Also, listen to:
Christian_Prince's own comments on Nadir Ahmed.
Sex with animals: Is Nadir Ahmed (N/A) really a mentally stable person?
The sections of this article are:
1- Nadir Ahmed and his emotional and psychological problems.
- Audio excerpts from NA's debate with christian_prince proving my points on him.
2- Jalal Abualrub's ridiculous support to him despite the fact that the
Truth about NA was make very clear to him.
3- Conclusion.
This article is a refutation and an exposition to Nadir Ahmed's stupidity and
absurdities that are located at:
http://www.examinethetruth.com/cp_debate.htm.
1- Nadir Ahmed and his emotional and psychological problems:
I normally don't like to talk this way, because it is definitely not my style to put down my internet foes unless they absolutely deserve it, and I always address the reasonable ones among them with "Mr. or Mrs. such and such," but Nadir Ahmed, who nicknames himself as "MonkyPox" on paltalk has got to be, by far, the stupidest, most obnoxious and most mentally unstable person ever appeared on the internet! He adopts childish and immature attitude in his debates and toward his enemies and he always boasts that all of his foes are "scared" from him, when in reality all what they're doing is letting him bark all by himself.
1. nadir_thinks_people_scared_of_him_1.mp3.
2. nadir_thinks_people_scared_of_him_2.mp3.
3.
david_wood_exposes_nadirs_lie.mp3. This clip was taken from
trinity10.mp3, which Nadir removed from
his page and only kept the 1 through 9 audio files.
Update: The
trinity10.mp3 clip was added back on his site, and he now changed all
of the names of the mp3 files.
4. Nadir claims that I am jealous of him.
Despite the fact that he is in his mid 30s, this childish individual is not only mentally unstable and obviously lacks self-esteem and confidence, but he also lives in his own unique lala world where all of his imaginary foes are always soundly defeated by him!
In this article, we will see how this individual has not only FALSELY and UNJUSTLY proven that Islam allows sex with animals when it doesn't, but ironically, he declared in boast on his site a sound victory and a total humiliation to the person whom he was debating, Christian_Prince, when in reality the latter had literally wiped the floor with him in the debate. Now if this debate was only limited to NA and his lala world, then I most certainly would not have "butted in" into this, because (1) it would be non of my business, and (2) I don't have time to fool around with this self-proclaimed monkey. But when the matter involves Islam and spreading the SICKEST LIES against Islam, then this becomes very personal to me!
So having now established this ground on NA, his lala world and his weird personality, let us now take a look at his debate with christian_prince to settle the score and shed the real Islamic Truth to the reader regarding Islam's morality and its views on sex. First and foremost, it is important to know that Islam not only prohibits sex with animals, but Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, ordered the execution (killing) of those who are caught having sex with animals! Please visit my rebuttals to christian_prince's points that he made to NA and see how I have soundly debunked all of his lies against Islam and the Prophet of Islam, by Allah Almighty's Grace and Will, and actually demonstrated and proved that he fabricated lies on Prophet's Muhammad's (peace be upon him) mouth.
The following are audio excerpts of Nadir getting soundly humiliated in the debate:
1- Christian_Prince's claims:
While I would love to post a link to CP's audio clip by itself to make it easier for the reader to download it and listen to it, but I am afraid that the enemies of GOD Almighty would only link to the audio clip and not to this article in their discussions with Muslims, and use my site to make false charges against Islam. So if you wish to listen to CP's points, then please either download my entire 60 megs of AUDIO rebuttal to all of his lies and fabrication of quotes (I have demonstrated and proven that he actually and purposely fabricated quotes), or read my text-rebuttals to him below and then you be the judge between us. I have also written two article-rebuttals, one for CP and the other for Sam Shamoun, on this subject, and also demonstrated with clear-cut proofs that Christian_Prince LIED and fabricated quotes because he knew that Nadir Ahmed did not speak Arabic. Nadir Ahmed is from India and only speaks Urdu and English. CP knew that and he took full advantage of it.
The following are text-rebuttals to CP and Sam Shamoun:
Does Islam really allow having sex with animals? To Sam Shamoun.
Irrefutable proofs that between her "shiaab (shiaabuha)" means between her two ARMS and two LEGS. To Christian_Prince.
Sex with animals is forbidden in Islam. To Christian_Prince.
Ample Islamic References about sex with animals being forbidden!
2- Nadir accepting cp's sex with animals points:
1. nadir_monkying_around_the_points_2.mp3. (Nadir Ahmed and his defense got smoked very badly)
2. nadir_monkying_around_the_points_1.mp3. (Nadir Ahmed here got also smoked here as well)
3. nadir_accepts_cps_argument_1.mp3.
4. nadir_accepts_cps_argument_2.mp3.
5. nadir_accepts_cps_argument_3.mp3.
