1-  Saheeh Bukhari, 59:574:

Sam Shamoun thoroughly exposed:

From http://thefactsaboutislam.blogspot.com/2013/07/10000-or-12000-liberated-mecca-with.html:

Note:  The foul-mouthed Sam Shamoun quoted the 12,000 fighters that fought the tribe of HAWAZIN, two weeks after the liberation of Mecca.  He misquoted it and spun it to say that Mecca was liberated by 12,000 when his own quote says the Prophet marched to Hawazin with 2,000 Meccans in addition to the 10,000 Believers who liberated Mecca:

"Ibn Humayd- Salamah- Ibn Ishaq- 'Abdallah b. Abi Bakr: The Messenger MARCHED with 2,000 Meccans and 10,000 of his companions [who had marched with him and] WITH WHOSE HELP GOD HAD FACILITATED THE CONQUEST OF MECCA. THUS THERE WERE 12,000 IN ALL. The Messenger of God placed 'Attab b. Asid b. Abi al-'As b. Umayyah b. 'Abd Shams in charge of Mecca [to look after] the men who stayed behind while he proceeded to confront Hawazin." (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany 1990], Volume IX, p. 8; bold emphasis ours)"  (Source)

Here is a quote from Wikipedia:

"...Muhammad, however, uncovered their intentions through his own spies in the camp of the Hawazin, and marched against the Hawazin just two weeks after the conquest of Mecca with a force of 12,000 men."  (Source)

So the doomed-to-Hell polytheist trinitarian pagan and infidel is either a liar or ignorant.  Here is the full article:

10,000 or 12,000 Liberated Mecca With Prophet Muhammad? (p)

 

 

UPDATE: Please do view the comment section as the writer of the Christian missionary article further strengthened the thought that he was deliberately misleading people - he omitted the part of the citation from Al Tabari which mentions the 12,000 were confronting the Hawazin (not the Meccans)

I have just come across a Hadith from Sahih Al-Bukhari which confirms the number of soldiers with the Prophet Muhammad (p) upon the Conquest of Mecca were indeed TEN THOUSAND (10,000):

Narrated Ibn Abbas : The Prophet left Medina (for Mecca) in the company of ten-thousand (Muslim warriors) in (the month of) Ramadan, and that was eight and a half years after his migration to Medina. He and the Muslims who were with him, proceeded on their way to Mecca. He was fasting and they were fasting, but when they reached a place called Al-Kadid which was a place of water between 'Usfan and Kudaid, he broke his fast and so did they. (Az-Zuhri said, "One should take the last action of Allah's Apostle and leave his early action (while taking a verdict.")
  Hadith found in 'Military Expeditions led by the Prophet (pbuh) (Al-Maghaazi)' of Sahih Bukhari
http://www.searchtruth.com/book_display.php?book=59&number=574&start=0&translator=1


Original article (prior to the update above)


 

Recently I was reviewing a debate between a Muslim (Osama Abdallah) and a Christian (Anthony Rogers) on whether Muhammad is prophesized in the modern day Bible. Upon the discussion of the of whether Deut 33:2 referred to Prophet Muhammad (p) and his army of ten thousand who liberated Mecca (8AH) the Christian said something which went against what is stated by Muslim scholars and biography writers of Prophet Muhammad (p).

The Christian claimed Prophet Muhammad (p) had 12,000 soldiers with him not 10,000. I was baffled. In fact I reckon his Muslim opponent was baffled too.

What’s the correct number? 10,000 or 12,000?

The correct number is 10,000. This is confirmed by the world renowned biography writer, Safi-ur-Rahman Al Mubarakpuri in his seerah book, The Sealed Nectar:

After making full preparation, the Prophet (p) proceeded to Makkah at the head of TEN THOUSAND  soldiers on the 10^th of Ramadan, 8 A.H. [p461,Ar-Raheequl-Makhtum by Safi-ur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri, Darussalam, 2002]

Where did the Christian debater get the number 12,000 from?

He got it from a Christian missionary article by Sam Shamoun, who seems to be desperate to try and convince Christians that those Biblical references are not about Prophet Muhammad (p). Seemingly so desperate that he was willing to mislead his co-religionists. Here is the relevant part where the Christian debater (Anthony Rogers) got his misinformation from:

 

The final problem with Osama's claim is that according to Muslim sources, Muhammad did not enter Mecca with ten thousand soliders, but with twelve thousand! Renowned Muslim exegete and historian, al-Tabari, wrote:

 

"Ibn Humayd- Salamah- Ibn Ishaq- 'Abdallah b. Abi Bakr: The Messenger marched with 2,000 Meccans and 10,000 of his companions [who had marched with him and] with whose help God had facilitated the conquest of Mecca. Thus there were 12,000 in all ..." (The History of Al-Tabari: The Last Years of the Prophet, translated and annotated by Ismail K. Poonawala [State University of New York Press, Albany 1990], Volume IX, p. 8; bold emphasis ours)

 

Thus, Osama's key, foundational point connecting Muhammad with Deuteronomy 33:2 is not only utterly basely from a biblical perspective, but his claim of ten thousand Muslim soldiers doesn't even have the support of his own Muslim sources!

