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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

The Romans had to fake fake his crucifixion due to Passover issues: [1]

   
  
  

Adultery punishment in the Bible's Old and New Testaments:

The following Verses are from the NIV Bibles:

Exodus 20:14 "You shall not commit adultery."

Deuteronomy 22:22 "If a man is found sleeping with another man's wife, both the man who slept with her and the woman must die."

Leviticus 20:10 "If a man commits adultery with another man's wife--with the wife of his neighbor--both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death."

Proverbs 6:32 "But a man who commits adultery lacks judgment; whoever does so destroys himself."    He destroys himself by being put to death as shown above.

Leviticus 21:9 "And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire."  Why should only a daughter of a priest gets burnt to death if she profanes herself?  Why can't this law apply to all daughters?

Deuteronomy 25:11-12 "If two men are fighting and the wife of one of them comes to rescue her husband from his assailant, and she reaches out and seizes him by his private parts, you shall cut off her hand. Show her no pity."  This doesn't make any sense what so ever!  Why should the woman get her hands cut off for defending her husband?  It's not like she was cheating on him or anything like that!

 

We clearly see that adultery causes death from the Verses above.  Let us see what Jesus peace be upon him said about adultery:

The following Verses are from the NIV Bibles:

Matthew 19:9 "I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, and marries another woman commits adultery."  Wouldn't this cause the man to be put to death?

Mark 10:11 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery against her."    Again, wouldn't he then be put to death since he would have committed adultery?

Mark 10:12 "And if she divorces her husband and marries another man, she commits adultery."    Same question I ask about the women who are considered have committed adultery.   Wouldn't they be put to death also?

Luke 16:18 "Anyone who divorces his wife and marries another woman commits adultery, and the man who marries a divorced woman commits adultery." 

My question here is: Would an adulterer in the New Testament be put to death?

Keep in mind that when Jesus gave the above laws, he gave them during the time when he spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law:

Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws:  "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished.  (Matthew 23:1-3, Matthew 5:17-18)"  It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.'  (Matthew 23:1-3)"  We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

So according to Jesus peace be upon him, the adulterer in the New Testament must be put to death.

 

Question to Christians:

I noticed here by living in the US, that more than 50% of the population is divorced.   People divorce each others, and marry other people and still attend Churches and consider themselves Christians.

My question to those people is:  Aren't you violating the laws of the Bible?

 

What about John 8:1-11?  Does it really justify fornication, adultery and pornography as many Christians believe?

Let us look at John 8:1-11:

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But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives.
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At dawn he appeared again in the temple courts, where all the people gathered around him, and he sat down to teach them.
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The teachers of the law and the Pharisees brought in a woman caught in adultery. They made her stand before the group
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and said to Jesus, "Teacher, this woman was caught in the act of adultery.
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In the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. Now what do you say?"
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They were using this question as a trap, in order to have a basis for accusing him. But Jesus bent down and started to write on the ground with his finger.
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When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "If any one of you is without sin, let him be the first to throw a stone at her."
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Again he stooped down and wrote on the ground.
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At this, those who heard began to go away one at a time, the older ones first, until only Jesus was left, with the woman still standing there.
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Jesus straightened up and asked her, "Woman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?"
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"No one, sir," she said. "Then neither do I condemn you," Jesus declared. "Go now and leave your life of sin."

Many Christians use these verses to justify fornication and pornography.  We all know well that the Bible contains the most disgusting Graphic X-Rated Pornography.  And the use of John 8:1-11 does indeed raise a great concern to Morals and Ethics.

For one thing, it is the biggest mistake for the citizens of the Christian Whoredom to use John 8:1-11 as an excuse for the sexual sins they commit against GOD Almighty.   When Jesus peace be upon him refused to stone the woman, HE ACTUALLY REFUSED TO BE A HYPOCRITE!

Have he ordered the stoning of the woman, he would have been indeed a hypocrite, because people in charge of authority back then were not following anything in the Law properly.  He even called them "hypocrites" in several occasions; see Matthew 6:2, 5, 16, Matthew 15:7, Matthew 22:18, Matthew 23:13, 15, 23, 25, 27, 29, Matthew 24:51, Mark 7:6 and Luke 13:15 in the Bible (Luke 2:52: GOD forgave Jesus' sins and was "charitable" with him).  So why punish the weakest citizen and leave the cause of the corruption?!  That was the Message that Jesus peace be upon him gave to the people back then.  Notice that John 8:6 clearly says "They were using this question as a trap", which clearly means that the situation of John 8:1-11 was no more than a trap to make Jesus peace be upon him make a mistake.  That's why HE DIDN'T ALLOW THEM TO OUT SMART HIM AND FORCE HIM TO GIVE ANY JUDGMENT AGAINST THE WOMAN.  Jesus peace be upon him didn't in anyway nullify the Laws of GOD Almighty regarding punishment for adultery.

As I mentioned above, keep in mind that when Jesus gave the above mentioned laws regarding what he considered adultery, he gave them during the time when he spoke highly of the Old Testament's Law:

Jesus orders Christians to follow the Old Testament's laws:  "Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.  I tell you the truth, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke or a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law (the Old Testament) until everything is accomplished.  (Matthew 23:1-3, Matthew 5:17-18)"  It is quite clear from these verses from the New Testament that Jesus peace be upon him did honor the Old Testament and did say that every single "letter" of it has to be honored, followed and fulfilled.

"Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: 'The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat.  So you must obey them and do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.'  (Matthew 23:1-3)"  We clearly see in these verses that Jesus peace be upon him did not prohibit for the Old Testament to be followed, but only warned his followers to not follow it the way the current religious leaders of the Law (the Jewish Rabies) were following it.

I asked the question about if there is a problem with fornication or adultery to Christians to the members of the Christian "Answering Islam" team, and here is what one of their members responded:

Quennel Gale's response:

Que-Absolutely not.

He then presented John 8:1-11 to me.

If you have absolutely no problem with fornication or adultery because of your mis-interpretation of John 8:1-11, then tell me, how is your Bible then supposed to stop some one from sleeping with his own mother, sister or father's former wife? 

Since we are all humans (i.e. sinners), then using your dubious interpretation of John 8:1-11, then no one should be prevented!

Also, how is your Bible then supposed to prevent an uncle from sleeping with his own niece or nephew?

How is your Bible supposed to prevent men from marrying other men and women from marrying other women?  Oh, wait, doesn't this already exist among Christians in the State of California, USA?  The Christian men over there are allowed to marry other Christian men and the Christian women are allowed to marry other Christian women.   They even have their Gays and Lesbians Churches.

Important Note:  If what's right and what's wrong is determined by our society only and not by the Bible, then what is the use and the point of having the Bible then?

Is this a fair question?

Where do you draw the boundaries for sinning in the Pornographic Bible, to help the Righteous be guided and given the proper directions to remain straight and not be led astray in the Christian Whoredom?

Please visit Why do some Muslims call Americans and Westerners "Great Satan"?

If it's ok in Christianity to have sex before marriage, ok to live with someone without marriage (like boyfriend or girlfriend), ok to have anal sex with the same gender (see www.godlovesfags.com and see the thousands of Christians who support them through their guest book) or the other gender, ok for the brother to sleep with his sister, ok for people to expose most of their bodies (by wearing bikinis for instance), ok to spread wickedness among society, then:

WHAT'S NOT OK TO DO THEN????!!!! AND WHY DID GOD DROWN TO DEATH THE PEOPLE OF LOTT AND NOAH THEN? DIDN'T THEY DO THE SAME EXACT THING AS THE CHRISTIANS ARE DOING TODAY FROM SODOMY, AND ILLEGAL SEX WITHOUT MARRIAGE??!!

 

 

 

 

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Where was the promised Holy Spirit in the disciples' apostatizing of each other??

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Quran's STUNNING Divine Miracles: [1]
 

Allah Almighty also promised in several Divine Prophecies that He will show the Glorious Quran's Miracles to mankind.  For example:
  

1-  The root letters for "message" and all of its derivatives occur 513 times throughout the Glorious Quran.  Yet, the Prophets' and Messengers' actual names (Muhammad, Moses, Noah, Abraham, Lot etc....) were also all mentioned 513 times in the Glorious Quran.  See detailed listing here.


Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples! [1]. (zip file).

Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

Stunning Prophecies [2] [3]

 

2-  Allah Almighty said that Prophet Noah lived for 950 years.  Yet, all Praise and Glory are due to Allah Almighty Alone, the entire Noble Surah (chapter Noah) is exactly written in 950 Letters.  You can thoroughly see the accurate count in the scanned images.

3-  Allah Almighty in the Glorious Quran said that earth is:
  
       -  Spherical: "egg-shaped" [1].
       -  Is rotating around itself.
       -  Is moving in space in curvy orbits [2].
       -  Is traveling through the constantly expanding universe [3].
  

"When the sky disintegrates, and turns rose colored like paint (وردة كالدهان)." (The Noble Quran, 55:37) [2] [3]
  
As we also see from the picture, Noble Verse 55:37 is a Divine Promise (Allah promised to show mankind) that mankind will actually see this come to pass one day.  NASA and other space agencies, by Allah Almighty's Will, have certainly fulfilled this Prophecy, because a natural rose wouldn't form when a "Heaven" or a Solar System or even an entire galaxy and its
trillions of solar systems all blow up (explode).  It is rather the look of it, and this is exactly what NASA confirms.

 

Coincidence?  See 1,000s of examples [1].Quran's Stunning Numerical & Scientific Miracles.

  
Islam also thoroughly rejects as man-made lies the Trinity and Crucifixion [2].  Jesus was also thoroughly called slave of GOD [1] in both the OT and NT.


Quran:  All Bibles are mostly of corrupt [1] قول   (Quran 10:94 and 10s others discussed).  See also the 39+ members of trinity.  Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40.

  

John 5:30  "I cannot do anything on my own."  (i.e., Jesus could not perform a single Miracle without GOD sending it down to him first!).  I can not perform a single Miracle on my own!!  I am totally POWERLESS without Allah Almighty!
  

John 5:31  "if I (Jesus) bear witness of myself, then I would be a liar!" 

GOD didn't talk this way when He spoke to Moses.  GOD's testimony alone is always sufficient!  Jesus also bowed his face down to the ground, like we Muslims  (Isaiah 56:5: Muslim is the future believers' name, and sons and daughters of GOD titles will be "no more";    ; Jesus called every believer a Muslim in Luke 6:40)  Muslims do everyday, and prayed to GOD Almighty.