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The "great nation" of Ishmael and its definition in the Bible:
The sections of this article are:
1- The "great nation" of Ishmael and its
definition in the Bible.
2- The Arabs, whom Islam came from, are the descendents of Ishmael, and they are the "great nation" along with all Muslims.
3- GOD's Covenant was taken from the Jews and given to the Muslims in the Bible.
The Biblical verses of Genesis 17:20 and Deuteronomy 4:7-8 were sent to me by brother firstname.lastname@example.org; may Allah Almighty always be pleased with him.
Let us look at the verses from the NIV Bible:
"And as for Ishmael, I have heard you: I will surely bless him; I will make him fruitful and will greatly increase his numbers. He will be the father of twelve rulers, and I will make him into a great nation. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 17:20)"
"What other nation is so great as to have their gods near them the way the LORD our God is near us whenever we pray to him? And what other nation is so great as to have such righteous decrees and laws as this body of laws I am setting before you today? (From the NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 4:7-8)"
In the above verses, we first see a clear promise from GOD Almighty that He will make a "great nation" from Ishmael's descendents. We then see the definition of "great nation" as being a nation that directly receives a Law from GOD Almighty.
This is all great and agreeing with Islam. Let us look at what Allah Almighty said about the Jewish Law in the Noble Quran:
"It was We who revealed the law (to Moses): therein was guidance and light. By its standard have been judged the Jews, by the prophets who bowed (as in Islam) to God's will, by the rabbis and the doctors of law: for to them was entrusted the protection of God's book, and they were witnesses thereto: therefore fear not men, but fear me, and sell not my signs for a miserable price. If any do fail to judge by (the light of) what God hath revealed, they are (no better than) Unbelievers. (The Noble Quran, 5:44)"
The Law of the Muslims is the Noble Quran:
"Forbidden to you (for food) are: dead meat, blood, the flesh of swine, and that on which hath been invoked the name of other than God; that which hath been killed by strangling, or by a violent blow, or by a headlong fall, or by being gored to death; that which hath been (partly) eaten by a wild animal; unless ye are able to slaughter it (in due form); that which is sacrificed on stone (altars); (forbidden) also is the division (of meat) by raffling with arrows: that is impiety. This day have those who reject faith given up all hope of your religion: yet fear them not but fear Me. This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion. But if any is forced by hunger, with no inclination to transgression, God is indeed Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. (The Noble Quran, 5:3)"
The Arabs, whom Islam came from, are the descendents of Ishmael, and they are the "great nation" along with all Muslims:
No knowledgeable Muslim would deny Judaism. Judaism was the "light" of the Jews according to the Noble Quran as I showed above. The verses of Deuteronomy 4:7-8, while they are talking about the Jews, clearly say that if the people have the "law of the LORD", then they are a "great nation".
Since GOD Almighty promised that He was going to make the Arabs a "great nation", since they are from Ishmael, then this means that the Noble Quran is indeed GOD Almighty's Law to the Arabs, and to ALL Muslims as well that embraced Islam. The people of Ishmael are clearly the Arabs (through biological descent), and all Muslims through theological descent. No knowledgeable non-Muslim would dispute that.
Therefore, since "great nation" proves that the people have the Law of GOD Almighty, and since the Arabs were promised to become a "great nation" in the Old Testament, then this clearly and irrefutably makes the Noble Quran as the Law of the LORD in the Old Testament since it came from the Arabs, the "great nation".
GOD's Covenant was taken from the Jews and given to the Muslims in the Bible:
All of the Biblical verses from both the Old and New Testaments, and Jesus' own words in the Bible that clearly prove this are discussed in great details at:
Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from the Jews and give it to the Muslims.
Are Muslims the "Chosen People" of GOD? If not, then who are?
Isaac and Ishmael in Islam and Christianity.
Bible says that Jews from their essence were liars. From their "birth" they were liars the Old Testament declares them. This is another proof that the Bible is full of man-made corruption and fabrications, especially in the Jews' ancient history and stories. Jeremiah 8:8 is thoroughly covered here.
Moses, Jesus and several other Prophets in the Bible never liked the Jews. How can the Jews be considered GOD's "Chosen People" then?
Jesus told the Jews that GOD Almighty will take His Kingdom from the Jews and give it to the Muslims.
Who was the sacrificed son?
Here is the short answer:
Can anyone prove from bible that hazrat ismail (a.s.) was in Arab and Ibrahim (a.s.) was about to slaughter him?
Both the Bible and the Glorious Quran agree that:
1- Ishmael's covenant was put on hold (pause) until the Jewish covenant comes to pass, and the latter generations come.
2- Ishmael's name means the GOD finally heard the Prayer. Ishmael's name is a great proof that he was the sacrificed son. He was born after long decades of frustration and long waits. He was born after a long time of decades of desperation. Isaac would not have been that big of a deal relatively speaking, because Ishmael was already born, and the long horrid desperation was long gone. And Ishmael at the time was his only son, and for a long time too. Ishmael was 13 years older than Isaac. Peace be upon them all.
The challenge wasn't just for Abraham to give up his son for GOD Almighty. Any mere person can do this, even to pagan deities:
[006:137] Even so, in the eyes of most of the pagans, their "partners" made alluring the slaughter of their children, in order to lead them to their own destruction, and cause confusion in their religion. If God had willed, they would not have done so: But leave alone them and their inventions.