It's really interesting to note he only partially quoted from this reference from Al-Tabari, why? It's also interesting to note that the text he does quote even indicates it's not referring to the conquest of Mecca as it differentiates between the 10,000 companions and the 2,000 Meccans.

 Time to correct this Christian missionary so he stops misleading people.

The citation from Al-Tabari refers to the battle AFTER the conquest of Mecca. 10,000 were present for the conquest of Mecca and then 12,000 for a battle (Battle of Hunain) NINETEEN days after the conquest of Mecca:

Nineteen days after Allah’s Messenger entered Makkah, he left accompanied by twelve thousand Muslims. Ten thousand of those who had previously shared in the Makkah conquest. A great number of the other two thousand . who were Makkans, had recently embraced Islam. [p477,Ar-Raheequl-Makhtum by Safi-ur-Rahman Al-Mubarakpuri, Darussalam, 2002]

Conclusion

It seems the Christian missionary website is either deliberately misleading their readers or is so amateurish that its writer lacks reading comprehension, the ability to research and sense.

Our advice to Christians is, please do not rely on shoddy Christian missionary websites – they are not reliable and will make you look foolish.
 

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3297.msg16160#msg16160:

 Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Deuteronomy and the NT also make prophecy about the 10,000 believers, which only Islam fulfilled.  Yes, Prophet Muhammad is the expected Prophet, who was like Moses, peace be upon them both:

www.answering-christianity.com/10000.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/deuteronomy4_2.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

Isaiah 29:12 mentions the first Quran-Revelation upon Prophet Muhammad in Cave Hira by the name.  The Quran's first revelation upon Prophet Muhammad inside cave Hira.
  
  
Isaiah 29: Mentions Mecca's precise cave Hira (χιρα), Jireh, Quran & Muhammad.

Both Prophets received Al-Thikr (the Law). There are two Thikrs in the Glorious Quran:

1- Al-Thikr that was sent to Moses.
2- Al-Thikr that was sent to Muhammad.

Both Prophets also received:

1- Al-Kitab.
2- Al-Huda.
3- Al-Furqan.

The only Book "inherited" to them:

Also, the Book that was sent to Moses, peace be upon him, was the only one "inherited" by GOD Almighty to the Jews.  Visit the links above for more details and proofs.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

The Bible's 3 Babylons:

From www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php/topic,2537.msg11681.html#msg11681:

Question:

Salam aleikum,

I have found in answering-christianity.com the following Old Testament quotation: "Arabia has not yet met its threshold, and "and the time of her harvest shall come." (Jeremiah 51:33)

Where did the word Arabia appear in this verse ? It is about Babylon here not Arabia. I think this is an error to mention Arabia in Jeremiah 51:33, but maybe I'am wrong.

Answer:

Wa Alaikum As'salam dear brother Idris,

All other English translations, and also the Arabic one, say "THE DAUGHTER OF BABYLON".  We know that Arabia is called the Daughter of Babylon.  In fact, the Bible speaks about the fall of three Babylons:

1-  Babylon (the Assyrian one).  It fell to Islam.

2-  The VIRGIN DAUGHTER of Babylon (pagan Arabia).  It was a virgin because it had no official Divine Religion like Islam yet.  It fell to Islam.  This is the time when it began to meet its threshold.

3-  Future Babylon, THE GREAT HARLOT (prostitute).  It will fall to Islam after the return of Prophet Isa (Jesus), peace be upon him.


I have thoroughly demonstrated them from the Bible with ample passages with my debate with Anthony Rogers.  You can visit the MS-DOC file at:

www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/Debates%20Database%20Doc%20File.doc
www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/666.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/10000.htm

Bible & Quran declare:  Ishmael's Covenant is for the latter generations [2].

The prophecy of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible.  In the OT and renewed in the NT.  Also, the Bible's 3 Babylons thoroughly discussed here.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Question:

As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh dear brother Osama,

thank you for the explanation. Interesting, I didn't know about this, since I thought that Babylon is referring maybe to the territories of modern Iraq. The camel driver from Isaiah 21:7 is almost certainly Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), but which Babylon Isaiah has in mind two verses later (i.e. Isaiah 21:9)? Is he talking about Iraq or pagan Arabia ?

