahmed.  This is in the Glorious Quran, and the name is also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls.

    As to Jesus' return, he clearly said he'll return from the EAST.  The Biblical verses that you provided for refutation do not disprove or refute this point at all.

    Please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/luke6_40.htm.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: MuslimBoy on May 07, 2014, 05:08:50 am
    As-Salamu Alaikum Every one,

    Jesus (Peace be Upon Him) was Born to a virgin. So, why did the lineage matter?
    I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.
    Title: Re: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: TheEyeofGod on May 16, 2014, 12:02:29 pm
    As-Salamu Alaikum Every one,

    Jesus (Peace be Upon Him) was Born to a virgin. So, why did the lineage matter?
    I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.
     
     
    .                                                                                Jesus is surely from David lineage. Read MATHEW 1:1-17.                                                                                              The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah

    1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:

    2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,
    Isaac the father of Jacob,
    Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

    3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
    Perez the father of Hezron,
    Hezron the father of Ram,

    4 Ram the father of Amminadab,
    Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
    Nahshon the father of Salmon,

    5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
    Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
    Obed the father of Jesse,

    6 and Jesse the father of King David.
    David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,

    7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
    Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
    Abijah the father of Asa,

    8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
    Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
    Jehoram the father of Uzziah,

    9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,
    Jotham the father of Ahaz,
    Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,

    10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
    Manasseh the father of Amon,
    Amon the father of Josiah,

    11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.

    12 After the exile to Babylon:
    Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
    Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,

    13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
    Abihud the father of Eliakim,
    Eliakim the father of Azor,

    14 Azor the father of Zadok,
    Zadok the father of Akim,
    Akim the father of Elihud,

    15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
    Eleazar the father of Matthan,
    Matthan the father of Jacob,

    16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

    17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.

    ******** is forty-two generations Abraham to the messiah***
    Title: Re: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: MuslimBoy on May 17, 2014, 02:33:49 am
    As-Salamu Alaikum Every one,

    Jesus (Peace be Upon Him) was Born to a virgin. So, why did the lineage matter?
    I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.
     
     
    .                                                                                Jesus is surely from David lineage. Read MATHEW 1:1-17.                                                                                              The Genealogy of Jesus the Messiah

    1 This is the genealogy of Jesus the Messiah the son of David, the son of Abraham:

    2 Abraham was the father of Isaac,
    Isaac the father of Jacob,
    Jacob the father of Judah and his brothers,

    3 Judah the father of Perez and Zerah, whose mother was Tamar,
    Perez the father of Hezron,
    Hezron the father of Ram,

    4 Ram the father of Amminadab,
    Amminadab the father of Nahshon,
    Nahshon the father of Salmon,

    5 Salmon the father of Boaz, whose mother was Rahab,
    Boaz the father of Obed, whose mother was Ruth,
    Obed the father of Jesse,

    6 and Jesse the father of King David.
    David was the father of Solomon, whose mother had been Uriah's wife,

    7 Solomon the father of Rehoboam,
    Rehoboam the father of Abijah,
    Abijah the father of Asa,

    8 Asa the father of Jehoshaphat,
    Jehoshaphat the father of Jehoram,
    Jehoram the father of Uzziah,

    9 Uzziah the father of Jotham,
    Jotham the father of Ahaz,
    Ahaz the father of Hezekiah,

    10 Hezekiah the father of Manasseh,
    Manasseh the father of Amon,
    Amon the father of Josiah,

    11 and Josiah the father of Jeconiah and his brothers at the time of the exile to Babylon.

    12 After the exile to Babylon:
    Jeconiah was the father of Shealtiel,
    Shealtiel the father of Zerubbabel,

    13 Zerubbabel the father of Abihud,
    Abihud the father of Eliakim,
    Eliakim the father of Azor,

    14 Azor the father of Zadok,
    Zadok the father of Akim,
    Akim the father of Elihud,

    15 Elihud the father of Eleazar,
    Eleazar the father of Matthan,
    Matthan the father of Jacob,

    16 and Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary, and Mary was the mother of Jesus who is called the Messiah.

    17 Thus there were fourteen generations in all from Abraham to David, fourteen from David to the exile to Babylon, and fourteen from the exile to the Messiah.

    ******** is forty-two generations Abraham to the messiah***
     
     
    I think the Geneology of Jesus was merely a fabrication by people of Pauline Doctrine to Convince the Chosen People. As they believed that the Messiah should be from David's Lineage.
     
     
    And What about this?
     




    Luke 3:31 the son of Melea, the son of Menna,
    the son of Mattatha, the son of Nathan,
    the son of David,
    Title: Re: Bibles: Jesus will return as an Arab, not as an Israeli (or Israelite)!
    Post by: submit on June 12, 2014, 10:13:08 am
    One shall read from Isaiah 41 till end 42. And when one reaches Isaiah 42:1, it will be clear that it can not prophecy Jesus due to the fact that Holy Spirit descent over a Servant of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). As that would mean Jesus need to exist in flesh without Holy Spirit to begin with.

    If we read Isaiah 42:1. God said "I have put my spirit UPON/AGAINST/OVER him (the hebrew word being used does not indicate my spirit WITHIN/BORN WITH him NOR does it say TO CREATE FLESH of him):... he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.."

    Which befits prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as after receiving divine guidance of Holy Spirit ; he himself spread the religion of One God to gentiles (other than Children of Israel). Jews have already worship One God and righteous Jews anticipated the coming of Holy One prophesied in Isaiah 41 & 42.

    Thus it is not Jesus (pbuh) as he did not preached to Gentiles and as mentioned in Isaiah 42:1 , God placed Holy Spirit onto His servant . Would  not this simply mean that Jesus needed to exist without Holy Spirit first and God later lets the Holy Spirit descend down to him inside the womb of Mary? 

    BUT the most important fact about the prophecy in Isaiah 42 is that Descendant of Ishmael will rejoice and uphold God's Law. Pauline Christians have abandon God's Law for Paul believe that God's Law has ended upon ascend of Jesus to heaven. Thus Paul created new Laws of his own specifically for the Romans.

    So we can conclude that Jesus (even with inclusion of Paul) can never fulfill Isaiah 41 & 42.

      

      

     

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    Title: Prophet Muhammad mentioned in Revelation 7:2 in the Bible!
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on June 05, 2014, 11:01:22 am
    As'salamu Alaikum everyone,

    The following verses are among the ones that will be in my upcoming article, Insha'Allah.  But I just wanted to make this quick post to demonstrate how Jew and Christian GOD-hating infidels have been trying so hard to suppress Islam in the Bible!  Yes, they hate GOD when it comes to Islam.  They hate GOD when they see Islam all over their Bible!  Yes, they hate GOD by altering His Divine Will from their Bible, and making their Bible say what it doesn't really say!  They are GOD-haters!  They'd rather go to Hell than to believe in Prophet Muhammad.  This is a fact.  That's how much hate they have in their hearts; so much that they would turn on their own Scriptures just to disprove Islam!  As one person put it:

    "It's like pushing the beach ball with all your strength under water to only see it bounce hard into the air as soon as you let go."

    With all of this said, let us examine the following verses from the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .  Keep in mind that the Bible defines "EAST" to be Arabia in many verses:


    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm  (Jesus Christ will return as an Arab, according to the Bible's New Testament)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/god_of_abraham_isaac_jacob.htm


    Let us further examine the following verses:

    Ezekiel 43:2
    and I saw the glory of the God of Israel coming from the east. His voice was like the roar of rushing waters, and the land was radiant with his glory.

    Hosea 13:15
    even though he thrives among his brothers. An east wind from the Lord will come, blowing in from the desert; his spring will fail and his well dry up. His storehouse will be plundered of all its treasures.



    The coming of Islam and the 144,000 saved Jews (very few of them):

    Revelation 7
    144,000 Sealed
    1 After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree.
    2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea:
    3 Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.
    4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

    Was not Prophet Muhammad called the "Seal of the Prophets" in the Glorious Quran:

    [033:040]  Muhammad is not the father of any of your men, but (he is) the Apostle of God, and the Seal of the Prophets: and God has full knowledge of all things.


    Islam in the Book of Revelation:

    Visit this link to see ample references about Prophet Muhammad, the Glorious Quran, Arabia, and GOD Almighty's Glory coming from the East in the book of Revelation:

    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2018.msg8407#msg8407




    The White Horse Prophecy:

    Also, Prophet Muhammad riding the White Horse Prophecy in the book of Revelation:

    www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2028.msg8760#msg8760



    Furthermore, we read:

    Psalm 48:7
    You destroyed them like ships of Tarshish shattered by an east wind.

    Psalm 78:26
    He let loose the east wind from the heavens and by his power made the south wind blow.

    Isaiah 24:15
    Therefore in the east give glory to the Lord; exalt the name of the Lord, the God of Israel, in the islands of the sea.

    Isaiah 41:2
    Who has stirred up one from the east, calling him in righteousness to his service? He hands nations over to him and subdues kings before him. He turns them to dust with his sword, to windblown chaff with his bow.

    To do this topic justice, again, please visit the following links:


    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)




    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm  (Jesus Christ will return as an Arab, according to the Bible's New Testament)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/god_of_abraham_isaac_jacob.htm


    This is why in the Bible, GOD Almighty told the HOUSE OF JACOB to not fear the new Prophet, who will come from Arabia, from the east, and from Kedar and Tema (two of Ishmael's sons): Isaiah 41:8-13 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm) [2 (https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1576.msg6196.html#msg6196)].


     

    Are you the Prophet?

    Isaiah 42:10-13 (listed in details below)   GOD will sing a New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers" (Deuteronomy 18:18).  Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. .  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, only Islam fulfilled Deuteronomy's army of 10,000 Believers (Deuteronomy 33:2).  The New Testament also renews this Prophecy and claims it is yet to be fulfilled in the future.  Also, Ishmael's Covenant was left for the "later generations".  Also, year 314:  Paran's geography was Mecca; 300 years before Islam.  Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty in Isaiah's prophecy and other OT books.  See also Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")    .

    Isaiah 56:5:  The future believers' name will no longer be Sons and daughters of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Their title will be Muslims.  The Jews also confirm this.

    The final Prophet in Jeremiah 31:31-32, Isaiah 42:10-13, John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 will bring a new covenant different from the one given to Moses ("It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors"), and he will be a gentile.  Only Islam's Covenant and Prophet fulfilled this.

    Prophecy about Muslims will bow to GOD in the direction of His Holy Temple.  Notice the "I will" and "toward" prophecy:

    Psalm 138:2
    I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

    In the OT, "the Prophet" will come from "their brothers" (the Jews' brothers: Deuteronomy 18:18).  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, a plethora of Prophecies in OT and NT that speak about this Prophet to be a Gentile, and will come from the Southern Lands, and from the Lands of Kedar and Teman (all in Saudi Arabia), and the House of GOD will be established in the deserts of Kedar:

    Muhammad in the Bibles.
    Muhammad in the NT.
    Muhammad in the OT.

    John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
    John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.

    Are you the Christ?  No. 
    Are you Elijah?  No. 
    Are you the Prophet?  No.

    Here are passages of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on image to expand:
      
       

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      

      
       Click to expand.

    Keep in mind also that Christianity's scriptures didn't get documented for 200+ years after Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Ample forgeries and lies were made by the pagan churches.