While it was a test for Abraham to give up his son for GOD Almighty, but I believe it was also more of testing Abraham to give up what he longed for, and was desperate for, for many decades. And it was also to honor Ishmael, the Prophet of Allah Almighty. Peace be upon Abraham and his sons.
It matters not:
Let me make it absolutely clear that Islam does not stand and fall on:
(a)- Whether Ishmael was
the sacrificed-to-be son or not.
None of this matters in Islam. We are only presenting what the Glorious Quran confirms here. If Isaac was the sacrificed son, then it wouldn't matter. We still say Peace be upon all of Allah Almighty's Prophets and Messengers. And Isaac was certainly one of them, and we love Isaac and revere him as much as Ishmael and all of Allah Almighty's Prophets. Peace be upon them all.
And again, ethnicity has nearly no value in Islam:
[049:013] O mankind! We created you from a single (pair) of a male and a female, and made you into nations and tribes, that ye may know each other (not that ye may despise each other). Verily the most honoured of you in the sight of God is (he who is) the most righteous of you. And God has full knowledge and is well acquainted (with all things).
This Noble Verse is not just to Muslims, but to all humans. For more details, please visit:
3- The Jews' accounts and the Bible's credibility are a joke! The Jews fabricated many lies. Ironically, their accounts even admit this.
I have thoroughly proven the
As to Ishmael being an Arab, again, it matters not. But if you care to know, Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac's father, was from Iraq. Most Iraqis are Arabs. Assyrians and others are a minority. And even Assyrians and Kurds and others speak Arabic, and their bloods are mixed with Arabs. Arabic had always been the dominant language in the Middle East and North and Central Africa for 20,000 years, if not even more. And it's the language of the Holy Quran, Allah Almighty's Perfect and Miraculous Book with 1000s of Numerical and Scientific Miracles , and also Prophecies . See literally the 1000s of STUNNING Miracles are listed here. Also visit:
But again, it matters not to Islam what ethnicity Abraham was.
The following is the detailed answer....
1- Who was the sacrificed son?
Ishmael's Covenant was made for the latter generations according to both Islam and the Bible. Let us look at Ishmael in great details:
2- The Bible’s Support for Ishmael:
Even in the altered Bible, there is strong evidence that support that Ishmael was the son to be sacrificed. Ishmael's name means "GOD Heard", which implies:
•Ishmael was 13 years older than Isaac, and •Noble Verse 37:102 supports that Ishmael was a teenage boy:
For ample more passages, visit:
3- Abraham had no child for almost 100 years. He was completely barren:
Abraham was very desperate for a son. Ishmael was the greatest gift from GOD Almighty to Abraham. This is why Abraham named him GOD finally Answered my Prayer. GOD Almighty put Abraham to the ultimate test by Commanding him to slaughter this precious son. Abraham obeyed GOD Almighty by attempting to slaughter his son, Ishmael. Ishmael too was true to his promise. He never resisted, nor disobeyed. He was willing to get slaughtered for the Will of Allah Almighty. GOD Almighty saved Ishmael at the last minute, and Commanded Abraham to slaughter a ram instead.
4- The corrupt Jewish books say it was Isaac:
But the name "ISHMAEL" really exposes their lies and gives it all away! The name clearly suggests that Abraham was MOST DESPERATE with Ishmael, and hence, Ishmael's test would‘ve been FAR GREATER than Isaac's. Isaac was the second son, and 13 years younger. The Jewish Law gives double the inheritance to the OLDEST SON when the father dies (Deuteronomy 21:17).
This is not a war between Ishmael and Isaac. In Islam, we honor all of the people of Israel's Prophets and Messengers of GOD Almighty. Peace be upon Abraham, Ishmael and Isaac. And peace be upon Hagar and Sara. Again, please visit:
Again, please visit: Ishmael was put on pause until the Israelites' Covenant passes. See slides 32-38. Both the Bible and Glorious Quran agree on this.
"El" in names as in Ishmael was common among the Jews. Is the GOD of Islam different? Allah Almighty allowed for His Holy Name to be shortened as "El" in Ishmael, and Lillah for Li-Allah in the Quran, as in Alhamdulillah in both Islam and Judaism.
The "im" in Hebrew is a majestic plural for GOD Almighty. The root Word is "Eloh". And the more original Jews such as Yemenites and others say Alohim or Alah-im. And when you yourself pronounce it, you do naturally pronounce it with a double "l": Allah. Jews do call Him: Allah-im. Aramaic-speaking people also call GOD Almighty Allah. See the following videos for Biblical references and proofs. Also, pre-Islamic Biblical archeological findings have GOD Almighty as "Allah". So the Original Holy Name for GOD Almighty is not Eloh. It is Allah! Eloh is a Hebrew dialect, which not all Hebrew speakers use anyway. Allah had always been the Original and Universal GOD Almighty even before birth of Judaism, and the existence Hebrew. And Hebrew is a developed language from Phoenician. See the following links:
6- What about “EL”?
•"El" was a shortened name for Allah (ALIF, LAMED, LAMED, HEY) In Hebrew. Watch above vidoes. •Allah is also spelled out with ALIF, LAMED, LAMED, HEY in Hebrew to be GOD. •Allah Almighty allowed for shortening of His Holy Name and Titles for the Jews. This is where you get Ishmael, Garbriel, Ezekiel (short for Allah). This is also where you get Hallelujah, Netanyahu (short for Yahuwah, or Yahweh) •Islam also has shortened Name for Allah Almighty. –Alhamdulillah is short for Alhamdu li Allah. Visit:
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