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Offline Mohamed Saif

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« on: August 04, 2016, 11:18:39 AM »
Here is the quote from Ibn Ishaq's "Sirat Rasulallah", translated as "The Life of Muhammad", by A. Guillaume, (page 496):

            "So the apostle called Burayra (Aisha's slave) to ask her, and Ali got up and gave her a violent beating saying, "Tell the apostle the truth,"....

            Muhammad did not stop Ali from beating the slave.

According to the Quran slaves should be treated nicely. So is the narration from Ibn Ishaqs account true? 

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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2016, 12:33:20 PM »
Buraira was the witness to attest and defend Aisha. Other narrations never mention about Ali beating a witness.

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http://sunnah.com/bukhari/52/1

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About the story of `Aisha and their narrations were similar attesting each other, when the liars said what they invented about `Aisha, and the Divine Inspiration was delayed, Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) sent for `Ali and Usama to consult them in divorcing his wife (i.e. `Aisha). Usama said, "Keep your wife, as we know nothing about her except good." Buraira said, "I cannot accuse her of any defect except that she is still a young girl who sleeps, neglecting her family's dough which the domestic goats come to eat (i.e. she was too simpleminded to deceive her husband)." Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) said, "Who can help me to take revenge over the man who has harmed me by defaming the reputation of my family? By Allah, I have not known about my family-anything except good, and they mentioned (i.e. accused) a man about whom I did not know anything except good."

http://sunnah.com/bukhari/52/25

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.....In the morning Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) called `Ali bin Abu Talib and Usama bin Zaid when he saw the Divine Inspiration delayed, to consul them about divorcing his wife (i.e. `Aisha). Usama bin Zaid said what he knew of the good reputation of his wives and added, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Keep you wife, for, by Allah, we know nothing about her but good.' `Ali bin Abu Talib said, 'O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Allah has no imposed restrictions on you, and there are many women other than she, yet you may ask the woman-servant who will tell you the truth.' On that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) called Buraira and said, 'O Burair. Did you ever see anything which roused your suspicions about her?' Buraira said, 'No, by Allah Who has sent you with the Truth, I have never seen in her anything faulty except that she is a girl of immature age, who sometimes sleeps and leaves the dough for the goats to eat.......

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The narration claiming Ali r.a beating a witness, is as if making Ali wanted the witness to say the opposite against Aisha.

Offline Saudi Salafi

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Re: Slavery
« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2016, 04:04:56 PM »
 This is most likely a false or misunderstood hadith due to the fact that it contradicts many other authentic hadiths:

Ibn 'Umar said, "I heard the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, say, 'The expiation for someone who slaps his slave or beats him more than he deserves is to set him free.'"

Grade: Sahih 

It was narrated that Abu Mas’ood al-Badri (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: I was beating a slave of mine with a whip, then I heard a voice behind me saying, “Remember, Abu Mas’ood.” I did not recognize the voice because I was so angry, but when he drew close to me I saw that it was the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), and he was saying, “Remember, Abu Mas’ood; remember, Abu Mas’ood.” I threw the whip aside and he said, “Remember, Abu Mas’ood, that Allaah has more power over you than you have over this slave.” I said, “I will never beat another slave again.” Narrated by Muslim, 1659.

Grade: Sahih

'A'isha reported that Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) never beat anyone with his hand, neither a woman nor a servant, but only, in the case when he had been fighting in the cause of Allah and he never took revenge for anything unless the things made inviolable by Allah were made violable; he then took revenge for Allah, the Exalted and Glorious.

Grade: Sahih


This hadith that you mentioned has been expained over HERE:

http://www.islamweb.net/emainpage/index.php?page=showfatwa&Option=FatwaId&Id=198513







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Re: Slavery
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2016, 12:46:31 PM »
aslaam alaikum actually this hadith is used by critics to prove that Aisha (ra) was immature for marriage can u please answer

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Re: Slavery
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2016, 02:26:21 PM »
aslaam alaikum actually this hadith is used by critics to prove that Aisha (ra) was immature for marriage can u please answer


The hadith isn't authentic. Read my comment above.

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Re: Slavery
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2016, 12:00:38 PM »
Aslaam walaikum brother but the hadith is of sahih bukhari and it contains the words
IMMATURE

 

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