         
        

    300 years before Islam, Paran was Mecca:


    From www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm:

      

    300 years before Islam, manuscripts were found that gave the location of Paran to be in modern-day Mecca.  "Burden" is a monumental honorable thing from GOD Almighty.  Burden was used for Noah and other Prophets' tasks as well.  Notice in the following honorable burden how GOD Almighty will come from a far southern land, and from Teman and Paran in Arabia:
      
      

    Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty.

    Isaiah 21:13
    13 The burden upon Arabia....

    Habakkuk 1:1
    1 The burden which Habakkuk the prophet
    did see.

      

    What burden did he see?

    Habakkuk 3:3
    3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah (Arabian desert of  Selah in Isaiah 42:11 and MOUNT SELA in Medina thoroughly discussed below). His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.
      
      

    Tema in Hebrew means the "south country".  We also know that Tema (Tayma) is in Saudi Arabia today, and Saudi Arabia is indeed south of Palestine and Jordan.  So, GOD came from the south Arabian country, and His holy one from Mecca is the future burden that Prophet Habakkuk saw.  300 years before Islam, Paran was Mecca.


      
    Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty.

    Isaiah 30:6 The burden upon the south.

    Isaiah 30:27
    27
    Behold, the name of the
    Lord cometh from far (Far from Palestine. 
    Mecca is 900+ miles far, and it is in the south), burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

      

    Isaiah 21 Rider of camel prophecy. Only Prophet Muhammad fulfilled it when he entered Medina
    (city of Mount Selah) with his camel. Allah Almighty also commanded the Prophet to let his
    camel walk freely and settle in the spot that which first Islamic Mosque was built on:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkvncOs-syU
    www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_21_rider_of_camel_prophecy.mp4
    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

    00:00 Original reading has a single donkey and single camel rider, and jews corrupted the text
    02:45 Who are the 2 horsemen?
    05:27 Hard to determine the other two riders based on Babylon first destruction
    06:22 Babylon's second destruction and the rise of Islam in Habakkuk & Deuteronomy 33
    23:00 Babylon's second destruction and the rise of Islam in Daniel 2
    24:46 The donkey rider and the camel rider
    28:36 Cyrus didn't fulfill verse 9, Islamic empire did
    31:49 Book of revelation & Targum Jonathan say it's about 2 destructions of Babylon
    33:33 Rabbis admitting this prophecy & Ishmael isn't the camel rider
    39:53 Questions to those who deny this prophecy



    Arabia's
    honorable burden, Islam, is indeed monumental; heavy

     

    GOD's Honorable Burdens upon Arabia:

    GOD Almighty's new burdens that he placed on future Arabia are the same burdens that He placed upon Prophets, and also upon places where the righteous believers carry His Truth and uphold it.  A burden from GOD Almighty is:

    1-  Costly.
    2-  Requires endless patience and perseverance.
    3-  Is an honor from GOD Almighty upon the individual or the group of people.
    4-  Is not a wrath from GOD Almighty upon the individual or people.

      

    Future Arabia has many burdens placed upon it throughout the OT.  Notice also in the Bible, Prophet Job was called "perfect and upright" by GOD Almighty in the OT.  He was a very rich Arab man.  Also, Jesus in the NT called the Canaanite Palestinian woman "O woman, how great is your faith!  Be it as you wish."  He never granted any wish a person desires to any person throughout the NT, other than this Arab woman.

      

    Arabia's Future Blessings:

    Shout in joy Arabs in Arabia, for the streams of GOD's Truth and Blessings will gush from your lands; Arabia!

    Isaiah 35:6
    Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the
    desert shall waters break out, and streams running from Arabia.

    will shout for joy. וְתָרֹ֖ן
    (vetaron)
    7442: to give a ringing cry a prim. root
    For waters מַ֔יִם
    (mayim,)
    4325: waters, water a prim. root
    will break forth נִבְקְע֤וּ
    (nivke'u)
    1234: to cleave, break open or through a prim. root
    in the wilderness בַמִּדְבָּר֙
    (vammidbar)
    4057b: wilderness from dabar
    And streams וּנְחָלִ֖ים
    (unechalim)
    5158a: torrent, torrent-valley, wadi of uncertain derivation
    in the Arabah. בָּעֲרָבָֽה׃
    (ba'aravah.)
    6160: a steppe or desert plain, also a desert valley running South from the Sea of Galilee (i.e., precisely the lands of Saudi Arabia where Mecca and Medina are located) from the same as Arab

    Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/goddess_asherah_pornography_return_of_messiah_damascus.htm

              

    Isaiah 30:6 The burden upon the south.

    Isaiah 30:27
    27
    Behold, the name of the
    Lord cometh from far (Far from Palestine.  Mecca is 900+ miles far, and it is in the south), burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

      

    Isaiah 21 Rider of camel prophecy. Only Prophet Muhammad fulfilled it when he entered Medina
    (city of Mount Selah) with his camel. Allah Almighty also commanded the Prophet to let his
    camel walk freely and settle in the spot that which first Islamic Mosque was built on:
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkvncOs-syU
    www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_21_rider_of_camel_prophecy.mp4
    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

    00:00 Original reading has a single donkey and single camel rider, and jews corrupted the text
    02:45 Who are the 2 horsemen?
    05:27 Hard to determine the other two riders based on Babylon first destruction
    06:22 Babylons second destruction and the rise of Islam in Habakkuk & Deuteronomy 33
    23:00 Babylons second destruction and the rise of Islam in Daniel 2
    24:46 The donkey rider and the camel rider
    28:36 Cyrus didn't fulfill verse 9, Islamic empire did
    31:49 Book of revelation & Targum Jonathan say its about 2 destructions of Babylon
    33:33 Rabbis admitting this prophecy & Ishmael isnt the camel rider
    39:53
    Questions to those who deny this prophecy

      

    Arabia's honorable burden, Islam, is indeed monumental and heavy.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Also Mount Hira in Mecca in Isaiah 29:12 is possibly the same mountain Moses received GOD Almighty's Divine Revelations in, since this is the same mountain Prophet Muhammad received the Quran in.
      

    Isaiah 42:10-13 (listed in details below)   GOD will sing a New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers" (Deuteronomy 18:18).  Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. .  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, only Islam fulfilled Deuteronomy's army of 10,000 Believers (Deuteronomy 33:2).  The New Testament also renews this Prophecy and claims it is yet to be fulfilled in the future.  Also, Ishmael's Covenant was left for the "later generations".  Also, year 314:  Paran's geography was Mecca; 300 years before Islam.  Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty in Isaiah's prophecy and other OT books.  See also Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Sons and daughters titles will be "no more")    .

    Isaiah 56:5:  The future believers' name will no longer be Sons and daughters of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Their title will be Muslims.  The Jews also confirm this.

    The final Prophet in Jeremiah 31:31-32, Isaiah 42:10-13, John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44 will bring a new covenant different from the one given to Moses ("It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors"), and he will be a gentile.  Only Islam's Covenant and Prophet fulfilled this.

    Prophecy about Muslims will bow to GOD in the direction of His Holy Temple.  Notice the "I will" and "toward" prophecy:

    Psalm 138:2
    I will bow down toward your holy temple and will praise your name for your love and your faithfulness, for you have exalted above all things your name and your word.

     


      
    Jesus' Path to Islam quite clearly defined in Matthew 21:33-46:  Servants (FAILED) -> Son (FAILED) -> New Tenants ("other tenants") and New Ethnic People Jesus said (ethnei ἔθνει) (new nation)
    (non-Jewish Muslims>)). 
      The
    "great nation" of Ishmael OT prophecy begins to be fulfilled in Matthew 21:33-46. 

    Notice how Isaiah 42:11 defines the NEW SONG and NEW PEOPLE:

    The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

    1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
    2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
    3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
    4. He will sing a new song (law)
    5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
    NOT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL Matthew (15:24)
    6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
    7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

    Who is this man?

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3880.msg18381#msg18381

    Ample more details and proofs also below.

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  

      

    Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty.

    Isaiah 30:6
    6 The burden of the beasts of the south: into the land of trouble and anguish, from whence come the young and old lion, the viper and fiery flying serpent, they will carry their riches upon the shoulders of young asses, and their treasures upon the bunches of camels, to a people that shall not profit them.

    Isaiah 30:27
    27 Behold, the name of the Lord cometh from far, burning with his anger, and the burden thereof is heavy: his lips are full of indignation, and his tongue as a devouring fire:

    Isaiah 42:10-13 (listed in details below)   GOD will sing a New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers" (Deuteronomy 18:18)Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. .  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, only Islam fulfilled Deuteronomy's army of 10,000 Believers (Deuteronomy 33:2).  The New Testament also renews this Prophecy and claims it is yet to be fulfilled in the future.  Also, Ishmael's Covenant was left for the "later generations".  Also, year 314:  Paran's geography was Mecca; 300 years before Islam.  Arabia's honorable burdens from GOD Almighty in Isaiah's prophecy and other OT books.

    1-  Tema was one of Ishmael's sons.  It is also worth mentioning that Arabs in the OT and NT were called "perfect and upright" and have "great faith".  Not a single Jew was ever called that.

    2-  Tema in Hebrew means the "south country".  We also know that Tema (Tayma) is in Saudi Arabia today, and Saudi Arabia is indeed south of Palestine and Jordan.  So, GOD came from the south Arabian country, and His holy one from Mecca is the future burden that Prophet Habakkuk saw.  300 years before Islam, Paran was Mecca.

    Jesus' Path to Islam quite clearly defined in Matthew 21:33-46:  Servants (FAILED) -> Son (FAILED) -> New Tenants ("other tenants") and New Ethnic People Jesus said (ethnei ἔθνει) (new nation) (non-Jewish Muslims>)).    The "great nation" of Ishmael OT prophecy begins to be fulfilled in Matthew 21:33-46. 

    Notice how Isaiah 42:11 defines the NEW SONG and NEW PEOPLE:

    The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

    1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
    2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
    3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
    4. He will sing a new song (law)
    5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
    NOT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL Matthew (15:24)
    6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
    7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

    Who is this man?

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3880.msg18381#msg18381

    Ample more details and proofs also below.

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  

      


    GOD's burden will be upon Arabia prophecy.  The same word, "burden," was also used for monumental assigned tasks to Prophets.  So, Arabia was chosen to carry the burden, and to bear the brunt and pain of spreading GOD Almighty's Truth to the entire world.  See Goddess Asherah, pornography, return of the Messiah from Damascus, Bible and Islam Prophecy for ample verses and proofs.  The Prophecy also says GOD will come from a 
    far southern land [1], and from Teman and Paran [1] (both are in Saudi Arabia).  That's precisely Islam.  300 years before Islam, Paran's geography was determined to be in modern-day Mecca.  Manuscripts were found.


    Know also that the entire "House of Jacob", in Isaiah's prophecy, was commanded to follow this Servant-to-come from the deserts of Arabia [1].  Do not be afraid (Isaiah 41:8-13) of this new GENTILE SERVANT (Isaiah 41:2, 42:1) and the NEW CHANGE (he will sing a NEW SONG of new Divine Revelation Isaiah 42:10) that the desert of Kedar will rejoice for his coming (Isaiah 42:11).  Never was this said for an Israelite Prophet.  THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF JACOB were commanded to not be afraid of him, because he will be a NON-ISRAELITE ProphetNEW SONG here means a new non-Hebrew Arabic Scripture to come from Arabia (Kedar); the Glorious Quran.  Read Isaiah 41 & 42

    Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...".