6. nadir_accepts_cps_argument_4.mp3.
7. nadir_sex_with_animals_3.mp3
8. Christian_Prince's own comments on Nadir Ahmed. (A latter recording of CP)
Now before we pursue, I just want to make it clear that I am not here saying that Nadir Ahmed was expected to answer cp's points thoroughly on the fly. He is a human, and like all of us, he may not always know the answer to everything in the subject. But for him to declare a sound victory, as he always falsely does, and to advertise his garbage on the net for everyone to see becomes quite harmful to Islam and to the Muslim listeners' faith, and it would also drive away non-Muslims from Islam because they would truly believe that Islam allows sex with animals.
| Very important note: Nadir Ahmed tried to play yet another stupid game by claiming that I am a liar because in all of these audios he didn't straight forward give-in to Christian_Prince's charges. However, what the mentally-retarded moron entirely missed, or is playing stupid on, is that he clearly and indisputably sounded as one denying the evidence from sheer desperation. Nadir Ahmed was practicing denial through desperation. He clearly sounded as one who deep inside believed that CP was right but continued to reject his evidence anyway because he was his opponent. What this mental case, NA, is missing is that his entire debate, as a whole, clearly propagates the sick lie about Islam allowing sex with animals! CP continued to challenge NA to refute his quotes and NA continued to miserably fail to do so. NA's denial here is irrelevant! Plus, in all of the above audios, as I said, NA clearly sounded like he actually believe in or knew that CP's points were actually valid. That's the point that this mental case is entirely missing! |
3- Nadir would rather have sex with animals than to slam babies up against rocks (as the Bible says):
1. nadir_sex_with_animals_1.mp3.
2. nadir_sex_with_animals_2.mp3.
3. nadir_sex_with_animals_3.mp3
4. nadir_sex_with_animals_4.mp3.
NA in these audios has, again, accepted christian_prince's lies and false points about Islam allowing sex with animals. His only defense was that nothing is worse than slamming babies up against rocks like the Bible commands. The problem with his argument is the following:
1. While it is true that the gospel of porn (the book that sings glory-songs and praises about women's vaginas and breasts literally tasting like "wine"), in the Old Testament, commands the slamming of innocent babies' heads up against rocks, but this still does not answer the problem about Islam supposedly allowing sex with animals. The bible here is irrelevant!
2. Islam's supposed permission to have sex with animals is far worse than the bible's terrorism against innocent infants/babies, because while the bible's terrorism is limited, but Islam's corruption would spread AIDS and the filthiest immoralities one can ever imagine among all Muslims! AIDS is definitely a worse killer than slamming babies up against rocks.
Again to the reader, Islam not only prohibits sex with animals, but Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, ordered the execution (killing) of those who are caught having sex with animals! Please visit my rebuttals to christian_prince's points that he made to NA and see how I have soundly debunked all of his lies against Islam and the Prophet of Islam, by Allah Almighty's Grace and Will, and actually demonstrated and proved that he fabricated lies on Prophet Muhammad's (peace be upon him) mouth.
4- Nadir monkeying around christian_prince's points:
Nadir could not answer many of christian_prince's lies, and kept dancing around them throughout the debate in a hope to fool the listener:
Note: CP fabricated these quotes because Nadir does not speak Arabic and I clearly demonstrated it and exposed CP's lies in my AUDIO and Text rebuttals above. Not only that, but Prophet Muhammad, again and again, commanded the killing of those who are caught having sex with animals!
1. nadir_monkying_around_the_points_2.mp3. (Nadir Ahmed and his defense got smoked very badly)
2. nadir_monkying_around_the_points_1.mp3. (Nadir Ahmed here got also smoked here as well)
5- Nadir wholeheartedly thinks he beat cp:
1. nadir_thinks_he_beat_cp.mp3.
6- Nadir wholeheartedly thinks he "humiliated" cp:
1. nadir_thinks_he_humiliated_cp.mp3.
On his site, he wrote:
Answering-Islam.org’s
“Christian_prince” also known as Christianity's "Borat"
Humiliated
in debate, then RUNS AWAY!!!
The emphasis of fonts and colors are all his.
And again, listen to Christian_Prince's own comments on Nadir Ahmed. (A latter recording of CP)
7- Nadir admits that everything cp said is in PENDING status (still unanswered):
1. nadir_backing_down_from_debate_1.mp3.
Again, on his not applicable (NA) site, NA declares that he "humiliated" cp. Yet, he admits in this audio clip that everything cp said was yet to be responded to!
8- Nadir lied when he said that cp ran away from him:
1. nadir_lied_about_cp_running_away.mp3.
2- The support of Jalal Abualrub to him despite the fact that the Truth about NA was make very clear to him:
Let me once again bring the salafi-dajjal (rubbish talker) and liar, Jalal Abualrub, to justice for linking monkypox's (NA nicknames himself as such) site on his web site's main page, despite the fact that the Truth about NA was made very clear to him. Now to the ordinary and reasonable person, NA should not be linked to, but because we're dealing with salafi thugs and gangs here and not with sincere Truth-seekers and scholars, therefore anything that a non-salafi says is automatically rejected and considered false even if the price is harming Islam in the sickest and ugliest falsehoods!
Jalal Abualrub of Islamlife, who's been soundly exposed as a liar and takfiri (one who declares other Muslims as infidels) salafi on this web site, has, once again, proven himself to be a real joke and not one who should be taken seriously. To leave no doubt about my claims about him, let us look at the following proofs:
1- Images of the dajjal's main page where he linked to NA's site:
AND
It is truly funny how this salafi-slime is concerned about fast-forwarding the music and is not concerned at all about Nadir Ahmed promoting the sickest lie about Islam supposedly allowing sex with animals on his site!
Note: Many Orthodox Muslims don't listen to any music, because they consider all music sinful. This is, however, a controversial topic and not all Orthodox Muslims agree with this. But all Muslims, however, including myself, agree that any song or music that contains sinful words or tones in it is definitely forbidden in Islam.
2- An email (from many)
warning many people, including the dajjal, about monkypox' danger to Islam:
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 20:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Osama Abdallah" <quransearch_com@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book Add
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Subject: My wish and I hope I'll be heard!
To: nadir@examinethetruth.com, sami-zaatari@hotmail.com,
orthodox786@hotmail.com, ahsen@amalik.com, islamlife@gmail.com,
faruuk19@yahoo.com, b_zawadi@hotmail.com, wildcat5653@yahoo.com, jamesmarlandson@hotmail.com,
"sam shamoun" <sam_shmn40@hotmail.com>
As'salamu Alaikum,
Dear brother (or not brother) Nadir,
I sincerely hope that you stop living in your own delusional and pathetic world
of self-praising hoaxes and lies and get real and get a life!! While I respect
and admire your sincere intentions to serve Islam, but brother please, stop
embarassing yourself and bringing Islam down with you!
I listened to your "trinity" debate, and I must say that there is hardly
anything in it about trinity. Your arguments, while some of them were good, but
most of them were either irrelevant or too lame. Quite frankly, I am tired of
you making Islam look bad! I really don't see how anyone could anyone take your
site seriously and link to it. I think it is time for you Nadir Ahmed to get the
sad Truth about your ability to debate and that is:
You simply can not debate, period!
Please move on, take down your debates with christian_prince about sex with
animals (even the dajjal jalal abualrub thought
you were "too stupid"
in this one....his words, not mine),
with sam shamoun about muta (ironically you have a bomb image on it) and stop
embarassing yourself and most importantly misrepresenting Islam! You really have
problem in formulating good arguments.
I am dying to know about how in this world you think you have won those two
debates that I just mentioned, especially the one with christian_prince about
sex with animals??
Your sex with animals debate:
Let me blow away your lame and ridiculous challenge to christian_prince about
how is sex with animals worse than slamming babies up against rocks:
1- The gospel of porn is irrelevant here, because if the Prophet of Islam had
indeed a sheep or goat girlfriend or lover or whore (call it as you wish) during
his Prophethood, then Islam not only is a religion that spread AIDS, but also
Islam is a religion that spreads the filthiest immoralities one can ever
imagine!!!!
During your debate, which you sounded "too stupid" in, you not only left that
point unanswered but you also ACCEPTED IT by telling CP that we'll
hypothetically assume that your argument is true. Yet, you declare that you
"humiliated" CP in that debate??? Man you must be on dog food!
2- The gospel of porn is a book of terrorism as www.answering-christianity.com
clearly proved that with countless biblical passages, but this terrorism is
still lesser than sex with animals, because while terrorism kills few here and
there due to political and religious violance, but sex with animals KILLS ENTIRE
NATIONS both morally and physically!
My advise:
Remove the debates, or better yet, remove your entire embarrasing web site.
That's my humble advise, and I strongly recommend for you to take it.
Take care,
Osama Abdallah
3- Conclusion:
Given the indisputable evidence above, there is no question that Nadir Ahmed is a mentally unstable person who suffers from psychological disorder. He seems to want to grab any attention to himself even if it means making a total joke out of himself. There are people who are like Nadir out there. These people are usually considered emotionally ill, because they are so irrational in most of the things they do in their lives. I most definitely and certainly would not have smashed a Muslim if Islam was not badly compromised. I advised Nadir Ahmed via email with so many emails, and before many people on the email list, to remove this audio debate with christian_prince and another one that he has on his site, which I will get to soon insha'Allah, and thoroughly demonstrated to him how he is wrong and how he is badly hurting Islam. He insisted on being stubborn and dumb.