As to the Future Babylon, which is called "THE GREAT HARLOT", some Christians says that it refers to the Roman Catholic Church, precisely the Vatican, and it seems they have a pretty good argument.

Answer:

Wa Alaikum As'salam Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Idris,

You are most welcome, akhi.  Jazaka Allah Khayr.

As to Isaiah 21:7, we read:

From
www.answering-christianity.com/debate_templates.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/Debates%20Database%20Doc%20File.doc

Isaiah 21:7
Knox Bible (KNOX)
7 A chariot he saw, with two out-riders (chariots), one that rode on an ass (singular), and one that rode on a camel (singular); looked long at them, watching them eagerly.
   
NOTE:  A Chariot master is a Servant of GOD who is SENT BY GOD ALMIGHTY in the Bible: 1 Chronicles 28:18.
   
Also, Christ fulfilled the riding of the ass or donkey vision, when he entered Jerusalem on an ass, in John 12:14.
   
Also, “looked long at them, watching them eagerly.”  clearly means that these are two very important Servants.
   
   
8 And he cried, A lion: My lord, I stand continually upon the watchtower in the daytime, and I am set in my ward whole nights:

9 And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen; and all the graven images of her gods he (Muhammad, Islam) hath broken unto the ground.
…….
13 The burden upon Arabia….
   
   
Babylon did indeed fall before Islam and the Islamic nation under the guidance of Muhammad (peace be upon him) did indeed succeed in eradicating the worship of idols from Babylon replacing it with the worship of God alone.  In fact, the Muslims were the only believers in the God of Isaiah to ever succeed in fulfilling this prophesy.
   
   
 As to "The burden upon Arabia ..." (Isaiah 21:13), what does it mean?
   
"…which also means an oracle is a word sometimes used in the prophetical writings to indicate a divine message of judgment" (Scofield Study Bible New King James Version, note 1, p. 792)


   
The pagan religions of Arabia had all originated from Babel.  Pagan Arabia is called the Daughter of Babylon: Isaiah 47:1.
   
So “Babylon is fallen, is fallen” clearly refers to the fall of ALL OF THE IDOLS AND PAGAN RELIGIONS in all of the Arabic and Arabian lands.
   
In fact, Isaiah 47:1 and Jeremiah 51:33, give a mighty prophecy against the pagan religions of Arabia, and prophesied about its end, and replacement with a NEW DIVINE RELIGION.

Let’s read the two verses:
   
Isaiah 47:1 
Come down, and sit in the dust, O virgin daughter of Babylon, sit on the ground: there is no throne, O daughter of the Chaldeans: for thou shalt no more be called tender and delicate.
      
Now why was Arabia called VIRGIN DAUGHTER OF BABYLON?  Because the Arabs as I mentioned were fresh, and had no previous scriptures, nor religions.  Arabia was a virgin in that.  It had no previous religion, and it was ready for a Divine Religion to be sent to it, which is Islam!  Allah Almighty Said in the Holy Quran:
   
[034:043]  When Our Clear Signs are rehearsed to them, they say, "This is only a man who wishes to hinder you from the (worship) which your fathers practised." And they say, "This is only a falsehood invented!" and the Unbelievers say of the Truth when it comes to them, "This is nothing but evident magic!"
   
[034:044]  But We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent apostles to them before thee as Warners.

   
      
Furthermore, we read in Jeremiah 51:33:
   
Jeremiah 51:33
For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.
   
Arabia’s harvest is indeed the Divine Religion, Islam.  GOD Almighty’s Original Faith on Earth, and the RELIGION OF THE PEOPLE OF KEDAR is Islam.  Muhammad was the Servant of GOD Almighty to come, that was mentioned in Isaiah 41 & 42. 




The Great Harlot:

It is definitely quite possible that it includes the Catholic Church, since it is this church that cemented the false lie of trinity.  But most definitely, it does include all of the world's corruption, and also the people of Israel's part of it, since Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran did Promise that the Jews will RISE IN EARTH MIGHTY HIGHTS in corruption and wickedness.  They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8.  Please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/nuclear_doom_prophecy.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/dajjal.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/666.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/convert_christians.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/10000.htm

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Question:

As-Salam aleikum wa rahmatullahi wa baraketuh,

great pieces of info brother Osama! Jazaka Allah khayran akhi. So, we can conclude that Mecca and the desert of Arabia are hidden under many names: Paran, Zion, Baka, ...Babylon ?? Again, just for clarifying: the "Daughter of Babylon" is Mecca or Arabia ?

