He Wrote:

So this Muslim ADMITS that if Mr. Sina were right that Mariyah was only a maid, then there would be a problem, thereby vindicating Mr. Sina. Fair enough.

Another Muslim writes (quite passionately I might add):

(Bassam Zawadi, Rebuttal to Ali Sina's article: "Mariyah the Sex Slave of the holy Prophet": https://www.answering-christianity.com/bassam_zawadi/rebuttaltoalisina9.htm)

My Response:

Well about Mariyah being a maid, I already posted a scholars view, on Mariyah the Copt, and he agrees that "Some sources say she was freed". So, while some sources say she was freed, others will say she wasn't. So Sam will post the ones which will show she WASN'T freed.

He Wrote:

Is Sina really lying? Could it be that Sina was perhaps mistaken? Maybe he read a source that erroneously claimed that Mariyah was Hafsa’s maid and failed to verify it? This doesn’t excuse Sina but only shows that he is fallible like the rest of us, and much like these Muslims as we shall see.

However, both of these Muslim reactions protest against the statement that she was only a slave or maid, and instead claim that she was Muhammad’s wife. Sina made a mistake. Mariyah was not Hafsa’s maid, she was Muhammad’s slave girl. But those Muslims do not attack this mistake, i.e. whose maid she was, but attack the claim that she was only a concubine and not a proper wife.

Are these Muslims correct that Mariyah wasn’t a maid at all? Is it true that Mariyah was Muhammad’s wife and not his concubine? Or could it be that these Muslims are not revealing everything by quoting only partially what is found in the early sources of Islam?

Well, in the final analysis, it is these Muslims who are trying to pull a fast one over their readers. They apparently assumed that their readers would blindly accept everything they wrote without verifying it for themselves. If they thought their readers weren’t naïve, gullible pawns, then they wouldn’t have dared to withhold the following important piece of data. There are MANY MUSLIM SCHOLARS that specifically deny that Mariyah was Muhammad’s wife, and have no shame admitting that she was nothing more than Muhammad’s slave. To silence this slander of Ali Sina we will quote some Muslim writings and websites which agree with him. All bold, underline and capital emphasis will be entirely ours.

My Response:

Now, the fun begins...

He Wrote:

My Response:

He Wrote:

The famous Sunni commentator and historian al-Tabari wrote:

At first sight, Tabari seems to agree with Ali Sina’s Muslim detractors since he says that Mariyah was Muhammad’s wife. Yet, this impression is wrong, and changes when we read his later comments:

And:

845. That is, Mariyah was ordered to veil herself as did the Prophet’s wives, BUT HE DID NOT MARRY HER … (Ibid., p. 194)

My Response:

He Wrote:

It is obvious what Tabari meant when saying that Mariyah was one of Muhammad’s wives. He wasn’t denying she was his slave girl, his concubine, but was using "wife" in the sense of one whom Muhammad slept with and who mothered his child.

More importantly, both these Muslims quoted Ibn Kathir and gave the impression that he denied that Mariyah was Muhammad’s slave. Notice the quotation provided by these Muslims:

The careful reader will see Ibn Kathir’s qualification, "IS SAID", which shows uncertainty on his part whether she did indeed become his wife. Now here is what Ibn Kathir does explicitly say, which the authors again failed to share with their readers:

My Response:

(Source: http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?pagename=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE&cid=1119503545776)

He Wrote:

Ibn Kathir expressly says that whereas Muhammad owned and then married Safiyyah and Juwayriyah he doesn’t say this for Mariyah. He simply says that Mariyah was one of those prisoners whom he owned.

Finally, al-Tabari’s date poses major problems for those who wish to assert that Muhammad married Mariyah. According to Sura 33:52 Muhammad was forbidden from taking on anymore wives with the exception of concubines:

According to the late scholar Sayyid Abu Ala’ Maududi this Sura was complied at A.H. 5 or A.D. 628/629:

Tabari says that al-Muqawqis sent Mariyah as a gift to Muhammad in the year A.H. 7, or roughly two years after the composition of Sura 33. The Muslim authors quote one online source which places Mariyah’s arrival to Medina after the signing of the treaty of Hudaibiyah, also implying that she arrived roughly around the time of A.H. 7:

Thus, if Muhammad did marry Mariyah he did so in clear violation of the Quranic command forbidding him from taking any more wives!

My Response:

(Source: http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=33&tid=41988)

Ibn Kathir also says:

So this will silence Sam on his interpretation.

(NOTE: According to Maududi, this Sura was revealed in A.H. 5, but according to Yusuf Ali , some ayats in this Sura, mainly Ayat 52 was revealed in A.H. 7, which is the year Mariyah was presented to the Holy Prophet:

(Source: The Quran: Text translation and Commentary by Abdullah Yusuf Ali, Footnote#3754)

He Wrote:

Maududi even emphatically denied that Mariyah was Muhammad’s wife:

In light of the foregoing, it is time to return to the comments made by one of Sina’s detractors. Bahagia stated that:

Since we have documented that Mariyah was indeed Muhammad’s maid, his slave or concubine, this means that we certainly do have a problem. Mr. Sina stands vindicated at least in regards to her status as a maid, even though he mistakenly assumed that she was Hafsah’s maid.

My Response:

"Reviewing the marriages of Prophet Muhammad individually one does not fail to find the actual reasons behind these marriages. They may be classified as follows:

1. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came to the world as an ideal model for mankind, and he was in all aspects of his life. Marriage in particular is a striking illustration. He was the kindest, most loving and charitable husband. He had to undertake all stages of human experience and moral tests. He lived with one wife and with more than one, with the old and the young, with the widow and the divorcee, with the pleasant and the temperamental, and with the renowned and the humble. But, in all cases be was the epitome of kindness and consolation, and so designated to experience all the different aspects of human behavior and situations. This could not have been a physical pleasure; it was a moral trial as well as a human task, and a hard one too.

2. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) came to establish morality and assure every Muslim of security, protection, moral integrity and a decent life. His mission was put to the test in his life and it did not stay in the stationary form of theory. As usual, he took the hardest part and did his share in the most inconvenient manner. Wars and persecution burdened the Muslims with many widows, orphans and divorcees. They had to be protected and maintained by the surviving Muslim men. It was his practice to help these women become resettled by marriage to his Companions. The Companions rejected some women and so some of those women sought his personal patronage and protection. Realizing fully their conditions and sacrifices for the cause of Islam, he had to do something to relieve them. One course of relief was to take them as his own wives and accept the challenge of heavy liabilities. So he did so and maintained more than one wife at a time when it was no fun or easy course. He had to take part in the rehabilitation of those widows, orphans and divorcees because he could not ask his Companions to do things that he himself was not prepared to do or participate in. These women were trusts of the Muslims and they had to be looked after jointly. What he did, then, was his share of responsibility, and as always his share was the largest and heaviest. That is why he had more than one wife and more than any of his Companions.

3. There were many prisoners of war captured by the Muslims who were entitled to security and protection. They were not killed or denied their rights: human or physical. On the contrary, they were helped to settle down through legal marriages to Muslims instead of being taken as concubines and common mistresses. That also was another moral burden on the Muslims, which had to be shouldered jointly as a common responsibility. Here, again, Muhammad carried his share and took some responsibilities by marrying two of those captives.

4. The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) contracted some of his marriages for sociopolitical reasons. His principal concern was the future of Islam. He was interested in strengthening the Muslims by all bonds. That is why he married the young daughter of Abu Bakr, his First Successor, and the daughter of `Umar, his Second Successor. It was by his marriage to Juwayriyyah that he gained the support for Islam of the whole clan of Bani Al-Mustaliq and their allied tribes. It was through marriage to Safiyyah that he neutralized a great section of the hostile Jews of Arabia. By accepting Mariyah, the Copt from Egypt, as his wife, he formed a political alliance with a king of great magnitude. It was also a gesture of friendship with a neighboring king that Muhammad married Zaynab who was presented to him by the Negus of Abyssinia in whose territory the early Muslims found safe refuge.

5. By contracting most of these marriages, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) meant to eliminate the caste or class system, racial and national pride and superiority, and religious prejudices. He married some of the humblest and poorest women. There was his marriage to Mariyah from Egypt, a Jewish woman of a different religion and race, and a Negro girl from Abyssinia. He was not satisfied with merely teaching brotherhood and equality: actions speak louder than words.

6. Some of the Prophet's marriages were for legislative reasons and to abolish certain corrupt traditions. Such was his marriage to Zaynab, divorcee of the freed slave Zayd. Before Islam, the Arabs did not allow divorcees to remarry. Zayd was adopted by the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) and called his son as was the custom among the Arabs before Islam. But Islam abrogated this custom and disapproved of its practice. Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him) was the first man to express this disapproval in a practical way. So he married the divorcee of his "adopted" son to show that adoption does not really make the adopted child a real son of the adopting father and also to show that marriage is lawful for divorcees. Incidentally, this very Zaynab was Muhammad's cousin, and had been offered to him in marriage before she married Zayd. He refused her then, but after she was divorced he accepted her for the two legislative purposes: the lawful marriage of divorcees and the real status of adopted children. The story of this Zaynab has been associated in some minds with ridiculous fabrications regarding the moral integrity of Muhammad. These vicious fabrications are not even worth considering here (see Qur'an, 33: 36, 37, 40).

These are the circumstances accompanying the Prophet's marriages. For the Muslims there is no doubt whatsoever that Muhammad had the highest standards of morality and was the perfect model for mankind under all circumstances. To non-Muslims we appeal for a serious discussion of the matter. Then, they may be able to reach sound conclusions."
(Source: Islam In Focus by Hammudah Abdalati p. 177-178)

(Source: Sirat-Un-Nabi by Allama Shibli Nu'Mani p. 153 Vol 2 )

Now here is the most hilarious part of this article:

"Mr. Sina stands vindicated at least in regards to her status as a maid, even though he mistakenly assumed that she was Hafsah’s maid"

Did he mistakenly do it, or intentionally?? So as you can see, Sam agrees Ali is "mistaken" or how I like to put it, a liar .

In response to Maududi, here is proof, which shows Mariyah wasn't just a slave:

(Sirat Un Nabi, p.153 Vol.II)

This was the reply to the Prophet's letter given by Muqauqis, BUT what I want you to note is where he says "two girls who are higly respected among the Qibtis". Here the author of this wonderful book, comments:

So as I said, I will post the sources which agree she was the Prophet (S) wife, and most likely she was. So Sam Shamoun when you laugh at Bahagia, and me and Brother Bassam Zawadi, just note that the joke is on you!

Allah Knows Best!