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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [
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The following was sent to me by a Muslim brother who requested to remain anonymous, may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.


The Second Treatise of the Great Seth:

The manuscripts traces back to the second and fourth century CE. Theological analysis reveals a crucifixion account taken from the Basilides.

And the plan which they advised about me to release their error and their senselessness- I did not succumb to them as they had planned. But I was not afflicted at all. Those who were there punished me. And I did not die in reality but in appearance, lest I be put to shame by them because these are my kinsfolk… For my death which they think happened, (happened) to them in their error and blindness, since they nailed their man unto their death… for they were deaf and blind… Yes, they saw me, they punished me. It was another, their father, who drank the gall of the vinegar, it was not I. They struck me with the reed; it was another, Simon, who bore the cross on his shoulder. It was another upon whom they placed the crown of thorns… And I was laughing at their ignorance… For I was altering my shapes, changing from form to form.

The message is clear, it was not Jesus rather it was Simon the Cyrene who was crucified.

(http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/2seth.html)

 

Simon The Cyrene:

As we learned from the Second Treatise of the Great Seth, Simon the Cyrene bore the cross instead of Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). Actually, this very idea could be even demonstrated by examining the current canonical gospels.

New American Bibles:

Mark 15:"

21 They pressed into service a passer-by, Simon, a Cyrenian, who was coming in from the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to carry his cross.

22 They brought him to the place of Golgotha (which is translated Place of the Skull).

23 They gave him wine drugged with myrrh, but he did not take it.

24 Then they crucified him and divided his garments by casting lots for them to see what each should take.

25 It was nine o'clock in the morning when they crucified him."

Luke 23:"

26 As they led him away they took hold of a certain Simon, a Cyrenian, who was coming in from the country; and after laying the cross on him, they made him carry it behind Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

27 A large crowd of people followed Jesus, including many women who mourned and lamented him.

28 Jesus turned to them and said, "Daughters of Jerusalem, do not weep for me; weep instead for yourselves and for your children,

29 for indeed, the days are coming when people will say, 'Blessed are the barren, the wombs that never bore and the breasts that never nursed.'

30 At that time people will say to the mountains, 'Fall upon us!' and to the hills, 'Cover us!'

31 for if these things are done when the wood is green what will happen when it is dry?"

32 Now two others, both criminals, were led away with him to be executed.

33 When they came to the place called the Skull, they crucified him [Jesus] and the criminals there, one on his right, the other on his left.

34 Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do." They divided his garments by casting lots."

Now considering the two reading above, we note the following:

1) Simon carried the cross of Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him). No where does it say that Jesus bore it also at the same time (see also Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus).

2) The above never mentioned that the cross was given back to Jesus

3) If we trace the word "him" in Luke 23:33, we notice the word "Jesus" next to it. However, this word was placed instead of the word "him" to remove the confusion that may occur while reading the above. An average reader could possibly understand the word "him" as referring to Simon not Jesus himself.

Also, a useful quotation about what the NAB Bible theologians say about Luke 23:34 may help understand the case ahead.

[34] [Then Jesus said, "Father, forgive them, they know not what they do."]: this portion of Luke 23:34 does not occur in the oldest papyrus manuscript of Luke and in other early Greek manuscripts and ancient versions of wide geographical distribution.

The word "him" could actually refer to Simon. When considering the points outlined above, any reader could read it as if it is referring to Jesus, but he could as well read it and understand as if it is referring to Simon. However, this could give us a clue as to why some Christian sect who existed prior to the departure of Jesus believed that it was Simon not Jesus who bore the cross and eventually crucified.

 

 

 

 

 

 

The lie of crucifixion according to several Disciples' writings.


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The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [
1]

   
  
  


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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?
  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  

       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called
slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.