      

    Also visit: Becca is Mecca in Psalm 4:6.  According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources.  Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca.  In the NIV Bible commentary of Psalm 84, they also mentioned that Selah was mentioned in verses 4 and 8 of Psalm 84.  Half of the Book of Psalm talks about Selah, and half of the Book of Isaiah has prophecies about the blessed future Arabia [2] [3].
      

    Also, cave Hira, which the Glorious Quran was sent down in, was precisely mentioned by the name in Isaiah 29:12.

      
      

    Teman Prophecy in Isaiah:

    The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Ishmael was the older brother of Isaac.  The Arabian desert of Kedar, which covers Teman [1]:

    Isaiah 42:
    10 Sing to the Lord a NEW SONG (new non-Hebrew, non-Jewish Divine Revelation "from their brothers (the Ishmaelites)" (Deuteronomy 18:18)Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses. , i.e., the Arabic Quran) And His praise from the ends of the earth, You who go down to the sea, and all that is in it, You coastlands and you inhabitants of them!
    11 Let the wilderness (
    desert in many translations) and its cities lift up their voice, The villages that Kedar inhabits.  Let the inhabitants of Sela sing, Let them shout from the top of the mountains.
    12 Let them give glory to the Lord, And declare His praise in the coastlands.
    13 The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; He shall stir up His zeal like a
    man of war. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies.

    Indeed, Islam came from Arabia.  The Glorious Quran is the NEW SONG that the Hebrew speaking Jews are not part of or used to.  And Islam prevailed over its Arabian enemies in the desert and ended the polytheism and idol worship.  Read Isaiah 41 & 42 Notice again:

    Isaiah 42:11
    1599 Geneva Bible
    11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice, the towns that [a] Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rocks sing: let them shout from the top of the mountains.

    Footnotes
    a. Isaiah 42:11 Meaning, the Arabians, under whom he comprehendeth all the people of the East.

    Source:  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isaiah+42%3A11&version=GNV

      

    Isaiah 42:11 Let the desert and its cities lift up their voice, The villages that Kedar inhabits.  Let the inhabitants of Sela סלע  sing, Let them shout from the top of the mountains.

    סלע:

    ס = S
    ל = L
    ע = A

    It is the city and region of Saleh in Saudi Arabia.  Hebrew SALA or SELA is SALAH or Saleh in Arabic.  Vowels are added to letters in Hebrew and Arabic to change the sound of letter.  This is similar to the letters E, O and other vowel letters in English.  Also inside the city of Medina, Islam's second holiest city, there is also Mount Sela.  Medina was Yathrib before Islam.  The Jewish Prophecy here could either be referring to the entire region or directly and specially to the city of Medina.  In either case, the geography is clearly deep in Arabia:

    Sela (Arabic: سلع ‎) is a mountain in Medina in modern Saudi Arabia. Mount Sela in the "District of the Seven Mosques" in city of Medina Municipality in Saudi Arabia. Sela means "sliced", because the mountain looks as if it is sliced several times. The Islamic prophet Muhammad in the Battle of the Trench prayed to God for victory on Mount Sela.

    Source: https://www.bing.com/search?q=mount Sela in Medina
      

    Remember in Isaiah 42:13, above, "MAN OF WAR. He shall cry out, yes, shout aloud; He shall prevail against His enemies." (Isaiah 42:13)


      

    And again, it is also worth mentioning that Arabs in the OT and NT were called "perfect and upright" and have "great faith".  Not a single Jew was ever called that.
      

      

    Desert of Saleh :

    Isaiah 42:11 Let the desert and its cities lift up their voice, The villages that Kedar inhabits.  Let the inhabitants of Sela sing, Let them shout from the top of the mountains.
      

    Although archaeological remains may not be the first thing that spring to mind when most people think of Saudi Arabia, it has incredible historic sites. Mada'in Saleh, which was designated a World Heritage Site by UNESCO, contains many remarkable ruins and tombs. It is the first location in Saudi Arabia to have achieved this distinction. It was once the second city of perhaps the most important pre-Islamic Arabian civilization, the Nabateans.

    ......

    Niches carved into the rock at Madain Saleh, Saudi Arabia (paulfell / Adobe Stock)

    Niches carved into the rock at Madain Saleh, Saudi Arabia paulfell / Adobe Stock)

    Source:  www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-asia/mada-saleh-0013171

    See also the locations of the Saudi Arabian deserts of Kedar, Dumah, Dedan, Teman, Paran using Atlas, Google Maps and archeology at:

                 www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm

       

    Remember:  Burden is a monumental honorable thing from GOD Almighty.  Burden was used for Noah and other Prophets' tasks as well.  Visit section #2 in the following article about "2-  The honorable burdens throughout the Bible".  Notice how GOD Almighty will come from a far southern land, and from Teman and Paran in particular in Arabia:
      

          Isaiah 21:13  The burden upon Arabia
         
                 
    Isaiah 30:27  GOD's Name will come from a far land
              
         
            Habakkuk 3:3  GOD will come from the southern (Tema) Arabian lands
                 
                 
    Isaiah 42:10-13 
    New Song from Arabia via the gentile Prophet who will come from the Jews' "brothers"
    (Deuteronomy 18:18)Also in Jeremiah 31:31-32, it will be a new Covenant different from the one that was given to Moses.

      

    www.answering-christianity.com/goddess_asherah_pornography_return_of_messiah_damascus.htm  
    www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm

      

    Isaiah 42:13 The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man;
    Habakkuk 3:3 God came from Teman, and the Holy One from mount Paran. Selah. His glory covered the heavens, and the earth was full of his praise.

    So we have the deserts of Teman, Paran, Kedar, Sela (Selah).  We also have Arabia, Duma, Deedan, and others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).  Again, remember: Burden is a monumental honorable thing from GOD Almighty.  Burden was used for Noah and other Prophets' tasks as well.  Visit section #2 in the following article about "2- The honorable burdens throughout the Bible".  Notice in the following honorable burden how GOD Almighty will come from a far southern land, and from Teman and Paran in Arabia:
      

    Isaiah 21:13  The burden upon Arabia

      
    www.answering-christianity.com/goddess_asherah_pornography_return_of_messiah_damascus.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/paran.htm

      
      

    House of Jacob must follow him:


    Know also that the entire "House of Jacob", in Isaiah's prophecy, was commanded to follow this Servant-to-come from the deserts of Arabia [1].  Do not be afraid (Isaiah 41:8-13) of this new GENTILE SERVANT (Isaiah 41:2, 42:1) and the NEW CHANGE (he will sing a NEW SONG of new Divine Revelation Isaiah 42:10) that the desert of Kedar will rejoice for his coming (Isaiah 42:11).  Never was this said for an Israelite Prophet.  THE ENTIRE HOUSE OF JACOB were commanded to not be afraid of him, because he will be a NON-ISRAELITE ProphetNEW SONG here means a new non-Hebrew Arabic Scripture to come from Arabia (Kedar); the Glorious Quran.  Read Isaiah 41 & 42

    Muslims (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...".
      

    Jesus' Path to Islam quite clearly defined in Matthew 21:33-46:  Servants (FAILED) -> Son (FAILED) -> New Tenants ("other tenants") and New Ethnic People Jesus said (ethnei ἔθνει) (new nation) (non-Jewish Muslims>)).    The "great nation" of Ishmael OT prophecy begins to be fulfilled in Matthew 21:33-46. 

    Notice how Isaiah 42:11 defines the NEW SONG and NEW PEOPLE:

    The prophecy of Isaiah 42 about the Prophet:

    1. Lives where Kedar the son of Ishmael [Genesis 25:13]
    2. Kedar from Arabia [Ezekiel 27:21]
    3. Will live besides Sela (mountain in Arabia)
    4. He will sing a new song (law)
    5. Will be sent from Gentiles not Jews
    NOT TO THE LOST SHEEP OF ISRAEL Matthew (15:24)
    6. Man of war (Isaiah 42:13)
    7. Will be sent to idol worshipers (Isaiah 42:17)

    Who is this man?

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3880.msg18381#msg18381

    Ample more details and proofs also below.

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  

      
      

    Hub leading to Islam:
      

    Jesus was the final Jewish Prophet, and the Messiah who shall return from Arabia (Matthew 24:25-27 and Islam say this), and his mission and message were limited to his Jewish generation.  He was a hub leading to Islam and to the new change:
      

    Matthew 15:24 24 Jesus answered, I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.
    Matthew 24:34  "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
    Matthew 5:17-20, Matthew 23:1-3 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

    Jesus was limited to only his Jewish generation.  Beyond that, he was only a hub leading to Islam and to Muhammad, the gentile Prophet.  Please also visit:

    Muhammad in the Bibles.
    Muhammad in the NT.
    Muhammad in the OT.
    Jesus was for his generation only.  Detailed Greek analysis.

    This is further proven in the following:

    Are you the Christ?  No. 
    Are you Elijah?  No. 
    Are you the
    Prophet?  No.

      

    Are you the Prophet?

    In the OT, "the Prophet" will come "from their brothers" (the Jews' brothers: Deuteronomy 18:18).  The Ishmaelites are the brothers of the Israelites.  Also, a plethora of Prophecies in OT and NT that speak about this Prophet to be a Gentile, and will come from the Southern Lands, and from the Lands of Kedar and Teman (all in Saudi Arabia), and the House of GOD will be established in the deserts of Kedar:

    Muhammad in the Bibles.
    Muhammad in the NT.
    Muhammad in the OT.

    John 1:19-21 John was asked if he were the Messiah, Elijah, and then "The Prophet": John 1:21.
    John 7:40-44, Jesus was supposed to come from David's line, while the Prophet was NOT.  He was a foreigner.

    Are you the Christ?  No. 
    Are you Elijah?  No. 
    Are you the
    Prophet?  No.

    Here are passages of John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on image to expand:
      
       

    Why wasn't Prophet Muhammad preached by the early Christians in Jerusalem, Arabia, Africa and Europe?  Early cities like Antioch, Corinth, Rome and others were never taught the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  Doesn't this prove that Islam is falseBut he was preached!

      

      
       Click to expand.

      

    Muslims bless Abraham everyday.  Shedding light on Genesis 12:1-3 "I will bless those who bless you...".


      
    300 years before Islam, manuscripts were found that gave the location of Paran to
    be in modern-day Mecca.

      

    Also visit: Becca is Mecca in Psalm 4:6.  According to (1) Cambridge commentary, (2) Jewish Encyclopedia and (3) Encyclopedia Biblica in Arabic and other sources.  Ample Jewish and Christian references declare Becca's geography to be modern-day Mecca.  In the NIV Bible commentary of Psalm 84, they also mentioned that Selah was mentioned in verses 4 and 8 of Psalm 84.  Half of the Book of Psalm talks about Selah, and half of the Book of Isaiah has prophecies about the blessed future Arabia [2] [3].
      

    Also, cave Hira, which the Glorious Quran was sent down in, was precisely mentioned by the name in Isaiah 29:12.

      

      
    = War on GOD:

    Also visit:

    Matthew 7:22-23GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

    Christianity is a war on GOD Almighty and a polytheist trinitarian paganism.  It turned sinful into lawful and lawful into sinful.  (ex: pork became lawful, polygamy became sinful and many other examples of blasphemies and quackery):

    Daniel 7:25
    25 He shall speak words against the Most High (turning sinful lawful and lawful sinful),
    and shall wear out the saints of the Most High,
    and shall think to change the times and the law; (AD calendar and christianity)

    and they shall be given into his hand (christianity will be forged)
    for a time, times, and half a time.


    GOD Almighty in the OT also sends lying spirits to the false prophets and their followers to help them grow their lies and misleading.  See also Oxymoron Trinity  (100+ verses).

      
      

    Islam is the Divine Truth:

    Islam is GOD Almighty's Divine Truth.  To be 100% sure about this, visit:

  • The Glorious Quran's STUNNING Numerical and Scientific Miracles.
  • What is Islam?
  •   

    For ample more proofs, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm.




    Prophet Job was both an Arab and a PERFECT Servant:

    And here is something a little bit off topic.  Prophet Job was both an Arab and a Perfect Servant:

    Job 1
    1 There was a man in the land of Uz, whose name was Job; and that man was perfect and upright, and one that feared God, and eschewed evil.
    2 And there were born unto him seven sons and three daughters.
    3 His substance also was seven thousand sheep, and three thousand camels, and five hundred yoke of oxen, and five hundred she asses, and a very great household; so that this man was the greatest of all the men of the east.

    For more details, please visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/god_of_abraham_isaac_jacob.htm

    And also visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm  (Jesus Christ will return as an Arab, according to the Bible's New Testament)
    www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

    Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad mentioned in Revelation 7:2 in the Bible!
    Post by: MuslimBoy on June 05, 2014, 11:56:28 am
    Wa Alaykaum As'Salam akhi,

    I was reading your article :-

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_42.htm

    Brother You did not mention the Double standard of Translator of Isaiah 42:1 You should copy paste it into the Online Translator Isaiah 42:1  א הֵן עַבְדִּי אֶתְמָךְ-בּוֹ, בְּחִירִי רָצְתָה נַפְשִׁי; נָתַתִּי רוּחִי עָלָיו, מִשְׁפָּט לַגּוֹיִם יוֹצִיא.

    It says : Behold, My Servant AHMAD  (Ahmad was removed by translators) , Mine Elect, in whom My soul delighteth ; I have put my Spirit upon him, he shall bring forth (law of) Judgement   (i.e. Quran)    to the   Gentiles.  (https://www.answering-christianity.com/who_are_the_gentiles.jpg)


     In Isaiah 42:1, it is deemed not a coincidence upon seeing the writing of both אתמך (Atmc) אחמד (Ahmd). And the word before אתמך (Atmc), is עבדי (Abdi~My Servant). For indeed, it is indicating Ahmad; Abdullah (Ahmad; Servant of God).
    **Not to mention אתמך (Atmc) happen to be a special term foretelling the coming of a righteous man and is used only ONCE throughout the entire Book. [could this be a copying error or an intended error?]
    ~~
    The prophecy Isaiah (42:117) tells about Ahmad; Servant of God whom will war to correct the wrongs and bringing judgement based on the law of God (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . He will liberate act of worshiping molten images and thus Arabia (wilderness desert, villages and cities) will glorify God since then. **As can be seen today, Arabia are worshiping,praising God and singing words of God daily. Inhabitants from all around the world gather there and voice out loud their praise to God.
    And we continue reading Isaiah (42:1825); God remind the blind and deaf about the wrath of God towards Children of Israel, whom neglect the message brought by past Servant of God.
    And not to repeat; the same mistake upon the coming of the new Servant of God
    "Ahmad" found in The Dead Sea Scrolls: http://youtu.be/OtEpM9BqvQI
    Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad mentioned in Revelation 7:2 in the Bible!
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on June 06, 2014, 06:44:28 am
    Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother MuslimBoy,

    I just updated the article.  Thank you for bringing it to my attention, akhi.  And also thank you for the valuable points that you mentioned below.  I've linked this thread today to https://www.answering-christianity.com/east.htm.  And yes dear brother, I am fully aware of the brother's valuable video that you linked.  This is one of the best videos out there.  Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing), many will watch it.

    May Allah Almighty bless you.  Ameen.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Prophet Muhammad mentioned in Revelation 7:2 in the Bible!
    Post by: MuslimBoy on June 07, 2014, 04:08:41 am
    Christians can not even argue that Ahmad (meaning Praiseworthy) here is a adjective not a name as in passages of Isaiah. God address His chosen servants with their names, and in the prophesied verse we see God mention clearly the prophets name. **Some examples of God mentioning His servant by name.
    My Servant Isaiah   (Isaiah 20:3) , My Servant Eliakim  (Isaiah 22:20), David My Servant   (Isaiah 37:35), Jacob My Servant (Isaiah 44:1), My Servant Israel  (Isaiah 49:3) etc..., and So in Isaiah 42:1 , God specifically mention My Servant Ahmad.

      

     

    Topic 1717 Backup:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog//index.php?topic=1717.msg6818#msg6818:

    Answering Christianity Research Center

    MAIN BOARD (You must register to post) => GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS => Topic started by: Rakib on October 31, 2014, 03:37:28 am

    Title: Daniel 9:24-27
    Post by: Rakib on October 31, 2014, 03:37:28 am
    Brother salam,
    last day one of my friend who is christian show me those verse (Daniel 9:24-27) and said look bible prophesied about jesus death then how can u muslim say jesus was not crucified, after that i read those verses and and search for answer but still cant find any suitable answer would you please help me to answer their question.

    thank you
    Rakib   
    Title: Re: Daniel 9:24-27
    Post by: submit on October 31, 2014, 08:50:27 pm
    christians translations
     
    Quote
    can be seen here verse 25 "From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven sevens, and sixty-two sevens. It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble"
     


    After period of 69 'seven years'.  the anointed ruler will have to teach covenant for 1 'seven years' .

     
    Quote
    As can be seen here verse 26" After the sixty-two sevens, the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one seven. In the middle of the seven he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.
     

    So we dont see any mentioning about after death, that the anointed shall wake up 3 days later and give teachings for another 7 years before ascending to heaven. 
    Nor we see anything mentioned about anointed having equal status to God.
    **Christians believe after resurrection the annotated was only 40 days on earth by the way.

    ~~~~
    jewish translations
     
    Quote
    can be seen here verse 25 "From the emergence of the word to return and to build Jerusalem until the anointment of the prince will be seven septets, and fir sixty-two septets it will be rebuilt, street and moat but in troubled times."
     

    some jews believe about two annointed rulers and not one annointed being mentioned in Daniel 9. 

     
    Quote
    As can be seen here verse 26" Then, after the sixty-two septets , the anointed one will be cut off and will exist no longer; the people of the prince will come and will destroy the city and the Sanctuary; but his end will be (to be swept away as) in a flood. Then, until the end of the war, desolation is decreed.27 He will also forge a strong covenant with the great ones, for one septet, but for half of that septet he will abolish sacrifice and meal offerings and the mute abominations will be upon soaring heights, until extermination as decreed will pour down upon the mute (abomination)..
     

    the translation from  annointed one will be cut off;for some jews refer to Agrippa, the last Jewish King.

    ALSO, in Daniel 9:21-23 we can see Gabriel/Holy Spirit transmitting words of God to Daniel, to understand what is being ordained/decreed by God.
    Title: Re: Daniel 9:24-27
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on 
    November 01, 2014, 01:52:24 am
    Quote
    Brother salam,
    last day one of my friend who is christian show me those verse (Daniel 9:24-27) and said look bible prophesied about jesus death then how can u muslim say jesus was not crucified, after that i read those verses and and search for answer but still cant find any suitable answer would you please help me to answer their question.

    thank you
    Rakib   
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers,

    Let us examine the verses in question in details:

    (the red commentary are mine)

    Daniel 9:24-27 (https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+9%3A24-27&version=CEV)
    Contemporary English Version (CEV)
    24 God has decided that for seventy weeks,[a] your people and your holy city must suffer as the price of their sins. Then evil will disappear, and justice will rule forever (indeed, the evil zionist Israel that is the capital and center of all evil on earth, including 9/11, must be destroyed forever inorder for peace and righteousness in Palestine to be restored); the visions and words of the prophets will come true, and a most holy place will be dedicated.[b ]

    25 You need to realize that from the command to rebuild Jerusalem until the coming of the Chosen Leader (I believe this is Jesus Christ, peace be upon him),[c] it will be seven weeks and another sixty-two weeks.[d] Streets will be built in Jerusalem, and a trench will be dug around the city for protection, but these will be difficult times.[e] 

    26 At the end of the sixty-two weeks,[f] the Chosen Leader[g] will be killed and left with nothing (the NT is clear that Christ never died.  He was laid down in the tomb and received medical treatment from three women and others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).  On the beginning of the third day, he got up and left the tomb.  So "put to death" here is symbolic and not literal.  Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm for more details).[h]

    A foreign ruler and his army will sweep down like a mighty flood, leaving both the city and the temple in ruins, and war and destruction will continue until the end, just as God has decided 
     (indeed, this is the evil Israel of today!). 

    27 For one week[i ] this foreigner[j] will make a firm agreement with many people, and halfway through this week,[k] he will end all sacrifices and offerings. Then the Horrible Thing that causes destruction will be put there. And it will stay there until the time God has decided to destroy this one who destroys.

    Nothing here refutes Islam.  On the contrary, it confirms Islam's position about the evil Israel.  Please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm for more details.



    We further read in Daniel:

    To prove that my commentary above is accurate, we further read in Daniel that the anti-Christ system will camp between Mount Zion and the Mediterranean sea.  This is precisely the evil state of Israel today.  In fact, it doesn't even include West Bank, Palestine:

    Daniel 11
    ......
    43 and he will take its rich treasures of gold and silver. He will also conquer Libya and Ethiopia.[g] 
    44 But he will be alarmed by news from the east and the north, and he will become furious and cause great destruction. 
    45 After this, he will set up camp between the Mediterranean Sea and Mount Zion. Then he will be destroyed, and no one will be able to save him.

    Again, visit: https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm for more details.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Daniel 9:24-27
    Post by: submit on November 01, 2014, 06:21:39 am
    your christian showed you those verse (Daniel 9:24-27) and said look bible prophesied about jesus death.

    but you can tell him that hebrew root karath/cut off doesnt necessarily means kill. It can some times refer to cutting ties from being part of Children of Israel.

    so if we look at the verse again , the anointed one will be cut off from Israel and will exist no longer from Israel

     
    Quote
    which makes perfect sense where he will not be preaching covenant to Israel anymore after the decreed period of 70 'seven years' is reached and he will exist no longer for israel(vanish/disapear).
     

    if the Christians still insists to use literal meaning of kill, then the Messiah was killed and vanished. Again, it has nothing to do with waking up after 3 days and stay on earth for 40 days before vanishing himself.

      

      

     

    Topic 1406 Backup:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1406.msg5370.html#msg5370:

    Answering Christianity Research Center

    MAIN BOARD (You must register to post) => GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS => Topic started by: Isa27James on December 30, 2013, 07:18:27 am

    Title: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: Isa27James on December 30, 2013, 07:18:27 am
    Muhammad was to die by poison cause he lied.
    Then the Messenger of God said, "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." (The History of al-Tabari, Vol. 6, pages 108-111)

    MY COMMENTS ON THE FALSE PROPHET
    Muhammad had to fight cause he was a sooth sayer aka false prophet but not only did we see this but the people in mecca but satan was with him until my GOD the GOd of Israel looked at him like he did pharoah and said who is this prophet..Jeremiah 23:Lying Prophets
     
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: Mohammed.Rashid on December 30, 2013, 08:32:49 am
    ur not asking this to clarify it i am sure u r asking this to insult Muslims and making a mockery of islam

    i m sure that u r believer of a false prophet that is paul.
    first read my question that invalidates ur greek pagan heretical version of judaism which is christianity said by a chosen one of god a jew called maimonides.

    Read my 60 questions that invalidates ur pagan cult of judaism called christianity.
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: FARHAN_UDDIN on December 30, 2013, 09:03:15 am
    Assalamualykum.


     I don't think it is brother Isa's comment. As far as I know he is a Muslim. He just wants to clear up his confusions.
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on December 30, 2013, 11:02:32 am
    UPDATE:  I wrote my rebuttal below at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1406.msg5591.html#msg5591 .



     
    Muhammad was to die by poison cause he lied.
    Then the Messenger of God said, "I have fabricated things against God and have imputed to Him words which He has not spoken." (The History of al-Tabari, Vol. 6, pages 108-111)

    MY COMMENTS ON THE FALSE PROPHET
    Muhammad had to fight cause he was a sooth sayer aka false prophet but not only did we see this but the people in mecca but satan was with him until my GOD the GOd of Israel looked at him like he did pharoah and said who is this prophet..Jeremiah 23:Lying Prophets
     
     

    Man, where are my books when I need them!  I used to have 20+ books of the English translation of Al-Tabari.  I hope they didn't get donated or thrown away by accident.  I don't know where I misplaced them.  I will find volume six and double check the quotation just to make sure that it isn't another empty anti-Islamic lie.

    My response is coming up today, insha'Allah.  Stay tunned.

    UPDATE:  LOL, I can already tell that this story stinks like the trinity lie ( https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac7.htm#links ), and the pornography in the corrupt bible ( https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac10.htm#links ).  Right off the bat, the page numbers sounded very suspicious for a single lone quote.  3 pages for a single lone quote?!  It turns out that this story is about the false revelations that satan has put into the mouth of the Prophet (an unreliable story), and that GOD Almighty has removed them and Protected the Holy Quran from them.

    Don't believe me?  Got to Amazon.com right now, and click on this link:

    http://www.amazon.com/The-History-Al-Tabari-Vol-Muhammad/dp/0887067077#reader_0887067077

    Read inside the book (a preview with limited pages), and see the Table of Contents.  See the chapter that starts with page 107:

    "Satan Casts a False Revelation on the Messenger of God's Tongue"

    So this is about the satantic verses and not about the Prophet of Islam deliberately fabricating lies!  This is about satan forcing the Prophet to utter lies, and not the Prophet uttering lies by his own desires.

    I will look for the book tonight.  If I don't find it, I will order and rush deliver the book tonight, insha'Allah.  Give me a couple of weeks to write a thorough article so that we can throw this garbage in the dumpster and be done with it for good!

    Meanwhile, please visit: www.answering-christianity.com/satanic_verses.htm .  Satan had Jesus hang from the top of the temple (as big as a castle).


    UPDATE:  Again, I wrote my rebuttal below at: https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1406.msg5591.html#msg5591 .


    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: Isa27James on December 30, 2013, 02:27:36 pm
    sorry the whole post did not show
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: Isa27James on December 30, 2013, 02:36:35 pm
    here is what a   christian tried to use to prove Muhammad pbuh a false prophet

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jeremiah+23 
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on December 30, 2013, 07:45:39 pm
    sorry the whole post did not show
     
     

    Sorry dear brother Isa27James.  It looks like a special character cut your post.  If I knew this, I would not have used this board.  I am researching how to fix it.  Please make sure that you don't use special characters in your posts.  Here is a brief post with an image that explains it:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,1373.msg5221.html#msg5221

    If I can't get this problem fixed, I will convert to a new blog that will allow for special characters, and will also preserve the links of the already existing posts and threads on this forum.  I know of one that is already out there.  It costs money and it's not cheap.  But if this issue isn't fixed, I will just go for it, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on February 02, 2014, 10:54:51 pm
    As'salamu Alaikum dear brothers and sisters,

    I have not forgotten about this post.  I got the book weeks ago, but I couldn't get to it as soon as I could.  I was very busy.  I apologize for that. 

    Anyway, I have scanned pages 107-112 from the book:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_page107.png
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_pages108-109.png
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_pages110-111.png
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/tabari_vol6_page112.png

    These are for everyone to read along.  I will write a detailed article and rebuttal about this topic, Insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).  I will also include David Wood's "Death of Muhammad" video, and prove that the Glorious Quran truly remains the Divine Truth of Allah Almighty!


    Quick Rebuttal to David Wood:

    First of all, the I would like to ask the reader to visit my post below about the many Prophets that
    Israel has murdered:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1406.msg6959#msg6959

    Now to David Wood's points, although you've been thoroughly refuted at: www.answering-christianity.com/david_wood_rebuttals.htm, but even if we take your theory, which is the worst case scenario, this still clearly proves that the Glorious Quran is the Divine Truth!  You see everyone, David's theory goes like this (more details will be given, Insha'Allah):

    1-  The Quran declares Itself to be Divine, and that Muhammad is a Messenger of GOD Almighty.
    Sam Shamoun:  If Catholicism is false, then the entire NT is a fraud, and there is "no Christianity".  It would be like the "pagan worship of Baal".  Sam Shamoun also declares the 2nd and 3rd centuries bibles-writings are forgeries, and declares that if you study the bible logically, then you will become an atheist.

    2-  The Quran warned Muhammad that if he were to fabricate lies on GOD Almighty, then GOD Almighty would:

    (a)-  Seize Muhammad from his right hand (meaning make him powerless).

    (b)-  Kill Muhammad by cutting or severing his oarta.

    [069:040]  Most surely, it is the Word brought by an honored Apostle,
    [069:041]  And it is not the word of a poet; little is it that you believe;
    [069:042]  Nor the word of a soothsayer; little is it that you mind.
    [069:043]  It is a revelation from the Lord of the worlds.
    [069:044]  And if he had fabricated against Us some of the sayings,
    [069:045]  We would certainly have seized him by the right hand,
    [069:046]  Then We would certainly
    have cut off his aorta.
    [069:047]  And not one of you could have withheld Us from him.
    [069:048]  And most surely it is a reminder for those who guard (against evil).
    [069:049]  And most surely We know that some of you are rejecters.
    [069:050]  And most surely it is a great grief to the unbelievers (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    .

    ‏69:40 انه لقول رسول كريم
     
    ‏69:41 وماهو بقول شاعر قليلا ماتؤمنون
     
    ‏69:42 ولابقول كاهن قليلا ماتذكرون
     
    ‏69:43 تنزيل من رب العالمين
     
    ‏69:44 ولو تقول علينا بعض الاقاويل
     
    ‏69:45 لاخذنا منه باليمين
     
    ‏69:46 ثم لقطعنا منه الوتين
     
    ‏69:47 فما منكم من احد عنه حاجزين
     
    ‏69:48 وانه لتذكرة للمتقين
     
    ‏69:49 وانا لنعلم ان منكم مكذبين
     
    ‏69:50 وانه لحسرة على الكافرين


    3-  According to several Islamic sources, Muhammad claimed that he felt his aorta is being cut or severed before he died.

    4-  According to several Islamic sources, Muhammad was so weak during his final days, that he had to be carried by his companions to move around and to go to places.

    Therefore, Muhammad was a false Prophet according to David Wood.



    ONE-STATEMENT REBUTTAL TO DAVID WOOD:

    If your theory is true, and that Prophet Muhammad did sin against the Holy Quran through the satanic verses, which Allah Almighty had cleansed them from the Holy Quran and kept the Holy Book Perfect and error free, then how about saying that what was a Divine Warning and a Divine Promise from Allah Almighty to the Prophet in the Holy Quran,
    turned into a perfectly fulfilled Divine Prophecy!  And even in your worst case scenario, David Wood, the Holy Quran is proven over and over and over again to be the Divine Truth from GOD Almighty.


    To the reader, please visit the following links to see the Overwhelming Scientific Miracles and Prophecies of the Glorious Quran:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#rebuttals
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/sci_prophecy.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#prophecies

    More on all of this soon, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: ThatMuslimGuy on February 03, 2014, 04:06:35 pm
    AsalamuAlaikum,

    Jazak Allah Khairan for the print outs!
    Title: Re: This really needs a big refutation
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on January 16, 2015, 04:17:33 am
    Continuing with my previous rebuttal:


    What about the Prophets that Israel murdered?  Were they also false prophets?

    According to David Wood's standards, many Prophets from the Bible have to be false, because they were "outwitted" by the Jews and were murdered by them.  Let us look at some of the Bible's verses regarding the murdering of many Prophets by the Jews:

    From https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080503233652AAqHoyk:

    Which prophets were said to be killed by the Jews?

    peace be upon you Lie hunter,

     i believe you are referring to the following verse of the quran:
     (002:061)  ...They were covered with humiliation and misery; they drew on themselves the wrath of Allah. This because they went on rejecting the Signs of Allah and slaying His Messengers without just cause. This because they rebelled and went on transgressing.

     in his famous commentary on the quran called tafheem-ul-quran http://www.tafheem.net/main.html maulana abul ala maududi provides the following references:

     The Israelites recorded their crimes in detail in their own history. Here are just a few examples from the Bibles:
     
     (1) After the death of Solomon the state of the Israelites was split into two: the State of Judah with its capital in Jerusalem, and the State of Israel with its capital in Samaria. This was followed by a series of wars between the two States so that the State of Judah sought the assistance of the Aramacan State of Damascus against its own kinsmen. At this, Hamani the seer went under God's direction to Asa the king and rebuked him. Instead of rectifying his behaviour, Asa was so angry that he put the seer in the stocks. (See 2 Chronicles 16:7-10.)

     (2) When Elijah denounced the Jews for their worship of Baal and invited them to retun to monotheism, Ahab, the king of Israel pursued him for the sake of his pagan wife so that he had to take refuge in the mountains of the Sinai peninsula. On this occasion, according to the Bible, he said: '. . . the people of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thy altars, and slain thy prophets with the sword., and 1, even 1 only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away' (1 Kings 19:14).

     (3) The same king Ahab imprisoned another Prophet, Micah, for no other reason than that of speaking the truth. King Ahab ordered that he should be given only bread and water. (See 1 Kings 22:26-7)

     (4) When idol-worship and moral corruption became prevalent in Judah and the Prophet Zechariah raised his voice against them, he was stoned to death in the very court of the house of the Lord. (See 2 Chronicles 24:21.)

     (5) When the Israelite State of Samaria was wiped out by the State of Jerusalem, the Prophet Jeremiah deplored the condition of the Israelites. He warned them that it was time they set about mending their ways otherwise they would face an even more calamitous end than that of Samaria. The response to this sincere preaching was abuse and curses: he was beaten, imprisoned, put in the stocks and lowered by ropes into a cistern, where he was left to die of hunger and thirst. He was also accused of various crimes, including treason and conspiracy. (See Jeremiah 15: 10; 18: 20-3; 20: 1-18; 36-40)

     (6) It is reported of another Prophet, Amos, that when he denounced the widespread errors and corruption in the State of Samaria and warned of the evil consequences that follow such misdeeds, he was condemned to exile and told to pursue his prophetic task somewhere beyond its frontiers. (See Amos 7:10-13.)

     (7) When John the Baptist protested against the acts of moral corruption that were brazenly practised in his court, Herod, the ruler of Judah, first put John into prison, then had him beheaded at the request of a dancing girl, and had his head set on a platter and presented to the girl. (See Mark 6:17-29)

     (8) The same hostility to Prophets is evident from the life of Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him)
    . The priests and political leaders of Israel ultimately became inflamed against Jesus, who criticized them for their impiety and hypocrisy and invited them to true faith and riahteousness. It was this which prompted them to prepare a false case against him and persuade the Romans to sign a death sentence. Later, when the Roman governor, Pilate, asked them which of the two prisoners - Jesus or Barabbas, a notorious brigand - should be released on the occasion of the feast, they asked for the release of Barabbas and for the crucifixion of Jesus (Matthew 27: 20-6). This is a shameful chapter in the record of the Jewish nation, to which the Qur'an refers here in passing. It is evident that when a nation chooses its most notoriously criminal and wicked people for positions of leadership, and its righteous and holy men for gaol and the scaffold, God has no alternative but to lay His curse and damnation on that nation.

    An addition from me, Osama Abdallah:  Visit the following link to see how the Bible in both the Old and New Testaments CLEARLY AND THOROUGHLY declares that Jesus was never crucified:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/isaiah_53.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm


    Other verses:

    1 Kings 19:10
    He said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars and killed Your prophets with the sword And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away."

    1 Kings 19:14
    Then he said, "I have been very zealous for the LORD, the God of hosts; for the sons of Israel have forsaken Your covenant, torn down Your altars and killed Your prophets with the sword. And I alone am left; and they seek my life, to take it away."

    2 Kings 9:7
    'You shall strike the house of Ahab your master, that I may avenge the blood of My servants the prophets, and the blood of all the servants of the LORD, at the hand of Jezebel.

    Nehemiah 9:26
    "But they became disobedient and rebelled against You, And cast Your law behind their backs And killed Your prophets who had admonished them So that they might return to You, And they committed great blasphemies.

    Romans 11:3
    "Lord, THEY HAVE KILLED YOUR PROPHETS, THEY HAVE TORN DOWN YOUR ALTARS, AND I ALONE AM LEFT, AND THEY ARE SEEKING MY LIFE."


    The following articles are good reads:

    https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080503233652AAqHoyk 
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=1406.msg5370#msg5370
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/jews_not_chosen_people.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/prophet_poison_death.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/muslim1/the_accusations.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/mo-death_rebuttal.htm
    https://www.answering-christianity.com/david_wood_rebuttals.htm

    Research Links on Google:
    https://www.google.com/search?q=prophets+killed+by+israel 
    https://www.google.com/search?q=prophets+killed+in+the+old+testament


    And last and not least, to see the Glorious Quran's Overwhelming Scientific Miracles, visit:

    https://www.answering-christianity.com/ac20.htm#links
     
    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

      

      

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    Title: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
    Post by: Idris on January 31, 2015, 02:55:03 pm
    As-Salamu Aleykoum,

    there is some interesting passage in the New Testament in which Jesus probably mentioned the name Ahmed (the prophetic name of Muhammad - Pbuh):

    John 18:37 Pilate asked him, "So you are a king?" Jesus answered, "You say that I am a king. I was born for this, and I came into the world for this: to testify to the truth. Everyone who is committed to the truth listens to my voice."
     
    John 18:38  Pilate asked him, "What is 'truth'?" After he said this, he went out to the Jews again and told them, "I find no basis for a charge against him.
     
    If you read this verse carefully you would notice that there is something wrong with its context. I mean the question that Pilate adressed to Jesus (Pbuh) when he heard: testify to the truth. Note that after hearing this, Pilate asked him in a very strange way: ''What is truth ? just like he didnt understand what this word means ! The big question then is why he said: "What is 'truth'?" instead of saying: "What truth?" ??? Well, if we suppose as various English translations of the Bible says that Pilate asked Jesus What is truth ? it does not make sense, since historically Pilate was a judge and he dealt with lies and truth almost every day, so how did he not know what truth is ? Even from a grammatical point of view the formulated question (poses by Pilate) that we find in various translation of the Gospel of John it is incorrect ! But now you will be really surprised. Ready ? In the Ancient Aramaic Scriptures, Pilate in John 18:38 says here: Who is the Truth ? !!!

    Source : http://www.v-a.com/bible/

    Who ??? Every one know that who is a form of interrogative pronoun i.e. part of speech which applies only to a person ! But the word truth actually stands for a noun not for a person. Now it is very important to know that the hebrew word for
    truth is emeth (אמת) and according to Strongs Dictionary of Hebrew Bible it correctly pronounced as ehmeth ! As we have seen above, the translation of this verse in the Ancient Aramaic Scriptures indicates that the hebrew word eh'meth - in this case - must refer to the person and not to a thing. This word ehmeth corresponds to Ahmed in view of their phonetic spelling. Apparently this word was a foreign word for Pilate and looks like that made him to ask: Who is Ehmeth ? or more probably Who is Ahmed ? implying that he was not asking about the truth (which is just a noun) but about a man named Ahmed (person)! That mystery word forced Pilate to repeat what he heard by asking "Who is Ahmed?", and it shows that he realized that Jesus was talking about a person. It is possible !

    It becomes quite clear and does make sense because the Qur'an gives exactly the same witness from the mouth of Jesus (Pbuh):

    And [mention] when Jesus, the son of Mary, said, "O children of Israel, indeed I am the messenger of Allah to you confirming what came before me of the Torah and bringing good tidings of a messenger to come after me, whose name is Ahmed."   (Quran 61:6)

    MY OPINION

    I believe that Jesus in John 18:37 was trying to say I came into this world for, that I should bear witness to Ahmed and Allah knows best!

    Unfortunately, the problem is that the word ehmeth or emeth appears 56 times in the Bible ! So I want to know how to explain it to prove that the word for Ahmad is mentioned only in specific places. Together we can solve our problems :)
    Title: Re: Jesus spoke about the Prophet Ahmed in John 18:37 ?
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on January 31, 2015, 04:13:26 pm
    Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Idris,

    WOW!!  This is truly a great piece from you akhi.  Here is what your blessed work got me to find, dear brother:

    http://biblehub.com/hebrew/571.htm

    emeth: firmness, faithfulness,
    truth
    Original Word: אֱמֶת
    Part of Speech: noun feminine; adverb
    Transliteration: emeth
    Phonetic Spelling: (eh'-meth)
    Short Definition: truth

    It is amazing that Prophet Muhammad's PROPHETIC NAME in the Glorious Quran is AHMED.  This is the name that Prophet Isa (Jesus) and others also before him prophesied about the Prophet of Arabia.  The reader can visit the following section for ample proofs, and for proof that AHMED was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:

    www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

    Yet, we have here:

    1-  AHMETH
    2-  AHMED

    Very strikingly similar indeed.  This requires further digging my beloved in Islam.  Great job dear brother Idris on your post.  This is indeed a great one that opened the door for a lot of research to come, Insha'Allah.

    May Allah Almighty bless you, akhi Idris.  Ameen.  Keep up the great work, akhi.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

      

      

      

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    Title: Will Allah really weight our deeds or is it just metaphorical?
    Post by: arman114 on November 05, 2015, 06:05:35 AM
    I mean it is well known accepted belief of Muslims that on judgement day Allah will count (or weight) the deeds of people and whoever's bad deeds outnumber good deeds will go to hell. Is this justice? Is this concept supported in Quran?? If that's the case then no one will go to heaven! Why are Muslims so scared about their salvation? Why do they think we have to be REALLY REALLY REALLY nice and righteous like angels to earn heaven? Is this what Allah said? 

    May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong.
    Title: Re: Will Allah really weight our deeds or is it just metaphorical?
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on 
    November 05, 2015, 11:57:50 AM
    I mean it is well known accepted belief of Muslims that on judgement day Allah will count (or weight) the deeds of people and whoever's bad deeds outnumber good deeds will go to hell. Is this justice? Is this concept supported in Quran?? If that's the case then no one will go to heaven! Why are Muslims so scared about their salvation? Why do they think we have to be REALLY REALLY REALLY nice and righteous like angels to earn heaven? Is this what Allah said? 

    May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong.
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

    First of all, it is only Allah Almighty alone who determines what deeds to count and don't.  A Believer must have a clean heart in order for his/her good deeds to count:

    [026:089]  "But only he (will prosper) that brings to God a sound heart;

    [037:084]  Behold! he approached his Lord with a sound heart.

    So it isn't like a game where you collect points.  The intentions of the person in all of what he/she does are what determines whether the person is True or false:

    [033:005] Call them after their fathers. That is more equitable in the sight of ALLAH. But if you know not their fathers, then they are your brothers in Faith and your friends. And there is no blame on you in respect of any mistake you may unintentionally make in this matter; but you will be called to account for that which your hearts purpose. And ALLAH is Most Forgiving. Ever Merciful.

    [002:225]  God will not call you to account for thoughtlessness in your oaths, but for the intention in your hearts; and He is Oft-Forgiving, Most Forbearing.

    [004:106] but ask pardon of God for thy wrong intention, since God is indulgent and merciful.

    And after all is settled with Allah Almighty, then and only then will Allah Almighty take into consideration the weight of your scale.  But your scale will be put together only by Allah Almighty with the following factors applied to it:

    1-  Allah Almighty's Mercy.
    2-  Allah Almighty's Forgiveness.
    3-  Allah Almighty's Justice.
    4-  Allah Almighty's Wrath.
    5-  Allah Almighty's Judgment.

    Only Allah Almighty alone will balance all of these in your scale as He, the Almighty, Pleases.  No one can tell which sin will be forgiven and which will be punished, because there are many factors that will be factored into it such as:

    1-  Age (if he/she is less than or more than 40.  This is mentioned in the Holy Quran.  See link below)
    2-  Situation the person was in.
    3-  Intention.
    4-  How he was brought up.

    And so many other ones.  For ample more details, visit the following links:


    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)



    www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/believers_can_not_be_unjust.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/mercy_of_allah.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm


    Do Hajj and Prayers in certain places and times clean all of the sins:

    As always, you won't find these claims in the Holy Quran.  And these are very big claims; that your sins of the past, present and also future ones (see below) will be forgiven.  So, they would've been mentioned by Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran if they were true.  But these are lies that were invented on Islam.  Many hadiths that exist in the sahih collections were proven to be fabricated lies on the mouth of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and his companions:

    www.answering-christianity.com/warning.htm

    This is why what the Glorious Quran doesn't reject is accepted as CLOSEST TO THE TRUTH, and not absolute Truth (only the Quran is Absolute Truth).  Otherwise, it belongs to the garbage.  I don't believe those hadiths are true, because they contradict the Glorious Quran.  There are hadiths that speak about:

    1-  Hajj cleaning all of the sins.