Answer:

As'salamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatu Allah Wa Barakatuh dear brother Idris,

I believe that a city or region like Mecca or Paran or Baka is mentioned, it does include all of Arabia, and vise versa.  When "Daughter of Babylon" is mentioned, it includes all of Arabia.  The people, whether pagan Ishmaelites or future Muslim ones, are the real target.  Not the lands necessarily.  Again, the Bible spoke about they have not yet met their threshold, and the time of their harvest shall come:

Jeremiah 51:33
For thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; The daughter of Babylon is like a threshingfloor, it is time to thresh her: yet a little while, and the time of her harvest shall come.


As to Daughter of Babylon, I believe it means Arabia, and not just Mecca.  And of course, Arabia does include Mecca.  Just like Babylon means ancient Assyria, and the future Babylon means the entire anti-Christ dajjal system.  So Babylon had always referred to vast lands, and not just cities.

  

Mecca was also precisely referenced in the old Scriptures.  The House of GOD Almighty will be established in the desert.  And people will come to it from all over the world.  That is a clear reference to Mecca.  For more details, please visit:

www.answering-christianity.com/walid_shoebat_islam_satan_rebuttal.htm#isaiah_34_35
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

I hope this helps, insha'Allah.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

Bible & Quran declare:  Ishmael's Covenant is for the latter generations [2].

The prophecy of the 10,000 Muslims who liberated Mecca (Paran) in the Bible.  In the OT and renewed in the NT.  Also, the Bible's 3 Babylons thoroughly discussed here.

From https://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?topic=3297.msg16160#msg16160:

 Wa Alaikum As'salam,

Deuteronomy and the NT also make prophecy about the 10,000 believers, which only Islam fulfilled.  Yes, Prophet Muhammad is the expected Prophet, who was like Moses, peace be upon them both:

www.answering-christianity.com/10000.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/deuteronomy4_2.htm
www.answering-christianity.com/predict.htm

Isaiah 29:12 mentions the first Quran-Revelation upon Prophet Muhammad in Cave Hira by the name.  The Quran's first revelation upon Prophet Muhammad inside cave Hira.
  
  
Isaiah 29: Mentions Mecca's precise cave Hira (χιρα), Jireh, Quran & Muhammad.

Both Prophets received Al-Thikr (the Law). There are two Thikrs in the Glorious Quran:

1- Al-Thikr that was sent to Moses.
2- Al-Thikr that was sent to Muhammad.

Both Prophets also received:

1- Al-Kitab.
2- Al-Huda.
3- Al-Furqan.

The only Book "inherited" to them:

Also, the Book that was sent to Moses, peace be upon him, was the only one "inherited" by GOD Almighty to the Jews.  Visit the links above for more details and proofs.

Take care,
Osama Abdallah

See also:  Islam's end of times STUNNING Prophecies section.

Zionist Israel will rule the earth with Mighty Evil!  (Islamic Prophecy)

The Glorious Quran declared 1,400 years ago that the Israeli Zionist machine will rule the entire earth with mighty evil and power.  They will reach "Mighty Heights" علوا كبيرا  of evil power and might on earth.  See Noble Verses 17:4-8:

The hijacked Bible.
  

Listen also to Jeremiah 18:1-10! .  No Prophecy is fixed.  All can be cancelled by the Almighty.
  

The 666 symbol is actually referring to today's neo-con Christianity and Zionism!  See the clear-cut proofs and images here.
  

Also see the sub-section: The Israeli 666 symbol.
  

Does the Bible predict the dividing of Israel?  Who are the nations that divided Israel?  And what will be their punishment?
  

The ONE-EYED Dajjal's Signs and Powers according to Islam.
  

Was the Islamic ONE-EYE Prophecy foretold before Islam in the Bible's Zechariah 11:17?
  

Sheikh Hamza Yusuf (Muslim convert Mark Hanson) on some of Islam's STUNNING End of Times Prophecies [1] [2] including ISIS:


  

Also visit this website's Youtube Channel at: www.youtube.com/QuranSearchCom.

Jesus' Original Name:

Prophet Jesus' original name was Eesa, as this is also his Islamic name.  Even in Latin, it is Iesu, and in Greek it is Iesus.  There is also a great deal of evidence that Jesus spoke and preached in Arabic.  Not only that, but Greek wasn't even that popular in Palestine.  Islam's claims are very strongly supported.  See proofs below.

Did early Christians preach Prophet Muhammad in Rome?

