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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

   
  
  

Did Jews continually try to stone Jesus prove that he claimed to be GOD? 

The sections of this article are:

- Did Jews continually try to stone Jesus prove that he claimed to be GOD?
- So what did Jesus say or do to cause the Jews to try to stone him?
- So what about Jesus being worshiped in the Bible?   Wouldn't that prove that
  he is GOD?
- Jesus claimed that whoever saw him saw the Father.  Wouldn't that prove that
  Jesus is GOD Himself (i.e., the Creator of the Universe)?

For what reason were the Jews continually trying to stone Jesus?  Wouldn't that prove that Jesus claimed to be GOD?  At least according to the current Bible?

This is what the Trinitarian Christians like to believe.  They believe that since Jesus did miracles such as bringing the dead back to life, curing the blind, and healing the sick, then this without a doubt make him GOD Almighty Himself.  And now they claim that since the Jews continually tried to stone Jesus, then he must without a doubt be GOD Almighty Himself.

My response to the Trinitarian Christians is simple, Jesus was not unique in anything, except he was born from a virgin (see my response)!

People too in the Bible's Old Testament did bring the dead back to life, cure the blind and heal the sick.  How about considering them GOD Almighty Himself also?  Read 1 Kings 17:22, 2 Kings 4:34, 2 Kings 6:17,20, 2 Kings 5:14, and 2 Kings 4:44 for more details.

And yes, the Jews did cause for several other Prophets to be stoned and killed before Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  How about considering these Prophets GOD Almighty Himself?  Let us look at what Jesus said about the Jews killing their Prophets: 

"O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing.  (From the NIV Bible, Matthew 23:37)"

Here we clearly see that Jesus peace be upon him is giving up on the Jews.  He preached the Truth to them for 3 years and saw not much fruits from them.  He instead, saw nothing but arrogance and stubbornness.

 

So what did Jesus say or do to cause the Jews to try to stone him?

As we clearly saw above, the Jews stoned and killed many Prophets of GOD Almighty.   These Prophets were not GOD or part of GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Jesus is no different.  He too was rejected by the Jews when he brought the Truth to them.  Let us look at what he said that caused the Jews to try to stone him:

"'I tell you the truth,' Jesus answered, 'before Abraham was born, I am!'  At this, they picked up stones to stone him, but Jesus hid himself, slipping away from the temple grounds.  (From the NIV Bible, John 8:58-59)"

Jesus existing before Abraham doesn't prove that he is GOD Almighty.  In the Old Testament, the Bible presents Jeremiah as being a prophet before he was conceived in his mother's womb; "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations.  (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 1:5)"   Yet no one says that his pre-human existence qualifies him for deity.  

And as to "I am" that Jesus used, no it wasn't the same "I am" that GOD Almighty used in the Old Testament.  GOD used "HO ON", while Jesus used "EGO EIMI".   If Jesus wanted to tell the Jews that he was claiming to be God he should have at least remained consistent in the use of words or the whole point is lost. How many people in that age would have said "I am," in answer to questions in everyday life. Billions. Are they all gods? Of course not!

Please visit Jesus saying "I am" for more details and proofs.

Another similar incident where Jesus was going to be stoned is Jesus saying "I and the Father are One."

The Jews thought in John 10:30-33 that Jesus claimed to be God.  He responded to them by saying: 

"Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, 'I have said you are gods'?  If he called them 'gods,' to whom the word of God came--and the Scripture cannot be broken--what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world? Why then do you accuse me of blasphemy because I said, 'I am God's Son'?  (From the NIV Bible, John 10:34-36)" 

At first, they thought Jesus was claiming to be GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  Then, he refuted them by saying that he only claimed to be the Son of God, as GOD Almighty had many Sons in the Bible before Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

Again, there is no proof what so ever that Jesus peace be upon him was GOD Almighty or the Creator of the Universe.  In the section below, you will see how Jesus refuted those who tried to praise him as GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

 

So what about Jesus being worshiped in the Bible?   Wouldn't that prove that he is GOD?

Please visit Do People and Angels bowing down to Jesus in Worship really prove that he is the Creator of the Universe?   See how the word "Worship" used for Jesus in the English-translated Trinitarian Bibles doesn't even exist in the original Greek Bibles.   The Trinitarian English translations are nothing but hoaxes and deceptions.   See also how Jesus refuted those who dared to praise him as GOD (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  I wonder why the Trinitarian Christians insist on ignoring this fact about Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

 

Jesus claimed that whoever saw him saw the Father.   Wouldn't that prove that Jesus is GOD Himself (i.e., the Creator of the Universe)?

Please visit Jesus claimed that whoever saw him saw the Father.  Wouldn't that prove that Jesus is GOD Himself (i.e., the Creator of the Universe)?

 





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What is the place of Jews, Christians and non-Muslims in Islam?   

Muhammad was foretold in the Bible by Isaiah, John and Jesus (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).   

Does the Bible really claim that the Jews are GOD's "Chosen People"?  See how Moses, Jesus and several other Prophets in the Bible never liked the Jews, and how the Jews had corrupted the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).

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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

   
  
  


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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  
       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.