    2-  Praying in Jerusalem or in Mecca or in Medina will bring 1000s of times more good deeds than praying in regular Mosques.

    3-  Some prayers and fastings
     remove sins of the past and of the future.

    I believe those hadiths are all lies.  Their substance is worthless and it clashes with the Holy Quran's Divine Message in the Noble Verses that I mentioned above and in many others (See also Isaiah 1:9-17: Yahweh called Israel Sodom, because it spreads evil and is unjust).  This is because:

    1-  Praying in certain places and/or in certain times has nothing to do with intentions and with having a clean heart.

    2-  If such thing is true, then Allah Almighty would've covered it in the Glorious Quran.  Forgiving all of the sins of the past, present and future isn't big deal enough to be mentioned in the Glorious Quran? 
     Seriously??  Are we really that ridiculous??  Yes, according to the cultists that count themselves on Islam, and Islam is innocent from them, yes we are.

    3-  The biggest hypocrites from among the Muslims had always been from among the "very religious" cultists, because they use Islam to validate their hypocrisies and falsehoods.

    4-  You'll find that the most straight forward Muslims are the ones that are in the Middle.  They're not to the far right nor to the far left.  And this is how a Muslim should be anyway:

    [002:143] Thus We have appointed you a middle nation, that ye may be witnesses against mankind, and that the messenger may be a witness against you. And We appointed the qiblah which ye formerly observed only that We might know him who followeth the messenger, from him who turneth on his heels. In truth it was a hard (test) save for those whom Allah guided. But it was not Allah's purpose that your faith should be in vain, for Allah is Full of Pity, Merciful toward mankind.



    What about the Qadr Night during Ramadan?  Isn't it better than 1000 Months?

    [097:001]  We have indeed revealed this (Message) in the Night of Power:
    [097:002]  And what will explain to thee what the night of power is?
    [097:003]  The Night of Power is better than a thousand months.
    [097:004]  Therein come down the angels and the Spirit by God's permission, on every errand:
    [097:005]  Peace!...This until the rise of morn!

    The Night of Power is better than 1000 months because:

    1-  The Holy Quran was revealed in It.
    2-  The Spirit and the Angels will come down in It.

    Nothing about a good deed being equal to 1000s of normal good deeds is mentioned.  Yet, we have false hadiths that say if you fast in this night, then your sins of the past and in the future will be forgiven!  So using this rotten logic, then I don't have to do anything else during the whole year except to fast this night.  In fact, just fast ONE RAMADAN in my whole life is more than enough, because my sins of the past and future will be forgiven, because I would have had fasted during the Night of Power in just this one month.

    And who said that the Night of Power's Blessings are limited to those who fast in It anyway??  Does the Holy Quran say that?  Do you read that you must FAST IN THIS NIGHT in order to receive Allah Almighty's Mercy, Forgiveness, Guidance and Blessings?  No.  Allah Almighty only talked about this Night being a very special Night, because the Holy Quran was revealed in It and because the Spirit and Angels come down in It.

    The claim about fasting in this Night will remove your past, current and future sins is a lie!  These are all lies that were invented on Islam.



    What about Allah Almighty Multiplying the Good Deeds in the Glorious Quran?

    Allah Almighty Said:

    [042:019] Allah is Gracious to His servants. He supplies (ample) provisions to whom He wants; He is the Mighty and the Powerful.
    [042:020] We multiply the benefits for those who want to reap the worth (of their deeds) in the afterlife. We grant the benefits in this world to those who seek the fruits of their labor, right here in this world. 

    Allah Almighty would multiply your deeds based on your intentions, clean heart, piety, charity, justice, ethics and morals.  It is about how True you are.  No mention about praying or fasting in certain places or times at all in the Glorious Quran; let alone the garbage about erasing your
     FUTURE SINS and the past and current ones.  The Noble Verses that speak about the intentions, clean heart, piety, charity, justice, ethics and morals are far too many to list here.  But 100s of them are listed here in my detailed analysis of the entire Glorious Quran:

    www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/believers_can_not_be_unjust.htm



    Changing evil deeds for Good Deeds:

    If the person truly wins the Favor of Allah Almighty through his good heart and intentions, then he might get many of his/her evil deeds converted into good deeds after they get forgiven:

    [025:070] Except those who repent, believe and perform righteous acts. For such ones Allah will exchange their bad deeds with good ones. And Allah is the most Forgiving, the most Merciful!

    [027:011] "But if any have done wrong and have thereafter substituted good to take the place of evil, truly, I am Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

    Please visit:

    www.answering-christianity.com/quran_moral_code.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/believers_can_not_be_unjust.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/mercy_of_allah.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/islam.htm

    I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Will Allah really weight our deeds or is it just metaphorical?
    Post by: submit on 
    November 06, 2015, 05:25:32 AM
    I mean it is well known accepted belief of Muslims that on judgement day Allah will count (or weight) the deeds of people and whoever's bad deeds outnumber good deeds will go to hell. Is this justice? Is this concept supported in Quran?? If that's the case then no one will go to heaven! Why are Muslims so scared about their salvation? Why do they think we have to be REALLY REALLY REALLY nice and righteous like angels to earn heaven? Is this what Allah said? 

    May Allah forgive me if I said anything wrong.
     
     


    Those that have bad deeds being more will be punished in hell for appointed time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus). Then due to the mercy of the Creator, they will enter heaven.

     
    Quote
    Allah has one hundred (degrees of) mercy, of which He has shared one between all of creation, by virtue of which you show mercy and compassion towards one another and the wild animals show compassion towards their young. And He has kept back ninety-nine (degrees of) mercy by virtue of which He will show mercy to His slaves on the Day of Resurrection.
     

      

      

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    Title: Walid shoebat article needs to be refuted links
    Post by: Introvert98 on July 15, 2016, 09:59:48 am
    http://shoebat.com/2015/08/21/archeologists-discover-a-4000-year-old-archeological-find-linking-allah-to-lucifer-and-the-harlot-religion/

    He links historic source in the description but talso he uses this the translation contains the word Allah I am worried
    http://shoebat.com/2015/08/21/archeologists-discover-a-4000-year-old-archeological-find-linking-allah-to-lucifer-and-the-harlot-religion/
    Title: Re: Walid shoebat article needs to be refuted links
    Post by: Abdullah Almadi on July 15, 2016, 11:04:17 am
     Like I said before, get out of this website troll. No one takes you seriously anymore. Your questions are like that of a 3 year old. I know we're the rebuttal foe Shoebat's claims are, but I won't give it to you. Maybe you can shut up and learn a lesson. I cannot tolerate a stupid hypocrite like your self anymore. You are like a wolf dressed in sheep's clothing. Introvert, when was the last time that you answered a question? NEVER! YES! NEVER! All you do is ask the most ridiculous and stupid of questions. You believe everything that you hear. No person can be ridiculous as this. It is obvious that you are a hypocrite troll. I'm wondering if you are a Muslim anyway. But I don't wanna jump to conclusions. Maybe you should read surat Al-Munafiqun  (the hypocrites).
    Title: Re: Walid shoebat article needs to be refuted links
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on July 15, 2016, 11:18:33 am
    Like I said before, get out of this website troll.
     

    As'salamu Alaikum,

    Dear brother, please stop with this message.

    Thank you,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Walid shoebat article needs to be refuted links
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on July 15, 2016, 11:21:48 am
    http://shoebat.com/2015/08/21/archeologists-discover-a-4000-year-old-archeological-find-linking-allah-to-lucifer-and-the-harlot-religion/

    He links historic source in the description but talso he uses this the translation contains the word Allah I am worried
    http://shoebat.com/2015/08/21/archeologists-discover-a-4000-year-old-archeological-find-linking-allah-to-lucifer-and-the-harlot-religion/
     
     

    As'salamu Alaikum dear brother,

    The Great Prostitute, Walid Shoebat, wrote his article with deceiving twists that made his garbage look authentic with the links that he gave.  If you read closer, and pay closer attention, you'll see that his links in blue (supposedly his references) don't mention Allah.  You won't find "Allah" mentioned until you click on the "Great Flood" one, which is made with opinions  This is the link that mentions "Allah":

    http://www.livius.org/fa-fn/flood/flood1.html



    It all comes down to this:

    Since Allah Almighty Commanded the Muslims to fight the disbelievers until the Religion of Allah Almighty is Superior, then this made GOD Almighty "THE GOD OF WAR" to the doomed-to-Hell infidels from the Jews and Christians.  And in the ancient discoveries, they found that some bully god fought the Supreme GOD Almighty.  Therefore, Allah is the bully god and satan.

    A side note here:

    1-  GOD Almighty Commanded the Jews to fight in the OT, and they committed mass genocides even.  Visit: www.answering-christianity.com/ac12.htm#links

    2-  Jesus Christ when he returns.

    The disciples arguing about the Sabbath and other Laws.  Jesus promised them that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths and that there will be no arguments, confusions or riddles.  Yet, the NT is marred with open arguments, vilifications (calling each other cursed by GOD "anathema", satanic, false, wrong).  Where is Jesus' promise??  Totally a false promise!


    Where is Jesus' promise??

    -  He promised that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, guide them in all ways, and that it will be the Holy Spirit speaking, not them.
    -  They ended up splitting into
    Paul vs. Peter two opposing groups, and were at odds with each other on several theological issues.
    1 Corinthians 7:40  Paul wasn't sure if he had the Holy Spirit in him or not. He said "I think I have the Holy Spirit".
    -  Their differences remain unsettled till this day in the NT.  They were never resolved.

    -  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    -  They were barking at each other like
    rabid dogs calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan!
    [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


      

    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in their conflicting scriptures?


    Jesus' oxymoronic hyperboles and incoherence created serious problems blasphemies!

      

    Remember:

    If Paul is false, then Jesus is insufficient:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.





    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.


    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Yet, Paul admits that he speaks through a lying spirit  (Romans 3:7  But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?), while Jesus promised all of the disciples that the Holy Spirit will take over the disciples' mouths, and that it will not be them speaking, but the Holy Spirit. Yet, Paul says he was lying.  12th disciple was also chosen by holy gambling

    Paul and his team of disciples were also calling Peter's team, - and vice versa, - anathema ἀνάθεμα (cursed by GOD), false, bewitched, dogs, and many other things.  Jesus' original message got corrupt from the false christianity and the deification of flesh and blood creations like Jesus, Mary and others like they used to do in ancient Europe in Greece, Rome, Byzantine and throughout ancient ancient Europe of three-headed gods and trinities, such as the trinity of Zeus, Athena and Apollo; also Hell's three-headed guardian dog, or the trinity of Delian, Artemis and Apollo and many other ancient trinities.  Only Islam completes GOD Almighty's Religion.  See ample prophecies.
      Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      

    Matthew 7:22-23: GOD sent Jesus to be Christianity's lying spirit


    Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.
      
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    "bar Allahin" in Daniel 3:25-26 means the chosen one of Allah

    Eesa  is Iesu and Iesus in Latin and Greek for Jesus, and Eesa is also a Hebrew word that means doctor


    "...are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow..." (The Noble Quran, 4:157)

      

      
      

    Dismal Spiritual Failures:

    Let us examine the following:

    Romans 3:23 ESV
    For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    Ecclesiastes 7:20 ESV
    Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins.

    No man is sinless and faultless.  The NT even says Jesus himself sinned via coveting the sins of the world.  Paul then barfs the following gem:

      

    1 Corinthians 2:15
    A spiritual man makes judgments about all things, but he himself
    is not subject to any man's judgment.

        

    How???

    How can any flesh and blood sinner not be subjected to judgment?  The world has seen how disastrous your pedophilic and corrupt priests, ministers and churches are, from sex abuse on children, theft, prostitution and so much more.  Ironically also, Paul and the disciples themselves dismally failed this standard when they turned into rabid dogs in harsh judgments on each other; calling each other cursed, false, liar, satanic, your gospel is from satan! [1]  Their books didn't even exist for the first 200 to 300 years, says most Bibles theologians.  They are very highly corrupted.  Also, Trinity is a lie from Hell.  Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?  There is also conflict regarding misogyny:

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.




    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Which book were the people of the Book reciting (فسأل الذين يقرؤون الكتاب) during Prophet Muhammad's days according to the Glorious Quran 10:94?

      


    Insufficient Jesus:

    Edward Dalcour says that Jesus would be insufficient if Paul was proven to be false:



    Sam Shamoun thoroughly demolishes trinity and the early bibles' writings.  See also: 24 other thrones besides Jesus'.  Virgin Mary is being group-incest-raped by some trinity members.



    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      


    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

    Does Noble Verse 9:31 say that Allah and Jesus are two equal Lords?  Also, thorough refutation to  توحيد الربوبية  (tawheed alruboobiyyah, or Oneness of Lordship between Jesus and Allah) concept by the polytheist trinitarian pagans (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).


    The Bibles' sacred "book of toiletספר קודש של שירותים    and praised incestuous rape can be read here
    كتاب المرحاض المقدس


      

    ***** Bibles' OT and NT:  Spirits that GOD Almighty sends down including lying ones in the Bibles.  Jesus in several passages was Commanded by GOD to become one to forge falseianity (christianity) because of the ample blasphemies of the Jews.

    Why was GOD Almighty charitable (χάριτι) and forgiving to Jesus in Luke 2:52:?


    Jesus replaced Satan: (Ezekiel 28:13-19).

    Notice the language of how Satan was:

    1. "You were perfect from the day you were created".  Jesus was also created from the Word of GOD.
    2. Glorious.
    3. "the chosen one".
    4. The "Anointed".
    5. ruler over earth.
    6. Ruler over the "Holy Mount" of GOD
    .

    7.
    Matthew 24:25-27 Jesus will return as an Arabian Messiah from Damascus.

    He was all of these and more before arrogance, pride, stubbornness and blasphemies caused Satan to fall from Grace.  Jesus then became the substitute, i.e., the Perfect", "Glorious", "the chosen one", the "Anointed", "ruler over earth" and ruler over the "Holy Mount" chosen one of GOD Almighty.



    Holy Gambling:
      
    Sam Shamoun promoted Christianity's
    Holy Gambling, and he even funded other gamblers.  He himself spent 10s of thousands of dollars on it.  Also, the 12th disciple, Mathias, was chosen via gambling by the other disciples.  They literally rolled the holy dice [1] amongst each other to choose him from among other choices.  Then they claimed it was the Holy Spirit that chose him (??).  Dice and chance had nothing to do with it.




    Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

    The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: 
    [1]

       


    Paul commanded women to not expose sex predators in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35, 1 Timothy 2:11-13, 1 Thessalonians 4:3-4, 1 Corinthians 2:15 and other passages.

      

    Jesus also said the direction of the Prayer towards Jerusalem will be no more (Psalm 138:2, John 4:21, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 35, Isaiah 60, Genesis 25:12-13).  It will be replaced with the Qibla (direction) to Mecca and the Holy Path to Mecca.  Only Islam is the Divine Truth from Allah Almighty.  Christianity is pagan.  Even Christmas is an ancient Roman pagan holiday (video clip) according to the Christian theologians themselves:


    Jesus too carried the Spirit of GOD in him, and he carried also the Spirit of fearing GOD in him.  Jesus was also called slave of GOD in the OT many times.  He also had no Divine WillTrinity is a lie from Hell.

    See also 24 other Thrones and Messiahs besides Jesus (Revelations 4 & 5).

    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    Eid Al-Adha: Ishmael or Isaac?  GOD's peace be upon them both.  Who was the son to be sacrificed?  Bibles and Quran agree it was Ishmael.

      

    Satan & Peter VS. Paul: 2 Corinthians 12:7-11.  Paul literally put Peter and Satan in one team.

      

    Sam Shamoun also exposes the ample  holy group sex that occurs in his circle:

      

      

    Paul ordered the execution (actual killing) of some sinners.

    Paul ate his vomit.

    Paul proves the book of Revelation is a forgery; a book of misogyny:

      

    Bibles' manuscripts prove that Jesus was only sent for a limited Generation, as he himself stated, and his final return from the east (Matthew 24:25-27) is a new Covenant from Arabia and Islam; also false christs and prophets during and after Jesus [1] [2] at the time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

      



    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women:







    See also Islam's End of Times Prophecy about world-wide movements to corrupt the women, and also gender alteration and creation alteration Islamic Prophecy:



    Quran: All Bibles are mostly corrupt [1]  قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

     (Sam Shamoun declares gambling is allowed in Christianity)

    Jesus amputated his unholy testicles and head of penis to remain holy.  If his body was holy, were his testicles cursed and unholy, especially that he commanded to maim your sinful body parts?  You mean to tell me that they were not part of the Creator of the Universe's body??  Paul said maimed flesh gets sent to satan.

      

    Why did Jesus amputate his own (NT calls them satanic flesh) testicles and penis' head?

     

     

      

     

    , he'll put the entire earth to the sword according to the New Testaments.

    Yet, none of these would link the GOD of the Bible to the god of war??  And why should an ancient pagan god, like the Hindues' MANY gods, be linked to GOD Almighty in anyway??  In other words, if a pagan god is a god of war, and GOD Almighty Commanded the Believers to fight Just Wars, then this makes GOD Almighty the pagan god?

    The Great Prostitute, Walid Shoebat, is a notorious liar and deceiver.  I will further expose him on this point, this weekend, Insha'Allah.  He's been thoroughly refuted here:

    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm

    The Great Prostitute named his article as: "Archeologists Discover A 4000 Year Old Archeological Find Linking Allah To Lucifer And The Harlot Religion".  This is to help the search engines pick up this post, Insha'Allah.

    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah
    Title: Re: Walid shoebat article needs to be refuted links
    Post by: submit on July 15, 2016, 11:37:05 am
    its an attempt of walid shoebat to make Islam look evil, but in truth its the Hellenize Christians are eventually supporters of 'God of War' hence their nature to incite world wars / mass killings worldwide

      

      

    Topic 2141 Backup:

    From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=2141.msg9505#msg9505:

    Answering Christianity Research Center

    MAIN BOARD (You must register to post) => GENERAL TOPICS | BOARD ANNOUNCEMENTS => Topic started by: Introvert98 on June 27, 2016, 02:13:39 am

    Title: Why does Allah call himself the best of creators
    Post by: Introvert98 on June 27, 2016, 02:13:39 am
    In that statement is Allah referring to more than one creator? Doesn't this contradict the Qurans claim of their only being one God
    Title: Re: Why does Allah call himself the best of creators
    Post by: adilriaz123 on June 27, 2016, 06:26:27 am
    Allah set is the true creator, people can create things through forging and mixing materials and minerals. That is a form of creation but a very minisculr form of creation. True creation is creation something from nothing. All Allah set has to say is "BE" and it is.


    Also brother these are nights of decree, lallut Al qadr, take advantage of it. http://www.islamicacademy.org/html/Articles
    Title: Re: Why does Allah call himself the best of creators
    Post by: Awesome31310 on July 29, 2016, 05:36:37 am
    For the same reason why the Bible says:

    Psalm 82:1- "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:"

    Both the Bible and the Quran subtly acknowledge the existence of multiple gods.
    Title: Re: Why does Allah call himself the best of creators
    Post by: QuranSearchCom on July 29, 2016, 08:44:44 am
    For the same reason why the Bible says:

    Psalm 82:1- "God has taken his place in the divine council; in the midst of the gods he holds judgment:"

    Both the Bible and the Quran subtly acknowledge the existence of multiple gods.
     
     

     
    The Family of Allah أهل الله in Islam, and the Majestic "We":
      

    .......

    In regards to your question, there are two legitimate answers for it:
      
    1-  GOD Almighty can and does refer to Himself as WE and I.  So the plural We can and does refer to Allah Almighty Alone.
      
    2-  In Allah Almighty's Realm, there are the People of Allah.  Even our Hadiths call them AHLU ALLAH أهل الله (Family of Allah).

  • Go to www.google.com, and search for إن لله - تعالى - أهلين من الناس، قالوا: يا رسول الله من هم؟ قال: هم أهل القران، أهل الله وخاصته
      
  • The Hadith in Arabic translates as:
      
    "Allah Almighty has AHLEEN (families) أهلين from mankind.  They asked: "O Messenger of Allah, who are they?"  He said: They are the People of the Quran; the Family/People of GOD أهل الله , and they are His Special Ones خاصته."
      
    Note: Every Spoken Word from GOD Almighty is Quran, even before Islam.
      
  • This is what we will be called in Heaven, and Allah Almighty also does recognize "Son of GOD" title in the Glorious Quran, but Says that they are no more than pious "....servants raised to honour.  (The Noble Quran, 21:26)".  Nothing Divine about them except that they exist with Allah Almighty Eternally in Heaven.  But as far as Divine Authority and Power, all Divine Authority and Power belong to Allah Almighty Alone and none else.  You can visit:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/definition_son_of_god.htm (The definition of "Son of God" in Islam)
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god_in_bible_and_quran_debate.ppt
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_of_god.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/son_translation.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
    www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
      
      
    Iblis, who later became satan, used to be from AHLU ALLAH
    أهل الله (Family of Allah) when he was a pious Servant.  But because he and his followers disobeyed GOD Almighty, they were cursed and kicked out of the COMMUNITY OF GOD Almighty:
      
    www.answering-christianity.com/adam.htm
      
    So it is quite possible that Allah Almighty uses the WE to refer to Him and His Servants that HE spoke with directly and Commanded directly.  But even in that case, the WE still also means Allah Almighty Alone (the Majestic We), because Allah Almighty is the
     One and Only Decision Maker, and there is none other besides Him.
      
    I hope this helps, insha'Allah.
      
    Take care,
    Osama Abdallah

    Title: Re: Why does Allah call himself the best of creators
    Post by: Awesome31310 on July 29, 2016, 09:42:09 am
    Wow, thanks for the thorough analyses!

      

      

      

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    Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
     

    Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
      

    1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


    Coincidence?
      See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

    Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

    Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

     

    2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

    3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
      

           -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
           -  Is rotating around itself.
           -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
           -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
      

    "When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
      
    As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
    trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

     

    Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

      
    Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called
    slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


    Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

      

    John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
      

    John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

    GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.