Did the early believers preach Prophet Muhammad in Corinth, Antioch, Rome and all other places?  Prophet Jesus, peace be upon him, was the Jews' Messiah and final Prophet.  In both the Glorious Quran and the Dead Sea Scrolls, Ahmed was prophesied to come.  Ahmed in the Quran is Prophet Muhammad's prophetic name.  Also, see below the Dead Sea Scroll image.  The New Testament too predicts the coming of three:

1.  Elijah.
2.  The Messiah.
3.  The Prophet.

John 1:19-21 and John 7:40-44.  Click on the images to expand:
  
    

So did the early believers preach the coming of Prophet Ahmed or Muhammad?  The answer is quite possible, but Muhammad would've been phase 2 for them and not phase 1.  Jesus was the early believers' immediate Prophet, not Muhammad.  And all of the details that they had were about Jesus, not Muhammad.  It is also important to know that the following seven Roman Emperors have thoroughly burned all of the early believers' writings:

1.  Nero (54-68)
2.  Domitian (81-96)
3.  Marcus Aurelius (161-180)
4.  Septimius Severus (193-211; up to a point)
5.  Maximinius I Thrax (235-8; up to a point)
6.  Trajanus Decius (249-251)
7.  Valerian (253-260)

Read all the details with references here.

What we have today from "gospels" and "New Testament" were written 80 years to 300 years after Jesus' departure from this earth.  So, the current writings that we have are not original writings.  Also, to appease the Roman Empire's 3-headed pagan religion and practices, the pagan 3-headed trinity was invented [1] [2] [3] [4] [5].  Many lies had been fabricated after the original writings were all lost.  The Jews and Christians of Arabia, however, did have writings that predicted the coming of Prophet Muhammad.  These were some of the original texts that survived.

From Why Jews settled in Arabia section:

Video and text are in the linked section above.

Jesus also preached in Arabic:

See the clear proofs in the following:

Prophet "AHMAD" is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls:
  
  

(Film in this article)
  
Prophet Muhammad in the previous Scriptures.  Prophet Muhammad was thoroughly foretold in the Bible, and his prophetic Name, "Ahmed", was also found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and it was mentioned precisely in the Glorious Quran for the Prophet to be foretold by this very Name, Ahmed [1] [2].

Here are some of my favorite Stunning Numerical and Scientific Miracles in the Glorious Quran that are listed in the main sections, below:

1-  The root for message and all of its derivatives, such as messenger and others occurs 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  The Prophets' and Messengers', peace be upon them, actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all combined mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  The detailed breakdown of all of this is thoroughly listed here.

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

2-  The Great Miracle.  Allah Almighty in the Holy Quran called the Number 19 Miracle "One of the Mighty Ones (Miracles)" (74:30-37) [1] [2].  See the 100s of Noble Verses that clearly testify to this Great Miracle.  Also, did you know that Allah Almighty Said in Surat Nuh (that's Noble Chapter Nuh (Noah)) that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years among his people. 

Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah is exactly written in 950 Letters [1] [2]!  You can thoroughly see this in the scanned images that thoroughly verify every single Noble Letter, in the links.  Click on the links to see the many other Numerical Miracles in the Holy Quran.  Also, see the Numerical Miracles section along with all of the other great sections.  Also, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.

  
3-  19 X 115 = 2185 Number 19 and BASMALA Miracle.  The total numerical value of Noble Verses 74:30-37 themselves, which are the heart of the Number 19 Miracle, has a stunning Miracle in it.  The value of these Noble Verses matches the multiplication of the BASMALA's number of letters (19 Letters) and their total numerical values (115): 19 X 115 = 2185.  The Basmala, which full text in Arabic means "In the Name of Allah The Most Beneficent, The Most Merciful" is the Key to the Glorious Quran.  It is recited first before reading the Holy Quran, and it is also obligatory upon every Muslim to start with the Basmala before starting any task.  Again, 1,000s of examples in zip & PDF (fonts) files all demonstrated in this article.
  

4-  The Glorious Quran has 114 Chapters. The sum of those Chapters is 6555 (1+2+...+114 = 6555). There are also 6236 Noble Verses in the Glorious Quran. Now, if you add each Chapter's number with the number of its Verses, then you get a list of numbers. So 1 (first Chapter) + 7 (# of its Verses) = 8.  Do this for all Chapters.

1-  The sum of the odd numbers from the list = 6555.
2-  The sum of the even numbers from the list = 6236.

See the XLS file for 100% confirmation.  Also, see the ample STUNNING Numerical Miracles in the Glorious Quran, with 1,000s of examples! [1] (zip file).

5-  Please also checkout the many hundreds (1,000s) of Great Numerical Miracles, and the many tens (10s) of other Great Scientific Miracles: